why does the 1911 get all the attention while the hi power just rots in its own little cave? like the BHP at least isn't completely obsolete
why does the 1911 get all the attention while the hi power just rots in its own little cave? like the BHP at least isn't completely obsolete
Two World Wars
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9mm pop-gun no stopping power .45 aarp will blow a man's head clean off do you feel lucky punk
>.45 AARP will blow a man's head clean off
Is that actually true or is it a meme
Because more cuts on the frame are for looks not production.
Hi-Power don't have the grip safety plate for a single action handgun carry. Newer 1911's can be 9mm.
Browning named it “high power” as an ironic joke. It’s in his memoirs
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Wrong again idiot it's a 50/50 split.
The 1911 is simply the best handgun.
Glock won the brand wars among the Wonder Nines. Even though the BHP was the first, Glock really blew the doors open on the whole concept.
Because it's weird and big, and frankly more antiquated because everything else besides the Beretta 92, P-38, Px4 and some .22's and novel experimental period semi auto pistols use its mechanism and do the rest of its stick better than it does.
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It's ridiculously small and way more size efficient than modern guns. It's some strange magic.
US G.I.s never used it.
A few were used in Vietnam
>why does the 1911 get all the attention
Because whatever else you can say about 9mm gays, at least they know when it's time to let go.
Everyone said "the reason I carry 9mm is because 10mm doesn't exist" but then they made 10mm and everyone was like 'oh'.
>hyper optimized for only 9mm useless for anything else
>no major military adoption because it was a waste of time
>is inferior in civilian completion use vs a 1911
>lack of third party support because of low adoption and production rates
>1911 in 10 mm exists
It's one of those things that sounds good on paper but it's really not that good irl, underwhelming. Where as 1911 sounds moronic on paper but blows your mind irl, overperforming.
>no major military adoption because it was a waste of time
>no major military adoption
Yeah, it was only used by pretty much every military that wasn't the US or combloc
>no major military adoption because it was a waste of time
>Yeah, it was only used by pretty much every military that wasn't the US or combloc
So what makes the first statement incorrect again?
According to Wikipedia it was made standard issue to SOG in Vietnam, so I guess my statement was wrong to begin with
Like he said, no major military adoption.
All of the modern 9mm pistols you're familiar with have the BHP as a precedent.
The 1911 is a thing of it's own, no longer a duty gun but still in use.
The BHP became the archetypal duty gun, and has modern successors.
In this light, should we not consider the BHP more successful?
>no longer a duty gun but still in use
yeah its no officially issued, but some SOF dudes carry one
https://www.military.com/kitup/2016/10/marsoc-chooses-glock-19s-45s-raiders.html
yes i've seen this articles dozens of times and it doesn't change anything that I've said. Glock 19 was mainly preferred for ease of cleaning and parts replacement, not because its the better weapon.
>The move, first reported by Jeff Schogol of Marine Corps Times, follows a Marine Corps decision in February that a MARSOC operators to carry Glock pistols, since many of the elite outfit's members prefer the popular Glock 19 9mm handgun over the custom .45 pistols the service bought them in 2012.
>The new .45s are nice, but many MARSOC troops prefer to carry Glock 19s instead.
>The decision is not that surprising since U.S. Army Special Operations Command has also chosen the Glock 19 for its elite units such as the 75th Ranger Regiment, the source said.
being more reliable, easier to maintain, having modern controls, having higher capacity, being lighter, being smaller, and using a preferred cartridge are all things that make it a better weapon you coping and seething dotard
Did your little peashooter win two world wars, sonny?
Didn't think so.
Yuroslimes don't have a gun like we do. If they did it'd be just as popular as the 1911, but in the States the Hi-power is unknown unless you're into historical military guns.
>Yuroslimes don't have a gun like we do. If they did it'd be just as popular as the 1911
glocks are more popular than 1911s
Okay and? The thread is about why the Hi-power isn't as popular as the 1911. It's not as popular because the US never used it, and in Europe, where it was used, most Europeans aren't interested in guns.
>glocks are more popular than 1911s
yeah we'll see about that in 2063. 100+ years later and than 1911 is still very popular with firearm enthusiasts
In 2063 we'll still be using both 1911s and the glock 19 gen 35 which will still look exactly the same.
No, Sig will replace Glock. The P720 will be marginally better than the gen 35, but tremendously more popular for it.
sig wont exist 35 glock gens from now. they will have killed themselves by being corrupt pieces of shit. at most sig will be walther. a dead brand with some other companys hand up their ass
meric**ts couldn't make a successful successor to their shitty 1911 so it garners all their attention.
The 1911 is still a very nice target shooting gun and fine for home defense if you get a double stack or invest in some 10 round extended mags. Its dominated the market for SAO pistols for so long that there aren't many competitors so its still relevant if you want a SAO pistol.
The High Power was the best gun in the world when it was introduced but at this point in history if you want a DA/SA you've got a lot of alternatives like the Beretta 92 or Sig P226.
So the M1911 is still relevant because it dominates its particular little SAO niche in the market while the High Power has been eclipsed by superior DA/SA pistols.
>at this point in history if you want a DA/SA you've got a lot of alternatives
You do know the HP is single action?
>completely obsolete
Fricking gay basedboy concept. I'm pretty sure some ooga booga tribal people will still use muskets and spears against drones, troony soldiers in mech suits and win.
>Reflexively troonyposts
Opinion disregarded.
Same reason the FAL/G3 is significantly less popular than the AR-10. Foreign designs popular outside of America quickly die the second those nations retire it from service as few nations have a civilian firearms market as big as America's. The 1911 survived this long because it has a massive civilian market to sell to that its been in for decades versus the BHP. Also you're a moron if you think that magazine safety capgun has any place in this world, especially against 45 ACP. Only moronic Sovlgays think it's good and deserves a place in the market
>a civilian firearms market as big as America's
And a market as exceptionally protectionist as America's
It was also issued by the US in limited numbers
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I was always told it was because there was a design flaw where if the gun got worn out and old the safety wouldn't always work and it was never drop safe. Forcing you to carry with an empty chamber if you aren't moronic.
Probably because more modern hi power derivatives are there to steal all the limelight. I'm not actually sure which is more popular right now in competitions, 1911s or CZ-75s.
Hollywood. The US has the world's biggest entertainment industry and the 1911 has been front and center for decades because of US-centric WW2 movies and other action movies that used 1911s because Hollywood armories were already full of them thanks to said WW2 movies.
>calls itself "hi power"
it's just tryhard
>like the BHP at least isn't completely obsolete
Exactly incorrect though, the BHP is actually more obsolete because it was ahead of it's time. It was the precursor to the current meta of the double stack wonder 9, everybody makes better versions of the exact same concept, reliable ok accuracy with a mediocre trigger duty guns. On the other hand the 1911 is the pinnacle of a different design philosophy which forgoes capacity for exceptional accuracy, ergonomics, and trigger feel. No other gun with decent market support beats it in this niche. The BHP might be a better choice for a defensive firearm in a vacuum but real life isn't a vacuum. In 2022 it still makes sense to buy a 1911 on its own merits if you value those merits, on the other hand it makes zero sense to buy a BHP as other designs do everything it does but better.
same reason m1a/m14 gets all the attention even though the fal and g3 are better in every way
1911 isn't obsolete because its mods have become widespread. It can double stack, host red dots and picatinny rails, and come in a larger variety of calibers. Works amazingly when paired with its excellent trigger and ergos.