So were Patriots delivered to counter these

So five are airworthy how many more exist

  1. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    hi satan

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      One is airworthy and Russia has resorted to faking new deliveries to pretend it has more

  2. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Patriots are there to help shoot down the missiles.

  3. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >akhtubinsk
    that's two regions away from Ukraine, might as well park it un siberia at this point

  4. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    since su-57 was said to have the same rcs as an F14 (reason india jumped ship), patriots are not needed against them.
    >inb4 vatnik seething
    im an engineer, i dont care about your ramblings, my world is numbers and units.

  5. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >British intelligence outing deployment and testing of Su-57s
    >the source they have for this is not their spy satellites, or the spy satellites of the US
    >it's fucking Digital Globe

    You're now aware that in the 1980s, when the F-117 was still in deep cover, the aircraft were stored in hangars or under erectable shelters with A-4s placed around to make it look like a normal military base. The USAF/NRO would tell the unit to move their F-117s inside whenever a Soviet satellite flew overhead. To the best of public knowledge, the USSR never saw through this facade, never tasked spy satellites to observe the base more closely, and never tasked spies with getting jobs at the base or getting imagery/data from it.

    And all the UK had to do was post a photo from

    >>>D I G I T A L G L O B E.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      how could you not fuck that semen demon.
      also nice story, thanks anon, 5star post.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >that fringe
        She cuts it herself. With scissors. Probably while having a mental break.

        t. sister used to have fringe

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Id fuck her, but I’d wear a bag on my head and give her a disconnected phone number. Fuck crazy, do not date crazy.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          It's a woman thing anon
          They only graduate to "getting a new hairdo" after the awkward teen years, but its ssdd
          >t. Has sister too

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Getting a fringe or different hair style is normal, doing it in the bathroom while you cry your eyes out after throwing your phone down a flight of stairs isn't. That girl has the fringe of the latter, not former.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              SSDD lol
              that's just what they do when they grow up; go to the hairdresser's instead of hacking it all off themselves

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You misspelled "BPD schizo". Don't stick your dick in crazy.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >MOD gives picture to digitalglobe
      >references own picture from digital globe
      >tards think the newspaper has their own spy satellite and have their minds blown

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        What the fuck are you talking about? People figured out Trump posted a classified image on twitter within minutes from basic deduction (wait, why does he have a printed out photo of a commercial satellite photo? why is it such high quality?), hours from open source investigation (why is it at an odd angle? why is it that any photo taken from that angle had to be taken by a high altitude spy plane over iranian territory or a satellite?) and about a day from open source investigation continuing and admissions from the government (there was only one imagery capable satellite in that position at that time and it was an NRO satellite, US government officials admitting it was leaked).

        It's literally easier to just take the damn photo from a commercial imagery company. It's enough resolution to identify the Su-57 and you don't need to risk releasing classified material.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >being so mindbroken you can't believe commercial photo satellites exist in the enemy's country
        Boris Yeltsin in a small grocery store moment.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I can fix her

  6. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    patriots wont come into use for months to come
    im confused as to why the taxpayer was forced to supply them, it is cost inefficient to shoot down russias powerful but cheaply missiles and drones, while it is likely incapable of targetting russias best fighter bombers and strategic bombers due to their proximity.. and what happens if patriot does somehow fire a missile into russian airspace? the escalation would cause a disturbing scare in the collective west

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Thank you fellow comrade of the western oblasts, I am now demoralised.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        very funny..

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      mui obligado. john from kentucky oblast here.
      you happen to know a source where i can find more information the west is trying to burry?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        da agreed comrade

        not an argument
        I accept your defeat

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          i accept your godwill gesture.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      da agreed comrade

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >russias powerful

      stopped reading right there, Russia is the antithesis of "powerful"

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        with kalibr 500kg he or thermonuclear warhead is frequently operated highly precision cruise missile half the cost of american equivalents.. the destructive power exceeding the subsonic tomahawk, while travling supersonicaly, a missile that has eclipsed western conventional capabilities while maintaining industrial scale.....yes, this is powerful
        and yes, patriot is an impressive system, but look at the cost also..with the full idea of capitalism, we see that america resorts to throwing dollars, but in real war conditions, this becomes unsustainable

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          America isn't losing a war to Mexico Ivan. Russia is a failed state.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            so, you have no argument again, just insults. maybe put down your media site, and look at the fact sheets

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >so, you have no argument again, just insults. maybe put down your media site, and look at the fact sheets

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              you dumb fucking subhuman mongol apes have no fucking clue what kind of resources the US has, you simply cannot comprehend it. It would take fucking TRILLIONS for the US to even wince.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >no fucking clue what kind of resources the US has
                Vatniks may not like it, but the US is 6 million years ahead in military tech. The US military & government holds the keys to the meaning of life & death, has both friendly & evil alien helpers (ET/FNORD), psychic "remote viewing" spie's, time travel tech, fleets of reverse-engineered antigravity alien tech "TR-3B Black Triangle" flying ship's powered by element 115, communication with ghosts the afterlife & the unborn, triple-barreled M551A666 PsychoSheridan tank's, 75th Rangers exoskeleton-hip-fired gyro-stabilised 120mm infantry mortar's with pinpoint accuracy during 25mph sprint, access to other "parallel" universe's, NSA/DARPA GGGQEP quantum ∞(±6^∀)Petahertz microprocessors to eavesdrop on every single electronic & non-electronic communication in the world even sign language underneath 1km of EMF Kevlar, "Rods from God" (just 1 orbital tungsten telephone pole = two Czar Bombas), the 300,000-strong "Fighting Molemen" U.S. SUBTERRANEAN FORCE, FT LEE VA (the secret "7th branch" existing since 1899), quantum IFVs, "phase-shifting" Armored Recovery Vehicles, new "Stealth" tech that makes jet's invisible to Radar. Shoulder-fired ASAT missiles. Stealth field kitchens. This is publicized in Stargate SG1, scientific research publication Popular Science, only a fraction of the more spooky & shadowy stuff not listed above is merely hinted at in Marvel Cinematic Universe™, history documentary Red Alert 2, time travel documentary Life is Strange (David Madsen was a rogue DIA test subject), but the pardoned parcel is the US of A is at least 6 million years ahead in military tech even without the help of alien's. It is 6 million years ahead though the exact number fluctuates due to the activities of the US Military Time Travel Program underneath Barksdale, A.F.B. , L. A. , this 6 million years ahead is a universally agreed-upon average by the world & intergalactic/ET scientific communities.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          It's true, American paper money is more powerful than Russian "weapons"

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >so, you have no argument again, just insults. maybe put down your media site, and look at the fact sheets

            https://i.imgur.com/63UnJf7.png

            When is your dumb ass gonna get mobilized? Hurry up and go die for Vladlet the Pants-shitter.

            Getting the vibes of those anti-Russian shill posters on 4chan where you hover over their ID and it says 60+ posts by this IP. Really pathetic dude

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Go back to 4chan.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          There are like 50 kalibrs left at this point. Russia has been flinging them at fucking playgrounds for so long that though they produce them their use outstrips their production

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >if russia fires a missile that's fine who cares. big deal
      >if ukraine fires a missile THAT IS WORLD WAR THREE TOTAL NUCLEAR ARMAGEDDON WE'RE ALLL GONNA FUCKING DIE AHHHHH

  7. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Lrn2english satan

  8. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Is it in range for the M-141?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Any source for the "Ukraine fires modified M-141 as cruise missiles" other than retarded journalists? The domestic long-ranged drones they showed off were all prop-powered jury-rigged designs.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The original source for that claim was the russian MoD, so take that as you will.
        Ukraine has never disclosed the nature of the weapon as far as I know, other than the fact that it's a suicide drone with a range of 1000km (which to be fair, does match the range of the Tu-141). Furthermore, I find it suHispanicious that no photos of identifiable fragments have been posted anywhere as proof and quite frankly I think it's absurd that a massive subsonic recon drone from the '70s with no ability to safely navigate at low altitude could penetrate the IADS and strike a strategic target deep within the heart of russia, even despite its obvious deficiencies.
        It's weird that western media would report the MoD's claims uncritically. It's not unfeasible, but there isn't a shred of evidence, near as I can tell.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >It's weird that western media would report the MoD's claims uncritically
          Very few actual criticism nowadays from the MSM, only from (ironically) OSINT twitfeeds
          The media game is a race to get clicks and get the word out, any word, covered by weasel words like ALLEGEDLY and REPORTEDLY and ACCORDING TO

  9. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    While Patriots can engage any air breathing threat, no they won't be used for that. They are to make sure no advanced Russian TBM targets the political leadership in Kiev.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      it is possible to state, this patriot is just protection for international top brass, that they make ukraine pay for with lives
      I hadnt thought in that way yet, but I believe you are correct.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        When is your dumb ass gonna get mobilized? Hurry up and go die for Vladlet the Pants-shitter.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          maybe for the collective west, they have X and Y confused, lol...here this is not the case.
          learn about weapons, and dont participate in information-operations, and maybe you will learn something

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Nobody sees Russia as a threat anymore. It has been totally defanged as a military power and it's influence will collapse.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              No one has anything to "learn" from Ruscrement. You are not a world power and no one takes you seriously anymore.

              I understood you are part of information-operation. I am not participating, thank you, lol. I just talk about weapons, just like this board demands. This is about Patriot, who has to counter low cost weapon like Kalibr, with far more expensive interceptions.. That is the reasonable argument, not your unrelated tangent. I am questioning why not CRAM? the answer is maybe in this other response, the patriot was made to defend international visitors, and the top brass, of course at the cost of ukraine personel and lives

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You say the patriot must counter the kalibr, and this is not worthwhile due to the kalibr being cheaper
                What you haven't taken into account, is that as a proportional of military budget and industrial capacity, the kalibr costs Russia far more than the patriot, as the west is obscenely wealthier than Russia.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >West has a military budget and production capacity that is essentially infinite
                >Somehow it is not worth shooting down a crap missile that has a 30% chance of doing considerable damage to a school, hospital or power station, costing vastly more than the interceptor
                Anon. We are so rich we bring Burger Kings to Afghanistan. Do you think we care about missiles?

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            No one has anything to "learn" from Ruscrement. You are not a world power and no one takes you seriously anymore.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >No one has anything to "learn" from Ruscrement.
              Wrong, they provide many valuable lessons in what not to do.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          That pic always make me chuckle

  10. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Obviously not. Those planes are a non factor in this conflict. The question is rather how many AAMs Ukraine has left in stock. We are seeing them starting to phase out soviet legacy equipment in favor of western systems. Which substantially prolongs their ability to engage in the kind of attritional warfare this conflict has evolved into. This way Ukraine is able to turn their initial material and industrial capacity disadvantage into an advantage, as they now can draw on stocks and production capabilities from multiple countries. The more they shift to western equipment the better their position becomes. The real bottleneck is not even material, it’s training. But here they also have an advantage now as they can draw on NATOs trainer pool using NATOs training facilities.

    tldr: Ukraine can now train more soldiers in a given timeframe than Russia and has bigger stocks and production to draw from.

  11. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Russia

  12. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Using patriots against Air Breathing Targets makes little sense since Ukraine already has s300s and BUKs that can do that. They’ll save the Patriots for ballistic missiles intercepts.

    The problem is that even with two batteries, they can’t point the radar to the North, East and South simultaneously. That’s how the Houthis(Iran) caught Saudi Arabia off guard early on. The Saudis had their radar systems pointed towards Iraq/Iran, but the missiles came from Yemen.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Two batteries means they will have sufficient FAAD wire frame coverage for any BMOA that Russian Forces might have that threatens Kiev. Doubtless, Intel suggested that this would have been sufficient for the job or they wouldn't have bothered in the first place.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        To my knowledge, Russia hasn’t used Crimea to launch TBMs yet, but it would be an easy way to exploit a weakness in the patriot systems…

        If the TBM launchers don’t get spotted by satellite.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >thunder run a P941 SSBN through the Bosphoros
          >near-untraceable submersible launch platform in Black Sea
          >launch TBMs from Odessa direction
          >reload at sea via barges near Novorossiysk or Sochi to reduce chances of being hit in port

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Unfortunately the only remaining 941 was stripped of its missiles about 20 years ago and was due to be scrapped at the end of 2022. The Bosporus is also only 360 ft at its deepest point and 43ft at it shallowest (a Typhoon is 39 ft tall and would be easily visible when underwater from that depth). As much as I'd love to see it get a nice send-off, it's not going to happen.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >due to be scrapped at the end of 2022
              fucking Russia
              Same scenario, but with a P667BDR/M?

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              what are the odds that instead of anechoic coating the Russians just covered the entire sub with ERA blocks?

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >Unfortunately
              Always hated the Pr.941s t.b.h.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The question is how many S300 and Buk are left, how long they are projected to last and what can be done to extend the timeframe by gradually replacing them with western systems you would need to train operators for which takes time.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        No idea about S300 but Ukraine was able to mount Sea Sparrows on their BUKs.
        There are fucktons of those so shouldn’t be an issue of supply.
        Hawks are also coming online with a new improved radar kit so they add to the defense network and operating space of BUK.

  13. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They gave them pac-2 missile and old patriot launches, not the newer pac-3 missiles. The US basically just gave ukraine the scraps they had sitting in the back of their closet from the 90s that dont work very well.
    T. I work on patriot

  14. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Patriots are just a bait.
    Ukraine will make a dozen decoys of those and vatniks will waste time/drones/missiles trying to destroy them. The real system will be used when some high value target can be hit

  15. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Ah, yes.
    The five prototype aircraft. Expensive, irreplaceable and hard to maintain.
    Funny to see how Russia has become everything they've always claimed about the West.

  16. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    No one knows. Just like they don't know how many missiles or tanks they got. Its a great testing environment. So far non got shot down or just failed like the f35 in peacetime.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >or just failed like the f35 in peacetime.
      OH NONONONONONONO
      Look at this dude

      https://www.reuters.com/article/russia-airplane-crash-idUKL8N28Y1T2

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Reuters... Not even a image. At this point just write your own fan fiction

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Russian air force confirmed it, you tiresome brown loser.

  17. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They aren't nearly stupid enough to fly thejr most modern jets into known SAM rings at this stage in the war. They would likely stay on their side of the border and throw long-range missiles without putting themselves in danger

  18. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >So five are airworthy
    If you spent any time around aircraft maintenance, you'd know that only 1 or 2 of those 5 are actually airworthy at any given time.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      OP here, you need to rethink both your conclusions.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        “No”

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