Latest UK weapons package for Ukraine just dropped

Latest UK weapons package for Ukraine just dropped

  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    keep your retweets in tweeter

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Bongland doesn't give a fuck anymore lol

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Just two more weeks?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        What?

        https://i.imgur.com/ZdgyylT.jpg

        >Ukrops lose 600 tanks
        >Send them 12 as a replacement

        Haha., OH NONONONO

        >Russia loses 1600 tanks
        >Gets hiv
        Ohnononono

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Nearly 10% of Ireland doesn’t have access to toilets?
        Lucky Charms bros…is that accurate??

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Lmao what the fuck Ireland

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Trying to be more like daddy Russia.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            My people just understand NATOs threat to world piece retard.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >World Piece
              >Piece
              This is why noone is taking you retards seriously.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              israel isn’t even in NATO

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            From polling Ireland is supposed to have some of the world's highest support for Ukraine, which seems counter to their angsty anti-Western anti-colonial anti-NATO default position. I don't imagine they have anything to help Ukraine woth anyway so doesn't actually matter.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              That's the curse of people who think of politics in terms of honor and empathy, rather than realpolitik.
              Sure, it would make sense for them to support anyone who is against the British, but they probably view Russians trying to claim Ukrainians are just "Russians a bit to south-west" as a similar thing to British ruling over Ireland.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                paddies are little more incapable of independent thought than your average zigger

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                When you think about it Russia is doing to Ukraine what Britain did to Ireland for stationing French troops on their soil.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                britain was successful

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            The extreme Nationalist dissidents are Pro-Russia but honestly we're more Pro-Ukraine than probably any Non-NATO country - we took in a ridiculous amount of refugees, I even dated one and my friends took in a family into their house. In Belfast you may see slightly more Pro-Ukraine/NATO stuff in British areas but you'll only see Pro-Russia stuff in only the worst 'Up the Ra' shitholes and often plenty of times with Pro-Ukraine stuff beside it. It's funny because the more traditionally right wing places support Ukraine and the more leftist ones support Russia, which frazzles the 4chan and leddit narratives.

            There's a lot of Israel hate though, which is ironic considering the IRA helped create Israel (after supporting Hitler like a year before kek).

            t. Potatomoron

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >the IRA helped create Israel (after supporting Hitler like a year before kek).

              Based schizo potatos

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Nothing schizo about it, they just hate the bongs. Nazis fucked with the bongs, so they were okay. Zionists fucked with the bongs, so they were also okay.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >we're more Pro-Ukraine than probably any Non-NATO country

              I'm Georgian and would take you up on that bet any time of fucking day.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                How is the flood of Russian draft dodgers being taken?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Schizoprenically.
                The government flails and squirms between doing nothing about it and randomly banning the return of ethnic Russian that have lived and worked in Georgia for 5+ years and can't risk returning to Russia after what they've publicly said about Putin.
                Still, we're better than Austria in every possible way.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                yo sorry about Tochinoshin btw, hope he doesn't get stuck in juryo

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Why doesn't eastern Europe adore Russians and their civilized, prosperous, enlightened rule?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Truly a mystery for the ages

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              This. No idea why, but leftists in my area support Russia more than Ukraine.

              “Ukrainians are Nazis!”

              With a garden gnome president?

              “Russia was threatened by NATO!”

              Ukraine isn’t in NATO; Ukrainian troops aren’t in Russia.

              “Ukrainians are racists!”

              And Russia killing a million people is better?

              Clueless leftists. It’s easy to understand why the conservatives (not the far right) are winning: they know who America’s opponents actually are.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Why is the UK a dishonourable mention on that when nearly every stat there is pretty good.
        Like, just because some people use outhouses isn't the government's problem.
        They literally have have a fund to get free amenities in every household if they need them, but some people are just fine shitting in ye olde outhouses I guess.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I think prisons and things like hostels are are counted in that too anon.
          UK tends to have more accurate stats that other nations, sometimes against its own benefit.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Satanic ruled UK SUBJECTS always need a dishonorable mention. Imagine being ruled by a satanic royale family in 2023 when the word of Jesus is so well known. Barely human nation of slaves.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >27%
        No wonder India shills for Russia so much, fucking kindred spirits

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I refuse to believe that there is not a single outhouse in the entire of Japan.
        Give me proofs dammit!

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Shitting outside is not that hard. I find it liberating.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The truly humiliating statistic presented in this graphic. The abject failure of the American healthcare system is a badge of shame that every American should have to look at every single day.

        Fuck republicans. Fuck every God damned last one of those treasonous assholes.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Fuck republicans. Fuck every God damned last one of those treasonous assholes.
          Finally, a fucking patriot on this bitch-ass, bootlicking board. Too many fucking nazi-larpers and russian simps.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            cringe

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      What are they going to do, drown us in a nuclear tsunami? LOL

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Are you dense? How was that having ago at Britain. Look what tanks in the picture you fucking tourist.
        t.bong

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You're quite right, which is we're sending Challys over. We have removed but one finger from our gloves, pray we do not remove another.

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >12 tanks

    Whoa, this will make a huge difference in the battle to hold Piss-key for 2 more weeks!

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Idiot

      how many tonks in a squadron?

      14+engineering challengers

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Ukrops lose 600 tanks
        >Send them 12 as a replacement

        Haha., OH NONONONO

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Russia begging Iran for drones and missiles

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            No, Anon, it's much worse than that, it's:

            >Russia gives Iran 24 SU-35 jet fighters (Out of 110 that were in service at the start of the war) for a thousand moped bombs that have ceased being able to breach Ukie air defence when used in numbers less than a hundred and they only receive a max of 300 of them a month.

            https://eurasiantimes.com/leaving-the-west-baffled-iran-confirms-purchasing-24-russian/

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Jeez. 24 nearly fifty gen fighters?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            No, Anon, it's much worse than that, it's:

            >Russia gives Iran 24 SU-35 jet fighters (Out of 110 that were in service at the start of the war) for a thousand moped bombs that have ceased being able to breach Ukie air defence when used in numbers less than a hundred and they only receive a max of 300 of them a month.

            https://eurasiantimes.com/leaving-the-west-baffled-iran-confirms-purchasing-24-russian/

            You both forgot
            >steals monkey model tanks from “allies”

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              If they give those Indian tanks to Iran for more shitty drones, that would just be the perfect ending for that entire debacle.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Kek they have more tanks than they did at the beginning thanks to Russian generosity

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Why are they begging everyone for more?
            Hmmmm....it's a mystery.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              more = better.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Better capability. Soviet shitboxes are soviet shitboxes, whether they're russian or ukrainian.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >Why are they begging everyone for more?
              The more they have the fewer ukies will die and more russians will die in their stead. Isnt it obvious?
              Why win harder if you can win easier?

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Maybe because the Ukrainians want to maximise their chance of victory. You dont stop asking for assistance just because the balance of power is in your favour dipshit.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              They're calling up more men than their initial army size. They need more armor to equip said men. And as others have pointed out more is better.
              This isn't some 200iq shit anon, you should be able to figure it out.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Why were the Russians begging America for more tanks in 1945?

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Need more to press all the dead vatniks bodies deeper into the earth.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I can’t wait for you to join the army and become a general who decides once he has the absolute minimum amount of equipment and preparation to win to immediately launch into a full scale assault even if he has the opportunity to get more equipment and preparation because only pussies need to do cowardly western things like “maximize chance of victory”

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            that's totally true, i read it on redit

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              reddit said ukrops took herson, surely it isn't true...?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          https://i.imgur.com/xJaMKtC.jpg

          >12 tanks

          Whoa, this will make a huge difference in the battle to hold Piss-key for 2 more weeks!

          why do you redditspacing trannies always "argue" the same way? are you trying to convince us, or yourself?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            They will join the 41% soon

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            why can't you refute what they're saying tho

            I noticed that you didn't even try, you just deflected and decided to throw a temper tantrum. care to explain?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Ukrops lose 600 tanks
          >capture over 600 intact in return
          >and get Challenger 2s, which are individually worth ~a dozen T-90M each

          Sounds like a good time for the Ukrainians.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >a dozen T-90M each
            More like a hundred. In fact I'll say it now, if a single Challenger 2 is knocked out by a Russian piece of shit tank WITH PROOFS, I'll eat my fucking hat.
            Screenshot this.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Go get something to drink with it.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Don't be retarded. Of course the Challenger 2 will be knocked out. It isn't invincible and it is being used by crews who aren't used to it.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          lose 600 tanks

          Oh no!

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            holy shit whoever made that is a top level dunning Kruger specimen

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              What’s wrong with it exactly? In terms of numbers it seems right, not that numbers = ability

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >The 1st (UK) Armoured Division was the easternmost unit in VII Corp's sector, its Challenger tanks forming the spearhead of the advance. The division advanced nearly 350 km within 97 hours, destroying the Iraqi 46th Mechanised Brigade, 52nd Armoured Brigade and elements of at least three infantry divisions belonging to the Iraqi 7th corps in a series of battles and engagements. They captured or destroyed about 300[11] Iraqi tanks and a very large number of armoured personnel carriers, trucks, reconnaissance vehicles, etc.[12]
      >In total, British Challengers destroyed roughly 300 Iraqi tanks without suffering a single loss in combat.[11]
      (They lost one to blue on blue. T-72s must fear the mighty bong wagon.)

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You vatniks said the same thing about HIMARS before supply depots started exploding all over the place.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The point is to mog the Abrams wunderwaffe (historically teamkilled by training ammo) by having the balls to deploy it against something roughly approximating a peer. The fact that America is unwilling to donate Abrams to "risk" fighting turret tossing T90 shitboxes really does make you think about its alleged status as king of tanks.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        1. Abraps have been lost by partner nations before and it hasn't ended the world, Iraqi Abraps died regularly
        2. Abraps is too fat for Ukraine's infrastructure

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Not the same variant. Abrams by the US are different to exports. Challenger 2's are the same afaik. Oman is the only other nation with Challenger 2's afaik.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        America is much wise to de-escalate the conflict. UK instead is showing it's imperialist teeth that plundered most of the world and whole world is watching. Time will come for them.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >UK instead is showing it's imperialist teeth
          turd world leftist spotted. America just sent bradleys and a bunch of other stuff, cope harder retard

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >UK instead is showing it's imperialist teeth

          I wish. We need another dust up. Bongs brought out the best in us.

          t. Burger

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Daily reminder that Ukie BTFO of Vatniks in the Krakhiv offensive with just 17 T-72 tanks. Imagine 14 challangers and 50 Bradley’s racing toward you. Ayyy fucking lmao the Vatniks are done for.

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    But /chug/ and /leftypol/ told me the war is over. russia won.

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Challies and 100,000 arty shells

    RUSbros.....

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      5 days of shelling

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    how many tonks in a squadron?

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    As an extremely moderate balt I have to say the last year has been the most exhilarating and the brits are leading the way again.
    I believe in just somewhere north of 100 million reaped russian souls would satiate at least my thirst at the very least.

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Incoming vatniks reeeeing ore written "muh consequences" "muh useless nato hardware" "muh unavoidable Russian victory" in 3...2...1....

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I don’t care, take this to 4chan

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Russian tanks will reach Kyiv within 18 hours

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        18 hours? 3 days to Kyev? 10 months to Kyev? 3 day operation Which one is it?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          nafo trannies can't get their lies in order

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      i don't care that you don't care, take yourself to pol you fucking cunt.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Take it to 4chan

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Take yourself to 4chan, tourist.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This is weapons though. Like, it even lists them in the OP. The discussion has been about weapons as well.

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >I don’t care, take this to 4chan

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Wrong

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >tigers
      >capeshit
      classic

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I assume Leopard 2 is coming from a broad coalition at the next military aid summit. Poland is confirmed, Finland I think too, but probably Germany will be guilted into providing at least parts and support, and maybe some tanks and training also from Spain, Canada, Denmark, Netherlands. They're going to want to do this together to diffuse responsibility.

    Could be, if that happens (lots of Leopards) the Challenger transfer is quietly killed before any are delivered.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      arent the german people pissed off at germany dragging their feet with this shit? youd think theyd shuffle some people out of office by now

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        ms. generale just got ousted

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Only 25% of Germans are in favor of increasing weapon shipments

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          thats fucked

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          What do the other 75 percent think will happen if Russia is allowed to win?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            What do you think will happen to the average German if Russia wins

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Cold War 2.0 will set in, Germany will actually have to follow through with serious rearmament, and NATO will be on a hair trigger with emboldened Russia. Also China will get bolder, which will likely lead to total economic disengagement whether Germany wants it or not, and NATO expanding into the Pacific whether Germany likes it or not.

              Plus Germany will not get cheap Russian gas again unless theres regime change in Russia, which means the deindustrialization of Germany.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Also effective end of EU as anything other than a free trade agreement (maybe even that too), as Eastern Europe and the Nords fall totally under American (and lesser extent British) influence and disengage as much as possible from quisling Germany and France. Any notion of collective EU security DOA as core EU will show itself not to take security seriously.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >muh deindustrialisation

                Gas prices are already back to pre-war levels without any russian shipment LMAO.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Gas prices are already back to pre-war levels without any russian shipment LMAO.

                Because of massive demand destruction.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >because of [head canon]
                Kay

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Cheap gas and heckin' wholesome DDR comes back.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            It's a ~25/50/25 split between increasing the rate of weapons shipments, keeping it roughly at current levels or decreasing them. Note that this was AFTER the Marders. Aka ~75% are for continued supply of AFVs to Ukraine.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Could be even better than it looks with that info, as lots of people think Marders are already tanks.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            The last anti-Soviet Germans died in 1945.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Their defence minister just resigned, so that's doubtful.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Those two things are barely related

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          These numbers are coming from opinion questionaires on private news sites tho. Not representative. I would assume tho that most Germs aren't very well informed on this issue and are indeed against weapons shipments.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        they elected merkel and the current bald schitzelnozzle tard for 20 years so

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    All stolen, embezzled and privately disappeared and hidden and black marketed.
    Thanks. Send more.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Cool, can I get a link to the website?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        no

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Would be so easy for the Ukranian state apparatus to find these pilferers if this were real. Just set up a buy and arrest them. Hance I really doubt this is real (as in, really reselling of Western donated equipment)

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Would be so easy for the Ukranian state apparatus to find these pilferers if this were real
        Ukrainian state apparatus are the pilferers retard. Ukrainian army didnt even have uniforms in 2014 because everything that could be sold had been sold. They were even selling their tanks to the rebels in DNR and LNR for a quick buck

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Proofs?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          2014 ukraine and 2022/3 ukraine are markedly different countries as far as corruption is concerned.

          inb4 more unsubstantiated accusations

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Ruszisters, we are losing against an army of rag tag hobos without uniforms??

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      reminds me of those HIMARS being sold

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      A smuggled Challenger 2 tanks just flew over my house!

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      the cope and cognitive disonance from this by nafo trannies in unreal

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Their discord's haven't come up with a goods response to this truth yet, All deflect and lies and claim fake is all they have.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        post link (you wont)

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Can you explain why these generators are available for sale in Poland, Germany and Slovakia?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >they were stolen!
      >uses stock photos
      >no link to twitter
      >no link to site it's on
      very legit comrade

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        nah, they could just be imported by someone and re-sold at twice the price.
        Buying 3kWh generator in poland + international shipping costs the same as 1kWh sold locally. Basically, when generator crosses the border, it becomes at least twice more expensive. Now do the math how many you can make by just moving at least 4 of these each week.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      just like all the nlaws that were totally not just old picture from syria?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Don't be shy, post the link.

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Where the Chally 1's at? I thought they were being retired by Jordan. A couple hundred of those would be useful, even if they break down in place lmao

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      sitting in the desert and considered mothballed/reserved whatever that means by arab standards

  14. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    who cares what some twitter dork says

  15. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >My people just understand NATOs threat to world piece retard.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Wait what the fuck is wrong with his arms?

  16. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Kek, the UK is bankrupt, people are starving and freezing, millions of invaders are pouring into the country, some third worldwide has taken power and they are still giving it their all. Are they the greatest shabboz goyim after all?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Bankrupt
      6th biggest gdp in the world
      2nd in Europe
      3rd biggest Defence budget in the world
      >Freezing
      It's been one of the warmest winters in Europe have you left your room this year?
      >Millions of invaders
      Yeah
      >Third worldwide
      Esl where are you from, turdie country? Sorry your poor I guess.

      Meanwhile picrel...
      >Bongbus rolling up to Ukraine

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I can imagine that just rolling up to the frontlines and having a dozen men in sharp suits leaving and giving the Russians a damn good tongue-lashing before driving off again, leaving them terrified and slightly aroused from the experience.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >people are starving and freezing
      Why go overboard like this? If you tried to make your post sound a bit more legitimate you could farm a bunch of (you)s.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      fuck off schizo, it was literally 15c last week here

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      4chan is like an NPC factory

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I used to frequent 4chan for ages. Can’t stand it anymore. Just a daisy chain.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I can say this to a bong as an american. But for a thirdie to say it is pure cringe. Don't even pretend you're as good as the worst the anglosphere has to offer

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        How do you know he isn't also an American?

  17. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why send aid if in 2 weeks putin will dance in kiev maidan square?
    Checkmate westies

  18. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Shame we're going to see some Chally's rekt by Russia. I assume they won't have their latest upgrade packages on. That's fine. UK is taking the blow to their tanks to mog the rest of the world (especially Germany, France and USA... but USA can shrug as they actually help). I just hope whomsteve gets the Chally's records some kills before they're rekt.

  19. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Imagine being that poor asshole who'll waste months of his life training to use a challenger and then it breaks down for one reason or another and there are only 12 so you're just kinda stuck sitting around until a replacement arrives.
    I mean, it's not like Ukraine would waste their few challenger-ready troops on other shit.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I am sure there will be parts and 'contractors' to repair them.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >you're just kinda stuck sitting around until a replacement arrives
      Trained crew go into rotation until there are too many tanks for that luxury. Might sit around for three days before you relieve another crew. All sorts of shit to keep you busy for three days of down time, including the very legit necessity of taking a day or three of leave to be fresh when you are rotated back.

  20. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    challies swatted at t72s in iraq like they didn't exist so it's more a matter of how good their atgms are tbh t. expert

  21. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Can Challanger 2s survive a direct or near hit from artillery? Gotta be better than a T-72 at least.

  22. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    dunno why they're giving Challenger 2's when they're making Challenger 3 which is exactly the same tank with a different gun (bye bye HESH). I wish the Bongs would just design and build a new tank. I don't understand this shit. Meanwhile France and Germany are making a joint tank together that is an actual proper new tank with proper advancements. Not just a 'new' gun.

    Wish I was in charge of Bong shit, would try and form an Anglosphere development venture where the five nations combine their knowledge and skills into making new shit.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Wish I was in charge of Bong shit, would try and form an Anglosphere development venture where the five nations combine their knowledge and skills into making new shit.
      congratulations you've now got an Abraps but with a Canadian-built diesel engine and Marconi thermals

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >dunno why they're giving Challenger 2's when they're making Challenger 3

      it is quite difficult to give things that do not exist.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        No my point was they're giving Challenger 2's to Ukraine who will most likely lose one to Russia and Russia then gets hold of the wreck and researches it and the Challenger 3 is the same thing with a different gun. Therefore the Challenger 3 which is meant to be until like 2070 or some shit for the UK is going to be easily dealt with in that regard.
        >b-b-but Russia won't be a threat by then a-a-and
        Then they'll sell it to some other nation. They've already done that with NLAWs and shit.

        >Wish I was in charge of Bong shit, would try and form an Anglosphere development venture where the five nations combine their knowledge and skills into making new shit.
        congratulations you've now got an Abraps but with a Canadian-built diesel engine and Marconi thermals

        We don't know what it'd look like, but it is certainly going to be better than Challenger 2 with a '''new''' gun.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Anon, it's top armour is weak, if they wanted to kill it in future they can

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          moron, Russia has had the M1A1 Abrams since the mid 90s. A NATO general literally reports being taken to see it in a Russian tank museum. They can't do shit about it because they don't have the technological base to A. reverse engineer it and B. mass produce it.
          Russia can't even build modern fucking tractors.
          Russia can't even build ball bearings for fucks sakes.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            M1A2 SEPv4 is barely similar to the M1A1, ignoring all the other variants. For example the original M1 and M1IP had a rifled cannon. As I said in my original post, they will happily sell or trade the information to other nations.

            fuckin indonesia has nlaw.

            And? Russia has literally traded NLAWs and other western tech to Iran in exchange for support.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >M1A2 SEPv4 is barely similar to the M1A1, ignoring all the other variants. For example the original M1 and M1IP had a rifled cannon. As I said in my original post, they will happily sell or trade the information to other nations.

              The point is Russia has had access to M1A1 Abrams for like a quarter of a century and has produced precisely nothing that even approaches a basic bitch M1.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >still won't reply to my post with a source or anything because he knows he'll be outed as a contrarianized retard posting schizobabble from Sputnik or a blog

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            M1A2 SEPv4 is barely similar to the M1A1, ignoring all the other variants. For example the original M1 and M1IP had a rifled cannon. As I said in my original post, they will happily sell or trade the information to other nations.

            [...]
            And? Russia has literally traded NLAWs and other western tech to Iran in exchange for support.

            >russia has had abrams since the 1990s
            >before a single one had even been exported
            may I see it?
            >no

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              https://www.thebulwark.com/i-commanded-u-s-army-europe-heres-what-i-saw-in-the-russian-and-ukrainian-armies/

              >The only truly impressive and surprising part of the tour was when we walked through a “secret” field museum that had tanks from all the armies in the world—including several from the United States. The Russians had somehow managed to obtain an M1 Abrams tank (probably from one of their allies in the Middle East), and we all believed the reason they allowed us into this facility was to show us they had our most modern armor.

              >https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M1_Abrams
              >About 5,000 M1A1 Abrams tanks were produced from 1986 to 1992

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                lmao at this entire fucking sham, which "ally" did they get an abrams from in the 90s? the first export order was to Kuwait in 1996 retard
                fucking schizo morons, why is that the only mention of such a thing on all of google?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                https://i.imgur.com/bPYnZoO.png

                >still won't reply to my post with a source or anything because he knows he'll be outed as a contrarianized retard posting schizobabble from Sputnik or a blog

                I don't know man, if you don't believe a literal NATO general saying it in a western defense journal then I don't know what to tell you.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Sure dude, I'll take the word of a guy who saw a mockup in a "museum" rather than find literally any source claiming Kuwait sold Russia a brand new tank the same exact year that they were sold to Kuwait and this somehow set off NO ALARM BELLS at the DoD.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I'm assuming the commander of all NATO forces in Europe can tell a mock up from the real deal up close.
                Also going over the article, the time frame is a bit all over the place, so the mid 90s may well be me just assuming. Even if it's from the mid 00s though, That's like 15 years to use it to develop something good, and they haven't been able to.
                Why are you getting so outraged by this? I'm not even trying to troll you.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                you are deadass trying to troll. Look at the dates. Why hasn't he said this anywhere else? Why has there been no attempt to stop sales to Kuwait if they sold one of our tanks the SAME YEAR they got one?
                Think anon, use the head.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I sent Bulwark an email regarding Hertling's claims, so let's see what they say.
                >I was sent the following article as proof that Russia had acquired at least one M1 Abrams tank as of 1994, which is the first year that deliveries began to Kuwait (https://www.thebulwark.com/i-commanded-u-s-army-europe-heres-what-i-saw-in-the-russian-and-ukrainian-armies/).
                >Considering the enormous national security implications of this, I'm curious as to why this is the only place I've seen such a claim made, nor was there any apparent follow-up. I do not know if you have frequent contact with Mr Hertling, but if you know a good way to contact him for further clarification I would sincerely appreciate it.
                >Note: I don't have a twitter account.
                >Thank you,

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Let's say you're correct. If it was the case, you're telling me that a country that can't even obtain enemy armor is going to somehow reverse engineer a Chally 2 to the extent that Chally 3 is going to be obselete?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                No. How did you even get that from my post? What I said was, Russians haven't even been able to reverse engineer an Abrams and they've had it for 15-25 years. You're making the exact point I am.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                What? Your post is saying that the museum is fake and that Russia has no Abrams.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          fuckin indonesia has nlaw.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They don't actually have 3s yet, and also aren't planning on upgrading their entire stock of 2s, so there's nothing really to lose in throwing a few of the surplus at Ukraine

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        That was my point, I explained poorly. See

        No my point was they're giving Challenger 2's to Ukraine who will most likely lose one to Russia and Russia then gets hold of the wreck and researches it and the Challenger 3 is the same thing with a different gun. Therefore the Challenger 3 which is meant to be until like 2070 or some shit for the UK is going to be easily dealt with in that regard.
        >b-b-but Russia won't be a threat by then a-a-and
        Then they'll sell it to some other nation. They've already done that with NLAWs and shit.

        [...]
        We don't know what it'd look like, but it is certainly going to be better than Challenger 2 with a '''new''' gun.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >exactly the same tank with a different gun
      It's an entirely different turret

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        That doesn't change the hull and the layout of the tank. It will still be the same and still have the same weak points if investigated. A new tank is a new tank.

        Anon, it's top armour is weak, if they wanted to kill it in future they can

        Yeah but it isn't just about how to kill it, but performance and other issues. It's like in WW2, the Me-109's were engineering wise better than the Spitfires at the time but the Spitfires were performing better for some reason.. until the Germans recovered a crashed Spitfire in France and discovered it was using a much better fuel source and they copied it and suddenly Spitfires weren't slightly better than the Me-109's but were not as good in some areas.

        That's my point. Like, if USA had loads of M60 tanks, sending them is better than Abrams because you don't use M60's. But a Challenger 2 is basically the same tank as the Challenger 3 which isn't due to be done until like 2030. Having technical info on what is essentially a very slightly 'upgraded' tank gives you enough information to either copy stuff or modify stuff to deal with it. That's all.

        Meanwhile a brand new design, top to bottom, would be useless to them because they'd have nothing to base it on. Thanks all. Just saying they should have designed a new tank from the ground up.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Oh no not performance kek
          The armour in it is decades old, and realistically it's not the thing that will matter in future warfare.
          There is nothing in that tank they will learn from a burnt out wreck that they couldn't have guessed on their own.
          There are burnt out Abrams after all.

  23. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    So shit piles up, some jdams here, some tanks here, some bradleys there. You wouldn't just place them randomly, you'd do some kind of offensive. I wonder if all of these little deliveries are pieces of one giant offensive plan that is approaching

  24. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Commit your fucking troops already i don't want to get drafted

  25. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Konashenkov: russian armed forces destroyed all 85 Challenger 2 tanks sent to Ukraine
    >Sunak: we have yet to deliver them, but thanks for these inspiring numbers anyway

  26. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Anglos really are meddling pieces of shit who have fucked up the world as much as garden gnomes in the last 300 years.

  27. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What does Russia have to use against tanks? I assume they don't have as many stingers/NLAW equivalents as Ukraine does, so is it going to be tanks vs tanks?

  28. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    UK is literally the only based European country and takes their commitments serious. They have very little to give in terms of heavy weapons but aren't afraid to give what they have. Biden should've told western Europe to fuck off the moment they started dragging their feet on howitzers for months and simply coordinated further actions with the UK & Poland/Czechs/Balts. Macron could go back to his phone sex sessions with Putin and Germany could continue their tree hippie larp. Ukraine meanwhile would be flying and driving Abrams by now.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      As a Bong I'm just ashamed we let our armed forces wilt to the point that our contribution is so small. I wish we could send 500 MBTs and a million 155s

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      tbf we've been helping europeans kill eachother for 900 years, it's how we survive

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You’re goddamn right.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >1 baker
          Tell me about him.

  29. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    so 100s of brimstones

  30. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Should be 50 Challenger 2s at least.

    A dozen, well they should be used near Kiev and not moved around too much. I get that it's mostly a symbolic gesture, but still.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      14

      there probably aren't 50 functioning challengers in existence

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Source? Sounds like you made that up

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Should be 50 Challenger 2s at least.
      Maybe the MoD just want to see how the 14 they're sending perform and how the Ukies perform with them, if they do well and don't piss em away they may send more

  31. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    So the Brits have once again set the precedent. No doubt the Challengers will make us all proud.
    The big question, will the Leo hoard follow? There's so many 2A4 in storage and use will we see the Brits pioneering efforts work or will Europe shit the bed and not follow?

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