if a soldier like this existed with that armor but without shield or AI how would one kill him?

if a soldier like this existed with that armor but without shield or AI how would one kill him?

  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Big boolet
    Trap of some kind
    Explosive device
    Fire
    Basically a beefed up version of anything that would normally kill a human

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    With a gun. Even on easy mode master chief gets dropped easy with his shields down by attacked friendlies shooting 7.62. Its not even many shots, if you kill too many marines in CE and they go hostile, they can kill you in like a short burst.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >With a gun.
      Beat me to it. MC dies in the vidya gaems if you pleb up so what kind of question is this?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Realistically speaking you don't, AP weapons possibly and arty. You may have luck disabling it by damaging the power plant on the backpack but even still that would just slow him down.

      That's game play balance, lore wise that shielded armor can eat .50 cal and not even dent. Its is insanely strong and robust. The same thing with Elites armor too.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >game play balance, lore wise that s
        meant to say unshielded *

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      The armor on the back of Chiefs head is 74mm titanium canonically, his chest is probably close to around 70 as well.
      How big of a round do we need to go through it?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        GAU-8 minimum

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      A great deal of that is just gameplay. Hell, I'd say the recoil and spread of Halo guns is gameplay too. If any weapon is difficult to control for a super soldier in strength-enhancing power armor them there's no way a standard marine can reasonably use it.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Halo 7.62x51 is not m80 ball though.

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    As someone who has played Halo, I can tell you that the main thing that kills him is a lack of common sense. I always charge forth into 2 hunters because I think I'm the greatest thing since sliced bread.

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I still don't get how regular-ass rifle rounds are a threat to these suits. Is it just a gameplay thing? Ain't no way 7.62 NATO is punching through half a ton of Titanium-A.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      idk about the Titanium but some part are exposed

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      That's just how armour works, it's really not that good against much of anything when it comes to modern firearms
      MJOLNIR armour is still remarkably tough even without its shield, the Chief can soak like half a mag of 7.62x51 without going down provided none of them get him in the face

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      The problem with Halo is the same problem with a lot of anime, that is power level scaling is all over the fucking place. Lore wise a single Spartan II can take down an entire army not just from how big and strong they are with the armor but especially from how fast they can move and how good their reflexes are. They could punch a vehicle speeding towards them from out of nowhere without even knowing they did it while gunning everyone around down. But obviously something like that would roflstomp virtually everything they come into contact with so they gotta either be scaled down somehow or have another enemy thats just ludicrous, since the Spartans are basically biological terminators with all sorts of augments and surgeries done since childhood. IRL they’d have actual aimbots and wallhacks with their AI assistant on top of everything else while skittering around like a rabid chihuahua on every opioid at once, which may sound great on paper but could make a boring game since there’s basically no challenge at all unless you puposely handicap yourself. He’s kind of like Doomguy where he singlehandedly terrorized and genocided hell for eons with his bare hands while becoming an immortal god but can die to lava in game.
      >this is also the same universe where plain jane 7.62 FMJ is still standard issue and open seat technicals replaced shit like IFV’s while drone warfare is practically nonexistent to name just a few goofy things

      https://i.imgur.com/EKIeZMF.jpg

      Mjolnir Mk V. Is the best version of the armor aesthetically. It perfectly captures what Mjolnir is supposed to be. Cutting edge power armor that's sleek and futuristic looking yet built like a fucking tank.

      Honestly anything beats the eye cancer that is 343’s designs. That stuff actually hurts to look at.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        > their AI assistant
        Technically speaking, your average Spartan isn’t going to have an AI. They have the capability to run one on their armor, but typically even a dumb AI would be a massive waste to tie to a single soldier. Cortana/Master Chief is a unique situation since Cortana was basically designed to be deployed via Spartan since her reason for existence is to support the mission of capturing a Prophet. Throw in the fact that Cortana specifically chose Master Chief, that they work extremely well together, and that I suspect she would go full yandere if some beam counter tried to reassign her to do something else.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >tfw no sexy blue yandere ai gf living in your head

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            I feel bad for Cortana. She was basically begging for his Spartan Laser, but between of the augmentations and him being a autistic savant in the field of killy, he’s basically shonen anime protagonist tier asexual/dumb

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              He can't put his dick in her. Besides he has no sex drive when his suit jacks him off

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >his suit jacks him off
                If only that bit of lore was real.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Do women really look like that

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I regret to inform you that women typically aren't blue or purple.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Canonically all Spartans have almost no sex drives whatsoever despite being literal cream of the crop hyper chads, its to do with a thyroid implant they receive. They’re still fertile of course, they just have no interest in the deed.
              >not sure about the IVs but they’re gay as hell anyways so screw them

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Read Christopher Rowley's Vang series (Starhammer, The Military Form, The Battlemaster) to find out. It's what Halo was plagiarized from.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Not to mention the ships from aliens. Kino regardless, when was the last time anything was completely originally and not hot garbage? There certainly isn't an example from after 1999.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I learned about Marathon, Bungies big game before Halo. They didn't just make a sci fi series about John Halo beating mean old aliens, they made a series about a constantly reincarnated hero that has been around as long as the written language.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          In the hands of better people, in a better time, we could have had THE defining work of scifi-Mythology, a legendary cycle told in three parts across fifty years that would have had an impact on literature for generations to come.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Yes, it's a gameplay thing. In game a traffic cone moving at 200mph can penetrate heavy armor.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Likely gameplay. Sure, something high caliber enough to go through a visor but the armor itself is heavy titanium stuff. At minimum, it's more durable than body armor today. Of course, players would be pissed having to empty an entire magazine even AFTER shields are gone in PvP.

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    A missile. He almost gets killed by one even with Cortana and a shield in the Fall of Reach, it was only thanks to anime bullshit he didn't get splattered.

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Missile barrage and or tactical nuclear device.

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous
  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Drop a PGM or ten on his head. In the books he deflected a missile away from outright killing him but the effort nearly killed him. Plus there's the fact the missile was only deflected via a backhand slap so that also exploded. High explosives will kill him. Tossing infantry at the man just leads to their death.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >In the books he deflected a missile away from outright killing him

      How?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Slapped it so the explosive warhead exploded to the side instead of directly against him.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          bro read the Fall of Reach holy fuck

          Genetically augmented power armoured bitch slap
          Cortana did the maths from him so he just moved when she said so

          The covenant don't even use """missiles""". Wanna explain again why a missile was even coming at him?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Testing the new Mjolnir version vs an army commander that rigged the test to kill him out of professional jealousy.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Live fire exercise at a UNSC proving ground
            technically they weren't supposed to be firing missiles at him either but someone wanted to make damn sure they were getting their moneys worth out of the project

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            It's a test of the integration of MJOLNR and advanced A.I., I.E. Cortana. bros can still shoot missiles at bros

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            they and they are more effective then the plasma, they just don't because its older and logistically it's easier to use plasma. The brutes have their own missiles too.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            read the fucking book gay

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        bro read the Fall of Reach holy fuck

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Genetically augmented power armoured bitch slap
        Cortana did the maths from him so he just moved when she said so

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >how would one kill him?
        According to the books you just go around talking about how you are an innsurectionist who has a bunch of SHIVA warheads and then ONI will send him right to you with his friends and you just catch them with an emp trap or something. Just dont miss the last one.

        He literally caught it and threw it back.

        [...]
        [...]
        The covenant don't even use """missiles""". Wanna explain again why a missile was even coming at him?

        The UNSC military was participating in a training drill with him and tried to kill him because they have been butthurt about him since he punched the nuts off of a ODST in a gym.

        The problem with Halo is the same problem with a lot of anime, that is power level scaling is all over the fucking place. Lore wise a single Spartan II can take down an entire army not just from how big and strong they are with the armor but especially from how fast they can move and how good their reflexes are. They could punch a vehicle speeding towards them from out of nowhere without even knowing they did it while gunning everyone around down. But obviously something like that would roflstomp virtually everything they come into contact with so they gotta either be scaled down somehow or have another enemy thats just ludicrous, since the Spartans are basically biological terminators with all sorts of augments and surgeries done since childhood. IRL they’d have actual aimbots and wallhacks with their AI assistant on top of everything else while skittering around like a rabid chihuahua on every opioid at once, which may sound great on paper but could make a boring game since there’s basically no challenge at all unless you puposely handicap yourself. He’s kind of like Doomguy where he singlehandedly terrorized and genocided hell for eons with his bare hands while becoming an immortal god but can die to lava in game.
        >this is also the same universe where plain jane 7.62 FMJ is still standard issue and open seat technicals replaced shit like IFV’s while drone warfare is practically nonexistent to name just a few goofy things
        [...]
        Honestly anything beats the eye cancer that is 343’s designs. That stuff actually hurts to look at.

        >The problem with Halo is the same problem with a lot of anime, that is power level scaling is all over the fucking place.

        During the bungie era this was not the case. The entirety of Halo Reach is a bunch of top teir spartans accomplishing great things and all getting slowly picked off anyways. Only master cheif is the exceptional unstoppable one during the bungie era of halo games. It wasnt until halo 4 that things got stupid.

        Ankle deep water.

        >someone hasnt done any underwater driving on the silent cartographer island.

        read the fucking book gay

        Wort wort wort

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >a bunch of top teir spartans accomplishing great things
          More like a bunch of dummies being dicked around by ONI. Then Covenant plot armor spawning undetectable hyperdrive ships to screw them up. Hell, I'd go as far to say many of their deaths were unnecessary and just a result of split-second dumbass choices like Carter not deciding to fly up and armor lock before slimming down.

          Then again, no death in Halo out-stupids Miranda Keyes. That death still has to be the single dumbest in the franchise.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >Hell, I'd go as far to say many of their deaths were unnecessary and just a result of split-second dumbass choices like Carter not deciding to fly up and armor lock before slimming down.
            Carter was already mortally wounded and didnt want to risk the pelican missing its target so he rode it all the way.
            >Then again, no death in Halo out-stupids Miranda Keyes. That death still has to be the single dumbest in the franchise.
            Yeah. But she was always a dumb girl power write in character anyways and I guess girl power has its limits lol.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      And was able to run 100 meters in 8 seconds immediately after,rupturing his achilles tendon clean off immediately after.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      He did that with shields and the AI, OP says no to either

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    One AT Mine would fucking melt Master Chief

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >blend into local populace
    >Find out what transport he's on
    >kill and replace/recruit mechanic
    >Place IED
    >Wait until they're out in the boonies and blow said IED
    Fucking JoJo'd his ass.

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    You need to stop him moving, the armor isn't that tough but a SPARTAN II is sanic fast in combat, difficult to pin (because armor) and good at using cover/concealment which makes them very difficult to hit
    large amounts of high explosives can make up for that if applied judiciously to the area

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >The armor isn't that tough

      Shootem in the joints.

      What we know:
      >Armor is a titanium-ceramic alloy
      >Chief is not invincible and, according to the books, has been injured via return fire on several occasions
      Mechanism:
      The real question here is how you could get a clear shot at Chief. He's a master of small unit tactics, has the firepower and the mass to make some small assaults fail, and has superior reflexes and agility even in his MJOLNIR. Another anon suggest a trap, and I concur. You just have to be ready for him and him not ready for you. At the end of a day, he's walking tank but still a man.
      The armor:
      For additional reference, Titanium-ceramic was made to counter the increased firepower being found in the Outer Colonies in the form of our beloved 7.62 REAL FUCKING NATO. However, if we use the knowledge of how our modern ceramic and steel plates work, we actually see that, yes, while it would be more durable and absorbant of incoming fire, it's not invulnerable, and will fail after sufficient fire. We also have to take into acount that the armor only covers a percentage of Chief's body. We is still prone to frag and shrapnel. Bouncing betties, claymores, mortars and heavier presighted artillery. Even if the armor could withstand that, his bodyglove is as tough, it's meant for environmental regulation, blunt force, and small calibers (acting like a kevlar vest would).

      In short, take your pick how you get him. Just make sure you get him and are prepared to lose a few people.

      M6D Pistol to the head (1x round)
      or
      EMP his ass then hit him with the shotty

      source: many hours in blood gulch

      In that unbelievably shitty Halo TV show Master Chief says that rounds from the BR (supposed to be significantly superior in penetration to the AP 308 rounds used in the AR) can't even penetrate his visor or undersuit.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        John Halo isn't an accurate depiction of the Master Chief

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >John Halo

          John Stalvern?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        That disgusting lgbtq+ sci-fi tv show monstrosity is not Halo, nor will it ever be Halo, and should never been seen as canon in any way, shape, or form.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Yikes. Trans is the future.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          This. I haven't even watched one full episode up to today.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        The TV show is fanfiction tier canon

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        That theoretically should be the case in story. The writers in Halo Wars said
        >We needed to realize where the canon was flexible in order to squeeze in the things we needed. And, in a few cases, we decided to go against canon to make a better game/experience (e.g. the Spartan’s shield and sound). I don’t know how we would have made those calls without tons of research, chats with Bungie, etc.
        So originally Halo Wars Spartans only had energy shields in gameplay. They changed it after with the 2011 Visual Guide saying
        >Energy shielding was a key feature of Mark V, although Spartan squads had field-tested prototypes of this technology as early as 2531.
        Implying the Halo Wars guys had prototypes but the point still stands. Early Spartans fought and kicked ass without energy shields. Their power armor, even without shields, are state-of-the-art armor and the best shit the UNSC can give to their supersoldiers at the time. If modern day 7.62x51mm can be stopped by any armor today, then MJOLNIR armor can absolutely and easily.

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Shootem in the joints.

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    BXR

  14. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Mjolnir Mk V. Is the best version of the armor aesthetically. It perfectly captures what Mjolnir is supposed to be. Cutting edge power armor that's sleek and futuristic looking yet built like a fucking tank.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Agreed. Mk V will always be the best looking armor in the game.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      For me, it's pic.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Lots of weapons fire after being led into a pre-prepared kill zone, the last bit is important.

      The biggest challenge in H4 is not the game, but making a set of multiplayer armor that doesn't look like a decal job gone wrong.
      >343 spent a decade releasing "coatings" and never once made anything resembling actual camo patterns

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      It also helps that the armor ressembles a cosmonaut suit in a military fashion.

  15. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Ankle deep water.

  16. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Any vaguely modern guided anti-tank munition, he's not fast enough to dodge it and not armored enough to shrug it off.
    >inb4 nuh huh he totally could
    Ok, then a cruise missile.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      read higher up in the thread
      If you could immobilise him long enough to get a hit then sure even basic bitch HEAT would punch right through no trouble

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      > he's not fast enough to dodge it and not armored enough to shrug it off.
      Except canonically, he did just that

  17. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    What we know:
    >Armor is a titanium-ceramic alloy
    >Chief is not invincible and, according to the books, has been injured via return fire on several occasions
    Mechanism:
    The real question here is how you could get a clear shot at Chief. He's a master of small unit tactics, has the firepower and the mass to make some small assaults fail, and has superior reflexes and agility even in his MJOLNIR. Another anon suggest a trap, and I concur. You just have to be ready for him and him not ready for you. At the end of a day, he's walking tank but still a man.
    The armor:
    For additional reference, Titanium-ceramic was made to counter the increased firepower being found in the Outer Colonies in the form of our beloved 7.62 REAL FUCKING NATO. However, if we use the knowledge of how our modern ceramic and steel plates work, we actually see that, yes, while it would be more durable and absorbant of incoming fire, it's not invulnerable, and will fail after sufficient fire. We also have to take into acount that the armor only covers a percentage of Chief's body. We is still prone to frag and shrapnel. Bouncing betties, claymores, mortars and heavier presighted artillery. Even if the armor could withstand that, his bodyglove is as tough, it's meant for environmental regulation, blunt force, and small calibers (acting like a kevlar vest would).

    In short, take your pick how you get him. Just make sure you get him and are prepared to lose a few people.

  18. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    M6D Pistol to the head (1x round)
    or
    EMP his ass then hit him with the shotty

    source: many hours in blood gulch

  19. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    shoot the hands, neck or knees because they are basically unarmored to increase flexibility

  20. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    a high volume of fire. roll the dice enough times and you'll find a chink in the armor

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Find a chink in his armor.
      Damned Commies can't even stay out of fictional armor.

  21. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    fire

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      This thing never existed

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        still a solid concept

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Why not?

  22. 1 month ago
    Anonymous
    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/ZZ9X147.jpg

      >blocks your linear narrative path

      He's just misunderstood

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      The most powerful thing in Halo is a Jackel sniper with a beam rifle.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        last post best post

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Halo 2 on Legendary. Fuck, that was a nightmare.

  23. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Like any other target, concentrated and direct firepower.

  24. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >blocks your linear narrative path

  25. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Assuming the armor is functional and better than anything we can make today, you can still just fucking shoot him with a high caliber weapon. The armor isn't going to stop the force of the projectile hitting him, and if it doesn't penetrate or kill him directly, he'll still be neutralized.
    Even a modern soldier in body armor is going to feel it if you shoot him with a 7.62. Now up that to 12.7mm or 20mm.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >The armor isn't going to stop the force of the projectile hitting him, and if it doesn't penetrate or kill him directly, he'll still be neutralized.
      >Noguns detected
      The only BFD kill recorded in modern history was a 45-70 to a sheet of Kevlar lol, a feat that hasnt ever been recreated, even with shotgun slugs.

  26. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Pat him on the back

  27. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Artillery: the bane of above-average soldiers since WWI.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      As you increase individual armor protection you decrease the effective radius of Artillery exponentially.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah. Now what if guided artillery existed so you could match the radius perfectly for any target??

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          No guidance on that scale exists. You'd have to hit him directly, and he's a (in artillery terms) extremely small extremely maneuverable target.

  28. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Spartans are so weak. They need power armor when ODSTs can survive getting shot then waiting in cover a few seconds and the wounds disappear so long as it doesn't dip below the next threshold. They can punch Wraiths and Scorpions until they explode? Big deal. Ever member of Buck's team can jump on a tank and do the same. They're slow too. Give a Spartan a turret and an ODST a turret, the ODST will run faster.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >entire branch gets slipspace accident'd by the writers from H4 onwards

      The Spartan-IVs fear the ODST.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous
  29. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >if a soldier like this existed with that armor but without shield or AI how would one kill him?

    Single punch to the back of the head

  30. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Armor piercing 50 cal

  31. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    with a gun

  32. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    ambush with a team of snipers equiped with either pic related which is the Model 99 Special Application Scoped Rifle, a gauss anti-material rifle.
    >The M99 is also used with a portable computer to provide the ballistic calculations necessary to engage long range targets. The rifle can also be integrated with other systems, such as ARGUS Drones for trajectory and ballistic data. The M99 also uses the ATLAS+ system developed by Ohana.[2]
    >Muzzle Velocity: 15,000 meters/second (9.3 miles/second)
    >Range 4.5km
    A team of snipers set up around the edges of a valley with drone targeting support could tear through anything and prevent any return fire with its extreme range and ability to punch through any cover.

  33. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Overwhelming numbers plus anything chambered in .50 AP or higher.
    He'd probably hole up in a forest or something you can't get vehicles through, plus he's a superhuman with over 30 years of combat experience so you'd probably lose hundreds of men in the fighting but so long as his escape is cut off he's done for eventually.

  34. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    50 bmg or 7.62 nato SLAP

    Explosives

  35. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Shoot an antitank missile at him.
    MC only survived the same happening to him during initial trials because Cortana accelerated his reflexes and worked with him to allow him to bitchslap it away, barely avoiding heavy injury.

    Alternatively, just use something that can penetrate it. Its big thing is the speed and strength boost it gives. The actual armor is not THAT amazing compared to the weapons in play.
    Get a big gun or some captured covie shit.

  36. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    HESH

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