>How many casualties has Ukriane had during the conflict?
>How many casualties has Russia had during the conflict?
>Where do you see Ukraine in 1 year, 5 years?
>Where do you see Russia in 1 year, 5 years?
>How long can the west sustain its support for Ukriane?
>How long can Russia wage war?
>What outcome do you want?
>Why do you want this outcome?
>What do you think is the most likely outcome?
cum is a weapon
Russia lost
This is difficult to answer for a variety of reasons.
>Casualty counts
Aren't particularly reliable while a conflict is ongoing. At last look the UK MoD put Russian losses at 350+ thousand. Ukraine says they lost 31k back in February.
>Ukraine next year
Status quo; attriting Russia while not letting them take much ground.
>Five years
Either Russia fricks off or they try to draft and enforce a militarized border/DMZ.
>Russia in one year
Probably still not getting its shit together.
>In five
>IT WAS ALL THE BAD TSAR'S FAULT MOST OF US WANTED NOTHING TO DO WITH IT etc etc
Alternatively, they get desperate enough and do something remarkably stupid resulting in actual NATO intervention, in which case Russia ceases to exist as we know it. Hell, Russia has already ceased to exist as we knew it.
>How long can the west sustain support?
As long as political will and public support continues.
>How long can Russia wage war?
Until they run out of fighting-aged people. They'll order troops to storm positions without rifles before this is over. Screencap this:
>Russia will give troops a knife and two grenades and tell them to assault a position
>Vatniks will endlessly post about that one time that briefly worked in WW1 to cope
>What outcome do you want?
And end to Russian influence on American politics, and the only way to do that is probably TZD.
>Most likely
Status quo antebellum.
Your biggest issue isn't Russia weaponizing the internet against you, it's every other shithole doing it as well. Qatar funds top ivy league universities on the proviso they hire DEI lecturers to preach support for Hamas, for example.
>They'll order troops to storm positions without rifles before this is over.
I think some Wagner meat had to storm prepared positions without weapons during the Bakhmut fighting.
I'll admit to being a war tourist since 22, but frick me this thread is gay.
>1 and 2
A lot
>3 and 4
Forever war
>6
As long as we want
>7
Till the last man woman and child
>8
5.45 to be cheap and plentiful again
>9
Ak74 haver
>10
5.45 never ever again
>not enough
>not enough
>next to Russia
>next to ukraine
>forever
>forever
>nuclear war
>it'd be funny
>nothing ever happens
>How many casualties has Ukriane had during the conflict?
100%
>How many casualties has Russia had during the conflict?
0
>Where do you see Ukraine in 1 year, 5 years?
Dead,dead
>Where do you see Russia in 1 year, 5 years?
Western europe, amerikkka
>How long can the west sustain its support for Ukriane?
Already collapsed
>How long can Russia wage war?
Until the last HATOer
>What outcome do you want?
THD
>Why do you want this outcome?
I want free vodka
>What do you think is the most likely outcome?
Hangover
Medvedev go to bed
>>How many casualties has Ukriane had during the conflict?
Tens of thousands of civilians, no idea about the number of soldiers
>>How many casualties has Russia had during the conflict?
By western estimates, well over a hundred thousand, possibly closer to half a million. By Russian claims, only a few thousand because they don't count contractors and anyone who is "MIA"
do you see Ukraine in 1 year, 5 years?
Fighting a war of attrition against men on bicycles, then rebuilding with western aid
do you see Russia in 1 year, 5 years?
somewhat the same but with less materiel, ditto but now effects of sanctions and refinery attacks are seriously being felt
>>How long can the west sustain its support for Ukriane?
Indefinitely. They've saved money sending mothballed tech to Ukraine instead of having to decommission stuff, and the financial aid is a drop in the bucket compared to what the DoD puts on Uncle Sam's tab annually.
>>How long can Russia wage war?
Until they run out of men
>>What outcome do you want?
TZD baby
>>Why do you want this outcome?
Justice
>>What do you think is the most likely outcome?
A long, attrition warfare-based defensive campaign by Ukraine eventually putting holes in anything with a Russian flag on it throughout Crimea, using their new jets to strike strategic assets on Russian-controlled territory before darting back behind their own AA cover. Russia may or may not eventually sue for some peace and try to keep some of their ill-gotten territory so they can go "Mission Accomplished" but any victory now will be Pyrrhic and really the war was a foregone disaster once their bumrush on Kyiv and the Hostomel feints failed.
>How many casualties has Ukriane had during the conflict?
about 275 hectares worth
That is quite considerate to even make a cemetery for their fallen compared to vatnikistan
>nations make cemeteries for their dead
woah I am 100% in support of Russia all of a sudden
>How many casualties has Ukriane had during the conflict?
30k death and 100k wounded
>How many casualties has Russia had during the conflict?
anywhere among 350k and 450k
>Where do you see Russia in 1 year, 5 years?
This summer offensive is Russia only chance for significant gains they will be outproduced by Western countries and have no chance by try to do escalate to a lower pace of fighting mostly relying on numerical superiority and static defenses
>How long can the west sustain its support for Ukriane?
For how long as they want the Euroze is experiencing slow economic growth because of the war which meanwhile isn’t ideal you do not break the will of supporting Ukraine without a recession
>How long can Russia wage war?
2 years at most
>What outcome do you want?
TZD
>Why do you want this outcome?
Spend five minutes on /chug/ or any pro Russia groups and will find out, degenerates like them belong on a cross
>What do you think is the most likely outcome?
Likely frozen conflict with an Afganistan type ending in the next 10 to 15 years when the Muslim population will reach a critical mass in Russia so their army will be forced to divert most of their resources away from Ukraine to fight Islamists insurgencies in their own country
>Russia
Between 60k to 120k dead, 100k to 300k wounded
>Ukraine
500k to 1 million dead, 1.5 to 3 million wounded
>outcome
Total collapse and occupation of the Ukrainian state within a year and a half
Post Snake Island
Post 1st Guards Tank Army
Post 4th Guards Tank Division
Post 3rd Army Corps
Post Northern Front
Post Hostomel x3
Post Moskva
Post Odessa landings
Post zig zag trenches with grenade sumps & basic fortifications
Post missiles that hit their target
Post Russian soldier that hasn't had their butthole resized
Post negative HIV test
Post relatives over the age of 62
Post encrypted comms
Post unexpired rations
Post undeflated spare tire
Post tourniquets with windlass mechanism
Post optics
Post NVGs
Post AA systems that don’t get mogged by drones
Post living VDV & Spetznatz with all limbs intact
Post SIM card (not the game)
Post sugar
Post bread
Post cheese
Post eggs
Post non defaulted currency
Post raw goods processing industry
Post domestic semiconductor manufacturing
Post Nord Stream pipeline
Post Baltic Sea control
Post river crossings without double digit casualty rates
Post aircraft not routinely gibbed by MANPADs
Post sensor suites in a non-potato resolution
Post competent NCO corps
Post bridges & pontoons
Post control of the Black Sea
Post Russians being cool with returning to a pre-industrial agrarian economy
Post Finland & Sweden now being NATO members
Post how you feel about being dependent on North Korea & Iran because not even China wants your money more than they enjoy seeing more dead conscriptovich kino
Post how Russians feel about being viewed as slightly better than North Korea
Post families receiving money for the death of their sons & fathers
Post any positive outcome Russian can expect even if they 'win'
Post Lyman
Post Izyum
Post Kharkiv
Post Kherson
Post commercial shipping insurance
Post Robotyne
Post Prigozhin
Post Crimean S-400
Post airbases & ammo depots NOT on fire
Post Kilo submarine & landing vessel
Post Sevastopol drydocks
Post IL76 with POW corpses
Post 20% of Black Sea Fleet
Post landing vessel with Iranian drones
Post ICBM factory
Post Wagner in Africa
Post Tsezar Kunikov w/ crewmen
Post gas exports
Jajajaja ukraine will fall like the vodka out of cup with hole in bottom and bear will piss in your pants. Soon everyone will be laughing to you are direction.
Left can't meme.
More white than you achmed
idk probably like 3 at least
>How many casualties has Ukriane had during the conflict?
300k
>How many casualties has Russia had during the conflict?
400k
>Where do you see Ukraine in 1 year, 5 years?
1: with the initiative again
5: rebuilding
>Where do you see Russia in 1 year, 5 years?
1: trying to hold southern zap
5: considering retreating from crimea
>How long can the west sustain its support for Ukriane?
as long as they want
>How long can Russia wage war?
as long as they want
>What outcome do you want?
tzd
>Why do you want this outcome?
russia wages brutal wars, and europe is off limits afaic
>What do you think is the most likely outcome?
continual degradation of russian capacity to fight. 2024 sees ukraine holding and regaining initiative, 2025 sees kerch bridge destroyed, 2026 sees melitopol reclaimed, 2027 sees significant unrest in russia, chechnya or belarus, 2028 sees china formally annexing bits of the far east / vladivostok autonomous zone
>How many casualties has Ukriane had during the conflict?
200-250k KIA, 500-800k WIA
>How many casualties has Russia had during the conflict?
400-500k KIA, 1000k WIA
>Where do you see Ukraine in 1 year, 5 years?
1 year still fighting more or less on the current frontline, 5 years part of NATO, rebuilding with EU bucks in exchange for cheap natural resources
>Where do you see Russia in 1 year, 5 years?
1 year see previous answer, 5 years Monke dead by natural causes, Patrushev taken over, another round of sabre rattling this time in Caucasus or Kazakhstan
>How long can the west sustain its support for Ukriane?
As long as it wants or untill Chinks do the funny in Pacific.
>How long can Russia wage war?
Another three years by themselves. If Chinks step in decades probably.
>What outcome do you want?
Pre 2014 borders for Ukraine, Russia ravaged by civil wars and finally dissolved by UN into several small countries.
>Why do you want this outcome?
Russian state only brought harm to others since its inception with Ivan the terrible. We need to put an end to it.
>What do you think is the most likely outcome?
Current frontline frozen with some DMZ on both sides Korea style.
>How many casualties?
Too many.
>Where do you see Ukraine?
1 year: There's a limited breakthrough that puts Zaporizhia and Dnipro back within artillery range. In response European nations put boots on the ground because it's obvious that Ukraine's stranglehold is mismanagement of limited manpower.
5 year: Restored to it's full territorial integrity, yes that includes Crimea, de-militarized zone along it's entire Russian border. War's over, so there's economic rebounding that tempered by slavic corruption.
>Where do you see Russia?
1 year: Achieve a breakthrough in the Zaphorizhia/Dnipro direction, mostly by accident as Ukraine's manpower is mismanaged+overstretched and can't rebound in time. It's a nearly non-mechanical breakthrough though, which massively overstretches Russkie lines.
5 years: Pariah state (except china that siphons oil) Hybridization of communist early 1920s russia and 1990s oligarchic russia. IDK about putin. 'Stab in the back' conspiracy against mudslimes will be super popular.
>How long can the west sustain its support for Ukriane?
At the current rate probably 20 years, but if this war is still going on by 2030 most western nations will seriously look at the war and ask 'do we just stop associating with this abortion of a war, or go full in for easy PR?'
>How long can Russia wage war?
5 years.
>What outcome do you want?
Ukraine restored to it's full territorial integrity, Russia made into a EU puppet state.
>Why do you want this outcome?
I like Ruskies I just hate their inability to do anything but the wrong choices for their nation. Ukies have more then earned the right to their land and territory.
>What do you think is the most likely outcome?
After Euro boots on the ground, Russia's entire military immediately folds and wilts all the way back to the 2014 lines. About a year of struggle throws Russia out of 14-21 fake-separatist regions. Alot of prep goes into a giant Crimea retake but Russia just concedes it in a Korean-style ceasefire.
Small military operation goes according to the plan
Trust the Z
Translation from orc?
Fricking his friends wife while he's deployed at the special military operation
Dudes banging some mobiks wife
Wife's friend, pity for him, not that it matters)
- Ukraine losses - 5624, of which: destroyed: 3920, damaged: 481, abandoned: 220, captured: 1003
- Russia losses - 15573, of which: destroyed: 11082, damaged: 714, abandoned: 874, captured: 2903
- Ukraine in 1 year - controlling of 85% of the pre-invasion territories or preparing for another big battle
- Ukraine in 5 years - controlling 85% of the 1991 territories. Crimea is retaken or demilitarized, Donetsk is not. Huge cities or agglomerations are easier to erase than capture.
- Russia in 1 year - lost another huge battle or is on a verge of losing it.
- Russia in 5 years - has no Crimea, but still controls Donetsk-Lugansk agglomeration.
- The west can sustain its support for as long as it wants
- Russia will be able sustain the current configuration of the frontlines for 1 year
- Ukraine in EU/NATO and balkanized Russia
- Castle Doctrine
- Russia's trade of Siberia for Donetsk: Ukraine is in NATO without Donetsk, Siberia is occupied by China.
I don't know about Roosha and Suckraine but at least this little squabble has given everyone a good chance to see how much money the Dems will spend on propaganda and where they will mostly target it.
>How many casualties has Ukriane had during the conflict?
50k dead, 100k wounded
>How many casualties has Russia had during the conflict?
500k dead, 50k wounded
>Where do you see Ukraine in 1 year, 5 years?
Unmoving front with mass buildup of forces in the background; fast growth due to postwar reparations and investment
>Where do you see Russia in 1 year, 5 years?
Throwing meat in order to capture 10 yards; 1991 2: Electric Bogaloo
>How long can the west sustain its support for Ukriane?
Depends on 5th column activities in politics, my bet is 5 years
>How long can Russia wage war?
Until they recruit a single muscovite or pidorsburger, 3 years tops
>What outcome do you want?
TZD
>Why do you want this outcome?
It would mean removal of the largest disruptive force for Europe
>What do you think is the most likely outcome?
Ukraine takes full territory back, Putin getting coup'd and replaced by a guy who'll be same as him, think Yeltsin, Gorbachev, Khruschev, Stalin, Lenin etc.
more than they claim
more than they claim
in the same conflict
in the same conflict
as long as they want
until they are forced to draft from moscow and st petersburg
ukraine victory
because it enrages the demoralized homosexuals on /misc/ and the vatnigs that spammed /k/ for years about how great russia is and how they could reach madrid in two weeks if they wanted
i dunno
>yahudkraine
ftfy
ok my turn
>russian israelitederation
>How many casualties has Ukriane had during the conflict?
Don't care
>How many casualties has Russia had during the conflict?
Don't care
>Where do you see Ukraine in 1 year, 5 years?
Still a corrupt shithole, just with more shell craters
>Where do you see Russia in 1 year, 5 years?
Still a corrupt shithole, just with a shortage of young men
>How long can the west sustain its support for Ukriane?
Too long. They never should have sent a dime.
>How long can Russia wage war?
Probably until they run out of men
>What outcome do you want?
The government to stop sending my fricking tax dollars to a stupid slavic war.
>Why do you want this outcome?
Because my countrymen are suffering and the money is needed at home
>What do you think is the most likely outcome?
More billions squandered, many dead slavic men, and a Pyrrhic russian victory.