I don't think there's a single movie that shows the outbreak happening and the collapse of society. Why is everything post-apocalyptic?
I don't think there's a single movie that shows the outbreak happening and the collapse of society. Why is everything post-apocalyptic?
because most zombie movies are B-movie tier predictable garbage
They aren't even that good.
Everything about them reeks of cheap, low budget shit.
Because showing the outbreak and collapse of society is expensive. Much easier to just show the survivors screwing around in some safe heaven in the middle of nowhere and have deep and especially cheap conservations about where they were when SHTF
This. Also why most movies that show the outbreak/downfall and chaos of society only show it for like the first 20-30mins.
reject live action. retvrn to anime
Is there anymore like that?
WWZ being PG13 was fricking stupid
I Am A Hero
Zom 100: Bucket List of the Dead
Apocalypse no Toride
Dead Days
Tokyo Undead
>I Am A Hero
Was about to post this. Good zombie movie.
Thanks for these, although I think I Am A Hero is on a different level from the other suggestions (haven't read Dead Days).
A few more suggestions (vaguely) in the same genre:
Cradle of Monsters
Infection
Cage of Eden (no zombies)
Survive Romance
Hour of the Zombie
Sweet home
None of these are very good though, decent at best.
I love this anime. It is such a classic among me and my brother.
Those are some weird shaped tiddies. Dropped.
filtered by tittykino
oh brother it get's worse don't worry
frick off troony
a shame the sequel to it just fricking faded out of existence despite the film performing pretty good; ended on such a cliffhanger too
Stop wearing dresses you gay
No thanks, I am not troony
Rip to the author
Shit even by anime standards. Its not gory enough for a zombie show, too much borderline henti for a normal show. If it had just been a hardcore gorenography it would passable but it toes to many lines.
read the manga you anime gay
imagine being subhuman enough to read japanesse comic books
High school titty kino
Reminder that HoTD is forever dead because the writer died.
it will come back as a zombie
Because it’s expensive and most zombie movies are cheap garbage
I would even watch something like Fido that didn't center around zombies as much. Just a story set in a post zombie outbreak work where humanity mostly already won.
>Just a story set in a post zombie outbreak work where humanity mostly already won.
People shit on The Postman, but I actually liked it.
>post apocalypse movie that shows the world recovering and rebuilding society
I liked it too
I shit on the postman because of its lame ending
Postman only gets minus points for not being like the book, where the postman and the militia leader were absurdly strong, post-human supersoldiers from the last war.
postman has turbokino first act and then it gets a bit meh but still good
I like the Postman, but I still can't call it kino because frankly it tries too hard. If they had dialed down on the Saturday morning cartoon stuff it would've been a legitimate classic.
WWZ did it and the first two resident evil movies does it kind of
WWZ never had a patient zero or a confirmed origin.
Yes it did you fricking moron.
korean jail scene
lol did they change the story about patient 0 to be a korean? IT was some chink in backwater village in the book
they go visit a CIA in jail and he tells them how it started there from some guy in the jungle biting people and how north korea took out all the teeth in the country overnight so it does cover the origin
>how north korea took out all the teeth in the country overnight
Do Americans really?
its in the movie its a night or a week or some shit i don't remember but it was fast
How's WWZ? I don't know what to watch tonight
the first half is good but just stop watching after that
It's literally just a disaster movie where zombies are the disaster. You've got everything, the traveling family, the globetrotting, escape vehicles leaving in the nick of time, and the Noah's ark where civilization is safe to start anew. The only thing it's missing is the wife being estranged and one of the kids having some sort of photogenic disorder like autism or diabetes
>The only thing it's missing is the wife being estranged and one of the kids having some sort of photogenic disorder like autism or diabetes
It sort of has those as the wife hates him working for the UN and one of the daughters has asthma.
Worth a watch, lots of good scenes, not the greatest ever but quite interesting
It's my favorite zombie movie even if PrepHole hates it. I also have a soft spot for [spoiler]Silent Hill [/spoiler]
It's fricking stupid. I don't want to retread what anon said
But it's basically plot contrivances and Gary Stu Brad Pitt with hilariously dumb sprinting CGI-zombies whose power levels vary based on how in danger Brad Pitt is in.
Watch more zombie movies.
It's okay. Also I need a Pepsi right now.
You can try other zombie apocalypse media. I recommend Afterlife With Archie. Even though it is never gonna be finished, it still is a great zombie apocalypse story.
Because a zombie apocalypse is too unrealistic
>slow moving
>clearly uncureable, they're literally rotting flesh
>zombies are rarely recognizable as your loved ones because of rotting
>vulnerable to bullets and blunt objects
>can be escaped from by climbing a ladder or even a regular staircase
Similarly a zombie apocalypse too far into the future would be unrealistic as eventually their flesh would decay too much to enable movement, so every zombie movie happens in a specific sweet spot
Diary of the Dead tried doing it.
Something like the 28 Days later virus could work I think.
I agree that it would have to be fast zombies to be truly a world threat, but humans take a couple days to start getting gross in most conditions and the first couple days are all that matter for the point you’re making.
fast zombies wouldn't be much of a threat either
needs to include animals
animals and everyone is fricked with no hope of ever surviving, just rats alone would frick everyone let alone including every animal and insect, fricking horse fly's or any insect capable of biting a human would leave us extinct
rats and birds would make a proper horrorkino
You could just stick to animals with similarity to humans, so birds/mammals.
>horse fly's or any insect capable of biting
Oh no no no!
Theres places where horseflies come in huge swarms that look like huge black clouds moving through the air. They dont frick around.
Okay cool, now get that setup for everyone, and send them into the woods and mountains to kill the billions of them reproducing everywhere feeding off animals.
>insecticide will kill undead insects
moron
>needs to include animals
Most of us wouldn't last very long.
>the outbreak happening and the collapse of society.
do you even go outside?
literally the description of an average person today
>rotten brain
>rotting flesh because chemicals in food
>slow moving because fat
>can be escaped by climbing a ladder because they are fat
>vulnerable to bullets
There's literally nothing new to show, I bet if they filmed an average american city it would look like a city after a nuclear strike without too much editing
>>the outbreak happening and the collapse of society.
>do you even go outside?
Thanks for your contribution to the thread. A very valuable answer to OP's question
>moronic terminally online polgay tries to discuss film
>Ow the edge
>slow moving
Don't need to eat, sleep, poop. Immune to fatigue and psychology.
They're the ultimate endurance hunters.
>clearly uncureable, they're literally rotting flesh
And?
>zombies are rarely recognizable as your loved ones because of rotting
So?
>vulnerable to bullets and blunt objects
Limited effective target zones; bullets run out and blunt objects put you within their reach.
>can be escaped from by climbing a ladder or even a regular staircase
Escape to where? The upper floor of a house where you're just going to die of thirst or hunger?
anon we literally have tanks
>bullets run out
so true someone tell the army to go back to using swords!
oh wait swords break too i guess we better just use martial arts
Do you know how much fuel a tank takes to run? How much training is needed to crew one, and how much maintenance is needed to keep it running? If the zombie causing disease is spread by air then tanks are useless hunks of metal.
>spread by air
So not established lore for essentially all zombie fiction?
Walking Dead, and Left4Dead both have airborne infection.
The Last of Us as well, but they gimp it by only making it airborne in dark, enclosed spaces.
I Am legend has it too but you can argue that they aren't zombies I guess.
You would need a long incubation time for the virus to spread, insta zombie like 28 Days Later or even a few hours is insufficient time. What we really need is a global zombie apocalypse film with Australia remaining untouched and laughing at all the sick c**ts.
I would take zombie apocalypse over living in Australia
>implying there's a difference.
They have PSAs for not sleeping on the road and not huffing gas fumes.
>aussies try to banter that it's too dangerous to live in American cities
>meanwhile there are fricking trees in Australia with poisonous stingers
>trees in Australia with poisonous stingers
I live in the Sonora Desert. We have plenty of plants that will ruin your day.
One of the reasons why Mad Max was made. Has to be pretty fricking rough in the outback. Maybe similar to some rednecks in the US.
Abbos are so fricking stupid
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Same, honestly.
i'm waiting for you to explain how a single tank can be defeated by practically any number of zombies
all of your criticisms can equally be levied against conventional warfare and yet we still use tanks and tanks are known to be highly useful in war
an armed soldier is much much more deadly than a zombie
>If the zombie causing disease is spread by air
which amounts to what exactly?
corpses turn into zombies?
just give everyone a heartbeat sensor and when they flatline have an alarm sound and swat go deal with them
>then tanks are useless hunks of metal.
not at all because you would still have a perimeter on society and supposing some giant horde of zombies came shambling somehow it would be very useful
so what you are saying is we don't even need tanks all you need is a big mad max truck to run over lots of zombies?
>Look at the fact that the Ukraine war has drained countries like France and Germany of small arms ammo
yes and unlike in a zombie apocalypse we don't have a war economy
a lot more ammo was used in ww2 but they also made a lot less consumer junk
>You think fifty tanks could deal with, say, a million zombies in an urban outbreak?
yes very very easily because no amount of zombies could actually destroy a tank the only thing they could do is pile so many corpses on it after it has ran out of fuel that the crew can't even open the door anymore and so slowly starve to death
>And then you have to leave the tank to refuel and rearm.
how exactly do you think they do this in war?
do you think the crew climb out and start drilling for oil?
the tanks can run away, go back to a safe place, and refuel there
>b-but what if they run out on the way???
again this is solved problem from real life warfare
the simple fact is zombies are no where near as threatening as conscripts
>so what you are saying is we don't even need tanks all you need is a big mad max truck to run over lots of zombies?
No, I'm saying that your original claim that a classic style slow-zombie apocalypse is easily dealt with is asinine.
>yes and unlike in a zombie apocalypse we don't have a war economy
Pivoting to a 'war economy' is not an overnight process.
Hell look at the supply chain issues we had pivoting to a COVID economy.
And at the end of the day you don't have that long to adjust when every single level of your economy starts falling apart within a month.
>yes very very easily because no amount of zombies could actually destroy a tank the only thing they could do is pile so many corpses on it after it has ran out of fuel that the crew can't even open the door anymore and so slowly starve to death
That doesn't sound like 'very very easily' to me.
Trust me when I say that having less than 4000 rounds per machine gun is not as much as it sounds.
>how exactly do you think they do this in war?
>do you think the crew climb out and start drilling for oil?
>the tanks can run away, go back to a safe place, and refuel there
There is no rear echelon in a zombie apolcalypse, that's kind of the point.
>>b-but what if they run out on the way???
>again this is solved problem from real life warfare
>the simple fact is zombies are no where near as threatening as conscripts
History's graveyards are full of men who mistakenly assumed the enemy was actually as stupid as they thought they were.
>machine gun
You'd just explode zombies and run them over.
This, and tanks are just some of the toys available to a modern military. While a point could be made about Zombies swarming and immobilizing a tank, the same can't be said for airborne stuff, against which zombies have no counter whatsoever. But by far the easiest and cheapest way to deal with a horde would be with artillery. Zombies group together tightly and never take cover, basically fish in a barrel.
>Trust me when I say that having less than 4000 rounds per machine gun is not as much as it sounds.
The main gun wouldn't be as useless as you claim. Just use these things:
https://www.gd-ots.com/munitions/large-caliber-ammunition/120mm-m1028/
>There is no rear echelon in a zombie apolcalypse, that's kind of the point.
There would be if you handle things correctly. "No rear echelon" means that it's already the post-apocalypse, we're talking about containing an outbreak here.
Tanks wouldn't even need to use guns tbh, ever seen a tank punch through a wall or crush a car like tinfoil? No amount of zombie piles would stop a tank because there are not a big flesh mass but many many bodies and arms and legs etc. which would just get mashed.
You wouldn't even need a tank, any vehicle lets you massively outmanouver zombies and shoot them at will, before retreating again.
Zombie tv should be based on a single outbreak where an entire city is quarantined and follow the living trapped inside trying to survive the zombies.
I would imagine the relatvies of zombies would pressure the government to find a cure rather than just mowing them all down once an outbreak area is contained, that gives you a reason for why the military hasn't yeeted them all.
>i'm waiting for you to explain how a single tank can be defeated by practically any number of zombies
It can't, however what he's saying is that there's only so much a tank could do before becoming inoperable. Sure, you would take out hundreds with creative shelling and raking as well as simply squash many hundreds more. Rearming and refueling plus maintenance would be a challenge.
Most of the hesitation with anything like this actually happening would be the human factors. Are these people just sick, what's going on, do we really need to destroy them. Goes back to the psych evals that the people manning silo launchers go through, when ordered to will they actually flip the switch?
I like how this conundrum is represented in enders game, i know people seem to hate the movie over the book, it's a great representation of this problem. Take kids, turn it into a computer game to prepare for the real thing only to find out it was real all along.
>explain how a single tank can be defeated by practically any number of zombies
One zombie crawls onto tank, holds on to side until crewman gets out for one of the dozens of things tank crewmen need to do outside the tank every day, kills him, crawls into rank, kills rest of crew. That’s how a single zombie kills a single tank.
>fuel
Lots. Which we have so.... no problem there
>how much training
To fight in a battle with other tanks and other people trying to kill them? Tons! To quite literally just drive in circles flattening zombies? None... I can do that.
M1 Abrams use turbine engines that guzzle fuel and need a lot of maintenance. Their main guns are designed for killing tanks, not zombies. You think fifty tanks could deal with, say, a million zombies in an urban outbreak? Their combined machine guns carry less than 20,000 rounds in a full loadout. And then you have to leave the tank to refuel and rearm.
Look at the fact that the Ukraine war has drained countries like France and Germany of small arms ammo and cost billions in material support from the US. Shit costs, and as society breaks down, machines stop working and supplies don't get where they need to be.
>so true someone tell the army to go back to using swords!
>oh wait swords break too i guess we better just use martial arts
Grow up, kid.
>Their main guns are designed for killing tanks, not zombies. You think fifty tanks could deal with, say, a million zombies in an urban outbreak?
Do you know what canister shot or HE-FRAG does to a mass of people?
Of course they won't give the tanks 50 APFSDS shells. That's without factoring in that they can just run them over indefinitely
In addition a single M30A1 rocket from a HIMARS or M270 contains 180,000 tungsten ball bearings. So over a million in a six rocket salvo. A zombie horde across open fields could be minced from 50 miles away
>Do you know what canister shot or HE-FRAG does to a mass of people?
I know what it does to living people. Do you know what it does to Zombies?
Kills them, or as a minimum renders them ineffective.
>hurr you need to destroy their head
The pressure wave from a tank shell going off in close proximity smashes your brain to mush inside your skull. When you see people in Ukraine getting thrown into the air by artillery or ammo detonations they're dead well before they hit the ground.
So how are there any Ukrainians left?
Because living people take cover and shoot back. A zombie outbreak is literal fish in a barrel.
Except the barrel is an entire city, and the fish are mostly immune to bullets
>and the fish are mostly immune to bullets
Are they immune to being ripped to shreds by shrapnel, their brains getting bounced apart by overpressure and being incinerated?
There's a lot of shit we don't use because it's a war crime against live enemies. In a zombie outbreak it'd be open season with all the napalm and white phosphorous the military can get its hands on.
They’re more resistant than living humans, that’s for sure.
Sure, that’s a good way to kill a zombie. Now do it a few million times over a hundred square miles all while making sure none of those millions of corpses didn’t survive to infect everyone all over again
In many of the stories, yes they specifically are. The book of World War Z goes over it in detail how these exact weapons don't work on them and it adds to the confusion and chaos. And sometimes the bullets didn't hit the right part of the brain and the zombie keeps going, which starts a panic in the soldiers who start fleeing
It's a zombie story, they have to make up whatever to make it work
>napalm doesn't work
>why
>our asses
great story
is the certain part of the brain a part of the brain that's about to get turned from a solid to a liquid with artillery fire?
I'll add that this effect is multiplied by thermobarics. An outbreak in a city would easily be cleared with thermobaric bombs because they're either set on fire or their internal organs get turned into a fine paste.
>just bomb all the cities
Not that I’m against that, but you dumbos actually consider this a victory?
>grasps at straws to make zombie apocalypses work as a realistic concept
>"grow up kid"
Anon, all of those are common hangups for people being unable to or unwilling to kill them. Your points only make sense if somehow they get to the numbers to actually be an endless horde but the weaknesses described would make that unlikely. Really slow zombies are only an issue because we never see how there got to be so damn many of them in addition to nobody ever even hearing of a zombie in those universes.
that is why zombies are magical creatures. you die you become a zombie. there solved your conundrums.
It really depends on the initial infection vector and lethality. In something like Shaun of the Dead it starts with a flu, and something like that if it ended up killing 20% of people infected that would be enough. You wouldn't be able to mobilize enough police or medical personnel to stop it. The military MIGHT be ok in some places depending on if they also got sick from some kind of airborne infection, but they would only be able to assert dominance in their bases.
project zomboid does it in a somewhat believable way
>exclusion zone is set up in kentucky because of an illness with a guaranteed death
>only 10% of people are immune to the airborne variant
>government is hush about the whole thing and lying while implementing curfews and other shit
>WHO grounds flights way too late allowing it to spread
>mass panic and riots
>military fricks up by killing rioters and the exclusion zone is breached
>world starts plunging into chaos while everyone is getting sick and dying
>death toll is too huge to deal with so zombies start popping up everywhere
I thought the virus went global when the soldiers doing cleanup piled all the infected corpses together and burnt them, allowing the virus to go airborne
actual KINO zombie idea, which could be turned into a ONE SEASON mini series:
>zombie outbreak
>first two weeks it's all about surviving the zombies just like in any other movie
>after the zombies are too decomposed to move it's all the wildlife that ate the bodies that gets infected and it becomes the next big threat that you have to survive
>1 month later after the animals are decomposed, too it's all about the remaining humans turning on each other for survival because 99% of the world got wiped out and there's no food left since the animals all died
Not to mention the idea of governments and militaries, who have thousands of contingency plans and have prepared for every scenario imaginable, collapsing as a result of it is absolutely moronic.
>collapsing as a result of it is absolutely moronic
This gets explained in WWZ and it makes a lot of sense
>go in with heavy artillery, your whole plan is to just kill them off as they approach
>morale has already slipped heavily due to soldiers worrying about their friends and families
>soldiers with bad morale desert or panic
>as soldiers get bitten, zeke gets stronger while you become weaker
Just go find the Battle of Yonkers chapter and see how it goes. It's plausible.
but they didn't collapse, even the UN still exists and coordinates humanity's efforts to fight the zombies. By the end of the war (which ends with civilization damaged but collapsed) the world has undergone massive geopolitical changes, but governments still exist.
which ends with civilization damaged but not collapsed*
>but they didn't collapse
The American military and government absolutely collapsed and had to be rebuilt from almost scratch. What you're basically stating, like a moron, is the equivalent of
>durr the USSR didn't collapse because the Russian Federation exists
>prepared for every scenario imaginable
Lol, have you ever seen any government or military adapt appropriately to a new situation? They all do the same things: Ignore it, blame it on something else, throw bodies at it, end up either winning or failing by doing what they used to do for longer. Governments don’t react, the best ones will slowly adapt after the fact though.
You missed the biggest issue, which is that zombies are dumb and humans are smart.
Humans evolved to take on dumb animals with all kinds of advantages over humans, and we succeed because no matter how many talons and muscles and fangs the animal has, they're dumb and we're smart.
Zombies don't even have claws or fangs, just a 1HK bite attack. As soon as people start getting zombied, the still-healthy are gonna start grouping up and figuring out which tactics are effective.
>start grouping up and figuring out which tactics are effective.
I think Roman legions could have repelled a zombie invasion of Italy. All they have is a bite attack, which wouldn't be very effective against armored and shielded legions fighting with spears and ranged weapons.
because zombies aren't really threatening and we have tanks, helicopters, and stuff
Because there's no way around the fact that zombies are a retarted concept, where magic and science are equally valid reason for their existence.
Not a zombie movie, but survivors did quite a good job of showing everything falling apart. Rewatching it after covid makes it seem very familiar and plausible too.
>Rewatching it after covid
frick off
Frick off covid morons
Isnt Shaun of the Dead what are yoy describing?
How are zombies even a threat to modern day governments and first world countries?
>OH NO, THESE GUYS ARE WALKING SLOWLY AND WE ONLY HAVE TANKS, WHATEVER SHALL WE DO?
You wouldn't even need tanks. Heavy construction equipment could probably kill thousands of them.
Covid just showed how stupid people are. Is not about fighting zombiies but how people would get infected and say "im ok lol nothing gonna happen to me ack!".
And im not talking about mortality, just talking about the spread
I wished Covid was deadlier. It could have solved the boomer problem once and for all.
>OH NO, DUE TO THE PSYCHOLOGICAL AND RELIGIOUS SIGNIFICANCE OF THE DEAD WALKING AMONG US, THE TANK DOESN'T WORK ANYMORE
It's due to psychological and religious significance of the dead walking among us
>You wouldn't even need tanks. Heavy construction equipment could probably kill thousands of them
This. We'd just outsource the killing to Chinese sweatshops like we do everything else. They'd kill them all without even trying.
In theory, 95-99% of the population dies from the virus. So the only people who survive are naturally immune but are still prone to zombification if bitten or scratch/cut.
It’s literally shown in dawn of the dead in the first few scenes.
every time someone is killed by zombies in a zombie movie theyre torn to shreds and wouldnt be able to reanimate.
so how do all the zombies in a horde come about?
am i supposed to believe every single zombie was bitten once, managed to escape, hide, die, reanimate, leave their hiding place as a moronic walking corpse and then join a zombie horde?
doesnt make sense
only if the biting causes them to be infected. TWD is based on an airborne spore, and everyone is infected and becomes a zombie after any kind of death unless you damage the brain.
i think that situation would be easily contained.
World War Z
russoid bots don't @ me get some reading comprehension
Yea World War Z probably has the best global depiction of an ongoing zombie apocalypse.
Kinda mad we didnt get a sequel despite the asinine solution.
thats not even an apocalypse lol
one city got nuked and the nearby town lost power
and then it ended on a fricking cliffhanger and i dont feel like reading the comics
>one city
it was like 20 major cities
So are there any movies like OP described? I don’t give a frick if it’s realistic
I can't think of any movie that DOESN'T show the start of the outbreak.
it doesn't allow you to push political agendas as well as a post-apocalyptic story
Fear the Walking Dead was such a fricking wasted potential
fear the walking deads first season does this, it starts off with mass confusion about a sickness and when police start killing zombies people thought they were gunning down unarmed people so Black person riots erupt everywhere causing more deaths and walkers are thrown into the middle of them very quickly people realise whats going on but the military start executing people and bombing cities which just creates more zombies
I Am Legend
Zombies are an incredibly inefficient disease vector and a collapse would require unbelievable moronation on the part of the authorities
>collapse would require unbelievable moronation on the part of the authorities
So any given day?
Makes me wonder how badly they would frick up if they detected a meteor on a collision course like Armageddon or Deep Impact, the mission would probably fail because the diversity hire on the crew accidentally left the airlock open or some shit.
Don't Look Up.
Ho would zombies cause an apocalypse? Rabies exist, spreads by bites and makes people hyper aggressive and it never caused an apocalypse. It’s the same thing as fast zombies
Rabies doesn't make people hyper aggressive. It makes you completely unable to function pretty soon after the first symptoms start. You're mostly super scared and confused, but by then you can probably barely move.
There's a very small window between when someone begins showing symptoms of rabies and their death, which kind of limits their ability to transmit the virus.
Rabies doesn't cause psychotic aggression in anything close to 100% of cases either.
Basically every human being on earth got a COVID variant in less than a year so if you imagine that making a certain % of them zombies its not hard to imagine how quickly society would collapse. Almost everything in society is compartmentalized and specialized so skills and manufacturing ability would be gone almost overnight.
Consider the following
Black Summer
Dawn of the Dead
The Division game franchise
they're low budget, world war z is mid but at least it showed the start of the outbreak
28 Days Later just can't be topped bros. Instead of typical dying and reanimation, they just go the crazy ass Ebola/rabies hybrid virus route (the comics explain that it was a scientist at Cambridge fricking around with viruses and made the "Rage" virus by combining two very deadly ones, something that is already practiced irl [see scientists creating a covid variant with 90% mortality for some fricking reason]). Great action and gritty realism from being shot on a camcorder and comfy scenes (shop and car scenes). I can't find another zombie movie comfier than this bros.
Eh some have come close. Are you looking for fast zombies or just an overall presentation?
>Train to Busan
>World War Z
>Dawn of Dead remake
>nested parentheses
anon this post is a fricking mess, in future refactor before hitting the post button
Agreed, that theme. Honestly I wish they just kept remaking it or doing reboots, they could’ve released one every ye
Because modern militaries and gun owners would absolutely destroy any zombie population so it's glossed over because unironically collapsing as a result of zombies is less believable than simply zombies being
why can't we get that movie either
I mean that was the original zombie movie, Night of the Living Dead ended with the cops coming in and killing the zombies
>own gun
>get sick, puke your guts out, and die
so much for that plan
Who is going to give you the fuel and transport it to you lol. chain of command would be down in a week tops, you'd have nonstop warlordism
>how do we contain an outbreak
>moronic anon acts like the entire world will just fall apart at the sight of the first zombie and containment will never be possible
have a nice day. Your assessment of what would happen is laughable.
we already know from covid its not theoretical, it would spread and governments wouldn't be able to enforce lockdowns.
>people react the same to different stimuli
As said please have a nice day you are too stupid to live.
you have no evidence to rely on whereas anyone can combine covid and BLM riots as framework for a deadlier zombie situation and see how incompetent the government is. you would see mass defections in the military and the nurses wouldn't go to work if all the hospital patients were trying to eat them. red mid states would hunker down and ride it out and not rally their tanks to go save los angeles lmao enjoy your 13 million latino zombies or whatever LA has. can't even keep people from shitting on the streets let alone eating each other.
No one has any evidence to rely upon. Covid is a cold, of course people weren't taking a cold seriously. It is in no way comparable or justifiably used as a proxy for a hypothetical zombie disease. You're an idiot, stop typing, hastily have a nice day.
modern zombie movies are almost always based around the flu, which is basically just a beefy cold
no its not you stupid gay outbreak is about people getting infected one at a time society breaking down, he passes out drunk and wakes up to almost everyone already dead and its a post apocalyptic survival movie. him falling asleep and waking up like that is a spoof on zombie movie characters going into a coma while the world burns.
>outbreak is about people getting infected one at a time
thats literally shaun of the dead
did you get dropped in your head as a baby? you seem deeply moronic
>post apocalyptic
how the frick is post apocalyptic when they deal with the outbreak in 24 hours?? You are a fricking Black person
it was a fast apocalypse its a fricking comedy you brainlet
no survivors dying one at a time isn't the same as the whole society being killed one at a time, its different stories. you could do an entire outbreak tv show and only see one zombie in the season finale compared to survival shows where zombies are everywhere. the dawn of the dead mall movie intro where she flees her house is outbreak the shit months later when they are shooting zombies on the roof is survival.
>t.
Okay well when the flu makes someone rise from the dead and eat people I'll start taking it seriously like everyone else and humanity will be fine
yeah like you take fractional reserve banking seriously even though it will kill billions by instigating nuclear war you're a real guardian of the earth everyone has it all under control you're right the government is competent and morally sound they would save us from literal eat the rich mobs
its coming in two more weeks
What does a town in Alberta, Canada have to do with fake vaccines?
Literally SHAUN OF THE DEAD you fricking homosexual
outbreak is only like 10 mins of the movie and he sleeps through it to wake up to apocalypse
they deal with the outbreak in a day.
yes with like 90% of the human population turning into zombies in the process
because some brainless morons taking out the entire civilized world is moronic. literally every nation would just missile wherever the outbreak was and end it
Black summer shows it, the first couple episodes are good but it's hard to like it beyond that because everyone in it is rediculously stupid and you'll want them all to die the more you watch
That's actually why I enjoyed the first season of Fear The Walking Dead because it showed the build up and breakdown on a neighborhood level at least.
iirc fear of the walking dead showed how it happened but that’s a tv series
Barely. The first few episodes are things falling apart, then it quickly turns into regular zombie stuff.
The stand and the strain are the closest I've seen to showing that whole "things are going to go to shit" kind of vibe
Mid-downfall is slower and more boring than most want to see when done right.
Watch The Rover.
There are plenty of movies, are you seriously this new op? How old are you.
Name some
One of the reasons I absolutely hate The Last of Us. Extremely interesting beginning, was very much invested and BAM - 15 years later.
And as a game they could've done it but just didn't bother.
I watched this a decade ago but wouldn't this be representative of the early days of the apocalypse? Yeah I know it's not a zombie virus but you get what I mean, if you combine this with snippets from other zombie movies you could piece together the early days of a zombie apocalypse. I especially like this RE1 scene
This is so unbelievably stupid that I don't think I've ever read a worse post. You literally don't deserve to be refuted, it is shown in almost every piece of zombie media
I Am Legend had a kino evacuation scene
Because there's no conceivable way for a zombie takeover when they are depicted as slow and stupid, so people just ignore it and skip right to the fun part
what about world war z? That was pretty much the entire movie showing the collapse
>Because there's no conceivable way for a zombie takeover when they are depicted as slow and stupid, so people just ignore it and skip right to the fun part
Not if 99.9% of people on the planet are infected from the beginning. That would bring about a societal collapse by default simply by virtue of people being spread too thin to operate most military equipment such as tanks and helicopters efficiently. It's just that patient zero stuff that's rather unbelievable.
Last Train to Busan? Though it stays mostly enclosed after boarding the train.
Any soap film or series about asteroids hitting Earth fills the bill.
Zombies wont lasy long enough to spread, the "zombies" from 28 days later could though, and it would be cool to see a POV movie as the chaos starts just like cloverfield
Based Magpie ridding the world of arachnids.
I somehow managed to screw up replying
to your post... I didn't know I was this moronic.
I keep getting dumber...
Meant for
Can't Cassowaries disembowel you?
They can but that's not a cassowary.
It sure looks like one. What is it then? Ostriches are generally bigger no?
Emu
Oh yea I forgot they are a thing too.
>While attacks on humans are rare and fatalities even less common, these are quite sizable birds, fully capable of eviscerating even large animals with their big, three-toed, clawed feet
even that goofy looking fricker can kill you.
>even that goofy looking fricker can kill you
Anything and everything can kill you, moron. Even the most harmless squishiest looking motherfricker on the planet can kill you.
I bet a squirrel can't kill me before I killed it.
Turns out you have an allergy to squirrel saliva.
Shit
You might kill the squirrel, but you might get some horrible bites that get infected and make you lose a hand or something.
Hanta virus says hello
That's the guy who got his DNA scrambled by radiation, nice try
That's so gruesome. Just fricking observing someone who's DNA got put through a radioactive blender treatment.
I dunno, sometimes when a squirrel’s in my yard staring at me, and chattering I think this nutty homie might try to kill me
>Emu
They are their own kind of threat.
They can but that's a mad lad.
covid already proved that the infrastructure to deal with human frailties only functions when at any given day only a minority requires assistance. over congestion of emergencies quickly max out a hospital's ability to care for victims. professional burn out happens within months if medical staff are also susceptible. it took lockdowns just stem the spread. no one was happy. some completely disregarded the "reality" or the narrative being told to them, because gov doesnt really hold transparency in high regard. took roughly 2 years to 'settle'.
the 2020 riots proved given the abundant over politicization of "causes" that the gov will let cities burn, destruction run rampant, murderers go free, for a rather extended period of time before 'peace,' and law are re established if it serves an agenda. can you crush a riot? yes. does it happen often in the west? no. after all the people need to believe they have a voice.
people acted stupid during the pandemic.
people acted stupid during the riots.
both overlapped but the height of effect for each happened separately.
extrapolate each's greatest surge and then stack them on top of each other. up the R0 of the infection. dial public hysteria to 11. set human death = false. here's your apocalypse.
>both maps are just a population density heat map
Shocking. Regardless, people gave the WWZ novel shit for it's "Quislings" being unfounded and rogue warlord states cropping up in the US after the government abandons people, but after COVID I'm 99% sure it would fricking happen.
it's def obvious when mapped. happening all at once with infectious among both rioters and law enforcement. people collapsing, arriving at triage, being misdiagnosed, rising up, attacking, first gun shot will cause panic, then both armed rioters and armed police will start firing all over the place. more dead, more confusion.
the anons earlier are right. from a production stand point it's expensive to shoot.
we've got anime and comic and vidya recs but has anyone read any book that's a compelling demonstration of day 1 zombie hell? (ignoring the brooks stuff).
>but has anyone read any book that's a compelling demonstration of day 1 zombie hell
I was working on one, but floundered with it. Ended up working on a different project and got too busy after deciding to go back to school so sidelined it too.
did the same thing. i was writting a book about the zephyr train line that runs through the southwest, narrative started in plano IL. i got distracted and then train to busan came out years later and i pretty much scrapped my story, too.
Funny how that works. My zombie story was centered around Louisiana and it was spread by bird mites. Then RE7 came out so I sidelined it for a post soft-apocalypse story that takes place in Utah. If something like that comes out before I finish my second degree I think I'm never gonna write again.
im just some anon but dont stop writting. so easy to get discouraged or distracted. but it's so easy now to find an audience (whether you're super successful is aother story). keep it up. even if you serialize it on some patreon or something, i dont know. but dont stop!
>book that's a compelling demonstration of day 1 zombie hell?
ALL DEAD The Complete 12 Books of the DEAD Series by Brown, TW
tbf. that's the reason zombies work so much better in the US - in Europe there was literally none of that
Didn't France have some yellow jacket riots?
They certainly had nice truck problems
one of the memory holed stories of the 2020 riots was the hispanic response in Chicago. they were basically attacking any black person who ventured into their neighborhoods on sight. shooting at cars with black people. even in Philly, blacks there were kicking out white "allies" who were only there to burn things down.
the second vigilantism began to rise the riots were quickly shut down. people will only tolerate lawlessness for so long. vigilantism is a natural response to lawlessness.
>white "allies" who were only there to burn things down.
i keep hearing this moronic meme line repeated with absolutely no basis. it's "black wall street" levels of cope
I was watching it live and it is absolutely true. I'm not saying blacks were looting but the people causing the most destruction were rich white kids larping as revolutionaries and white trash released convicts. even with the Rittenhouse shit, black people where going for that five figure discount, not burning down car lots.
if those rich white kids weren't there, the police would have done there job.
>source: my ass
>no bro they were only breaking into buildings and stealing shit that's ok
in lawless society you would be murdered
i have never seen as much open carrying of firearms by the citizenry as i did during the riots.
vigilantism in response to lawlessness is a good point. people going around shooting looters maybe means people would go around shooting the "dead" but anyone looking sick in general would be shot too.
It’s cheaper.
i remember when i cared about apocalyptic shit. lol. good thing its fricking played out for anyone that is a bit cool. problem is: nobody can come up with something better, inspiring: drama and actions in a future that is thriving, inspiring, complex, awesome.
because there wouldnt be a collapse, thus it can only happen offscreen
Zombies are stupid. My novel/screenplay is all about left wing terrorists and government tyranny
Maybe Ben Shapiro will buy your script
Rabid if you count that as a zombie movie
Train To Busan though we never know how patient Zero got infected. Seoul Station is much the same.
SyFy's Day Of The Dead series is more or less an informal prequel to the movie.
Lot of small-scale infestation movies start from the initial outbreak.
>though we never know how patient Zero got infected
Did you not watch the movie? There's a whole sequence involving a leaking biolab.
Huh. Must've missed that somehow. All I remember is the sick girl getting on the train, nothing about how she got infected. To be fair, I watch so much stuff I forget shit from movies I watched last week.
>zombie movie
>main characters come across a safe house/area
>request to be let in
>one guy from the group inside the safe zone refuses because the outsiders might be infected and he doesn’t want to take unnecessary risks
>despite this being a completely reasonable and understandable thing to do 99% of the time he’s le bad and he’s infected himself or is planning to betray the group or gets horribly killed 5 minutes later
Why?
Most zombie movies/shows are merely soap operas with zombies as the catalyst.
Gotta move the plot along somehow. And besides, If I knew I was infected and the rest would probably hatchet my ass the death the second they knew I'd keep it a secret.
Deep state propaganda to drive home the message that anything less than letting in all comers no matter the danger or cost to you is le evil so people won't be pissed about all these migrants showing up wanting free shit
Why couldn't they have just made World War Z into a mini-series and faithfully tell all the stories?
I'm will forever seethe and cope that we will never get this, fellow wwz enjoyer.
Or maybe if TLoU is a hit some exec will go for it. You see? Coping.
The prologue of TLoU should show it. The most interesting part is the aftermath though. The zombies are just a plot device, the real story is what the different groups of humans are doing to each other.
Not really, the best part is the confusion when it first starts, not understanding why they can't be stopped, the living trying to escape to some sort of safety so they can come up with a plan. Once they know what they're dealing with and can relatively easily contain the zombies and combat them, it's not always as interesting. And then they usually have to make it about other humans fricking things up, whether it be an insider who is upset or an outside group of raiders
There is still a threat from cordyceps. The longer the infected live, the more they evolve into clickers, stalkers and bloaters.
>the most interesting part is the derivative soap opera story that's been done a thousand times before
That's literally Night and Dawn of the Dead. You know, the most famous zombie movies ever?
Because as soon as you actually try to consider how a non-threat like zombies actually manage to destroy the world, the entire thing falls apart.
Walking dead literally has a scene from the apocalypse showing the military napalming zombies in the street and the only thing that did was beg the question of how tf a zombie outbreak survived even a day
>how do pandemics exist
You’re fricking moronic.
every modern pandemic spreads through air
Yeah, airborne AIDS.
lmao, oh no! the aids zombies are spreading through anal sex
If you want to make a movie where all the homosexuals get zombied because it spreads through buttfricking and they won't stop going to bathhouses, I'll gladly buy a ticket.
I guess there’s no point in bringing up the most deadly pandemic ever, smallpox. You seem to be content with your goalposts on the moon.
If you want to make a movie about zombieism where you can contract zombieism from touching something that a zombie touched several days ago, go for it. I won't watch it, I want to watch the AIDS movie, but someone might watch it.
Most zombie shit I know of has the zombie plague being spread by slow moving Black folk who have to bite you. That shit is not scary, I can jog. If I could have defeated smallpox by jogging, I wouldn't be scared of it either.
For the anons looking for a "realistic" depiction of a zombie apocalypse, my fav is from the first book in this trilogy by a Spanish author.
It's from the limited perspective of a guy holed up in his home for unrelated reasons watching it unfold on the tv and online over a few weeks, but it really captures the feel of it all going to shit. The "trick" is that the virus has a long incubation phase during which it's still extremely contagious so that's how it gets to spread widely enough to overwhelm humans with the first waves of undead.
The first book is pretty kino, and the other two get pretty schlocky but in an enjoyable way. Also the proteagonist gets a barely legal gf so I'm sure anons will like it.
I just checked and it has an English translation so go legally acquire it. Cheers.
The M17 looked so cool, modern gas masks are so soulless in comparison
Because it's moronic. Maybe in the US where all houses are made out of wood and have no walls, but for an example, if ou live in a concrete house with concrete walls and barbed wire (very common where I live), how the frick will the zombies invade it?
Also, World War Z showed it.
You build houses out of the materials you have available. You'd build them out of wood too if your ancestors hadn't chopped the trees down.
>Hey look, this guy just invented forts!
>Wow, I can’t believe nobody has ever had that idea before! This will revolutionize warfare!
>concrete house with concrete walls and barbed wire (very common where I live),
Brazil?
They don't have to invade it. They just have to make most normal societal stuff impossible, like making/getting food, water, electricity and those impenetrable houses just become tombs when you die of thirst and hunger. And even if you had plenty of supplies, most of these have raiders who destroy your walls to take your shit
>concrete house with concrete walls and barbed wire
Hue?
>heh stupid americans living in comfortable wooden homes instead of concrete barbed wired nightmares blocks
>once the zombie apocalypse i’ll show them
>lure zeds to football stadiums
>lock them in
>fish in a barrel for roof mounted m249s
>resupply as needed with heli support
>frick it, gun runs with AC130s turning everything into mulch
>rinse and repeat until the local zed population is reduced to manageable size
>sweep and clear block by block
>set up barricades and checkpoint as you expand
>fail to notice one active torso laying in a mud puddle
>support personnel infected
>infantry cut off
>everybody dies
Oh yeah, I didn't take into consideration the moronation of the average grunt.
Even a smart person can miss a mud colored mass of flesh in a ditch. But it takes a moron to think otherwise.
I mean is there much left after getting turned into compost with 25mm autocannon @1,800rpm?
What kind of fricking zombies are we talking about where one can infect an entire rear line before anybody knows what's happening
WWZ seems to be the common theme. One bite can send the person into a rage that spreads. Believe it or not, no military has any answer to it’s own troops randomly attacking each other.
Soldiers are trained for discipline, they're not going to shit their pants and run because another soldier starts freaking out. They're gonna shoot that zombie Black person and then get back to shooting other zombies. Motherfrickers deal with IEDs in the desert that can blow their arms and legs off, a zombie isn't scarier than that.
>Soldiers are trained for discipline, they're not going to shit their pants and run because another soldier starts freaking out
You've never actually read war memoirs, have you?
Most soldiers in most wars keep their shit together and do their jobs, otherwise wars wouldn't happen, they'd just be big masses of cowardly dudes running away. If soldiers are tough enough to stay disciplined in wars against other intelligent humans, they're tough enough to stay at least that disciplined in wars against a bunch of stupid fricking zombies.
I'd much rather holding ranks with other heavily armed and armored soldiers facing dumbshits trying to bite me than getting shot and gassed by other humans.
Or planting explosives everywhere and in everything possible.
This homie gets it. Everyone has all these great answers for why zombies can deal with whichever kind of bullets. How does a zombie deal with c4? Even if you don't hit the right part of the zombie's brain, what does it matter when his arms and legs are blown off and he's now an undying torso rolling around on the ground?
go up to it, put a bag on it's head, carry them to a big hole and torch it.
The difference is that those other humans are just as scared and tired as you and will eventually stop. Zombies won't.
If you're brave enough to hold against other humans shooting at you, bombing and gassing you, you will think some unarmed meatsuits trying to bite you are a fricking joke.
>Most soldiers in most wars keep their shit together and do their jobs
And yet there are plenty who don't keep it together and flip their shit. Even in the old "good wars" you hear stories of soldiers fricking losing it and having to be killed by their compatriots to get them to shut the frick up which absolutely devastates their peers and lowers combat effectiveness.
The difference here is that this outbreak is completely unknown and is happening worldwide. Suddenly their family, friends, everything is in peril, no one knows what's going on, and it's getting worse. Many of the regular joes are just 18-20 year olds, what's keeping them from saying 'frick it, I'm out. I'm going to protect my loved ones'? Not like they're getting a paycheck anymore or there's anything to do with it.
>The difference here is that this outbreak is completely unknown and is happening worldwide.
In a world with smartphones and twitter it takes about a half an hour before everyone knows that zombies are real and what to do about them.
Oh yeah, zombies can't do much to communications.
i dont know about you but i would probably initially think its a some dumb internet bullshit or advertising campaign. who is going to believe there are actually zombies and its not some sort of stunt?
They're talking about the book moron
Dead Space zombies would be very OP irl
You don't need to shoot them. Bombs, artillery and rockets would do the job easily.
You can clearly see the pressure waves from the thermobaric rockets going off. Each of those pressure waves would demolish any zombies in the blast radius.
If you want overkill you could just go full Operation Linebacker and napalm entire grid squares.
>gun runs with AC130s
Ya don't normally do gun runs with AC-130s, especially against a target that is not threat against the aircraft, e.g. zombies in a stadium. You just orbit and blow the crap out of everything.
They do something like this in the later stages of book-WWZ. The military had to make a system to manage their supply expenditure vs zombies killed ratio, so certain weapons were shelved. They decided machine guns used too much ammo for not enough dead Z, and instead issued something more like competition rifles with incendiary ammo. The troops went back to line formations and would slowly plink off zeds in the distance trying to make each flaming bullet a headshot which would torch their brain.
its way easier
Dawn of The Dead shows that stuff in the beginning.
Shaun of the Dead is non-apocalyptic and shows the start of the breakout until containment.
Triffids > Zombies
Mainly because they can reproduce, zombies are a constantly diminishing threat after the beginning.
>BRAAAAAAIIIIIIN-ACK!
What series has the best zombie outbreak? The ones from Return of the Living Dead are almost impossible to kill without spreading it and are intelligent. The fungus and rage zombies are interesting since they're more plausible.
I liked the WWZ book outbreak.
blood quantums first 20 minutes were pretty good, but again they then jump months into it
Talking about zombies/infected, we talking about 28DL steroid rage running zombies or Romero slow shuffling husks of humanity?
>the zombies are okay, the hundreds of thousands of tungsten shards didn't hit a very specific part of their brain
https://zombie.fandom.com/wiki/Battle_of_Yonkers#What_went_wrong
WWZ is the most reddit cringe in existence written by a noguns moron
>goes into excruciating detail about rounds that causes /k/ to cream their shorts
>durr it wouldn't go down like that because I say so it's reddit
Seethe
Yonkers is moronic and indicative of an author who cared more about dunking on the Bush regime than researching military tactics. The US highway system was designed specifically to facilitate the evacuation of cities and military mobilization in case of a nuclear war with the soviets. The idea that logistics and running out of ammo would be the failure point of the army is just patently ridiculous. Even if we grant the idea that the brass will actually order the troops to do stupid shit like dig trenches for defilade and position everybody on ground level against a zombie horde, there wouldn't be a scene of the guns clicking dry and apache pilots cutting zombies up with the helicopter blades. One of these threads even had an idea of the firepower collapsing Yonkers bridge and inadvertently sending the zombies downstream to their flank. Then you can have the house infected breaking out, the mass rout, etc
I'd actually like to know hos many rounds can manufacturers pump out in ~day if the government and the world in general said "hey, we need everything you got, we got a zombie apocalypse kicking off."
Even if production stopped there are still billions of rounds stockpiled. The reason wars use up ammo is because millions of bullets are fired at enemies in cover, it's arty and airstrikes that kill people.
>The US highway system was designed specifically to facilitate the evacuation of cities and military mobilization in case of a nuclear war with the soviets
And yet it takes you two hours+ to get out of any metropolitan city center on a good day, let alone when fricking everyone else is trying. You ever drive into a city at the start of a three day weekend and just watch all the morons trying to leave in stop and go traffic a half an hour outside of the city?
Of course you're brave enough to hold against other humans shooting at you. They'll eventually slow or stop. They need ammo, they need food, they need sleep, etc. Firefights go through phases of intensity and breaks occur. Masses of zombies don't. They don't stop for anything. They just keep coming.
You don't have military engineering vehicles to shove the traffic jam out of the way. This is a pitched battle for the media we're talking about, there's obviously been enough cleared that fricking news vans are showing up to the line.
Yeah, everything works smoothly, always. The military is never a clusterfrick.
And when you inevitably get tired?
I don't see what that has to do with the fact that the roads to yonkers are clear enough that the media is showing up to cover the battle.
>I don't see what that has to do with the fact that the roads to yonkers are clear enough that the media is showing up to cover the battle
Just because the roads are clear at the start, doesn't mean they will be at the end. Spoiler alert: They weren't.
walk homie lmao
>runs an M1 Abrams through the zombie line
>vulcan cannons the Christ out of them from helicopter strafing
>tactical nukes areas of high zombie concentration
I'm saying there might not be a need for a lot of ground warfare. Even if there was, these are undisciplined, mindless bags of meat that literally have to be in melee range and bite you while you're wearing flak jackets and firing automatic weapons. I am literally not afraid. I was laughing in Afghanistan, I would be overjoyed facing zombies.
>gets cough
>dies
>Even if there was, these are undisciplined, mindless bags of meat
They are more disciplined than you could ever hope to be. They don't feel fear. They don't get tired. They don't become disheartened. They don't worry about themselves, their peers, their families or anything. They have only one desire and that is to eat you and they won't stop until they either succeed or die.
That's always been the dumb part. Their bodies would certainly shut down pretty quickly and these stories need supernatural fantasy reasons why they can essentially keep moving forever even as a skeleton. At least in 28 Days Later they start dying after a while
>I can totally survive because I'm disciplined and zombies aren't
>gets proven wrong
>okay yeah but that's why zombies are dumb as a premise
lol, lmao even. The fact of the matter is, any moron that claims that in these fictional apocalyptic scenarios they would be the ones to survive and it would be easy is full of shit and will likely be among the first to go down.
Not getting to bite anyone fast without legs
>zombie virus happens
>mosquitos get pozzed
game over
Why did Peninsula suck so hard when Train to Busan was great?
Oh boy another thread where OP is zoomer trash who's opinions are founded on viewing marvel flicks and nothing else on his phone. Watch literally any number of movies made in the last 60 years. moron.
that's why I loved the first two episodes and the last episode of the first season of black summer