Why is .30 cal so popular with rifle cartridges (.308, .300 WM etc.) but not common at all with pistol cartridges?

Why is .30 cal so popular with rifle cartridges (.308, .300 WM etc.) but not common at all with pistol cartridges?

The closest thing we have is .32 but that caliber hasn't seen any love for decades and its most popular representative, .32 ACP, is in a coma and about to flatline because it's gotten so brutally eclipsed by subcompact .380s.

Also, .30 supperfaggy (not a .30 cal either) and 7.5 brapno are already gay and dead before they even left infancy.

I find it impossible to believe that no one ever tried reviving the .30 Luger with modern pressures and powders. A modern .30 Luger would shit on 9mm balistically.

  1. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I honestly don't know anon. I think that's just how it turned out. Which is a shame because the 32 is the perfect size and recoil for small guns.

  2. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I really want a CC solution for .300 WM.

  3. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    7.62 Tokarev and 7.5 FK

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Both of which are failures.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        moron

  4. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I’m kinda surprised that girl had enough arm strength to hold that phone up.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      who wants a strong woman? Heterosexual men want to dominate their women not get pegged, fag.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I need strong women so I can have strong babies
        she needs to respect me because I'm strong and smart, not because I can beat her up

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Even a noodle armed Melvin would be able to physically and sexually dominate a woman bodybuilder. You must be some extra weak little pussyboy. I’ll fuck your twink ass if you want little bro, hit my line

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >noodle armed Melvin.
          Ahh, a G.S. fan, I see,

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Never heard of it

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I was thinking a based Parker & Son's patron.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              lmao I remember those commercials from when I was living in phx
              what a weird fucking place

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I eat pieces of shit like you for breakfast. Also im not your bro, buddy.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I’m not your buddy, guy

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >he eats shit for breakfast

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Ah, I see the man-larpers are awake and shitposting today.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      who wants a strong woman? Heterosexual men want to dominate their women not get pegged, fag.

      I need strong women so I can have strong babies
      she needs to respect me because I'm strong and smart, not because I can beat her up

      Please tell me that she has a hairy pussy

      [...]

      That's a man.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Oh thank god.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        https://i.imgur.com/8lD8tQS.jpg

        Why is .30 cal so popular with rifle cartridges (.308, .300 WM etc.) but not common at all with pistol cartridges?

        The closest thing we have is .32 but that caliber hasn't seen any love for decades and its most popular representative, .32 ACP, is in a coma and about to flatline because it's gotten so brutally eclipsed by subcompact .380s.

        Also, .30 supperfaggy (not a .30 cal either) and 7.5 brapno are already gay and dead before they even left infancy.

        I find it impossible to believe that no one ever tried reviving the .30 Luger with modern pressures and powders. A modern .30 Luger would shit on 9mm balistically.

        Sauce

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          puppiwii

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >I’m kinda surprised that girl had enough arm strength to hold that phone up.

      It's the lopsided boobs that give her that power...

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >lopsided boobs
        When you lift your arm up the tit follows.
        That's how it is.
        >t. I'm a dude, but I have c-cup tits because legit multi-year hormonal imbalance.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >I have c-cup tits because legit multi-year hormonal imbalance.
          Average PrepHolechud

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Average PrepHolechud
            Yeah yeah. I'd get em cut off, but insurance won't cover it and it's like $25k or something. Welcome to America.
            Can't pass it off as being a fat-ass either, I'm 5' 10, weigh 175, and have a fucking six pack, so on the rare occasion you catch me without a hoodie I basically just look like a regular dude with huge tits.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Bob? I didn't see you at the crying meeting last weekend. Did you find something better?

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Ironically I haven't seen that movie in years, I should really watch that again.
                Also, anyone know where I can find a local underground MMA club that also secretly wants to demolish corporate America?

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Anon you need to post pictures of your tits.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                [...]

                Do blue board rules count for man tits?
                I can probably grab one of my GF's bras but she'll have a fucking conniption if I stretch the band out, and I really don't need that.
                Not gonna lie, they're pretty nice tits, if they weren't attached to me I'd like them a whole lot more.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Tits or gtfo

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You asked for it. This might be the most cursed picture I've ever taken.
                Believe it or not I'm not great at taking pictures of my own tits, and I ain't got time to take a million pictures and filter out the background so an underboob is the best you're gonna get.
                My GF is giving me the long face now by the way, I guess that's to be expected when I suddenly say "Hey I'm using one of your bras to take pictures of my tits for a bunch of dudes on the PrepHole weapons board."
                I picked the pink one, hope you fucking appreciate it.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                AWOOGA AWOOGA

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous
              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Is this common in ranges that rent out guns?

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Common enough that some ranges make you bring a friend if you're renting a gun.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                He didn't even hit the paper on that second shot.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                NGL, the first year was rough, came close once or twice.
                Pulled through though, and I personally believe it's made me a stronger person mentally.
                By some goddamn miracle I have no other associated symptoms (E.D., low sperm count, low muscle density/strength, sparse facial hair, etc.), so I've just been rolling around like picrelated.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >rolling around like picrelated.
                Except with tits instead of with your dick out.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                NGL, the first year was rough, came close once or twice.
                Pulled through though, and I personally believe it's made me a stronger person mentally.
                By some goddamn miracle I have no other associated symptoms (E.D., low sperm count, low muscle density/strength, sparse facial hair, etc.), so I've just been rolling around like picrelated.

                forgot picrelated lol

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Wtf is the story here?

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                he got vaxxed

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                How often does this happen on ranges? It must be the worst aspect of being an RSO

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Seek God

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                God's the one that gave me tits in the first place!
                Seek his ass out yourself, and ask what I did to be subjected to the torment of not being able to walk down stairs too quickly.

                ARE YOU THE GUY THAT POSTED YOUR MAN TITS IN A SPORTS BRA ON PrepHole

                LOL no, must be another man with tits?
                I do use them though, they smash everything down and make it easier to hide.

                At least she didn't caught you trying it on.

                If she had caught me wearing one of her bras without asking first she wouldn't be upset that I'm doing some odd shit, she'd be flaming pissed that I might stretch out the band in the back and ruin it.
                She sees my tits every day anon, there's nothing for me to hide from her.
                She was super confused that a bunch of dudes on a gun board wanted to see some guy's tits though.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                What do they look like out of a bra...? fat guy tits..?

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Actually, no, surprisingly - they look like normal tits.
                In that regard I think I actually sort of lucked out, strange as it might sound. I was never really overweight at all, so I think that played a large part in that.

                Another thing is that when they first started coming in, I freaked the fuck out and tried to hide them with shit like sports wraps and tape, until the point where they were too big for me to make that work, then I switched to really tight sports bras, these things called breast binders which are fucking horrible, and "compression tops" which are sort of a middle ground between the two.
                Because of that, they never really had the chance to droop at all.
                I mentioned it before, they're actually really nice, I just wish they weren't attached to me.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                pic?

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                ARE YOU THE GUY THAT POSTED YOUR MAN TITS IN A SPORTS BRA ON PrepHole

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                At least she didn't caught you trying it on.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Muahajaj thanks anon

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Fucking lel

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                robot bodies can't come soon enough, being a meat suit is so fucking weird

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The technological singularity would fix a lot of shit for a lot of people.

                Personally though I don't even need things to go that far, I just wish my "top notch" health insurance would cover the shit that is actually wrong with my body.
                I've been in the room when my doctor has called them up to argue, their stance is that it would be a case of "treating the symptoms and not the root cause of the issue". It's fucking infuriating.
                I've considered trying to broach it from a "mental health" perspective, but if I do, I'm extremely concerned that I'll get ERPO/Red Flagged instantly.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The technological singularity would fix a lot of shit for a lot of people.

                Personally though I don't even need things to go that far, I just wish my "top notch" health insurance would cover the shit that is actually wrong with my body.
                I've been in the room when my doctor has called them up to argue, their stance is that it would be a case of "treating the symptoms and not the root cause of the issue". It's fucking infuriating.
                I've considered trying to broach it from a "mental health" perspective, but if I do, I'm extremely concerned that I'll get ERPO/Red Flagged instantly.

                enjoy killing yourselves and having an uncanny program rolling around simulating your stupid brain

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Take human brain.
                >Inject dormant nanites, each an exact, direct, perfect replacement for a human brain cell.
                >Each time a human brain cell dies, due to drugs, alchohol, age, or oxygen deprivation during sleep (apnea, etc.), a nanite comes online and replaces it.
                >Eventually complete replacement will occur.
                >New brain now capable of integrating new connective technologies.
                At what point do you die, after what percentage of brain cell replacement?
                At what point do you stop being human?

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                you died when you put the nanites in

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                LOL sure maybe if you're a slack-jawed bible thumper from Alabama.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You retard, you don't need surgery. You need to have every day be some form of chest day to get massive pectorals to spread out that shit. Not even kidding, 6 months to a year depending on how dedicated you are.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Man you think I didn't try that?
                We're not talking about a little bit of excess flabby chest here - google image search "c-cup breasts example" and tell me you seriously think targeted chest exercise is going to make that go away.

                https://i.imgur.com/Ih3CID5.jpg

                >I have c-cup tits
                Pics?

                I wouldn't hold your breath for anything else. I wear clothes like a fuckin' onion, doubly so because it's winter, so taking selfies is kind of a time and effort intensive process, and I'm lazy and can't be bothered.

                /k/, a fagical place

                >PrepHole - weapons and Big Tiddy Hairy Uncles
                Someone make a screencap.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >I wouldn't hold your breath for anything else.
                Yeah, I didn't see earlier image.

                What caused the hormonal imbalance?

                So are the nipples/areolas normal, for a man?

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >What caused the hormonal imbalance?
                No idea. Doctor is under the impression it is just an especially harsh case of gynecomastia, as to what caused that, who can say.
                Because I don't have a loss of testosterone related features (beard, sperm count, etc) he seems to think it might be a periodic spike in testosterone causing elevated estrogen levels as a side effect, similar to what someone who takes steroids would experience, but I've never used any performance enhancing drugs before, so it's just a mystery.
                My hormone levels are relatively normal now, but it's not like breasts just go away.

                >nips and surrounding area
                A bit larger than normal probably. About the size of a quarter?

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You clearly didn't try fucking hard enough then. I'm not talking about some stretches and some chest flies. I'm talking about bodybuilding competition levels of work. Seriously, look at some female bodybuilders that started out with C/D cups, they don't even look like they have tits anymore.

                Have friends that were hard on the juice during their time in group, and ended up doing boring low impact jobs after leaving and stopped working out hard. They've ended up with tits, one bigger than yours but not as big as Bob. Some just shrugged and deal with it like you, a couple used either surgery or pharma to varying degrees of success, but a couple went hard on working out again and solved it that way. Regardless, you can bitch out and just keep playing with your tits if all you've got is excuses. I said my piece.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                /k/, a fagical place

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                BOOBA

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                only "female-presenting" nipples are NSFW

                >Average PrepHolechud
                Yeah yeah. I'd get em cut off, but insurance won't cover it and it's like $25k or something. Welcome to America.
                Can't pass it off as being a fat-ass either, I'm 5' 10, weigh 175, and have a fucking six pack, so on the rare occasion you catch me without a hoodie I basically just look like a regular dude with huge tits.

                >it's like $25k or something. Welcome to America.
                in Canada they'd just browbeat you into killing yourself, so count your blessings

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >in Canada they'd just browbeat you into killing yourself, so count your blessings
                People might think it's a joke, but MAD is quickly becoming the goto solution for literally everything here.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Anon you need to post pictures of your tits.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >I have c-cup tits
          Pics?

  5. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Please tell me that she has a hairy pussy

  6. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What about .30 super carry?

  7. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    My Blackhawk is in
    .30 carbine.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Why am I just discovering this is a thing now? You’re telling me I can carry my M1 Carbine and a revolver and they’ll share the same ammo?
      >honey get my wallet

  8. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Well with handguns you can't typically get much velocity, so projectiles tend to be wider and heavier to make up their velocity deficit. Compare the wounds left by typical FMJ handgun rounds and ~9mm projectiles do a serviceable job while ~7.62 projectiles tend to leave worse wounds unless forced to go significantly faster like in the case of 7.5 FK and 7.62 tok. However this significantly reduces barrel life, increases muzzle blast, recoil, and all around makes the gun harder to use. As for why a lot of rifles went with 30 cal, I honestly can't tell you, especially since we knew early on in the development of smokeless rounds that a small projectile going fast makes a better wound than a slow and fat projectile. Ultimately it just comes down to speed, it's why BP rifles typically have such large bores compared to smokeless designs

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Again, this is fuddlore. .30 Luger kicks no harder than 9mm Luger and could easily outperform the latter with modern pressures and powders.

  9. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    what the fuck wasnt there just a thread with this exact op

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yes. Welcome to hell.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah its happening over on 4chan too. Same threads are just being reposted and slid over and over

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah its happening over on 4chan too. Same threads are just being reposted and slid over and over

        I've posted this on 4chan multiple times, but this entire website is one big information war/psy-op shitfest between Anons, government agents, and NGO activists like Shareblue and unironically the JIDF. PrepHole has been a nexus of internet culture for about 15 years, but in the lead up to 2016 it got noticed. 4chan is what tipped the balance for Trump. crossposters from PrepHole and 4chan called in fucking airstrikes on US-backed rebels in Syria multiple times. FBI anon turned out to be the real fucking deal. Seth Rich and the Awans/Schultz involved with Pakistani ISI? The HWNDU shit with Shia, all of it proved the power of a decentralized group of autists as an intel agency.

        All of that has made pretty much anyone with an agenda nervous, because a bunch of retards on the internet have de-railed so much shit. Look at the whole Gamergate debacle. Why was the fucking department of defense funding Woke groups? Look at how much good information and infographs have come out of this site and cripplechan. There are deranged schizo ravings here, and retard tier conspiracies, but there are also some really smart, connected people that first started using the site in '04-09 that are now in their thirties almost forties. 4chan and PrepHole in general, has proven almost completely impervious to traditional COINTEL techniques, so the solution is just to drown us in retards, normies, shills, bots, slide threads, bait posts, etc. to bring the signal to noise level down so far that nothing of any value can be discussed.

        Anons with generally good ideas for how to make things happen for the better, or just old school PrepHole pranks get bombarded with "kys glowmoron", "Ok fed", or "Take your meds schizo" and that has absolutely killed the soul of the entire site. I hate it that I don't have my comfy retards to talk to anymore after I get home from work, open the door, get on the floor, but there's nobody left walking the dinosaur.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          You know what's sad and funny about all that? NEET retards that came together doing something for free and better at it than world super powers with trillions of dollars at it's disposal lel.

          We'll probably get that all again one day but from another website currently on the shitlist of a lot of government morons and journo scum not from here. What this place will probably produce is another Bianca Devins situation or some young lad killing himself from discord trannie blackmail.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I don't think its really possible to capture the soul of old internet again. Looking forward, the whole 4th gen information war shit with chat bots and AI, tracking ads and targeted social media is going to steer 95% of internet discourse towards what ~~*they*~~ desire. Whether the ~~*they*~~ of that is corporate interests, garden gnomes, chinese propaganda, western globohomo, etc. It will be almost impossible for a site to grow without being forced to bend the knee. Look at Bitchute, once they hit critical mass the payment processors started threatening, MSM hit pieces started flooding out, and Bitchute is steadily caving in. Odyssee is probably next on the chopping block.

            There are chan alternatives, but the moment one of them becomes problematic, actual feds falseflag the hell out of it as has been proven in court documents showing the feds getting yous in threads from cripplechan.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >4chan is what tipped the balance for Trump.
          People like to believe so, but it wasn't

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          The only successful glowop was convincing people that everyone is a fed, which is highly effective in ceasing action.

  10. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    What do Big British Cockrel have to do with this?

  11. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >The closest thing we have is .32
    Which is logical, because rifle bullets and pistol bullets have different requirements, different weight and different twist rate. Might as well make them in a slightly different bore to prevent mixups - or rather, they've evolved from different designs in the black powder era.

    >.30 Super
    Basically a .32. Not completely dead yet, still has a chance to become alive with the industry catching up (but probably not)
    >7.5 FK
    Will probably survive, being a wildcat with a niche purpose and following that can be made from 10mm brass. At least most of the cartridge can be made from existing components.
    >.30 Luger with modern components
    So, 7.62 Tokarev?

    As for why no .32? You can either make it straight walled and wimpy (which is wimpy), straight walled and strong (which does not fit in magazines, only revolver cylinders) or necked down. Necked down pistol cartridges are pretty niche, only really succesful on has been .357 SIG and that's .40 down to 9mm. You aren't losing too much mass there, but with 9mm down to .30 for example, you'd lose too much mass to be attractive to the general public, no matter the velocity increase.
    Go try it for yourself, design a .30/.32 cal handgun cartridge in GRT, come back with the results. You just can't really make them...good.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >9mm down to .30 for example, you'd lose too much mass to be attractive to the general public
      So you are telling me the reason is pure fuddlore and misinformation?
      Most common 9mm loads are 115-124gr. .30 could easily handle the same grain weights. (see .30 Carbine)

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >.30 Luger (7.65x21)

      Is not 7.62x25 Tokarev, based on 7.63 Mauser

  12. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What I don’t understand is why women are so desperate for attention when men are so desperate to give it. It’s like women simply cannot get enough attention no matter how much they get. Hell, they’re so desperate for attention that they get jealous when other women get attention.

    All that to say,
    >Built for desperate attention seeking behavior.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >It’s like women simply cannot get enough attention no matter how much they get.

      Correct

  13. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    .30 cal won 2 world wars

  14. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Why is .30 cal so popular with rifle cartridges (.308, .300 WM etc.) but not common at all with pistol cartridges?
    Because .30-06 is for gays who don't understand that size and power doesn't matter.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Because .30-06 is for gays who don't understand that size and power doesn't matter.
      ???

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Small PP detected.

  15. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Pistols have short barrels. Powder needs space to burn. The wider the bore the more space for powder to burn. The pressure generated also creates more power the larger the rear of the bullet it is being applied to.
    Of course the wider the ammo the less fit in a magazine and larger the barrel and slide.
    9mm has become the minimum compromise for most use. Hitting a sweet spot of capacity and energy.

    In a rifle the long barrel allows smaller and smaller diameters to be used because the barrel length allows more space to burn and longer for a given pressure to apply force to the bullet.

  16. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Why is .30 cal so popular with rifle cartridges (.308, .300 WM etc.)
    Because early firearm bores were cut with measuring tools based on the old British unit "Line" And .30 Caliber rifles were originally called "3 Line Rifles" and it spread globally do to the influence of British and later American arms and equipment trade
    >but not common at all with pistol cartridges?
    Pretty sure 9mm is .35 inches so most pistols indeed are in the .30 Caliber range. The original Luger actually was a true .30 cal but the German Army demanded a slightly fatter bore size

  17. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    This post made me realize I have too many 30 cal rifles.
    Picrelated. Haven't fired the 300WM at all yet, local range closed down for good, now I'm like two hours from anywhere with more than 50 yards between you and the berm.
    Shit sucks. I need to make friends with farmers or something.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >left: you
      >right: the guy she tells you not to worry about

  18. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Who's this piggie

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Ya mudda

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Can't you fucking read anon:

      puppiwii

  19. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Because for rifles smaller bore = higher velocities behind a lighter bullet
    In a pistol you’re not maximizing range or penetration, you want a heavier bullet that dumps as much of it’s carried energy as possible into a target at shorter range so having a small light fast bullet that penetrates super duper well isn’t preferred. .30 cal and smaller rounds are usually not great self defense choices because they’re generally too light and small to do what a pistol is supposed to do. Hence, .35 to .45 cal rounds dominate the pistol scene as they’re heavier and are more useful in a pistol sized cartridge. Plus existing machinery, tooling, and consumer market is all already heavily based around .35, .40, and .45.
    Btw I cummed to this picture

  20. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    in the black powder era they had the same diameters. with smokeless powders there was an introduction of "small bore" cartridges. these were met with a lot of scepticism, but the ability to shoot way further overcame that for rifles. with handguns range is limited more by the ability to aim than the trajectory of the bullet, so the scepticism prevailed.

  21. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Anon kun, 9mm is 35 cal tho?

  22. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >7.5 brapno are already gay and dead
    Is it dead? So far it's not being used or made by any other company, but is that because of propriety or because no other company sees value in it? FK BRNO seems to be doing well seeing as they're releasing a new PSD model. I'd argue that it's one of the most exciting rounds of recent times. A relatively controllable pistol cartridge that can reliably reach out to 100+m is crazy.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >relatively controllable pistol cartridge that can reliably reach out to 100+m is crazy.
      You know what else can reach out to 100m+ easily? Rifle rounds. Far a third of the price.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        But then you have to carry a rifle. The whole point is that it's a pistol cartridge with a flat trajectory that can be used to hit targets at 100m+. I'm not arguing that it's going to replace rifles or become a popular self defense round, just that its capability is impressive and it may find a niche.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I think the PSD weighs more than my AR-15 anon

  23. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Anyone in the west coast US know where to find .32 S&W short not long? Can't find anyone in Nevada, California, or Utah that has it in stock. Only long.

  24. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    pistol bullets are not particularly high velocity
    so maybe .30 cal bullet does not weigh enough

  25. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    7.5FK is a smart idea with retarded execution. Not fitting in any current production firearm and charging $2-7k per gun isn't going to get it picked up. The other nail in the coffin is using .308 diameter bullets when .312 already has huge support in handgun cartridges. I'm assuming this is also to make sure you can only buy their overpriced ammo instead of handloading or giving ammo manufacturers an easy way to sell their own.

    Shorten it; eating the slight performance loss so it can fit in 10mm guns, then make it .312 diameter so you can load .32 ACP bullets. You may not even have to sacrifice case length if you could get rid of the absolute meme bullet design and use traditionally shaped JHPs instead. Just use the same construction as Critical Duty to mitigate overexpansion.

    Retards were sitting on a gold mine when they could have loaded a 60gr .32 JHP at 2500 FPS. I'd pay good money for a CC gun that mimics 10" M855 ballistics.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Shorten it; eating the slight performance loss so it can fit in 10mm guns, then make it .312 diameter so you can load .32 ACP bullets
      This would be a slightly faster 9x25mm Dillon.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        25% higher pressure and up to 30% lighter bullets would make it massively faster.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Realistically that's just 7.62 Tokarev, but developed with modern powders and material.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            and +P+

  26. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >The closest thing we have is .32 but that caliber hasn't seen any love for decades and its most popular representative
    7.62 BRNO, 7.62 tokarev.
    the former is very nearly rifle performance from a pistol, the latter has a good chance at killing a motherfucker in kevlar.
    >I find it impossible to believe that no one ever tried reviving the .30 Luger with modern pressures and powders. A modern .30 Luger would shit on 9mm balistically.
    so go take a gunsmithing class and rechamber a glock or something in your fantasy round.
    or you could just shoot a 357 sig and realize why nobody uses that shit

  27. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I have come to this thread to shitpost about the ultimate shitpost caliber: 22tcm

  28. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    that's right kiddos, you can get rifle level steel penetration from a handgun, and all it takes is having barely any firearms to pick from, and the ammo is expensive.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/uVk9nWs.jpg

      I have come to this thread to shitpost about the ultimate shitpost caliber: 22tcm

      >we have 5.7 FN at home

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I think it's hilarious that fmj 5.7 has less armor penetrating than hollow point 22tcm. the germans threw massive amounts of money at developing their pdw round, and some dudes in a garage went "what if we done took a 22lr bullet in one o' them 556 cartridges and stuck it in a 9mm?" And made a pistol round that does better... if we don't count magazine capacity and how no one wants to use 22tcm.

  29. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    now everyone go out and support 22tcm so someone will make a carbine chambered in it, that isn't an AR.

  30. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    .30 caliber became the standard for military cartridges at the time smokeless powder was invented. Before smokeless powder velocities were a lot less, so to get enough energy downrange for a clean kill the types of bullets used in antique firearms were larger, .40 or .45 typically.

  31. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Anon are you fucking retarded? 9mm is a 30cal round.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      ???

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