Mini-14. Hollywood loves putting Mini-14s into whatever futuristic shells they can because Minis apparently don't give a fuck about how dirty/fucked up the blanks are, they just keep firing/cycling without a hitch. Movie armorers call them the Jamless Wonder because of it.
Chances are, if a movie features some funky future rifle that you can't see the action of, it's probably a Mini-14 inside.
A fully enclosed getup would be a worthwhile compromise for guys like Umbrella Security. It's like the one group of masked henchmen that gets a pass. Considering the shit they have to actually deal with, it's shocking they arent more buttoned up than just a bike helmet.
That's Resident Evil
There's a single bullpup in Equilibrium and it's shown for like 2 seconds, utterly irrelevant
The two Equilibrium iconic weapons were the G36 used by goons and the modified Beretta 92 / 87 hybrid that doesn't actually exist used by clerics.
The same reason why everybody wears motorcycle helmets instead of actual combat gear. Hollywood 'creative' types know nothing about anything, and go with whatever they see is scariest or the most sci-fi looking. The problem is that a generation of these useless eaters was raised on a media diet generated by equally oxygen-wasting dipshits. That's why nothing is original, everything is stupid, and why absolutely anything made anymore is by committee to 'make line go up' instead of telling an actual story.
Problem is "actual combat gear" (a) does not look futuristic and (b) in fact mostly looks gay as fuck.
The bike helmet is just a stand-in for a futuristic combat helmet that works by alien science magic or some shit.
its also that the motorbike helmet with some bits glued to it costs 1/4 of what a decent combat helmet does, and when you're kitting out 25 mooks for the scene, that's a dent in your budget.
also, you can order them in bulk for delivery yesterday, which is typical hollywood "we need this instantly" schedules.
>Hollywood 'creative' types know nothing about anything
sure they do. they know they can fire the armorer of the walking dead after season 1, and still get people to watch 10 seasons, 2 spin offs, a movie and a game. why would they literally waste their money?
uh, no, thats exactly my point. even shit for "gun nuts" like john wick get this shit wrong, because they dont have to get it right. its a waste of money to waste time on the details. it doesnt get them tickets.
Because it looks retarded and unpleasant for the most part, which is par for the course for most modern "futuristic" settings.
God forbid a gun just look like a fucking gun.
Noooo, it needs to look like some airshit crackhead toy, with lights n shit, oh, or maybe just make it into a giant fishdildo looking monstrosity like pic rel.
You wanna see how retarded the people designing "future guns" can be?
Look up the "P4 Stalker" then ask yourself, "Who the fuck thought it was important to glue an MP3 player to the side of a CZ EVO 3?".
Every stupid motherfucker designing futuristic gear nowadays should be shot at least once, just so they'll all likely be dead and I can stop witnessing the ugly garbage they pump out.
could you expect anything less from the man who brought you space bulldozers?
i'm convinced at this point the actual visionary there in the early days was Ben Lesnick, and the more he got pushed to the side the less competent the entire project became.
God Star Citizen has some of the most retarded sci fi designs ever
Ships and Guns alike
The funny thing is that SC isn't even that bad by sci-fi standards, a lot of the guns have stupid details but at least CIG understands how a gun physically works, which is better than most sci-fi designers can say.
Yeah, it's 90% aesthetic issues, fundamentally the firearms in game are fine for the most part, but visually a lot of them feel like they're just overdesigned.
Just imagine something like the FS-9 if you chopped off all the stuff above the barrel, got rid of the bit of the foregrip that runs along the mag, and gave it a coat of OD green and grey.
the S-38 is just a nice looking pistol with some extra relief cuts. first thing i do every new patch is buy one and a P4 so i can listen to my tunes when popping pirates on an 890J
when the game’s unfucked a bit i want to take one as my only weapon into SoO
Man its a shame the game is such a cluster fuck it had such promise but Chris can't help but stick his dick in it every other patch. I still haven't forgiven him over the ares BS
The magazine is a battery. The projectiles the gun fires come from an internal tungsten block. Each shot shaves off a tiny sliver of the block, which is then propelled to relativistic speeds with magnetism.
Because M4s and AKs are too recognizable and need to be greeebled up to pass as a sci-fi gun. Meanwhile a stock white tavor looks pretty sci-fi to the uninitiated moviegoer. Same reason you see G36s used by "futuristic" armies, if you gave them M4s they'd look like they're from the present. This is also why motorcycle helmets are a cheap and easy pick since again an ECH or modern helmet is too in the present to look futuristic, not after decades of sci fi promised HUDs and enclosed helmets for fighting anywhere and everywhere. You need to remember, all fiction is derived from previous fiction be it explicitly or implicitly. Also makes life a lot easier on the prop department if they don't need to hack up a sterling to get a possible prop
Lasguns are normally used by normie foot sloggers. But even without recoil a rifle needs a stock to brace its weight and stabilize it for the sake of ergonlmics. You're right at least in that they don't necessarily NEED one mechanically. Theres variants for cqb with no stock and stuff like the Hellgun which drops the stock and magazines for a backpack feed and focusing mechanism that just let's it spew ass as fast and as hot is possible.
>it's not for superhumans, it's for fucking peasants and mobiks
My bad, I thought that was a space marine weapon.
Lasguns are normally used by normie foot sloggers. But even without recoil a rifle needs a stock to brace its weight and stabilize it for the sake of ergonlmics. You're right at least in that they don't necessarily NEED one mechanically. Theres variants for cqb with no stock and stuff like the Hellgun which drops the stock and magazines for a backpack feed and focusing mechanism that just let's it spew ass as fast and as hot is possible.
>silly ammo counter
Ammo counters are going to be standard eventually. The G36 mag design proves that being able to see how much ammo you have is a desirable trait with more than niche merit.
I incorrectly assumed it was a space marine weapon. An additional point of contact would make sense for a human to hold it but it's kinda pointless for mechanical power armor which wouldn't need an extra point of contact to steady anything. It's a bit like having that laser sight on the handgun in the Terminator. Why the fuck does a Terminator need a sight when he's already got electronic vision? This kinda shit happens when directors choose things which look cool rather than really thinking about what makes the most sense.
>Why the fuck does a Terminator need a sight when he's already got electronic vision?
Marine guns interface with their armour systems so it's probably some kind of targeter mechanism.
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He means "The Terminator" as in "the 1984 Arnie film".
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Well I mean because it looks cool as fuck and Arnie hipfires it most of the time anyway.
Fon fact, those prong looking things coming out if the machines plasma guns are lasers that burn a path to the atmosphere so the plasma stream can pass through easily.
>It's a bit like having that laser sight on the handgun in the Terminator. Why the fuck does a Terminator need a sight when he's already got electronic vision?
Why would you assume the Terminator has perfect aim? it can probably align its hands to a point of aim consistently but there's nothing to imply it knows exactly where its shooting, in fact the first movie shows it kinda sucks at aiming, it takes forever to aim the 1911 with the laser, and it picks three other guns that allow it to not aim as much to compensate(the AR-18, the SPAS-12 and the UZI). Maybe its fleshy exterior didn't give it the most secure grip, maybe it lacked enough sensitory capacity to truly feel the gun like a human would, maybe it just had slow as hell software, but it relied a lot on spray and pray instead of super precise snap shots, and brute force.
Now Terminator 2 is another matter, both terminators are very quick on top of strong, the T-800 snatching the shotgun, landing precise knee caps and avoiding killing any cop all say that terminator was way more skilled than the one in the first movie.
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Remember in T-1 the shootout in the police station they show the terminators pov at one point when he's using that ar18 thing, it shoots through a wall at a fleeing cop ?
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Holy shit, it's so futuristic it doesn't have sights
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Why does it need a stock if it doesn't generate recoil and it's being wielded by superhumans?
>silly ammo counter added for dramatic effect
Ridiculously stupid sci-fi guns that talk and make funny noises and have various gizmos are so much fun doe. If you're gonna make them unbelievable, at least have some fun with them.
>some say he's just a goon for a dictatorship and his trigger finger can crush cinder blocks >all we know is he's not the stig, he's the Stig's YA novel adaptation
Well, they were the future. We got derailed off that timeline and the future got cancelled in favour of equity and tolerance. We had a choice between "future" and "stupid" and we chose stupid.
sadly they don't offer it separately for some reason. Maybe one of these days i'll ask if someone wouldn't mind donating a serial number to see if i can get a 'replacement' one
Yeah you can but it just means you hate fun. If you're complaining about weapon realism in a setting that features demons, sentient fungus, Literally Judge Dredd and spaceships with ramming prows you might be autistic.
It's such a shame that Primaris are already losing the little bit of webbing the models had before, I liked them solely on the basis that they put more tacticool looking SM models out there. You can't hate those guns though, pure 90's overbuilt shoulder mounted fuckgun vibes.
I wish more Sci/Fi alternate history stuff would do this. Cawadutty Black Ops shoulda had stuff like shortened Garands with fuckhuge laser tubes on them instead of 1980s guns in Vietnam with weed leaf holosights ffs. The real secret agent/SOG skunk works items are never the snowflake 1-off prototypes but bitchin cutting edge electronics on proven platforms like the M3 carbine w/NV scope. MGSV as well. It's supposed to be the cold war dammit, I want a Grease Gun that shoots airburst ammo, I don't give a fuck about having post GWOT optics in 1978.
I wish more Sci/Fi alternate history stuff would do this. Cawadutty Black Ops shoulda had stuff like shortened Garands with fuckhuge laser tubes on them instead of 1980s guns in Vietnam with weed leaf holosights ffs. The real secret agent/SOG skunk works items are never the snowflake 1-off prototypes but bitchin cutting edge electronics on proven platforms like the M3 carbine w/NV scope. MGSV as well. It's supposed to be the cold war dammit, I want a Grease Gun that shoots airburst ammo, I don't give a fuck about having post GWOT optics in 1978.
Elysium's guns felt more "realistic" because it had the cool sci-fi ~railgun~ that makes cool sci-fi noises but an AK-47 with some futuristic-looking movie augmentations attached to it is just an extrapolation of actual trends like an M2 Browning with modern optics. The original M2 entered service in the 1930s, nearly a century ago coming up.
It's because from a technological endgame perspective, bullpups are have the highest potential. If you can give them an electronic trigger and make them eject their casings somewhere that isn't next to your face, you've eliminated the two main factors precluding their widespread adoption.
Because they look very different from traditional firearms but are still easily recognizable as guns.
The flat, boxy-looking design helps too. It's basically the opposite of the steampunk aesthetic, where things are made to look old fashioned by having lots of visible details and showing all the internal components. You'll notice that futuristic-looking cars are also based around very simple shapes.
To add to the second point, bullpups look more futuristic than normal guns for the same reason that the car on the bottom looks more futuristic than the car on the top
>more compact more energy efficient
It's a proxy for futuristic exotic rail guns, lasers ect. and removing the stock takes away a ubiquitous design feature in General Audience minds.
Is this the new /bpg/? Last one died fast because no-one was arguing about conventional v. bullpups this time.
Thoughts on picrel? Also, is there any love for the RDB? I hear arfcom boomers say it's better than the Tavor.
>no-one was arguing about conventional v. bullpups this time.
That's my fault sorry, I've dismantled every anti bullpup argument. I'll go easy on them next time for the sake of the general.
they look cool and are unique enough for Hollywood whose idea of modern is whatever the military/police are currently using.
Because bullpups are the dumbest a rifle design could get before it stops functioning completely— Is your image from Hunger Games or Equilibrium?
Is that a fucking garand/M1A in there?
Mini-14. Hollywood loves putting Mini-14s into whatever futuristic shells they can because Minis apparently don't give a fuck about how dirty/fucked up the blanks are, they just keep firing/cycling without a hitch. Movie armorers call them the Jamless Wonder because of it.
Chances are, if a movie features some funky future rifle that you can't see the action of, it's probably a Mini-14 inside.
that and theres no buffer tube
That can be said of the vast majority of guns.
true but, the price that and the other upsides anon mentioned put it in a good spot for prop usage
Probably the ideal gun for zpmbie apocalypse
>light
>common light ammo
>long barrel
>semi auto
Second most ideal.
>uses mags that nobody else has
>you're paying 3 times as much for them
thats the only thing that makes me sad about having a mini 14 is the mags.
Tell me why i shouldnt buy this stock for my mini 14. I want a retro futurism rifle to play around with.
Do they suck? They are only 100 dollars
Mini14
I think the OP is hunger games, but the only one I've seen had the baddie troops using white P90's iirc.
I know the motorbike helmets are a choice made by the costume depts from a budget perspective but god they are a shit choice nonetheless.
HG peacekeepers also use F2000s
All they use is X95s, F2000s and P90s
the henchdudes in equilibrium used G36's
>generic henchmen
>monochrome uniform
>motorcycle visor
Every single time
A fully enclosed getup would be a worthwhile compromise for guys like Umbrella Security. It's like the one group of masked henchmen that gets a pass. Considering the shit they have to actually deal with, it's shocking they arent more buttoned up than just a bike helmet.
bump
costume design gets expensive. trenchcoats and bike helmets was probably really economical.
dont bad mouth equilibrium
That's Resident Evil
There's a single bullpup in Equilibrium and it's shown for like 2 seconds, utterly irrelevant
The two Equilibrium iconic weapons were the G36 used by goons and the modified Beretta 92 / 87 hybrid that doesn't actually exist used by clerics.
They're supposed to be kinda generic and soulless in Equilibrium because the whole plot is that everyone takes a pill to remove their emotions.
Their boots remind me of those Prada ones.
I'd guess because most people only know AR and AK rifles, so bullpups look advanced or something to them
The same reason why everybody wears motorcycle helmets instead of actual combat gear. Hollywood 'creative' types know nothing about anything, and go with whatever they see is scariest or the most sci-fi looking. The problem is that a generation of these useless eaters was raised on a media diet generated by equally oxygen-wasting dipshits. That's why nothing is original, everything is stupid, and why absolutely anything made anymore is by committee to 'make line go up' instead of telling an actual story.
Problem is "actual combat gear" (a) does not look futuristic and (b) in fact mostly looks gay as fuck.
The bike helmet is just a stand-in for a futuristic combat helmet that works by alien science magic or some shit.
its also that the motorbike helmet with some bits glued to it costs 1/4 of what a decent combat helmet does, and when you're kitting out 25 mooks for the scene, that's a dent in your budget.
also, you can order them in bulk for delivery yesterday, which is typical hollywood "we need this instantly" schedules.
>Hollywood 'creative' types know nothing about anything
sure they do. they know they can fire the armorer of the walking dead after season 1, and still get people to watch 10 seasons, 2 spin offs, a movie and a game. why would they literally waste their money?
If you think people were watching WD for the accuracy of their weaponry...you might be retarded.
uh, no, thats exactly my point. even shit for "gun nuts" like john wick get this shit wrong, because they dont have to get it right. its a waste of money to waste time on the details. it doesnt get them tickets.
Good post. Thank you
Because they are gay. Since modern day culture is pretty much state sanctioned gayry, the "futuristic" movies of old got it right
Because they are the future of firearms of course.
Because it looks retarded and unpleasant for the most part, which is par for the course for most modern "futuristic" settings.
God forbid a gun just look like a fucking gun.
Noooo, it needs to look like some airshit crackhead toy, with lights n shit, oh, or maybe just make it into a giant fishdildo looking monstrosity like pic rel.
You wanna see how retarded the people designing "future guns" can be?
Look up the "P4 Stalker" then ask yourself, "Who the fuck thought it was important to glue an MP3 player to the side of a CZ EVO 3?".
Every stupid motherfucker designing futuristic gear nowadays should be shot at least once, just so they'll all likely be dead and I can stop witnessing the ugly garbage they pump out.
You will be eviscerated, tk47
God Star Citizen has some of the most retarded sci fi designs ever
Ships and Guns alike
could you expect anything less from the man who brought you space bulldozers?
i'm convinced at this point the actual visionary there in the early days was Ben Lesnick, and the more he got pushed to the side the less competent the entire project became.
The funny thing is that SC isn't even that bad by sci-fi standards, a lot of the guns have stupid details but at least CIG understands how a gun physically works, which is better than most sci-fi designers can say.
Yeah, it's 90% aesthetic issues, fundamentally the firearms in game are fine for the most part, but visually a lot of them feel like they're just overdesigned.
Just imagine something like the FS-9 if you chopped off all the stuff above the barrel, got rid of the bit of the foregrip that runs along the mag, and gave it a coat of OD green and grey.
...alright i actually like this one. got that "weaponized industrial machinery" vibe
could stand to lose some of the details (like those useless indents on the drum, for example), but overall not terrible.
maybe it's because it's not a bullpup
I really like the pistols in. They all feel extremely workable. Would unironically by a S38 if i could
the S-38 is just a nice looking pistol with some extra relief cuts. first thing i do every new patch is buy one and a P4 so i can listen to my tunes when popping pirates on an 890J
when the game’s unfucked a bit i want to take one as my only weapon into SoO
>no Coda chads. ngmi
Man its a shame the game is such a cluster fuck it had such promise but Chris can't help but stick his dick in it every other patch. I still haven't forgiven him over the ares BS
Meanwhile, at Bungie...
The magazine is a battery. The projectiles the gun fires come from an internal tungsten block. Each shot shaves off a tiny sliver of the block, which is then propelled to relativistic speeds with magnetism.
Isn't that Mass Effect you are thinking of?
Yeah, but ME guns also use disposable heat sinks that implement endothermic chemical reactions to absorb the heat output of the railgun mechanism.
Like the other anon said, it's an energy weapon. The real question you should be asking is why does an energy wep still eject casings.
that's where micro containment field generator is
Bungee is a bunch of lesbians now
Good sci-fi writers are literal prophets.
Because M4s and AKs are too recognizable and need to be greeebled up to pass as a sci-fi gun. Meanwhile a stock white tavor looks pretty sci-fi to the uninitiated moviegoer. Same reason you see G36s used by "futuristic" armies, if you gave them M4s they'd look like they're from the present. This is also why motorcycle helmets are a cheap and easy pick since again an ECH or modern helmet is too in the present to look futuristic, not after decades of sci fi promised HUDs and enclosed helmets for fighting anywhere and everywhere. You need to remember, all fiction is derived from previous fiction be it explicitly or implicitly. Also makes life a lot easier on the prop department if they don't need to hack up a sterling to get a possible prop
What would be the barney of guns?
any keltec bullpup
i have a ks7 12-gauge and can most definitely tell you it is the lamb chop of bullpups, can't speak for their others though
in terms of popularity the steyr aug would probably be elmo from sesame street
Because "the year of the bullpup rifles" is always set in future.
The design is based around the idea that someone cant just walk up to you and press the mag release on your rifle.
What are the good depictions of future guns?
THE M-4-A-1 BECAUSE WE'LL BE USING IT 100 YEARS FROM NOW TOO. PUT THAT ON YOUR 'E-BLOG'.
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>silly ammo counter added for dramatic effect
Holy shit, it's so futuristic it doesn't have sights
Why does it need a stock if it doesn't generate recoil and it's being wielded by superhumans?
it's imperial guard standard issue, it's not for superhumans, it's for fucking peasants and mobiks
>it's not for superhumans, it's for fucking peasants and mobiks
My bad, I thought that was a space marine weapon.
Lasguns are normally used by normie foot sloggers. But even without recoil a rifle needs a stock to brace its weight and stabilize it for the sake of ergonlmics. You're right at least in that they don't necessarily NEED one mechanically. Theres variants for cqb with no stock and stuff like the Hellgun which drops the stock and magazines for a backpack feed and focusing mechanism that just let's it spew ass as fast and as hot is possible.
>silly ammo counter
Ammo counters are going to be standard eventually. The G36 mag design proves that being able to see how much ammo you have is a desirable trait with more than niche merit.
>why does it need a stock
>why does it need an additional point of contact with which to steady aim and balance weight
Have you ever shot a gun before?
Warhammer fags are the new azumanga dioh fans
>new azumanga dioh fans
Eggs, plain.
meds
I incorrectly assumed it was a space marine weapon. An additional point of contact would make sense for a human to hold it but it's kinda pointless for mechanical power armor which wouldn't need an extra point of contact to steady anything. It's a bit like having that laser sight on the handgun in the Terminator. Why the fuck does a Terminator need a sight when he's already got electronic vision? This kinda shit happens when directors choose things which look cool rather than really thinking about what makes the most sense.
>Why the fuck does a Terminator need a sight when he's already got electronic vision?
Marine guns interface with their armour systems so it's probably some kind of targeter mechanism.
He means "The Terminator" as in "the 1984 Arnie film".
Well I mean because it looks cool as fuck and Arnie hipfires it most of the time anyway.
Fon fact, those prong looking things coming out if the machines plasma guns are lasers that burn a path to the atmosphere so the plasma stream can pass through easily.
>when directors choose things which look cool rather than really thinking about what makes the most sense.
Do you not know what 40k is?
>It's a bit like having that laser sight on the handgun in the Terminator. Why the fuck does a Terminator need a sight when he's already got electronic vision?
Why would you assume the Terminator has perfect aim? it can probably align its hands to a point of aim consistently but there's nothing to imply it knows exactly where its shooting, in fact the first movie shows it kinda sucks at aiming, it takes forever to aim the 1911 with the laser, and it picks three other guns that allow it to not aim as much to compensate(the AR-18, the SPAS-12 and the UZI). Maybe its fleshy exterior didn't give it the most secure grip, maybe it lacked enough sensitory capacity to truly feel the gun like a human would, maybe it just had slow as hell software, but it relied a lot on spray and pray instead of super precise snap shots, and brute force.
Now Terminator 2 is another matter, both terminators are very quick on top of strong, the T-800 snatching the shotgun, landing precise knee caps and avoiding killing any cop all say that terminator was way more skilled than the one in the first movie.
Remember in T-1 the shootout in the police station they show the terminators pov at one point when he's using that ar18 thing, it shoots through a wall at a fleeing cop ?
>that ar18 thing
That's an actual Armalite AR-18.
>silly ammo counter added for dramatic effect
Ridiculously stupid sci-fi guns that talk and make funny noises and have various gizmos are so much fun doe. If you're gonna make them unbelievable, at least have some fun with them.
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its amazing just how bad the old dredd movie was compared to the new one
Legit forgot that rob schnider was even in the first one, and he fucking SUCKS
Rob Schneider is.... a mutie from the Cursed Earth!!
Looks like a hi-point
Lasguns are such a shit design and 40k is a gay series
>LE WW1 BUT...UH SPACE! DEATH AND WAR YEAH!
>some say he's just a goon for a dictatorship and his trigger finger can crush cinder blocks
>all we know is he's not the stig, he's the Stig's YA novel adaptation
They look like dollar store stormtroopers
Muh visual language
Holy shit what were they thinking
4/5 of the bayonet is useless for stabbing
Wait isn't that from The Walking Dead? At least they got the sights on the right way this time.
they have rear sights but not the front kek
front sight is folded down
Point is moot since they can't cheek weld with all this shit on.
is this TWD? I stopped watching after the first season with the bat swinging retard, I just stopped caring
yep. I know, blew my mind too.
PrepHole will occasionally put up a thread full of hilarious screenshots from it, YLYL hard mode
holy fuck this is from walking dead what the fuck happened lmao
it's been a shit show ever since season 2 and that fucking farm
>No dedicated sights on the P90
Have fun using the back up sights with those helmets.
in my experience 90% of the hate for bullpups comes from people who have never even shot one, or they're total nogunz gays
90% of the hate for bullpups literally comes from one guy who posts in nearly every thread mentioning them.
because they look exotic, but also not old, therefor sci-fi
it made me smile when I saw them using ARs in Alien Covenant
AR-15's on LV-426 muh fugga
Also GoPros like 200 years into the future
You're gonna freak when I tell you they're still using pump action shotguns and 7.62 in Halo about 600 years into the future
Because they are the future
Well, they were the future. We got derailed off that timeline and the future got cancelled in favour of equity and tolerance. We had a choice between "future" and "stupid" and we chose stupid.
Because they look cool
What's that carrying handle? Do they come with one?
Yes, but if you want the carrying handle to be tan, you have to buy the black version of the rifle.
Tristar arms carry handle off one of their gimmick looking bullpup shotguns
Wow This thing looks like ass but that carry handle goes UNGODLY well with the MDR, it's the strangest thing i've seen in a while
sadly they don't offer it separately for some reason. Maybe one of these days i'll ask if someone wouldn't mind donating a serial number to see if i can get a 'replacement' one
Tho not the one you posted :-/
Because they're shit and filmmakers are cucks who never shot a gun in their entire lives.
Wanna see something REALLY gay
You can't really call out 40K for being retarded, it's supposed to be retarded.
Being intentionally retarded doesn't protect something unless it's a dumb shit comedy, otherwise it's just bad.
Funny you should say that, that's exactly what it is.
>jokes on them i was just pretending to be retarded
no, i can still call it out. intentionality just adds new layers to the retardation.
Yeah you can but it just means you hate fun. If you're complaining about weapon realism in a setting that features demons, sentient fungus, Literally Judge Dredd and spaceships with ramming prows you might be autistic.
It's such a shame that Primaris are already losing the little bit of webbing the models had before, I liked them solely on the basis that they put more tacticool looking SM models out there. You can't hate those guns though, pure 90's overbuilt shoulder mounted fuckgun vibes.
because they are the future
for me it's 20th century weapons with greebles
the Chemrail was a thing of beauty
This movie sucked balls but good god did it have some cool guns and exo shit.
I wish more Sci/Fi alternate history stuff would do this. Cawadutty Black Ops shoulda had stuff like shortened Garands with fuckhuge laser tubes on them instead of 1980s guns in Vietnam with weed leaf holosights ffs. The real secret agent/SOG skunk works items are never the snowflake 1-off prototypes but bitchin cutting edge electronics on proven platforms like the M3 carbine w/NV scope. MGSV as well. It's supposed to be the cold war dammit, I want a Grease Gun that shoots airburst ammo, I don't give a fuck about having post GWOT optics in 1978.
Elysium's guns felt more "realistic" because it had the cool sci-fi ~railgun~ that makes cool sci-fi noises but an AK-47 with some futuristic-looking movie augmentations attached to it is just an extrapolation of actual trends like an M2 Browning with modern optics. The original M2 entered service in the 1930s, nearly a century ago coming up.
WHY CANT BUBBA SPAWN ONE OF THESE.
PEAK G3 PrepHoleINO
God I hate the SUSAT
Ugliest optic when not on an L85, with a terrible reticle
They work though and they're sturdy as frick.
Cant argue with that tbh
Wasn't it also on the psuedo-standard NATO optic mount?
>psuedo-standard
Honestly the rest of NATO should have just told the US to fuck off and do whatever gave them small arms anus tingles.
In the 70s having any sort of optic was a luxury, and being able to smack it off things regularly was more or less fantasy.
So are illegal immigrant workers, but that doesn't mean you can't get benefits by paying a little more.
Space gun go pew bro
It's because from a technological endgame perspective, bullpups are have the highest potential. If you can give them an electronic trigger and make them eject their casings somewhere that isn't next to your face, you've eliminated the two main factors precluding their widespread adoption.
>Electronic trigger
Uhhh how about now.
Bullpup triggers are perfectly fine for combat use. A dumb grunt laying supressing fire doesnt need a 1lb racegun hair trigger on a combat rifle.
Because they look very different from traditional firearms but are still easily recognizable as guns.
The flat, boxy-looking design helps too. It's basically the opposite of the steampunk aesthetic, where things are made to look old fashioned by having lots of visible details and showing all the internal components. You'll notice that futuristic-looking cars are also based around very simple shapes.
To add to the second point, bullpups look more futuristic than normal guns for the same reason that the car on the bottom looks more futuristic than the car on the top
>more compact more energy efficient
It's a proxy for futuristic exotic rail guns, lasers ect. and removing the stock takes away a ubiquitous design feature in General Audience minds.
Because they will probably work in the future
Why do the bad guys always wear motorcycle helmets too? Bro looks like the fucking stig with that get up.
cheap way to make faceless goons in movies.
Is this the new /bpg/? Last one died fast because no-one was arguing about conventional v. bullpups this time.
Thoughts on picrel? Also, is there any love for the RDB? I hear arfcom boomers say it's better than the Tavor.
>no-one was arguing about conventional v. bullpups this time.
That's my fault sorry, I've dismantled every anti bullpup argument. I'll go easy on them next time for the sake of the general.
For the same reason he's holding an ak47.
Why do movies think that motorcycle helmets make soldiers look more futuristic?