Why all the hate?

Why all the hate?

  1. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Some Americans just can't handle the fact that Euros make better guns

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Sig Sewer and Swiss Sig are two different companies

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      As an American all I really buy and carry are sigs.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Sig was a joke for years, but the P320 and MCX are genuinely widely recognized as good. gays need to get over it already.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >what was the Cross gen 1
          >what was the MCX gen 1
          >literally what the fuck was the P320 for the first 2 years
          I'm not even a JOOOOOS type but there is some real shady shit going on with this supposedly former "premium" brand.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            The rule of buying guns is that you let other retards beta test them until they get all the kinks worked out. I'm not saying Sig is right for doing that, but they're far from the only company that does it. If you buy a P320 or MCX in the current year then they're fine. At least Sig is innovating.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              >the gun industry adopting the same practices as the games industry is OK by me!
              >I love products as a service!
              holy shit dude.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                M8, that's literally the ways its always been with everything. Gen 1 model 1 revision 0 is the shit that fills every land fill.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Anon I'm not sure if you're aware of this, but firearms have been around a lot longer than video games. The gun industry has been doing this sort of thing forever. Go read about the problems the M16 originally had when it was issued in Vietnam. Even the M9 originally had some hiccups after it was adopted back in the 80's.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                I've been aware a long time of that.
                I'm not comfortable with people accepting "guns as a service" because the stakes are higher AND you probably won't get your "update" (gen 2) for free

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                No one is accepting it nor is that even applicable to this or anything whatsoever.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                SIG has agreed to update every single gun with recalls for free every time. Free shipping, free upgrade, free parts.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Companys have failures with mechanical devices on first release
                You realize they only can test designs in a limited capacity right? End users will have far more data than in house testing. Which they still do. And they recall their products and fix them. Most manufacturers do. You're insufferable. Probably a nogun and if you do have some. Please turn them on yourself.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >M16 was shit until the late 70s
                >Glock 22/23 blew up until Gen 3
                >M9 couldn't handle +P for a couple years
                >Bren 2 7.62x39 models having their lowers break
                >VP9 seizing up when wet
                >Delta 5 recall
                >CZ 600 recall
                This isn't even a gun/game industry thing. This is how production for *any* product is. The chances of a product having faults at launch are relatively high. People like to fixate on Sig's faults because they're slowly replacing [your favorite gun].

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >m16 was shit until the late 70s
                >glocknade memes
                >M9
                >soiZ
                you do not belong.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Cope and sneed harder.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >>soiZ

                >repeats a reddit meme
                >accuses other of not belonging

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                The M16 was great. The army sacrificing people as a hissy fit made it bad. There were no issues with the commercial guns using the correct ammo.

              • 2 months ago
                Burt

                >glocknade memes
                You think it was a meme? Oof. The design choices that led to kabooms and the changes glok made to prevent this happening from gen 3 on are well documented and explained. What other extremely provable things do you think are fake? The moon landing? Paper mask ineffectiveness? The after-hours 2020 election result """corrections"""?

                Swiss made P226 good
                Amerigarden gnome P320 bad

                Ironically the SP2022 or whatever they’re called are more trustworthy for not being made with Indian parts and are cheaper now

                >made with Indian parts
                Mm yes link pictures and articles proving or even >implying Indian made Sig parts break at a higher rate please? Please do not leave the thread anon please

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                It's sad that the only real example of anything for DD you can pick out is the Delta 5 a bolt action.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              A gun being "Beta tested" on consumers usually goes like "Whoops the mag falls out sometimes, we'll fix that in newer models and replace parts in the old ones" not "Whoops it goes off randomly sometimes, send it in for a free upgrade so we don't have to call it a safety recall please lol"

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Again why is Sig always being singled out here? Retards have been giving themselves Glock leg for years. Don’t blame the gun just because idiots have NDs.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Cross gen 1
            It still amuses me that Sig is so incompetent they managed to fuck up designing a basic bolt action rifle somehow.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >>
      My Sig ar is made in NH

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Pig Pauer hasn't been associated with the original Euro entity for decades. morons and garden gnomes ruined everything.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Then why are most SIG guns made and designed in the USA these days?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Ah yes my favorite European nation, New Hampshire.

  2. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Might grab a p365

  3. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Glockfags can't handle the idea that a company would innovate beyond Gaston's Perfect Gun.

  4. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    garden gnomes or something idk

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Prices are unironically more gnomish than IWI

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        500-600 for the p365xl doesnt seem bad at all wym

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Fifty dollars for a magazine

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Most companies are in the 40 to 50 dollar range unless their magazines have become so ubiquitous and dropped their patents that the price simply must come down due to economics.
            See: AR15 mags, 1911, Glock, etc.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              Two pieces of plastic and a metal spring is not ever worth 40 bucks no matter how your yiddish ass is trying to sell it.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                But it's worth 30 to 35 bucks because it's got the Glock logo on it, you retarded moron rapebaby, right?
                >B-BUT MUH SALES
                Shut the fuck up. What sellers do to make magazines move isn't the same as Glock's MSRP.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                I got over a dozen Glock mags and didn't pay a cent over 19.99 for them, I also have reliable extensions from companies like Factr, etc. that give me 17+5 for less than 70 bucks a mag, what's your excuse now paying 50 dollars for a standard capacity mag?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                The goalpost is waaaay over fuck there. I never said anything about glock mag prices being justified, you fucking spaz. Regardless of manufacturer. Go have an episode somewhere else.

                >B-B-B-BUT I GOT IT ON SALE AND I DIDN'T MENTION GLOCK
                lol
                lmao
                Glockbots seething and unable to accept that they're the new 1911 boomers.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >zoomer seething from recent realization he overpaid with xir neetbucks

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                you lost the argument so you have to call someone a zoomer to get personal satisfaction out of your own loss? Pathetic

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                The goalpost is waaaay over fuck there. I never said anything about glock mag prices being justified, you fucking spaz. Regardless of manufacturer. Go have an episode somewhere else.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Mags 50 a pop
          Meanwhile Glock mags are regularly on sale and regularly 19 bucks magpuls even cheaper
          >Shitty Sig brand nitride slide
          >Cheap ass construction, polymer feels like it is gonna crack just using it
          >Gun is 600 minimum, Sig always out of stock because normies eat that garbage up, MSRP is never what they sell for
          Gee I wonder why it is a shitty deal when I can get a p10c for $450, a Glock MOS optics ready for less than one of these.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Digits confirm

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Hell man, even H&K has better prices and customer service than ExeterSig, it's crazy. Sig was the last big company to lower their prices for the Common Man(tm). FN and CZ are almost the same, and raised their prices respectively. Everyone here used to praise the CZ75 and recommend it for everyone and that's because it felt good in the hands, shot well and was $250 NIB. the cajun works parts kits cost more than the fucking gun and mags and now everything good dies. Hey you can get Beretta RDO 92x's for about $450 right now not on sale though. So whatever.

  5. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Copypasting Glock but worse, with the very souvenir of good old eurosig days in the back.

  6. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I enjoy my Sig garden gnomeer brand SIGGER products.

  7. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    THE SIG SAUER™ P365 IS THE BEST CONCEALED CARRY PISTOL EVER MADE

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      This is what I hear. Any truth to this?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        It goes off when dropped

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          No it doesn't. Not only are you spouting a 6 year old meme, but you're not even talking about the right gun.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Its snappy, but its nice, I recommend the Spectre or XL version for a bit more size

  8. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I ONLY SETTLE FOR THE BEST

    • 2 months ago
      Burt

      Multiple instances of first generation novel firearms with severe issues which have later been cleared up, but not done so under the straightforward overt umbrella of a recall. Very high prices which are not really borne out in production quality (same as HK). And good old fashioned nitwit racism. Stay outside of these three danger areas and Sig is pretty aite. Also thanks for posting this thread again, we almost had a string of 3 days without one WHEW.

      Where's your challenge coins son?

      https://i.imgur.com/DL7raIC.jpg

      >I know it's a Delta Point, hence I said optic going out. 1000 hours vs 17000 hours on an RMR. But I'm sure you would know that if you actually owned handguns with optics.
      Luckily I can afford to replace a battery one per year since I'm not a poorfag.
      >You wouldn't need to replace the frame if it wasn't shitty checkered skateboard grip anyway.
      Better than taking a soldering iron to my gun like glockfags are famous for doing.
      >M17 is the same gun lmao, they literally just changed the connectors out to be more drop safe, they never changed the design of the gun.
      Glock hasn't changed the design of its gun in over 30 years. Nice r-ddit spacing btw

      Deltapoint batteries don't last a year lol they last a month or potentially much less if you have it on often

      Pig Pauer hasn't been associated with the original Euro entity for decades. morons and garden gnomes ruined everything.

      Anon there were German made Sigs coming out of the Eckernforde master shop until 2020 I think, and regular production German Sigs didn't stop until the mid 2010s, 2016 I believe. It hasn't even been 1 decade. I don't know the conclusion of Eckernforde, they may STILL be making the X series and high end guns in small numbers in Germany.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Hey it's this guy, glad you could make it.

        • 2 months ago
          Burt

          Ay what's up fellow MIM enjoyer

          >Cross gen 1
          It still amuses me that Sig is so incompetent they managed to fuck up designing a basic bolt action rifle somehow.

          To be fair, so did Remington with the XMP trigger, T/C with the Compass drop safety and CZ with the 600's exploding lol

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            No sig did a fuck up so that means you are supposed to ignore everyone else's fuckups

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              Everybody rightfully shits on Remington what are you talking about

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                I know but im trying to do sarcasm. Y'know?

  9. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Unethical business practices and gnomish behavior all around. Treats customers like beta testers.

  10. 2 months ago
    Anonymous
    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      nig nogger

  11. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Success breeds jealousy. Glockfags are still seething after five years.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >get bought out by venture capital group
      >everything goes completely to shit
      >you coast on by selling absolute fucking junk and rebranded chinese optics, complete destroying your image as a premium pistol brand
      >"jealousy"
      Even Kimber didn't fuck up this bad.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Mags 50 a pop
        Meanwhile Glock mags are regularly on sale and regularly 19 bucks magpuls even cheaper
        >Shitty Sig brand nitride slide
        >Cheap ass construction, polymer feels like it is gonna crack just using it
        >Gun is 600 minimum, Sig always out of stock because normies eat that garbage up, MSRP is never what they sell for
        Gee I wonder why it is a shitty deal when I can get a p10c for $450, a Glock MOS optics ready for less than one of these.

        Now use your optic for more than 50 hours and actually wear/use your shitty frame and have your gun dropped and it kill you unironically.

        Funny how Sig is so shitty and yet Glock still lost to them.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          The military also adopted the M14 and other dumb shit like ACU, Bradley fighting vehicle, etc etc.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >bradley
            based retard thinking hollywood is real life

            I know it's a Delta Point, hence I said optic going out. 1000 hours vs 17000 hours on an RMR. But I'm sure you would know that if you actually owned handguns with optics.

            You wouldn't need to replace the frame if it wasn't shitty checkered skateboard grip anyway.

            M17 is the same gun lmao, they literally just changed the connectors out to be more drop safe, they never changed the design of the gun.

            1k hours is six weeks dude, how is your life that you can't change out a 25 cent battery (2032) every six weeks?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Why did Glock drop their lawsuit against sig after the competition? Is it any coincidence how not only did sig win the pistol contract, but also the rifle, lmg, and sub gun contracts too? A lot of deals made behind closed doors I'm sure. I'd be one thing if they won one or two, but ALL?!?

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              >it's a conspiracy if the military adopts more than one thing from the same manufacturer
              Wait until you hear about Colt.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                The garden gnomeiest garden gnome garden gnomeery of garden gnomey garden gnomewes that ever garden gnomeedsrdvvy

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Hating on the ACU

            How? Or are you one of those old fucks who calls UCP camo ACU?

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Beretta deserved the contract

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            I like the M9, but I understand why the military wanted to upgrade to a polymer strikershit handgun that even the dumbest grunt can figure out how to use in a couple of minutes.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >rebranded Chinese optics
        Like Vortex, Holosun, Burris, etc?
        You do realize that every optics manufacturer outside of Schmidt and Bender gets their glass from the same distributor in Japan right? And most of the enclosures come from either Japan, the Philippines, Korea, or China?

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          no anon, no. Just stop. It's chinesium. You don't get $100 optics with Japanese glass.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Now use your optic for more than 50 hours and actually wear/use your shitty frame and have your gun dropped and it kill you unironically.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >optic
        That's a Deltapoint Pro
        >frame
        Can be replaced with another $50 OEM frame shipped to my home without the need for an FFL if it ever somehow wears out or gets damaged
        >le drop safe meme
        Was never an issue on the M17, which has a manual safety anyway. Seethe, cope, dilate, etc. etc.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >B-but some cops somewhere said theirs went off after they had a negligent discharge due to poor training- WAIT I MEAN THEY DROPPED IT ON THE FLOOR

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          I know it's a Delta Point, hence I said optic going out. 1000 hours vs 17000 hours on an RMR. But I'm sure you would know that if you actually owned handguns with optics.

          You wouldn't need to replace the frame if it wasn't shitty checkered skateboard grip anyway.

          M17 is the same gun lmao, they literally just changed the connectors out to be more drop safe, they never changed the design of the gun.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >I know it's a Delta Point, hence I said optic going out. 1000 hours vs 17000 hours on an RMR. But I'm sure you would know that if you actually owned handguns with optics.
            Luckily I can afford to replace a battery one per year since I'm not a poorfag.
            >You wouldn't need to replace the frame if it wasn't shitty checkered skateboard grip anyway.
            Better than taking a soldering iron to my gun like glockfags are famous for doing.
            >M17 is the same gun lmao, they literally just changed the connectors out to be more drop safe, they never changed the design of the gun.
            Glock hasn't changed the design of its gun in over 30 years. Nice r-ddit spacing btw

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            RMR
            >replace battery by unscrewing the entire thing, fucking up the zero, having to rezero and potentially stripping the heads of the screws, risking damage to the threads, potentially needing Loctite to seat the optic properly
            DPP
            >replace battery by pushing a button

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Glock is used by by so many countries you can almost spell the alphabet out with them

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        And yet Sig was chosen by the only country that matters.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >pogs use sig sewer while marines and SOCOM use Glocks
          Oh no sigsters

          I like the M9, but I understand why the military wanted to upgrade to a polymer strikershit handgun that even the dumbest grunt can figure out how to use in a couple of minutes.

          Sand could get in the slide

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >marines

            https://www.businessinsider.com/marine-corps-officially-fields-m18-first-new-pistol-35-years-2020-9

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            M9 was unironically the best for clearing debris from the action because of how open it was. That was more useful than a tinier action for reliability in the field.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >SOCOM

            https://sofrep.com/news/socom-taps-the-sig-sauer-mcx-rattler-as-its-personal-defense-weapon-of-choice/

  12. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Wait what's this about gnomish people? I don't understand.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      The new head of SIG yuesey wears a funny hat. All other marketing venues and government contracts spawn from there.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >SIG IS OVERCHARGING AND IS gnomish
        >posts overpriced Swiss piece of shit as the gold standard
        Okay.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          There you go, making up scenarios in your head again. What do you even mean by your rambling diarrhea of a post?
          There is a clear difference between Exeter NUSIG and actual bergjude magic swiss-made steel that will survive your grandkids and still be smooth as buttered glass.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Bergjuden

          Unethical business practices and gnomish behavior all around. Treats customers like beta testers.

          I think the same parent company owns them and Taurus USA

          Wait what's this about gnomish people? I don't understand.

          Cohen

  13. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    New thing bad. Old thing good cuz S0VL

  14. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    S I G G E R

  15. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    SIGGERS COULD BE POSTING HERE

  16. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Glonk bros finally get to be the contrarians.
    P E R F E C T I O N

  17. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Sub par products at above market prices

  18. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    > high bore axis
    > shitty DAK trigger
    > overpriced ARs
    > overpriced Boomer-tier legion speshul editions
    > recalls
    > more recalls

    Gee I wonder why they get so much hate? Instead of designing a brand new striker fired gun from the ground up they just took their shitty P250 and shoved a striker in it.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Instead of designing a brand new striker fired gun from the ground up they just took their shitty P250 and shoved a striker in it.
      Why is that bad again? Wait until you hear about how Glock has been selling literally the exact same gun to their cultists for decades.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Dude, their slogan is "Glock Perfection"...how are they supposed to improve on something that's perfect?? IT'S IMPOSSIBLE

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Glock started out originally as a striker fired gun. They didn’t shoehorn striker fired parts into a giant DAO frame in such a way it wasn’t drop safe and keep revising it until it was literally “good enough”.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      What makes legion not worth it? I've been thinking of getting a p320 legion, and saw one for 1k. Why is that too much? I've rented a p320 specre comp and a g17 at a gun range, but the sig felt more comfortable in my hand. Even when I rented a g43 and p365xl the sig felt better in my hand.

      • 2 months ago
        Burt

        The P320 is a $350 gun they are nominally selling at $550. The Legion version is the same thing with an X Carry shaped grip module, a tungsten weight and a lighter trigger pull weight, but is not comparable to other $1,000 gun triggers. You're paying twice what a regular gun costs and 3 times what it's worth for no good reason imo

        It's basically all off the shelf stuff, shoved into a gun without giving you the ability to pick which parts you want or why, and you're paying full price for everything. You could buy the basic P320, a $300 tungsten grip module, a $99 Gray Guns flat trigger (which idk why you'd want, it's a preferential shape) and a $15 spring kit and have exactly the same thing. Or you could buy any combination of those and spend less money, as the more expensive each of those things listed is, the bigger diminishing returns it provides. At least with the P22X series Legion guns you are getting milling, checkering and features you cannot buy on regular models.

        tl;dr It's lipstick on a pig

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          You can get some classic line legion features on cheaper guns now. The elite line has the undercut done on them, which to me is probably what I like most on those legions.
          I think the Xfive legion had it's time when it just came out, but since they've introduced other heavy grip module models, as well as selling the txg grip separately and offering other cheaper models with slide cuts, they've kind of made the Xfive legion a irrelevant as a prebuilt comp gun. It's not legal in some popular match types, and the ones it is legal in it's no longer competitive. There's are some dudes who tried to make theirs into race guns for open. Pretty funny actually.
          I think in the end, if it could be found for a good price, I think it's still worth a look at. Just not MAP/MSRP.

          • 2 months ago
            Burt

            Yeah the P320 XFive Legion would be appealing if it cost $700 but the only thing it has that the competition doesn't is the tungsten slug in the grip which I can't see making as much of a difference as a comp or even springs/ammo selection.
            >It's not legal in some popular match types, and the ones it is legal in it's no longer competitive. There's are some dudes who tried to make theirs into race guns for open.
            That's a oof lol

            There aren't any other competition oriented strikers around $1,000 are there? I'm thinking of things like the METE and Q5 but they don't cost nearly that much and have better features for the role like more than 1 optic cut and better triggers

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Found a p320 on gunbroker with the xgrip, flat face trigger, and night sights for $600. That seems like the best option after hearing what you have to say, but on the otherhand fuck it I could just wait a week, and save some money for it. I should probably go rent some more handguns, and different versions to see what I like the best. Side note, it's annoying as shit that sig makes the different parts so expensive.

  19. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    *appears in every gun store in America*

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      It's a firearm why wouldn't it?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        I can't think of any other manufacturer that puts fully lit display cases in stores. At least not to the degree that Sig does.

        oh no wahhhh they're marketing wahhhh :~~*~~*( wahhhh

        Not a complaint, just an observation. I legitimately enjoy my M18.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >make fancy displays
          >get them into stores
          >they stand out, which gets them more sales from people
          like it or not there are a lot of people who don't know shit about guns yet still buy them, and presentation goes a long way with attracting that kind of person

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          I doubt there are a lot of those elite dealers that have the full display going on.

          no anon, no. Just stop. It's chinesium. You don't get $100 optics with Japanese glass.

          I'm not that guy, but SIG Japanese made stuff AFAIK are the Romeo 3 line and the normal Tango 6 line (not the T). Most sig Optics are decent. The only one I laughed at when I saw in stores are the buckmaster stuff. Shit looks and feel like toys. I like my Romeo 4T, but some of their chinese stuff seem fine, like the romeo 5 line. I mean, you know your doing something right if there are counterfeit units of your product around

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          my LGS has those exact same display cases for CZ FN and like 5 other companies its normal lol

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      oh no wahhhh they're marketing wahhhh :~~*~~*( wahhhh

  20. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    The same people that shit on them for MIM parts (of which they know nothing about) will buy a Springfield Hellcat or DPMS AR without a second thought. Roughly 5% of the people that shitting on this company are doing so from the high horse of a KAC or HK product.
    The rest are positively frothing at the mouth for confirmation bias because something as expensive as a $1000 AR or $300 police trade-in Glock means a significant amount to them, and becomes part of their identity. They need to know that they made the right choice. You see the same behavior among truck guys. It can never be enough that they enjoy the truck, they need to affirm that the truck is noticeably and verifiably better than the market equivalent from a different company. "My Ram is awesome, AND it's BETTER than the Ford"
    Never mind that SIG is among a very small minority of companies that actually aims to innovate within its market, instead of just stagnate and/or copy others.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      You don't need confirmation bias to tell you something is objectively a cheap sigger piece of shit like the 320.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        The fact you are using sigger unironically is embarrassing. Fucking shoot a gun or at least finger fuck one for christ sakes

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          post guns gay

  21. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Their success is getting to them, simple as that.

    It's the exact same shit that caused Colt to collapse: they get a shitload of military contracts, fuck up on the commercial end, and the moment the military cuts ties they become more crippled that Steven Hawking.

    Similar shit happened with FN, where it saw some mediocre success which immediately went to its head, and now FN is a complete fucking joke.

    Sig is just in the early stages of this cycle of hubris.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Sig isn’t fucking up the commercial end though. Everyone is buying P320s and P365s now. The MCX is also really popular.

  22. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    do ANY OF YOU own a hk-p226 45?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      No, just a Glock & Wesson .30

  23. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Why all the hate?
    their hollowpoints dont expand when clogged with clothing

  24. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Milwaukee policed dept had to recall 500,000 of their pistols because they fuckin suck at QC? overpriced government contractor? the richfags that only like them because they're rich and you're not?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Why would the Milwaukee pd have half a million pistols?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Not even the DoD has 500k pistols. Shut the fuck up.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      meds

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      AFAIK, septa was the only department to replace 320 after a discharge with glocks right away without waiting for an investigation. Third party investigation from a different department confirmed sigs finding that the gun was fine it it was user error. I actually sounded like they had a deal with glock lined up and had to get sig out of the picture with by using a preexisting issue.

  25. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I love reading these threads.

  26. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Swiss made P226 good
    Amerigarden gnome P320 bad

    Ironically the SP2022 or whatever they’re called are more trustworthy for not being made with Indian parts and are cheaper now

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >muh Indian parts
      You car is made with parts from Mexico. Your clothes were made in Vietnam. Your phone and computer are from China. Your TV and refrigerator were put together in Bangladesh. Shut the fuck up.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Swiss made P226 good
        Amerigarden gnome P320 bad

        Ironically the SP2022 or whatever they’re called are more trustworthy for not being made with Indian parts and are cheaper now

        Indian parts aren't really in use anymore I believe. AFAIK, currently sig parts made in India are for maintain the Indian military 716s due to some sort of contract that some parts need to be made in India. MIM parts for general production should now come from the same company, indomim, but from the Texas plant.

    • 2 months ago
      Burt

      https://i.imgur.com/sqjuItn.jpg

      >glocknade memes
      You think it was a meme? Oof. The design choices that led to kabooms and the changes glok made to prevent this happening from gen 3 on are well documented and explained. What other extremely provable things do you think are fake? The moon landing? Paper mask ineffectiveness? The after-hours 2020 election result """corrections"""?

      [...]
      >made with Indian parts
      Mm yes link pictures and articles proving or even >implying Indian made Sig parts break at a higher rate please? Please do not leave the thread anon please

  27. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Sig faggles on suicide watch. Yet ANOTHER issue with serious safety implications....

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >one single modified pistol fires
      >but only when the trigger is pulled
      >it was already fixed and isnt happening again
      >serious safety implications
      Is this how Glocksuckers live? Just bouncing from cope to cope desperately trying to bash anything that isn't their precious 2x4??

  28. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Juden.

  29. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I've owned quite a few Glocks of different sizes. I've also owned a couple P320s, a 365,365XL, and an M11-a1.

    I liked the SIG pistols better in every way over Glocks (of which I no longer own).

    With that said, I only own the 365 now because it is my favorite micro-compact.

    CZ makes superior striker fired pistols to both of the aforementioned. If I had a need and a decent priced Sig was available, I'd have to weigh my options between the two companies.

    The only justified hate against Sig is that they are slightly overpriced and had a few teething issues with their early 320s. The CEO is a detractor also but the pistol designs when compared to their competition don't deserve the hate.

    Pic just for fun: M11-a1 vs P10c (on top) which costs considerably different. I shot better with the cheaper CZ. P229 looks way cooler and had an amazing trigger...but that was all.

  30. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Success breeds jealousy.

  31. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Because Ron beat Gaston at his own game. Ron is selling Sig pistols and rifles to governments for pennies on the dollar to get some prestige amongst normie commercial buyers and then when the normies say, "Wow, the US Marines use this pistol! I must have one," and rush to go buy one (or two, or three), Sig charges the normie three times what they're worth.

  32. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    TSM TSM TSM TSM

  33. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Modern SIG is CHINESE GARBAGE written in cursive

  34. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    HK is better

  35. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Most large corporations and all multinationals are corrupt and share board members. This is done to ensure everyone is on the same page - manage pre-planned outcomes, kill competition and enrich themselves.
    But this doesn’t happen in weapons and aerospace because these industries have morals and free markets. It’s all so retarded.

    TL/DR: Sig is just a peek at what we can expect going forward. Everything is rigged.

  36. 2 months ago
    Anonymous
    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      heh, thats pretty good

  37. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    It's overpriced for what it is.

    For me, I only buy US made guns. I'd never buy guns made by freedom-hating gay countries.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Ah, yes. New Hampshire, USA. That gay country.

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