Who is the best at wasting taxpayers' money? Posted on May 7, 2023 by PrepHole Contributor Who is the best at wasting taxpayers' money?
Army hands down. They have no peacetime mission and honestly shouldn't fucking exist.
t. marine upset about losing armored units
The one who have the most zoomerified logo
Okay defund your navy and embrace BIG CHINK COCK dumb retards. Army is the clear winner here.
The navy has more purpose than the army, but the navy is still abhorrently wasteful.
I didn’t say the Navy isn’t needed, retard. I’m saying those at the top are running it in the most ineffective and wasteful way. I’d love it if the Navy pulled its head out of its ass
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the coast guard is just a 2nd navy that we made as a joke
The Coast Guard is the only one of those groups that's actually worth the money spent on it. They're also the only branch of the US military that I respect and wouldn't consider to be "zogbots".
Fuck off and join your leader in hell, nazi
Calm down. Take your ssri's and lay off the bathtub hrt.
> falling for bait that obvious
> dying for Israel
> when being even a literal deployed ground pounding grunt in the middle of Fallujah was still safer than being a regular civilian in Chicago
This doesn't add up anon
Yeah, and why do you think chicago is unsafe right now? Who runs america right now? And who do you really fight for on deployment? Man zogbots really are stupid, huh?
> goalposts moving
Like clockwork, ~~*you*~~ expose yourself
You brought up chicago being a shithole, I'm reminding you why.
Whatever you say Moishe
Shouldn't you be dying for Israel, grunt?
You're trying too hard, hasbara.
Navy 100%, they seem determined to weed out all competent leadership both enlisted and commissioned until only retards who break things are left. See the Navy’s recent paperwork disaster for an example.
Navy. All of their shit is expensive and their procurement over the last 20 years has been shit.
Absolutely necessary branch, however the Navy is the most corrupt branch, and has the most incidents which destroy million/billion dollar+ equipment because of peacetime brain rot. I've seen cooks in the Navy throw out 80% of the food on a ship (totaling millions of dollars) with zero repercussion before, just because they didn't feel like cooking it, and the gay officers turn a blind eye. 5th Fleet is a cancer on this Earth.
> Marine Corps
This branch genuinely should not exist, but the amount of money they receive is nowhere near the amount wasted by the Navy so they get a pass. It is the Army, but with less training capability.
Absolutely necessary branch, but the Army has a lot of bloat now with various SOF and special purpose units, but is actively cutting the bloat (E.G. cutting down 3 entire SFABs) so I actually gained some respect for their bean counters. The waste at most levels seems to be stupid shit like Soldiers stealing chem lights or the occasional compass, and all the large suspected grifts end up punished in some way.
> Air Force
Absolutely necessary branch, does not seemingly waste much money (inb4 muh 6 gorillion dollar hammer meme) and is the absolute strongest Air Force in the world 10 times over.
> Coast Guard
Another necessary branch, and I don't really know enough about them to say that they waste any amount of taxpayer money. I imagine they should probably have funding greater than the USMC and a larger PR presence to get more recruits, because direct defense of borders and interception missions are cool.
t. former Marine turned Army fag, close friends and family all over the other branches aside from the Coast Guard
The Navy is the most wasteful but most of the waste comes from their contracts and the higher ups lining themselves up for a cushy job in the MIC after retirement.
Some salty CSs tossing food out is merely a drop in the ocean that is Navy waste.
> Some salty CSs tossing food out is merely a drop in the ocean that is Navy waste
That is my point. A handful of shitty cooks managed to waste millions of dollars just because they felt like it, and it's only a drop in the Navy's absolutely massive waste.
Oh okay yeah we agree then. The culture of waste that permeates the Navy is almost baffling when you can say the cooks are wasting million of dollars in food and I shrug my shoulders because I’ve seen way worse.
Idk what can be done about it at this point, cause when I was in anyone who tried to make things better was shat on especially by the chiefs.
Actually, a good first step would be to get rid of the chiefs mess. It’s a stupid cult that drives out anyone competent.
Redpill me on the 6 gorillion dollar hammer.
Berillium-Copper alloy hammers, used around the liquid oxygen supply systems of aircraft because they are non-sparking when hit. Very expensive, used examples go for >$120 and new they were probably way more. And you needed an entire set of Berylco tools to service those aircraft, one of the reasons they are trying to phase out LOx in favor of molecular sieve oxygen generators on newer aircraft
The navy uses the fact that it has the most peacetime relevance to deflect criticism from being insanely inefficient and corrupt.
it's not a waste it's a dark world still
Russian demoralization thread
The correct answer is none. All branches act as a deterrent despite some wasteful spending and keep vatniks contained in their subhuman zone. Ukraine belongs to NATO btw
>Ukraine belongs to NATO
Why does this make Ruzzians seethe so bad?
The most wasteful branch is the space force. Give it time
The Space Force will have the greatest return on investment capita of any other branch in a few decades. Just look at how dependent Ukrainians were on Elon's satellite, how much seethe he caused the Ukrainians when he wouldn't let them use it in Crimea, and how much seethe it generated for the Russians when he let them use it again.
If there is no war, the marines have zero purpose. At this point with drones, the marines need to be integrated with the Army, but not the ~~*normal*~~ Army with the morons and Hispanics, but a quasi-B team Green Berets.
> Even remotely close in quality to Green Berets
Kek, anon Marines aren't even of equal quality to the 18th Airborne Corps, much less actual SOF
t. 0331 now 11B who was absolutely astounded by how much actual training time Army grunts get
Haver they really dialed down the Marines? yeah I get that the Army trains more, but in my mind, the Marines are the "advanced Army"
You must’ve been in 4 Reg. Most army units are complete dog water.
>Lock out conflict that nature/man causes so I can enjoy first world amenities instead of living somewhere like the eastern Congo, western Iraq, or northern Mexico.
I really don't mind losing a quarter of my paycheck for that.
Navy/Coast Guard - Integrated
Army/Marines - Integrated
Air Force - Is very necessary
Space Force - Will be very necessary soon. I think that the Space Force needs to be a fusion of glowie organizations that handle all intelligence/technology/NASA stuff - A super branch of the elite IMO
I think that Special Forces from all branches should be a branch itself. Sort of like the CIA's SAD, but the federal version.
>I think that Special Forces from all branches should be a branch itself. Sort of like the CIA's SAD, but the federal version
This would make them worse. SOF are good because they have a conventional base, the reason Green Berets, Rangers, and Raiders (well, at least the 5 missions they've actually done) typically shit all over SEALs in actual combat is because their pipeline isn't completely adjacent to conventional grunts.
Fair enough. I mean is the only thing that separates the SOFs are uniforms? PJs Berets and SEALS have to be competent in swimming, halo and languages to survive......so the missions are the only difference?
>is the only thing that separates the SOFs are uniforms
No, they have an intensely specialized training schedule, advanced schools, and mission set which is added on top of a high proficiency in conventional infantry tactics and shit like machine gun theory. If you make them their own branch entirely, they lose their infantry background. Most SOF start as regular grunts.
>Haver they really dialed down the Marines?
You are a victim of a massive PR campaign. We were unironically at no point better than the Army, especially the 18th Airborne Corps/Ranger Batt/Group.
Google "600 dollar hammer myth", PrepHole thinks the link is spam.
TL;DR the public and Congress are unironically retarded and can not read spread sheets or funding allocation beyond headline level, and thought the Air Force spent 600 dollars on hammers because they don't know what the word 'average' means in an average cost of overhead for items and overhead. Ironically, this is similar to how reformers currently think F-35s cost 400 gorillion billion dollars, when in reality they are cheaper than F-16s.
Navy. Which is sad considering their significance for a future peer or near-peer conflict. Past 30 years of ideas and procurement have been nothing but disappointment.
>running NAFO which has massively fucked up support for the ukraine war
>launders money on the back end for black budget
US Navy by far. Think of all the money wasted on shit like Zumwalts and the LCS they've poured money into over the years. All just to abandon them and go with projects they should've from the start like the Constellation Class.
Even worse when you realize the time aspects. Army and Marines doing field trials for some new rifles they'll abandon doesn't hurt nearly as bad as wasting literal decades of time, manpower, and manufacturing capacity to build meme ships that won't even see more than 5 ships each.
90% of a soldier’s time is wasted, most of the army should be reserves or national guard except for SOF and some QRF forces. But the Navy takes the cake for stupid, colossal wastes of money.
The Air Force and space force are actually pretty competent.
In the real world you need a standing army because "Lol I'll have one ready in a year or so, time out, hang on guys" doesn't work. Whether your Soldiers spend a few hours a day playing fuck fuck games doesn't really matter, the point is that you have a capable Army right now today.
Army by a mile
Marines spend the least because they get everyone else's sloppy seconds
Air Force is the biggest net benefit.