What weapons would you use to break this line of defence?

What weapons would you use to break this line of defence?

  1. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    A B-52

  2. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Attack helos

  3. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    two toyota hiluxes and some towing cables.
    how big are those things? we may need three.

  4. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I didnt know russians also built pyramids for their dead

  5. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    a couple of mexicans I found outside home depot and about $200 cash

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      basado

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >a couple of mexicans I found outside home depot and about $200 cash
      how much does they make BTW? Facebook keeps showing me videos of some guy cleaning roofs with pressure washer who claims he makes $300 an hour. He lives in PNW, so there's moss everywhere.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        300 dollars a hour for manual labour and a pressure washer is such a load of bullshit. You're being fed lies, 30-40/h might be feasible. Maybe even 70 if it's specialised, or he got a good contract in a super posh area.
        He's selling you his tiktok/insta account and a fake story.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        $300 per hour is bullshit but it's fairly common for Mexican migrants to make $30-$50 per hour if they can find a niche tradie position. To accomplish that they typically need to be self employed. To do that, they usually need capital funding. Some simply save up; others have a support network of community and family. That said, I've seen multiple Mexican families that have gone from janitors to self employed to tradies and then had their kids work as manager and then get college educations and end up in comfy upper middle or high income suburbs within 1-2 suburbs. It's not easy at all but definitely doable. I'm in SGV and this is pretty common. Armenians, Sikhs, Thais, Guats, Peruvians and Viets do this too.

  6. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Tanks with a bundle of pipes strapped to them, a few with plows on them and a couple of de-mining vehicles leading a mechanized grouping.

  7. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    the problem is not so much the barrier as it is the ATGMs and what not on the other side waiting for you to slow down and move through it

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      those aren't a problem though once the M30A1's do their thing. erase the enemy troops, drive up to the antitank ditch and drop in some tactical logs or a culvert or toss a prefab bridge section over it, shoot out some anti-mine rope, and go right on through. total time less than 30 minutes. the US did it in gulf war 1 against much better prepared lines. we still have the equipment in inventory, i bet they could lend or lease the ukrainians some of that gear.

  8. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Did Russia miss the part where these need to be secured /interlinked?

    Because these look like you could just bulldoze them away. or are they just meant to to the chad Humvee raids

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Would a pontoon bridge do?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Since the teeth aren't anchored deeply in the ground by the looks of it, you could most likely just use an earth mover to plow them over.

        Which is great, because you can use the same machines to fill the trenches further up ahead. Preferably burying the vatniks alive.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Even if they're fixed in position all you need is a tank with a dozer blade to push some dirt up and bury them, then you can drive straight over.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/zPdZ2jC.jpg

      What weapons would you use to break this line of defence?

      Or at least watch the spacing? these are pretty far apart.

      sure if its dialed in by arty or you have a ATGM/ javelin overwatch it might still work. but it seems so half assed

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        pic could get past the post

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >half assed
        You just described Russia in two words.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      It's mostly just to slow any attack down and sit them in one spot long enough to give artillery a few minutes and a good concentrated location to shoot at. Obviously any kinda static entrenchment is pretty easy to overcome if it's not defended. This just slows down any AT4 humvee thunder runs.

  9. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Low morale

  10. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    you know from above those trenches looked a bit more impressive

  11. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    any type of tractor should suffice

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      So... Does Ukraine have any tractors?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        none whatsoever

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        idk

  12. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    is the area mined?

  13. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    A cat d6m and a free weekend

  14. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    But see, the army has thought about this long and hard.
    They may be getting lots of military support, but as long as they know their enemy isn't being given construction equipment by their benefactors, they are safe in the knowledge that this line will hold!

  15. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    They captured a handful of these

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >from turret tossing Olympics to trench TOS-ing Olympics
      like pottery

  16. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Were we born in time to see the Killdozer storm of the Sergey Line?

  17. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Those dragons teeth are retarded, with that spacing and layout tanks will just run right over them.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Those dragons teeth are retarded, with that spacing and layout tanks will just run right over them.
      They really can't, the spacing is deliberate and tuned to tanks.

      They didn't work in practice because they were either built wrong and could be moved with a dozer or just buried and tanks went over the top.

      When built right, they're a post of steel core, concrete exterior that goes down a way and has the pyramid formed in place on the top. They're not all made that way though.

      Americans in WWII knew about them and had time to prepare so they were ready with dozer tanks and went right over or through them.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Armored engineering vehicle and hit them with the dozer blade.

      Meant to be overwatch with ATGM. Its why they aren't using a proper meters high berm barrier.

      A more permanent way to employ these would be to put them all over (as in completely cover a highway underpass or paved built up areas. And then instead of this dig fuckoff huge tank trap trench 6 meters square profile, take the dirt back pile it into elevated fortification well behind

  18. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Easy peasy

  19. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    ATGM

  20. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I'd use a armoured spear head to attack the line where it is the the weakest. Usually this is where the line is the most straight and undermaned.

  21. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Ehh, pontoons?

  22. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    where's the video we had the other day of them putting it together?

  23. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Drive up to it with basically any tank
    >Attach tow cable
    >Pull 5 meters
    >Repeat with second line
    >Pull 15 meters
    GG

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Slows down your mechanised charge across the plains though, maybe long enough for them to call in artillery on your stalled tanks and APCs.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >maybe long enough for them to call in artillery on your stalled tanks and APCs.
        If they were all sunk deeply enough to require specialised equipment, maybe

        But these clearly arent that kind of defense

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Anon, do you think all of it is gonna be monitored with NVG after all the entrenched tanks all get blitzed by artillery in a week?
        These can unironically be sapped at night with impunity wthout vehicles even once those t62's are killed (Easily). 4 lads and a rope, topple it sideways, do the same to the other one on the other side.
        GG you have a gap a tank can get through.

  24. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Literally any engineering vehicle designed to destroy fortifications? PrepHole is amazing. People tend to not know the most basic shit about military on weapons board. I blame 4chan refugees. Its always them.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Do the Ukrainians have those? Even if they do, the reason is to slow you down and allow pre sighted artillery and AGTM teams to rekt your shit.

  25. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    THEY DIDN'T EVEN CUT THE HOOKS.

    Just fucking hook it to your btr or somethins, and pull it off.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      youre overestimating russian troops intelligence

  26. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Are those trenches mere inches deep...?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      That's just the trucks tire marks
      Ukraine mud for you.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      They need eleventy billion more burger certificates to dig proper trenches to keep Vlad out!!

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Those are Russian trenches bro

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Really? The Ukes are advancing into Russia?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Yeah, they have been for a long time now. Or did you forget the annexation happened?

  27. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Just roll over it bro

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Will Russian run out of tank and send this to the front?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Nah, Soviets melted down the old Tzar Tank for the steel back in the 50s.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          No fucking way. Really?

  28. 2 months ago
    Anonymous
  29. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Alright, I'm an idiot, so humor me: What stops someone from just driving around this shit into the field? Mines? If so, why not just put mines down anyway?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Nothing. But if you're forced to go somewhere you're expected to go to 'bypass' then chances are there are people waiting for you. Defensive lines aren't just about pure blocking, but funnelling you into areas to be killed.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >just driving around this shit
      The lines extend for entire countries.

  30. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Armored engineering vehicle and hit them with the dozer blade.

  31. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Clear out enemy observers/spotters. Clear out mines up to the line with armored bulldozers. Bury the teeth by dumping gravel onto them with dump trucks (yes it should ideally be gravel because it doesn't settle as much as regular old dirt). Shape the piles to provide a nice, gentle slope over the teeth. Repeat process at multiple locations.

    You can technically skip the truck part and just bulldoze dirt from the surrounding fields, but you'll have some trouble because dirt settles a lot as you drive over it repeatedly. You'll need a wider pile so that vehicles can be staggered laterally.

    Biggest threat is enemy activity and long-range fire. If you can keep those at bay, you'll be through the line in less than an hour.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Just have the armored engineering vehicle drop blade and push dirt over them. No need to try and find a dump truck full of fucking gravel sitting around in a warzone.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        You can skip it initially, but if you want that muddy field crossing to stay usable, you'll have to lay down some grit eventually. Otherwise both ends of it will turn into tank traps in and of themselves.

        You're essentially building a new road here (with a little elevated bit in the middle), and damp dirt does not stand up to repeated loading with heavy vehicles. It's loose so it gets displaced, forming tracks. It's compressible and settles a lot, so you get depressions. And those tracks and depressions then fill with water, which accelerates the erosion further. You don't need to take road engineering 101 to understand why without gravel it will come apart in a hurry.

        Of course if your thrust through the line results in you gaining control of adjacent, proper roads, you'll use them instead. But can you be sure of success?

  32. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    My AVT could winch those out out of the way, a fucking F250 with a snow plow would smash right through that.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >My AVT could winch those out out of the way, a fucking F250 with a snow plow would smash right through that.
      They're just a head on a thick steel pole that goes down.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        See:

        They are not dragon teeth, dragon teeth has buried concrete gums joining them together stopping you moving them, sinking them, etc, they are fixed in place.
        These putinist ones are just concrete traffic cones, drag em, push em, drive on em and sink em, blow them out the way, drive between gaps.

        There was a clip of them being laid down, they aren't held in by anything they are just concrete triangles. Three or four guys could just roll them out of the way.

  33. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    They are not dragon teeth, dragon teeth has buried concrete gums joining them together stopping you moving them, sinking them, etc, they are fixed in place.
    These putinist ones are just concrete traffic cones, drag em, push em, drive on em and sink em, blow them out the way, drive between gaps.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      potemkin dragon teeth, amazing

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      oh my god theres nothing under them? So just squish them into the mud and go on with your life?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Correct.

        https://i.imgur.com/KRmrpkv.png

        whats this like 7 inches in the ground?
        i thought they were digging a trench

        A fortification for ants?

        No fucking way. Really?

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous
      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Would you really have to do anything manually though? I feel like the mud will just... take care of the problem for you, eventually. They look very sinkable.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          this. there may even be some points that could be flooded to accelerate / control your access.

          This might be a stupid question but can't they just shoot GMLRS at X points and then just drive through there?

          yep, but it funnels your units as they move in and out, you want a wider breach ideally

          Are you new here?
          >On February 25, 1991, three days before the Gulf War would be declared over, the United States engaged in what would become known as the "bulldozer assault." In order to break through the Iraqis' defensive line, the US Army mounted plows onto their tanks to drive over the trenches and bunkers. According to The Seattle Times, more than 70 miles of trenches were initially being defended by more than 8,000 Iraqi soldiers. In the end, around 2,000 soldiers surrendered, and the rest had been buried, alive and dead, under the sand.

          I'd kinda love this option. The lack of US casualties is gonna look appealing to Ukr, the US would probably be happy to advise with planning and scoping, and strategically it feels like a good way to hit morale.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      The whole idea is that you're under fire and can't just move them away or drive through them. As bad as they are, you still can't easily cross them.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        They can be pushed dude, like very easily. And depending on their construction and the fact that they aren’t anchored I bet you could easily turned and throw some up by shelling them.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >The whole idea is that you're under fire and can't just move them away or drive through them
        >60ton tank simply drives over them and pushes them to the side

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          60 ton tank with a dozer you mean, but yeah

  34. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    ArcLight

  35. 2 months ago
    Anonymous
    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Might as well paint a giant red bullseye on the side for the AT missile to kill you easier.

  36. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Russian morale

  37. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    My bet is this defensive line will make them extremely complacent. I wouldn't even be slightly shocked if they pulled a lot of defenders from behind this to go to less "protected" areas leaving skeleton crews behind to guard the line. Carefully and quietly move troops, armor, SAMs, and MANPADS teams into the target area. HIMARS and arty the living shit out of defenders in the area then send in armored dozers and MCLCs. Once it's clear enough to charge through do so.

  38. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    You can just call Caterpillar and order a dozen of these, they're just armored D9s

  39. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    whats this like 7 inches in the ground?
    i thought they were digging a trench

  40. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    why is the trench straight? If a shell lands in that trench the shrapnel will spread over a huge range, even ww1 trenches zig zaged.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      How many fucking times are retards like you going to ask the same question, the fucking "trenches" are to put the fucking dragon teeth in, the snow morons haven't finished or won't finish the job properly, Jesus fucking christ just look at the ones that already have the fucking obstacles in them
      USE YOUR FUCKING EYES

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        The "trenches" are literaly just dirt tracks from the lorries that placed the dragons teeth retard
        The fact that they might use them later for mine placement is irrelevant

  41. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Unironically carpet bombing.

  42. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >the dragon teeth are just sitting there, on top of the ground, unanchored

    So this will stop the Ukrainians for like what, 5 minutes as they laugh their asses off?

  43. 2 months ago
    Anonymous
  44. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    A firefighting helicopter dumping gravel would be pretty original.
    But I guess AA threat would not allow this?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      How about foam filled artillery shells?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Yo.
        Think about it.
        Artillery shells full of pink hyper expandable foam?

  45. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    This might be a stupid question but can't they just shoot GMLRS at X points and then just drive through there?

  46. 2 months ago
    T-I-G-E-R-S

    Are you new here?
    >On February 25, 1991, three days before the Gulf War would be declared over, the United States engaged in what would become known as the "bulldozer assault." In order to break through the Iraqis' defensive line, the US Army mounted plows onto their tanks to drive over the trenches and bunkers. According to The Seattle Times, more than 70 miles of trenches were initially being defended by more than 8,000 Iraqi soldiers. In the end, around 2,000 soldiers surrendered, and the rest had been buried, alive and dead, under the sand.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >posting a literal propaganda story

      no evidence of the infamous memedozer assault has ever been presented.

  47. 2 months ago
    Anonymous
  48. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Dirtbikes
    >too light to set of AT mines
    >drive straight between the dragons teeth
    >do sick jumps over enemy trenches
    >gone before anyone can stop you

  49. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Just walk over it.

  50. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    these don't look very securely placed. feel like a combat tractor could just dig them out or even the weight on an MBT tipping them over.

    Also a big L to all the people who said that the JP-233 was a meme weapon because the soviets wouldn't have been retarded enough to let the anti-repair anti-bulldozer mines stop them for long. This is a good example that yes russian combat engineering is that retarded.

  51. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >PrepHole literally doesn't know what dragon's teeth are used for in 2022

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >>PrepHole literally doesn't know what dragon's teeth are used for in 2022
      Show how backward your country defense are?
      I mean, sure it might still slow a modern tank for a day and channel them in some place, but in the modern era it's a lot of effort that impede your own defense more than it block offense.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      the issue is execution. If these were properly anchored and placed in depth they would be useful.

      If you just get some blydos in a kamaz to drop concrete pyramids on a plowed field then it's just a worse version of a minefield since a tank with a blade can just push them out the way easy. At least with AT mines the tanks have to follow the leader in a conga line like Mr Safety Car. With these they could just keep a normal formation dropping WP and HE on your AT positions while the dozerchads break through the banan line.

  52. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    dynamite dynamite dynamite

  53. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    A HE artllery shell.

  54. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Dragonteeth and shallow trenches without corners in year of our lord 2022 - that is not half-assed, but plain retarded.

    Considering how weak and highly visible that is , it may not be the actual defense line and the real one might be hidden behind it.

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