>Chief of the General Staff Valery Gerasimov has been appointed Commander of the Joint Group of Forces, the RF Ministry of Defense reports.
>Previously, this position was held by Sergei Surovikin.
>Upd: Surovikin was demoted to deputy.
>Chief of the General Staff Valery Gerasimov has been appointed Commander of the Joint Group of Forces, the RF Ministry of Defense reports.
>Previously, this position was held by Sergei Surovikin.
>Upd: Surovikin was demoted to deputy.
tl;dr General Armageddon is out
So this is why these homosexuals were all over the board these past few days. Vatniks law never fails.
Its Gerasimovs' demotion, anon. Actually he was removed from any operations long ago, just holding the title. Now his title is reduced too. Surovikin despite his deputy status is continue to be full commander. Its Russian court games to hold face and not fire Gerasimov completely thus admitting his failure.
>is continue to be full commander
how did you come to that conclusion?
Because in Russia you don't become operation commander from Chief of the Staff. From such high position you either go upwards or sideways not down. If you entered Moscow you stay in Moscow. Going down and back from Rome to province is full sacking. And full sacking means guy is not considered worthy and reliable to be allowed to do something himself. He is wedding general now.
Gerasimov doesn't lose his old position. Surovikin is now a complete nobody.
He is defacto replaced by Lapin.
>Lapin
>Surovikin
>Gerasimov
Why does Putin keep promoting the most useless people?
Useless people pose no threat.
Gerasimov has somehow escaped being scapegoated until now. No more.
AHAHAHAHAHA.
Another one bites the dust! Guess we know how great Bakhmkut and Soledar are going!
>General Amagettin Cvcked gets cvcked
LMAO
the resemblance is uncanny
I mean, that's generally the face of a slav who enjoys his victuals.
Bongs are island slavs and they have cheap(er) access to food, a competant military, and a functioning civil society. That's why the mere existences of Bongland makes Russians seethe.
Doughboy is wholesome.
>Bongs are island slavs
Is this why there's a freakishly odd number of Bongs that look like the Original Slavs?
Much of their buildings for the poors mimic commieblock depression as well.
Take your pick from industrial housing for the working class, what are effectively company towns, entire towns owned by a single atristocrat, slumrows built as cheaply as possible, thatcherism...
Any of those could be reasons and other bullshit stuff about English society too but you can pretty much sum it up as English peasants get fricked by the rich and powerful and always have. Home ownership is relatively uncommon in England where landlords have traditionally been lords and politicians and been able to do what the frick they liked.
Mfw the Ukrainians redeemed UCP by dying it with correct colors.
What a disgusting slob
You can't really call it cvcked.
This is your reminder that until one year ago, Moscow was considered the capital of the swinging world. They have palace-like swinger clubs that are renowned among eurotrash swingers, full of decadent orgies and gangbangs and wifeswapping, whatever you're into provided it's not male bisexuality but even that's permitted in rooms with doors.
The Russians have trannies too? Why are we having a war then :l
>cuckmaggedon, the farter of queef, the one who was supposed to bring ukraine to heel
but chug said hell win the war….
Nooo, not the based and epicpilled Gen. Cuckbaldgeddon
Notice how all the big missile waves haven't happened for the last few weeks as well
More like Armageddon't
From General Armageddon to General Jobless
>Gerasimov
Wasn't he already in charge earlier?
Gerasimov is the Chief of the General Staff (aka the equivalent of the US Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff), which is the highest ranking position in the Russian military. That isn't normally an operational command, but now he's in direct command of the Russian forces in Ukraine.
So the literaly armchair general is now in charge. Is Shoigu next?
Holy shit Gerasimov is still around? I thought he was dead or at least gone for good from military affair.
>What the frick is going on
Putin doesn't understand that a new general can't change the situation on the battlefield because every general gets handed increasingly shorter stick to use for leveraging
maybe that's his point
he wants to weaken the army and keep only people who care about money around, and who will thus answer to him and his cadre
losing wars on purpose is usually not a good long term strategy, we will see how it works out for him
General Armgeddingouttahere living up to his namesake
>shows up
>spends all of their strategic missile reserves on some horseshit targets
>pulls troops out of Kherson
>refuses to elaborate
>leaves
checked and kekked
p.s. if this gets screencapped, get me there pls
Holy based, he was a CIA asset this whole time.
>Moskva converted to (permanent) submarine
>Cosmonaut program gets new applicants
>Creation of the longest pier in the world
But hey they took the super important town of Soledar after just a few months, very impressive.
Surovikin! where is my banana!!! you're fired!!!
Oh. Explains the spam then.
>Valery
This homie got a GIRLS name
recap of his entire Military Achievements in Ukraine
>Bombs Ukraine for months with 0 results
>Sevastopol Drone Raid
>Hands over the entirety of Kherson to Ukies for free
>Continues the tradition of attacking bakhmut
>Luhansk frontline slowly deteriorating
>Strategic Bomber Force gets air striked
>Russian Airforce base infiltrated by a single Saboteur causing the destruction of 2 Ka-52s
>Stores Ammunition under Soldiers' Barracks
>Ex-Head Cosmonaut gets her balls blown off
>NATO Countries now considering sending Modern MBTs and IFVs to ukraine
Thats all I remember
Feel free to add more
It's no longer consideration it's happening bongs announced that MBT are inbound
His greatest achievements were making short gains along Bakhmut and Soledar, the former which had Ukraine’s PRESIDENT visor while the battle was still ongoing.
There’s also the drone attacks on airbases (notably the TU-95s) and the relocation of more troops to Belarus.
>Cliques
Do the Oligarchs falling out of windows having anything to do with this?This is CCP level feuds. Where different factions fighting for control.
Why are these cliques having so much political infighting in such an important war?
Is Putin in a side or do these groups simply fight for his favor?
It's just Shoigu winning in the bureaucratic games against Kadyrov-Prigozhyn-Surovikin clique. Recent general Lapin promotion how has been heavily criticized by Prigozhyn and Kadyrov for Izyum frick up was also an indication for that.
t. Russian
Can you explain every Russian faction and their goals in this war? Sounds interesting.
Honestly, it would be a huge blogpost deserving it's own thread.
Please do make one. It's better than whatever the frick is happening right now.
Doves aka morons (Putin, Shoigu, Gerasimov etc)
Hawks aka based (Kadirov, Prigozhin, Medvedev, Surovikin etc)
how are the doves in power?
Because the doves' response to failure is to try and stop it from becoming a disaster, while the hawks' response to failing is to do the same thing only harder. They're both incompetent, but the latter are moronic too.
Not him, but here's the simplified view.
Much like any other government, especially during a war and a with potential dissolution of the state at stake, the Russian government is a collection of warring cliques.
Putin, meanwhile, is chosen as sort of a holy arbiter of these conflicts and the magical glue that holds the state together, NOBODY else having any real claim to the presidency.
Putin's primary agenda used to change every ~several years starting from the early 00s where he was a straight up "sane" capitalist whose main goal was to bring up the standard of living in Russia to that of Portugal (i.e. a sort of a quintessential "mid" yuro country) then giving his infamous 2007 speech in Germany, then Georgia, then the descent into Orthodox-fascism (to get the Church's/FSB's clerical wing's approval) and then all the Ukraine shit.
Add the need to balance out a bunch of crazy people back at home to his own ambition and insanity (fricker unironically thinks of the fall of the USSR as "the greatest geopolitical catastrophe of the 20th century") and you get a country that does what Russia did a year ago -- shot itself in the head.
Now, the two most important factions:
>MOD/Shoigu/generalstab-related clique of chinovniks that had previously been annihilated PR-wise (not without the second faction's help) until the recent appointment of Lapin which is a huge win for them
>a bizarre Prigozhin/Kadyrov quasi-alliance whose main agenda was to discredit the army and praise their own accomplishments -- this is why you see Bakhmut attacked so viciously -- it was to be a bargaining chip for Prigozhinites to become a powerful political unit and decide the next president
Add to that the eternal Éminence grise of the FSB and the fact that there's like 5 or so PMS's being created RIGHT NOW, including by fricking SHOIGU himself, which is a direct signal of the post-war fight for assets and you get a nuclear wienertail, which is really nothing new for Russian politics.
>there's like 5 or so PMS's being created RIGHT NOW, including by fricking SHOIGU himself
Let's not forget Kyrills own "holy" warriors
If that's not a proof that the FSB faction is planning to go all in themselves, i don't know what is
>Add to that the eternal Éminence grise of the FSB
Redpill me on these guys, I thought Putin as a lifelong spook would at least have the FSB fully under his thumb.
Anon, the only way to have the FSB under your thumb is to have a gun pointed at their head, and it just so happens that all the guns are in Ukraine, but the FSB isn't.
>5 or so PMS's being created RIGHT NOW
You mean since many years.
Shoigu's company was created in 2019 for example.
The rest of your post is similarly skirting just past the truth - Putin has always been the strong KGB leader that will kill them all. The only way one could be unaware of this past 2000 is if you were not paying any attention to what he does and who he's surrounding himself with.
What 2007 speech by Putin are you referencing?
is soigu really that important? He comes across as a nice and safe placeholder yes man who does what is demanded from him but prefers playing with his wood on his downtime. Maybe he is a front man for whomever is seeking the private army? Like the putinist loyalist just in case civil war erupts
>Lapin
>In June 2022 it was revealed that he was the commander of the Army Group "Center" of the Russian Army Forces in the 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine.[3][9] In late March, he visited the front line and awarded a medal to his son, the commander fighting in Sumy and Chernihiv, just before the Russian army withdrew.[10]
Kek
Is it all that bad?
he still believes in God, cute
If God exists than he clearly does not like Russia. Not that I blame them for hating Russia.
God exists, and He hates russia.
Army is couping Putin, it's happening! Gerasimov humiliate's both of Putin's bald poodles on the same day!
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I wonder if someone will actually buy that?
>Depletes your strategic Missile reserves
>Refuses to elaborate
>Leaves
выпиcaн в хoхлы
Honk!
explains the explosion of vatnik bots posting recently
Armageddon demoted to Bad Day
He was promoted downwards
called it when he was appointed
they added 2 more generals to assist Surovikin
in shill eyes it is somehow bad for RuAF
Westerners dont understand, if you have 5 General Army is 5 times better *~~*~~*~~
not that its hard to be better than western army in the first place
Reminder that said western army hasnt even shown up yet and Russia cant event maintain air dominance or naval dominance.
In Bloodbowl your team rating goes up the more assistant coaches you hire.
Surovikin is sidelined. Being a "deputy" means that you sit in the closet and hope that someone remembers you at some point.
he still holds his old position, but please keep coping we all love to laugh
What the frick are you talking about, moron? Gerasimov now holds his old position.
go on
Is this your chosen cope? To simply deny reality?
Yes.
>I'll call them reddit, that'll show them
Did it hurt your feels?
+0.20$ in your taco bell account
>videoconferencing
VKS
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_Aerospace_Forces
BКC = "air-space force", not videoconferencing
Anyway, he is still moronic
Bad translation, vks= airforce. Meaning attacks on kindergartens will continue
Shhhhh, relax. Just breath in, everything will be fine. Don't worry about a thing.
This you?
This is sad. At least put in enough effort to reword it and don't copy paste for fricks sake, you're getting paid for it after all.
seems like you know a lot about it lul
My sides
No promotion for you, anon
One more frickup and it's off to Bakhmut
By changing the leadership of the army every three minutes nobody is able to threaten Putin and they keep fighting between themselves and the 3 PMCs.
Great if you want to stay on top. Bad if you fight a war.
/k/, is it normal to fire your general of the army after a major tactical victory? Why would they fire the guy that captured super fortress Soledar? Unless... that wasn't a lie, was it? They DID capture Soledar, right???
>/k/, is it normal to fire your general of the army after a major tactical victory?
They want to give the other side a fighting chance.
This. Gesture of good will. They want to give their other generals a chance at glory. Armageddon is getting promoted to governor of Saltytown which they control 146%
Yevgeni Prigozhin conquered Soledar, nor Surovikin. If anything, Prigozhin will be the new Minister of defence soon, he is a very competent man.
frontline only moved after DVD pulled up though
>forgot to mention the VDV reinforcements that cleaned up gayners mess.
If not for actual competent soldiers, prigozhin would have to make another video crying about not being able to advance
>Prigozhin will be the new Minister of defence soon
that'll be a sad day for the russian armed forces that happens - then again, every day is a sad one for the russian armed forces so...
Russians continuing the glorious, century old tradition of "and then it got worse."
>Yevgeni Prigozhin conquered Soledar
Mate, there's still Ukrainians in Soledar.
Yep, there are a few hundreds of them and they're completely surrounded by Wagner forces, Wagner has already send them an ultimatum to surrender immediately or be liquidated in a day.
nonono, theyre just holding out till iron man comes swooping in with nato you know! lol
You don't get to give your leadership nicknames like "General Armageddon" and then insult other people for anything Marvel-related.
"General Armageddon" makes Doctor Doom seem like a normal name.
Armageddoutofhere lol
More like there's thousnads of them and they still control half the town with open supply lines.
Wagner lied. And this time not evne the russian MoD is buying it. Shocking, I know.
Oh no did terror bombing with missiles not send Ukraine down to its knees begging for mercy? I guess Putin lost his patience or General Armageddon got caught in the whirlwind of Kremlin politics and wasn't good enough at sucking up to Putin.
Send in General Apocalypse!
>General Armagetout
oh shit so this is why cumchuggers have been seething so much lately!
In mid October vatniks were swearing on their mother's saggy, veiny, national geographic-tier breasts that this guy's promotion was going to be the turning point in the war. The gloves would finally come off, the the eyebrows raised, the cauldron boiling over, and whatever homosexual expressions they comfort themselves with. He didn't even last 3 months.
well
But but Mein putler what about the fact all those Ukrainians who had to switch to power saving mode because of the power cuts? Just think about how hard it was to see their screens with the brightness so low by default!!!
>Surovikin was demoted to deputy
He hasn't achieve anything much since he was appointed months ago.
Wasted a lot of missiles to not much effect other than provoking the west to provide unlimited air defence gear.
Withdrew from Kherson, could maybe spin that as inevitable but it's not an achievement that anyone's going to praise even though it was actually pretty well done.
Arguably reformed some combat units by slotting in conscripts into contrakti units to get better on-the-job training but mostly just screwed up mobilisation.
There's no big victories in there, nothing to keep you secure in the in-fighting of the Kremlin snakepit.
>Withdrew from Kherson, could maybe spin that as inevitable but it's not an achievement
ironically this actually IS a decent achievement
russian forces on the western bank were fricked, there was no way for them to hold it
but a complete moron in charge could have tried to deny reality until they were ALL surrounded and destroyed/captured
as things went, they managed to withdraw most of their units in decent order
>ironically this actually IS a decent achievement
>as things went, they managed to withdraw most of their units in decent order
Hence why I said:
>but it's not an achievement that anyone's going to praise even though it was actually pretty well done
It was an achievement but not one that's going to be praised in the Kremlin, because nobody there knows shit and they just want the appearance of victory.
ah, I fail at reading
carry on then, your opinion is objectively correct and at least you got a (you) out of it
meh, we're just agreeing but you misread. Read the full sentence next time anon ^_^
It was a fairly skilfully executed withdrawal, could have been better but by the standards of the Russian army, it was decent and the most orderly manoeuvre they've performed in the war so far, including everything done after that too.
He built fall-back lines on the left bank for defence-in-depth which are holding even now, I don't know how hard AFU are pressing them but there's been no significant advance on the left bank.
He's reformed units which were demolished.
These are all solid accomplishments but the only thing that's going to count for shit in the Kremlin are trophies. Actual hard work on the fundamentals can't be shown on TV, are worthless in the halls of power and although necessary for any future victory, will go entirely without credit.
The irony is that demoting your commander and appointing a deputy to be his new boss is exactly how Zaluzhniy came to be commander-in-chief. Maybe this is cargo-cult reshuffling where they saw it worked great for Ukraine but didn't understand why it was done (it was the demoted guy's idea because building an army and fighting a war are different jobs needing different people).
A P O L O G I ZE
What is the american equivilant of this?
Of Gerasimov's previous position? The Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff.
>What is the american equivilant of this?
In modern times, generals get recalled to Washington and usually end up resigning.
In WWII it was handled much better I think, a neverserved historian did a whole talk on it at a naval event which was really well received. Basically in WWII, theatre commanders were recalled and reassigned all the time, when they made a big mistake, when they started getting too hyped or confident or losing their shit, or just if they seemed tired. Sometimes because the war had changed phase and it looked like another general had more experience or a more appropriate personality or career or attitude.
In WWII, this had zero effect on their subsequent career and they were put in charge of training some new army or managing an occupation or building supply lines, then when something came up somewhere, they got reassigned back into the action again.
Found it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AxZWxxZ2JGE
There is three deputies, now for the three axis of attack.
One for existing front and new push from south. One for new front to karkhiv. I E for new front through belerous