What is the tactical advantage of going innawoods with an e-scooter? They make decent offroad ones now like Bakcou (top speed 25mph) and it seems less gay than a bicycle. Just scootin and shootin.
What is the tactical advantage of going innawoods with an e-scooter? They make decent offroad ones now like Bakcou (top speed 25mph) and it seems less gay than a bicycle. Just scootin and shootin.
try $2000 and up
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>less gay than a bicycle
how?
Bicycles makes you sit down like a cuck, on these you stand and can sling a rifle like normal, then you just hit the brakes skrrrrrrt and pop pop pop.
>Bicycles makes you sit down like a cuck
>t. never biked
A bike is objectively superior for long distance *because* it affords you the luxury of sitting.
We are talking about recon and dabbin' on bikegays here, not 'luxuries'. Pinching your manhood is hardly a luxury in the field.
Standing uses more energy than sitting, you will have to spend more time scavenge, hunt those calories
Peddling uses more energy than scootin’
>checkm8 peddlepansy
call me when you figure out how to connect a gearbox to your leg scoots
Nobody looks cool on a scooter. You just look like an oversized kid who can't afford a car, or like you're too afraid of getting off the footpath to use a bicycle.
As for off-road performance, bigger diameter wheels = better, always. They can roll over rocks and ditches more easily. A scooter like in OP would be horrible for actual off-roading compared to an e-bike.
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>boomer walks over logs
>superior off-road capabilities
>scooter
OHNONONONO AAAAAAAHAHAHHAAHHAAH
I've heard of bicycle infantry, I've never heard of scooter infantry.
>hit rock
>go flying
>if its even fast enough
I want a tactical basket on mine, too. Could toss a 3 day pack in there and use it as a support stand.
That's literally an e-bike without the parts that make it usable after the battery dies.
20 miles capacity. Stash it, walk it, whatever. If you are going further than 10 miles out of you AO you just have to count it as a pair of expendable boots to get you there in perfect stealth.
But why would I choose to use this over the thing where these issues aren't even a concern? It's just objectively worse.
Because you can easily jump off it and walk it and steady a rifle much more readily than with a bike.
Can you? Or are you just imagining that you can? Jumping off a bike isn't exactly a challenge. Anyway, we're getting off track. I wanna circle back to:
>it seems less gay than a bicycle.
In what world is the fricking Scooter Corps not the lamest, gayest fricking shit imaginable?
Impractical as frick but only gay because FR.
If you going so slow that you can jump off and not eat dirt, you should be walking. If you're expecting contact while transporting, there's a vehicle for that, called an APC. Getting ambushed while on a bike or a scooter is going have a high likelihood of you dying before you can ready a rifle.
You need to stop using this thread template if it's not about Ukraine, I was ready with to blast some anti-vatnik memes but noticed just in time.
>ukraine
>APCs
Let's keep it in the real world.
I like these because they are cheaper than their e-bikes, too, which are just ridiculous.
Do you have a real world use for an offroad e-scooter? If you do then it's probably not in a warzone and nobody is shooting at you. Therefore the e-bike is the safer, "superior" choice because you're less likely to die from face planting off a tree branch.
>blast down logging roads
>silently scoot
>nvgs
>slowing ride silently instead of walking
>like boomer says in vid, use it to assist and carry weight uphill
>break laws and ride it around town and parks for fun
Seems like a pretty cool thing even for a lazy camper to scout around with, sucks it's only 20 miles range.
"Fun" is a perfectly valid reason to want an e-scooter. But when "tactical" gets involved it brings up a lot of competition. If you have friends a buggy is the better choice. When solo, a quad bike would be the most tactical choice because of its high carry capacity, stability and the fact that you can bring up a rifle without getting off it. Real world SF used quadbikes in the early days of the Afghan invasion. They would drive them up mountains to get lasing positions for airstrikes. They're proper all terrain vehicles. The combustion engine ones have long range and aren't even very loud.
Yeah but we don't really have access to their milspec quiet diesel quads or dirtbikes. Dirtbikes can be heard from far away. There was a small dirtbike with fat tires that was low powered and made for going through thick terrain and logs which I forgot it's name.. R-something. The scooter reminds me of an electric version of that. I'm mostly looking at silent conveyances for nighttime larping.
>we don't really have access to their milspec quiet diesel quads or dirtbikes
That's actually not true. Extra quiet mufflers that the military puts on ATVs are publicly available. They're bought by park rangers and shit. Cost around $160. You can also get an electric quad if you want to be super quiet.
>silent conveyances for nighttime larping.
Considering how night vision restricts your field of view to the point of making walking over rocks a challenge, it would probably be very dangerous to use it while riding a scooter offroad. I'd want something with the stability of a car for that.
>There was a small dirtbike with fat tires that was low powered and made for going through thick terrain and logs which I forgot it's name.. R-something.
Rokon. It's a 2wd motorcycle and these are legitimately already used by militaries around the world in roles that used to be done by mules.
How many Russians have you seen die to artillery fire because they are moving at a slow predictable walking pace
The ones I've seen hit by arty were in stationary positions that drones could spot and call in, with the kill chain lasting many minutes. Others that were walking had an armed drone that would follow and wait for an opportunity before attacking with a dropped mortar. By the way, if Russian soldiers are seen walking, it's because they're patrolling an area to guard it or search for contacts. That's something you don't want to rush into. For actual transport to a location they will use trucks, APCs and stolen cars.
Losing out on Pedaling, which gives you 100-200 miles daily range is too great a drawback
>not a Segway
It's fricking 2024, why do you need to occupy your hands
thas a lot of samegayging
The only conclusion i can draw here is that there is a massive conspiracy to make our military as lame and gay as possible
Still not silent. An atv brings up size and weight constraints on transporting it, whereas a bike can be put on most car racks. An atv you can't exactly engage in 'stalking' with the same efficiency, you are higher up above the ground and literally a sitting target.
>An atv brings up size and weight constraints on transporting it, whereas a bike can be put on most car racks
Now you're driving your car to a location over a paved road. That defeats the point. An ATV can also do that.
>An atv you can't exactly engage in 'stalking'
You can't stalk anything but a deaf and blind person when in a vehicle. In military operations where shooting is expected, unarmored transportation is meant to get infantry to a point where they will dismount and continue on foot. Stalking a human is done by staying low, far away and in cover. The aforementioned Afghanistan JTAC missions, where the object was to climb a mountain and use it for recon/target designation, are the ones where you stay with your vehicle all the way.
>you are higher up above the ground
A person seated on a quadbike is lower profile than a man standing bolt upright on a scooter.
If it was me vs a park ranger on an atv I could be right up his ass on my scooter in no time. You think about that. I'm thinking about it. And I'm thinking about them beanz.
20-30km range
you're better off on a bike
>20-30km range
This, I use them around here because there are share e-scooters you hire with an app and I don't have a bike.
They can barely get me to the big shopping centre a few suburbs away and usually won't have enough charge to get me back.
Plus, if I cut through a park, they're really rough on unseal surfaces and hellish on cobblestones. They couldn't do gravel at all.
And of course, you'd need a solar base-station to charge the thing.
A regular MTB is really the way to go for innawoods dicking around, if you want more practical long-range transport, get a touring version of a CX. Something like the Surley Trucker series.
>>>/n/ wll have a thread for the right bike for off-road camping but they're going to give you the same answer.
>MTB
You know that means main battle tank, right?
>MTB
>(M)ain (T)attle (B)ank
dyslexia's a b***h
Based dyslexia anon?
>MBT
MAIN BATTLE TANK
>MTB
MOTORIZED TWO-WHEEL BICYCLE
>an e-scooter seems less gay than a bicycle.
Have you for real never tried to ride a scooter off pavement when you were 12? Jesus Christ. This fricking board.
The tactical advantage is you aren't fatigued when you get to your destination. The disadvantages outweigh that pretty heavily. One being recharging and having to push it unless you want to ditch it.
Bicycle is the way to go. The wheel diameter on scooters is useless for off road, and unsuitable on fire roads.
I mean it looks more gay than a bicycle. But, shit, beats walking. Even of the thing dies, every foot it drove is one you didn't have to walk.
>What is the tactical advantage of going innawoods with an e-scooter?
It's faster than running.
You can carry it in back pack, charge for 30 mins at any home/store/building with electricity
You can travel 20 miles per ride (walking @ 4 mph would take 5 hours)
So its 5 hours walking or 1 hour (escooter) + 30 min charging
years ago some dude sort of snuck up on me on one of those single fat wheel electric type skateboard things. He came over a grass bearm and came flying down it. I stopped him and said WTH is that that thing has so many applications its not funny. YOu can lay on it and be a little over the curb in height. Oh and did I say Silent! It was frick you silent
Those are OneWheels. Notorious for cutting out at higher speeds, or for no reason at all, and either smashing your collarbone, your shoulder, your elbow or your wrist or any combination of them. And for the shitty business practices of the manufacturer, with literal booby traps designed into the control board that brick the board if you try to repair anything yourself, like intentionally switched polarity of the red/black battery cables for instance.
>OneWheels
bad ass
This reminds me of the Mandalorian and other shows. People park their starship and then have to walk to the destination. Like guys why don't you have a speeder in that ship. Or a battery powered scooter or whatever. Empyrion did it right having a light weight motorcycle you can fit in a backpack or whatever.
That's what Darth Maul did. Parked in the middle of nowhere and used drones to search for his target, then rode in on a speeder.
Rouge one was the worst for this
>surprise raid
>parks 1 mile away and gives time to hide
got the bikegays triggered, good job op
I'm talking about these new 'hunting' scooters. They are awesome, you just hop on and hop off them. They are frick you silent. You could ride along a roastie and literally tackle her, much easier than a bike. One application. You could just hop off or shoot from it, or slink through the woods at a slightly faster pace with zero effort. It's based.
That's it.
Heard you from a mile away you're dead and plus you scared off all the roasties
Surely an electric scooter is a liability? If it breaks down or runs out of battery it takes a while to repair or refuel.
Just don't have the same problem with a bicycle. Takes barely any time to repair, and your effective range is as much as you can handle
woods? lmao
i've seen bikers fly headfirst into trees, "e-boaders" lose teeth as they bit the trail, every fricking dumbass bringing oh-so-clever toys into the forest.
go for it, cool guy! stream it on the youtube!
Anon e-scooters are the most moronic possible option for going "innawoods" and the fact that you even consider it makes me question your intelligence.
>tiny wheels
>almost no ground clearance
>nowhere to put baggage
>battery life
Just of the top of my head. Don't be a zoomer cuck and get a decent bike. E-Bike even, if you're a fat frick.
>get a bunch of cheap KLR650's or XR650's
>install custom mufflers packed to frick to try and eliminate noise like cartels do with their trucks
>paint them OD green
Done
>What is the tactical advantage of
imagine the amount of seething required to make this post
ATV or dirt bikes shit on these homosexual things
Small wheels is a major drawback off-road
Just needs to come in multicam
Obviously you need a generator or home base but 20 miles is 20 miles
These puppies are battle tested, Ukrainian soldiers have posted videos of themselves getting around on them on the battlefield
Surreal
But no tactical basket
samegay
those one wheels are sick but too risky if wearing nvg plus you gotta wear protective gear most likely
samegay again
these things are amazing except for the whole faceplant thing
I own a V10F and a V11 and have well over 10.000 miles on them combined and have never faceplanted, despite being well over the maximum weight limit of either of them (120kg). But they are only good for for asphalt and hard packed dirt roads. Deep mud or gravel, loose sand, ice or deeply rutted roads are admittedly almost impossible terrain for them. In addition it takes some talent and quite some time to get good on them.
Frick you homosexual e scooters are for gays and you look like a little girl when you ride them.
I have a mtb and I take my guns and ammo to the range... because I can actually put them somewhere? You know, like the reason you would use a vehicle at all? To carry more stuff? Dumbshoe
Wow, biker, you really showed me.
Explain, clearly and concisely, why an electric scooter is superior to an electric bicycle. Points will be deducted for:
>It's easier to jump off
>It's easier to shoulder a rifle while riding
>It's less gay(lol. lmao.)
Are bike troops infantry or cavalry?
>What is the tactical advantage of going innawoods with an e-scooter?
Silent and rapid reconnaissance.