What is the future of naval warfare?

How does it look to you?

  1. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous
    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous
  2. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The near future is being underwater or becoming hypersonic food.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >I am vindicated

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/O8WV9C9.png

      >I am vindicated

      >submarine
      >cruiser
      >aircraft carrier
      >all in one
      the future is in the past

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Surely someone is developing some variety of the sub aircraft carrier today

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Nah. It's kinda like the battlecarrier, it might seem a good idea at first glance but then you realize that it's a whole bloody lot of extra expense and compromises to add something to your ship that will be of no use whatsoever whenever your carrier wants to do carrier things.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Then maybe not planes but drones, then? Something like the switchblade but scaled up to fit a VLS

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >Then maybe not planes but drones, then? Something like the switchblade but scaled up to fit a VLS

              China is working on this.
              https://asiatimes.com/2022/11/chinas-flying-submarine-drones-the-future-of-warfare/

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              That gets us into a maybe I'd say. We're not in any way making a sub carrier here, just giving the missile subs some new ordnance, so far so good. I'm not so sure about directly controlled drones though since the sub probably doesn't want to hang around and broadcast the signal to do so. Maybe if your enemy is polite enough to let you keep your communication satellites...

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                See something with the AI and sensors of the Loyal Wingman but compressed.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Or hell, maybe not even compressed. Idk how the dimensions of those tubes are

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              ...you mean a tomahawk
              the thing that submarines already have

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >What is reconnaissance

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Nah. It's kinda like the battlecarrier, it might seem a good idea at first glance but then you realize that it's a whole bloody lot of extra expense and compromises to add something to your ship that will be of no use whatsoever whenever your carrier wants to do carrier things.

          Submersible aircraft carriers are already obsolete. The US has antigrav tech that they got from the ayys which creates a space time bubble around aircraft that allows them to travel through both air and water without resistance. No need for a submersible carrier if your fighters themselves are submersible.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Well, technically, anything since 688-I has carried a small air component in its TLAMs...

          Slightly more seriously, I expect to see more UAVs--primarily disposable, but possibly also some optionally-recoverable ones--as the VPM enters service, with its increased flexibility over traditional SSN VLS.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Sounds like quite the powerful boat.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >muh hypersonics

      Literally a thing since the 70's and yet this meme hasn't done jack shit to make surface vessels any less useable.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Or aircraft food. Or drone food.
      The reason the US stop putting together destroyers was because they're obsolete.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The reason the us stopped putting together destroyers is because there's no major naval threat to convince congress to fund new destroyers.

  3. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Fleets of unmanned ships/subs crammed full of hundreds or thousands of missiles. Carriers escorted by unmanned vessels bristling with laser point defense systems with reactors to meet the obscene power draw.

  4. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Same as everything else bro, drones

  5. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I expect a lot of countries sailing around with mini carriers due to the proliferation of the F-35 vtol version. Japan already has 2 'helicopter carriers' that just so happen to be F-35 compatible with a few quick changes as well a few more under construction.

  6. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Missile Spam>Aircraft Spam>Point Defence Spam
    Only question is whether the missile spam will be from subs or ships.

  7. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It looks like guided missile battleships are coming, whether we like it or not. Surface combatants keep getting bigger and bigger. The US destroyers have reached the 10,000 ton mark, meanwhile the Japanese are building those 20,000 ton monsters. I think DDGX is going to be even bigger than the Burke IIIs and whenever the CGX shows up it'll be even bigger than that.
    Now they won't be called "guided missile battleships" but for all intents and purposes that's what they'll be. They'll be large, fleet based, surface combatants, with the highest survivability and offensive capability of any ships ever seen. Instead of steel armor, they'll have incredibly powerful radars hooked to multitudes of air defenses, making them incredibly resistant against missile spam and drone swarms.
    We'll also see an increase in small drone carriers as drones become more capable. Vtol light carriers will continue to gain popularity as well.
    Drone subs will become more common as well. Likely becoming important parts of fleet operations. They'll make good littoral defense as well. I don't think they'll be operating alone though. So normal crewed subs will still see service.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Anon frigates will be the norm becasue manpower won't matter as you can heavy automation instead of crew men

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Its gonna be big to fit powerplants, weapons, and air defenses. The crew complement is a non issue.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The primary reason to get bigger isn't to carry more missiles, but to carry larger radars for ABM work. A dozen or two of those would be plenty, even for the USN.

  8. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Subs, transport and legacy carriers. The rest will be gone

  9. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Flying subs that carry aircraft

  10. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Spam of missiles and AA. Probably lots of drone or mostly drone ships.

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