>What if this had happened?
nothing happens
iwo jima was in 1944, way too late to affect the course of the war
iwo jima itself wasnt strictly necessary to begin with
>What would be the next step for the US in the Pacific?
the capture of okinawa and then the end of the war
>iwo jima itself wasnt strictly necessary to begin with
Then why so many Marines died in this fight?
Couldn't the US Navy blocked and bypassed the island entirely?
the strategic necessity of iwo jima was questioned even before the invasion and has been repeatedly argued whether it was necessary or not started pretty much as soon as the war was over
the strategic background for the invasion was nominally to prevent japanese fighters from intercepting B-29 flights
but this was likely a non issue due to constant fuel shortages and the near-total collapse of the japanese navy
the only reason they were on that island instead of bypassing it was genuinely due to lack of planning
with commanders creating reasons to justify the plans they already had
Airfields and it's also not a bad thing to murder Japanese soldiers. They moved in fighter and bomber squadrons pretty soon after. But yeah after the war a lot of doubt was put on it because, while yeah it did help, it also wasn't a good idea with the number of US casualties and the time spent taking it.
Next time the USN/USMC have to do something similar they'll likely drop an unholy number of bunker busters on the thing and drown it in smoke. Land some marines at the end to clear it up.
>does the military sometimes expend a lot of lives on locations that aren't strategically vital
No anon, senior military command is flawless and has never made a mistake, that is why the side that starts a war always wins, the commanders knew they would win and they were right as always.
>Couldn't the US Navy blocked and bypassed the island entirely?
How much of this is true for the rest of the pacific campaign? Like, at minimum, how many islands should the us have captured?
>fricking iwo jima being the turning point
An actual feasible one would have been Midway. If it was a complete curb stomp and the USN lost all carriers + half of their cruisers while the IJN lost none or like one light cruiser, things may have been actually different for the next year or so. But by Iwo Jima it was over.
Assuming that 'send in the next wave' isn't an option for whatever reason, Iwo Jima would just be bypassed and reduced to an open-air prison camp like Truk or Rabaul was.
It was ogre for Japan by that point anyway. The US kept pushing to get a better position after the war, not because of any threat the nips still realistically had left.
Reminder that the US were the bad guys and they should have just stayed out of WWII in the east.
If not for US meddling China would not exist, Japan would rule them with an iron fist and prevent them from being godless bugmen who eat gutter oil
Absolute moronation
The US is easily the most degenerate society imagined by man
You've got underage boys giving blowjobs to married men on street corners for their next hit of fent
What does Imperial Japan have that comes even close to that?
>You've got underage boys giving blowjobs to married men on street corners for their next hit of fent
ignoring the fact this is a fricking disgusting thing to come up with, doesn't this better describe russia?
2 months ago
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Never been to a blue state I see
2 months ago
Anonymous
you are mentally ill. someone needs to check your pc.
2 months ago
Anonymous
mf literally described every part of russia that's not the rich part of Moscow that comerade tucker was dragged through
You don't actually believe that do you?
The US is the sole reason China grow from being a bunch of starving dirt farmers
They gave them all kinds of special exceptions and deals in hopes they'd become friendly like Japan did
other way around
the IJN was the only actually good arm of their military
while the IJA was, at best, a thoroughly average force that got its reputation clobbering chinamen and colonial garrisons
it did happen
then we replaced it with our flag
>What if this had happened?
nothing happens
iwo jima was in 1944, way too late to affect the course of the war
iwo jima itself wasnt strictly necessary to begin with
>What would be the next step for the US in the Pacific?
the capture of okinawa and then the end of the war
>iwo jima itself wasnt strictly necessary to begin with
Then why so many Marines died in this fight?
Couldn't the US Navy blocked and bypassed the island entirely?
the strategic necessity of iwo jima was questioned even before the invasion and has been repeatedly argued whether it was necessary or not started pretty much as soon as the war was over
the strategic background for the invasion was nominally to prevent japanese fighters from intercepting B-29 flights
but this was likely a non issue due to constant fuel shortages and the near-total collapse of the japanese navy
the only reason they were on that island instead of bypassing it was genuinely due to lack of planning
with commanders creating reasons to justify the plans they already had
Airfields and it's also not a bad thing to murder Japanese soldiers. They moved in fighter and bomber squadrons pretty soon after. But yeah after the war a lot of doubt was put on it because, while yeah it did help, it also wasn't a good idea with the number of US casualties and the time spent taking it.
Next time the USN/USMC have to do something similar they'll likely drop an unholy number of bunker busters on the thing and drown it in smoke. Land some marines at the end to clear it up.
>does the military sometimes expend a lot of lives on locations that aren't strategically vital
No anon, senior military command is flawless and has never made a mistake, that is why the side that starts a war always wins, the commanders knew they would win and they were right as always.
The Pacific was a critical and commercial failure
>Couldn't the US Navy blocked and bypassed the island entirely?
How much of this is true for the rest of the pacific campaign? Like, at minimum, how many islands should the us have captured?
>iwo jima was in 1944
>fricking iwo jima being the turning point
An actual feasible one would have been Midway. If it was a complete curb stomp and the USN lost all carriers + half of their cruisers while the IJN lost none or like one light cruiser, things may have been actually different for the next year or so. But by Iwo Jima it was over.
Assuming that 'send in the next wave' isn't an option for whatever reason, Iwo Jima would just be bypassed and reduced to an open-air prison camp like Truk or Rabaul was.
Air raids on the Japanese mainland become more difficult
it did happen moron why do you think we had to put our own flag up
It was ogre for Japan by that point anyway. The US kept pushing to get a better position after the war, not because of any threat the nips still realistically had left.
Reminder that the US were the bad guys and they should have just stayed out of WWII in the east.
If not for US meddling China would not exist, Japan would rule them with an iron fist and prevent them from being godless bugmen who eat gutter oil
China under Japanese control would have been even greater threat.
Why? Japan are the good guys.
They're the only civilized people in the world
Yeah, once we civilized them. Imperial Japan was one of the worst, most degenerate societies imagined by man.
Absolute moronation
The US is easily the most degenerate society imagined by man
You've got underage boys giving blowjobs to married men on street corners for their next hit of fent
What does Imperial Japan have that comes even close to that?
>You've got underage boys giving blowjobs to married men on street corners for their next hit of fent
ignoring the fact this is a fricking disgusting thing to come up with, doesn't this better describe russia?
Never been to a blue state I see
you are mentally ill. someone needs to check your pc.
mf literally described every part of russia that's not the rich part of Moscow that comerade tucker was dragged through
>What does Japan have that comes even close to that?
Frick off.
>If not for US meddling China would not exist
It was lack of US support that ultimately led to China being the way it is now.
You don't actually believe that do you?
The US is the sole reason China grow from being a bunch of starving dirt farmers
They gave them all kinds of special exceptions and deals in hopes they'd become friendly like Japan did
I'm guessing anon meant lack of support for the nationalist during the Chinese civil war.
IJA was a formidable enemy once it had perfected their doctrine against the US
Meanwhile, what was wrong with the IJN?
other way around
the IJN was the only actually good arm of their military
while the IJA was, at best, a thoroughly average force that got its reputation clobbering chinamen and colonial garrisons
Nuke the asiatic.