What if this had happened? What would be the next step for the US in the Pacific?

What if this had happened?
What would be the next step for the US in the Pacific?

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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    it did happen
    then we replaced it with our flag

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >What if this had happened?
    nothing happens
    iwo jima was in 1944, way too late to affect the course of the war
    iwo jima itself wasnt strictly necessary to begin with

    >What would be the next step for the US in the Pacific?
    the capture of okinawa and then the end of the war

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >iwo jima itself wasnt strictly necessary to begin with
      Then why so many Marines died in this fight?
      Couldn't the US Navy blocked and bypassed the island entirely?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        the strategic necessity of iwo jima was questioned even before the invasion and has been repeatedly argued whether it was necessary or not started pretty much as soon as the war was over

        the strategic background for the invasion was nominally to prevent japanese fighters from intercepting B-29 flights
        but this was likely a non issue due to constant fuel shortages and the near-total collapse of the japanese navy

        the only reason they were on that island instead of bypassing it was genuinely due to lack of planning
        with commanders creating reasons to justify the plans they already had

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Airfields and it's also not a bad thing to murder Japanese soldiers. They moved in fighter and bomber squadrons pretty soon after. But yeah after the war a lot of doubt was put on it because, while yeah it did help, it also wasn't a good idea with the number of US casualties and the time spent taking it.

        Next time the USN/USMC have to do something similar they'll likely drop an unholy number of bunker busters on the thing and drown it in smoke. Land some marines at the end to clear it up.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >does the military sometimes expend a lot of lives on locations that aren't strategically vital
        No anon, senior military command is flawless and has never made a mistake, that is why the side that starts a war always wins, the commanders knew they would win and they were right as always.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        The Pacific was a critical and commercial failure

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >Couldn't the US Navy blocked and bypassed the island entirely?
        How much of this is true for the rest of the pacific campaign? Like, at minimum, how many islands should the us have captured?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >iwo jima was in 1944

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >fricking iwo jima being the turning point
    An actual feasible one would have been Midway. If it was a complete curb stomp and the USN lost all carriers + half of their cruisers while the IJN lost none or like one light cruiser, things may have been actually different for the next year or so. But by Iwo Jima it was over.

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Assuming that 'send in the next wave' isn't an option for whatever reason, Iwo Jima would just be bypassed and reduced to an open-air prison camp like Truk or Rabaul was.

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Air raids on the Japanese mainland become more difficult

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    it did happen moron why do you think we had to put our own flag up

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    It was ogre for Japan by that point anyway. The US kept pushing to get a better position after the war, not because of any threat the nips still realistically had left.

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Reminder that the US were the bad guys and they should have just stayed out of WWII in the east.
    If not for US meddling China would not exist, Japan would rule them with an iron fist and prevent them from being godless bugmen who eat gutter oil

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      China under Japanese control would have been even greater threat.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Why? Japan are the good guys.
        They're the only civilized people in the world

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah, once we civilized them. Imperial Japan was one of the worst, most degenerate societies imagined by man.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Absolute moronation
            The US is easily the most degenerate society imagined by man
            You've got underage boys giving blowjobs to married men on street corners for their next hit of fent
            What does Imperial Japan have that comes even close to that?

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >You've got underage boys giving blowjobs to married men on street corners for their next hit of fent
              ignoring the fact this is a fricking disgusting thing to come up with, doesn't this better describe russia?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Never been to a blue state I see

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                you are mentally ill. someone needs to check your pc.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                mf literally described every part of russia that's not the rich part of Moscow that comerade tucker was dragged through

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >What does Japan have that comes even close to that?

              Frick off.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >If not for US meddling China would not exist
      It was lack of US support that ultimately led to China being the way it is now.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        You don't actually believe that do you?
        The US is the sole reason China grow from being a bunch of starving dirt farmers
        They gave them all kinds of special exceptions and deals in hopes they'd become friendly like Japan did

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          I'm guessing anon meant lack of support for the nationalist during the Chinese civil war.

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    IJA was a formidable enemy once it had perfected their doctrine against the US
    Meanwhile, what was wrong with the IJN?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      other way around
      the IJN was the only actually good arm of their military
      while the IJA was, at best, a thoroughly average force that got its reputation clobbering chinamen and colonial garrisons

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Nuke the asiatic.

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