So they're gonna be deployed against right wing insurrectionists?
https://i.imgur.com/Py1kSQE.jpg
ultimately necessary as Black personhomosexuals continue to escalate their moronic arms race against the state instead of participating in it to try and improve society, though i am not happy about it.
newsflash morons: if you don't want to live under tyranny, go vote for whoever you believe in. your cabin in the woods won't save you.
I wonder if GPTs have freed up a lot of their resources, enabling them to shill much harder.
It's quite stiff here so they must be afraid. Flak over target and all that.
>We must militarize the police to suppress the people for democracy >The police are always right and the government is unquestionable
Yeah, sure bud.
This is to protect the standing regime, not to protect democracy.
It's been a slow build-up since Obama and police militarization policy.
This is an authoritarian move that would not be out of place in a despotic third world country.
Yet, by some unexpected grace, the police continue to volunteer for Patriot militias. I live in a rural part of the US and know the local police, they are in the militias as well. This is relevant to weapons, the military, and the militarization of the police.
So, this ends up backfiring. This equipment ends up in the hands of police, who are now a big part of these anti-government militias. Same with actual veterans with combat training, they started this whole thing. So, it ends up benefiting us. It's like Sun Tzu said, why destroy what can be captured? Our cause is true. The cops join our ranks on their own volition out of love for their country, we don't need to persuade or deceive.
If this regime wants to try and run our beloved USA like a Latin American dictatorship, then expect insurgent freedom fighters like in a Latin American dictatorship. Law enforcement, veterans, even active military who are prepared for revolutionary war. Expect righteous revolution.
This brutish approach to civil unrest reveals an uneasy status quo and a corrupt government that is clearly concerned for its own survival above the interests of the people. This is how it dies, they are digging themselves into a hole that only serves as a grave for their dying machine. The harder they fight against the reality of the situation, the sharper the truth becomes.
Things could be so much better. This nation could be peaceful, prosperous, and strong. Instead of endless war, growing poverty, and instability. This nation can be greater than it ever was before, but not under the decay of zionist occupation.
>Yet, by some unexpected grace, the police continue to volunteer for Patriot militias. I live in a rural part of the US and know the local police, they are in the militias as well.
It's posts like these that remind me of the times when some right-wing Meal Team Six snatch-and-grab "militia" trained in high caloric destruction gets dispatched from their HQ in Golden Corral to terminate their nearest ice cream section with extreme prejudice, and they get immediately busted and it turns out they were part of cop-run training camp the whole time, and they can't even begin to fathom what it all means.
>We must militarize the police to suppress the people for democracy >The police are always right and the government is unquestionable
Yeah, sure bud.
This is to protect the standing regime, not to protect democracy.
It's been a slow build-up since Obama and police militarization policy.
This is an authoritarian move that would not be out of place in a despotic third world country.
Yet, by some unexpected grace, the police continue to volunteer for Patriot militias. I live in a rural part of the US and know the local police, they are in the militias as well. This is relevant to weapons, the military, and the militarization of the police.
So, this ends up backfiring. This equipment ends up in the hands of police, who are now a big part of these anti-government militias. Same with actual veterans with combat training, they started this whole thing. So, it ends up benefiting us. It's like Sun Tzu said, why destroy what can be captured? Our cause is true. The cops join our ranks on their own volition out of love for their country, we don't need to persuade or deceive.
If this regime wants to try and run our beloved USA like a Latin American dictatorship, then expect insurgent freedom fighters like in a Latin American dictatorship. Law enforcement, veterans, even active military who are prepared for revolutionary war. Expect righteous revolution.
Reminder that the J6 PF Black folk were forty federal agents and five patsies.
>since Obama
Frick I hate zoomers. News flash this shit has been going on since at least the GWOT, which was Dubya and his dumb-ass neocon cronies.
https://i.imgur.com/zowlpJ7.jpg
What does /k/ think of the militarization of police?
Stupid as frick since the police are staffed by barely literate high school dropouts with a GED and 3 months of community college training. Businesses want their scarecrows to have bigger and badder looking weapons thinking it'll stop looters.
>News flash this shit has been going on since at least the GWOT
It has been going on since the federal government tried to enforce prohibition. It has continued with the anti-mob FBI and forced integration.
Waco and Ruby Ridge were not new, they were just well reported. The war on drugs is all about giving police unconstitutional powers to trespass, spy, and steal lawful property without judicial oversight or due process.
>If you want to get really spicy to piss off the boomers, arguably Reagan
True. Reagan was elected in part because of the 1960s-70s Dems soft-on-crime-revolving-door-prison policies and police militarization has been increasing ever since.
Also Posse Commitus allows the federal military to defend US borders. Arresting border hoppers is not a law enforcement task, it is a sovereignty preserving federal task that the federal government is required to do in article 4 of the constitution.
>"OUR" Democracy... >Every time I hear that, my blood boils. >Democracy is democracy. It belongs to no one. To claim ownership of a millennia-old political concept reeks of
Agreed.. >bourgeois
ooof get in the oven commie homosexual homosexual
I find the ongoing fracas and sliding in the pacific coast funny, as people that live in cities like Seattle always pretend everyone that doesn't vote with them is unintelligent and unsophisticated. Fitting it is that their culture births something strikingly reminiscent to a film about the degeneration of society into something little better than proto-morlocks.
>What do you think happens when society has no law enforcement
The same thing that happened nearly everywhere in world pre 1900. Life went along swimmingly
>nooooo you can’t have societal cohesion AND technological progress
Those aren’t mutually exclusive and I’d love for you to explain why cops were responsible for the technological progress over the past 100 or so years
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>societal cohesion
You've got some serious fricking rose-tinted glasses on for a time period from long before you were alive.
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>I’d love for you to explain why cops were responsible for the technological progress over the past 100 or so years
Nothing? That was your implication
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Nah you are just a spastic. What I'm >implying
is you are moronic for looking at the pre 1900's as a "better time".
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>Enjoy your septicaemia, homosexual.
You didn’t imply shit. You outright said it. Man I should have clocked your backpedal considering how fast it was
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You somehow didn't grasp that was sarcasm, even though the implying was in greentext? Are you actually moronic anon.
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>it was just a joke
If you were joking and it was sarcasm you would have said that as your next reply. You wouldn’t say I had rose tinted classes and then double down and call the 1900s a bad time.
>pic
Anon... Loose soil on cardboard is basically standard procedure for small, educational pop-up planting workshops. It's a cheap material, lets you easily gather the dirt you've brought there to demo on, and it doesn't harm the turf below.
Just like a school desk at math class isn't meant to be a supercomputer, a messy temporary planting spot used for educational demonstration isn't ever meant to be a farm.
we unironically need a centralized national gendarmerie
At the same time get rid of municipal police forces and replace them with a centralized state one, and draft private citizens to do tours of duty as police. Only have the gendarmerie armed, and require at least a bachelor's to enlist
>primarily responsible for internal security, riot control, counter-terrorism, disaster response, law enforcement and maritime rights protection as well as providing support to the US Army during wartime.
You'll just get nasty girls who don't give a shit about the area they're "protecting and serving." Cops should all be local. If anything there's less reason for state police to exist.
You are insane. The problem is not fixed by trying to create some super organisation responsible for everything out of randomly forcefully drafted individuals.
I trust the state to hold police accountable than whatever bubba good ol' boy that just happens to be from the area.
I'm talking actual militarization of police. Have separate enlisted, NCO, warrant, and Commissioned corps. Specific tours of duty and deployments, tighter ROEs, constant training, retraining, cross training. Make it a professional, formalized, and prestigious organization. US Civil Guard as part of DHS
I actually think that's not so bad an idea, as it makes the police accountable to the the federal government in the same way the Coast Guard and National Guard are, and entices doing their jobs or else their money gets siphoned away and given to the non-dysfunctional branches instead.
The military has shown over the past two decades its a better police force than the actual police are, and if they can't offer a comparable performance, why the hell should the American tax payer bleed money for both?
You are insane. The problem is not fixed by trying to create some super organisation responsible for everything out of randomly forcefully drafted individuals.
I trust the state to hold police accountable than whatever bubba good ol' boy that just happens to be from the area.
I'm talking actual militarization of police. Have separate enlisted, NCO, warrant, and Commissioned corps. Specific tours of duty and deployments, tighter ROEs, constant training, retraining, cross training. Make it a professional, formalized, and prestigious organization. US Civil Guard as part of DHS
I actually think that's not so bad an idea, as it makes the police accountable to the the federal government in the same way the Coast Guard and National Guard are, and entices doing their jobs or else their money gets siphoned away and given to the non-dysfunctional branches instead.
The military has shown over the past two decades its a better police force than the actual police are, and if they can't offer a comparable performance, why the hell should the American tax payer bleed money for both?
Theres a bunch of reasons why this is a bad idea, first of all the feds are already not being held accountable when they do wrong, second of all the military operates under the UCMJ, which is a lot stricter than civilian law in regards to "oops i killed some civilian in her sleep". Finally the chief of police or sheriff being elected is a way better accountability program than you being able to register a complaint in DC via fax machine.
And in the end we'd still be talking about a job that is risky, has you working all kinds of weird shifts and whatnot, and a lot of training requirements to actually pull off having a decent department. So you're not exactly getting the cream of the crop anyways. And can you imagine some big shot fedboi getting sent to bumfrick nowhere? the guys gonna be applying for a change of station ASAP. Meaning every few years or so everything in your PD goes to shit, because theres a new guy that noone knows or even trusts in town.
And we haven't even talked about states, counties or cities and their actual RIGHT to police their jurisdiction, or how a centralized agency will train all the differences in local laws.
Last but not least = centralization bad. nazi gestapo bad.
To think that glowies are slowly polluting their minds with PrepHole that eventually they'll become salty boomers shitposting on /k/ outside of their work hours. The only difference is their Xe/Xir/Xem grandpersons will be asking what they did when working for the Mighty Glow and they'll equate shilling on PrepHole as fighting to protect democracy.
ultimately necessary as Black personhomosexuals continue to escalate their moronic arms race against the state instead of participating in it to try and improve society, though i am not happy about it.
newsflash morons: if you don't want to live under tyranny, go vote for whoever you believe in. your cabin in the woods won't save you.
>gets absolutely demolished in one of their offensives
Not a great example when the NVA carried them. They were trained by the soviets to only get wiped out in the tet offensive.
>Vietnam divided into communist North and non-communist South >China/Russia kept funding/supplying North Vietnam who in turn kept funding/supplying the insurgents in South Vietnam >South Vietnam keeps repressing the locals and banning Buddhism which makes the locals angry >South Vietnam is completely filled with jungles/mountains and almost completely rural except the only major city of Saigon. >US military never invaded North Vietnam
did Americans delude themselves into thinking they could somehow defeat the insurgents and keep South Vietnam going forever?
America did defeat the insurgency, though. But you ASSUME that North Vietnam didn't have a professional army, which they did. The main reason america didn't invade the north was because they feared Chinese intervention. So america only just hoped to stop the conflict while also fortifying the north so that they can defend themselves.
>go vote for whoever you believe in
My beliefs are not represented because of systematic political suppression, so I have no one to vote for. What I do know is if the government tries to disarm me I will use my gun on any agents who attempt to take it.
An interaction with cops is either voluntary or involuntary.
Involuntary:
You’re either being robbed by modern-day highwaymen, or someone is outsourcing their violence to the state I.e. you’re a criminal and otherwise would have been shot by your victim, or deterred entirely by the prospect of being shot - immediate violence is a more reliable deterrent than future violence.
Voluntary:
You are in need of the service of violence I.e. you need a gun but don’t have one
So there, guns replace cops.
But cops are inevitable. The state is on the order of mathematically guaranteed to exist and you are guaranteed to be the livestock they rob for sustenance.
Possibly some sort of armed response team might benefit from it depending on the sort of operations they deal with, but not regular police sitting around holding their dicks outside a school as it gets shot up because going inside is too scary despite all their expensive gear.
Intimidation. The idea is that if some barricaded butthole sees a glimpse of a srt/swat wearing shit like that with ARs/M4s theres a degree of de-escalation. Also full kits feel better in actual uniforms ngl.
all things being equal, Ranger Green is a much better neutral color than black or blue.
If police need to wear tactical gear then by definition, personal safety is a consideration. In a potential combat situation they under no obligation to make themselves more visible and risking their own lives for the benefit of criminals.
IE if you need to use tactical gear you are loading for bear, might as well use the solid color that gives you the best chances of surviving the encounter. Plus it looks professional, serious, but also not too militaristic
doesn't matter, moron
why don't you worry about things like training and accountability instead of the colors of their fricking smocks ? you're wasting precious air by yapping about this nonsense.
Patriot act carve out that gave your loser small time little city cops a bearcat/mrap and multicam uniforms plate carriers helmets nods for general use instead of just a swat team having that. Dont have the time to educate you but that should give you the gist of it enough to start googling yourself. Either way if you end up being lazy and whiny or european frick you.
Sauce? There is lot of BTR (not BMP) police action footage. Do you mean a BMP-1 73mm gun? I'd love to see that.
Also "thugs" in Russia have RPGs, GPMG and AKs, so it's sort of understandable their cops are using armored vehicles as battering rams/lay down support fire.
Also russian anti-terror SF are heavily armored, because everything need to stand up to at least 7.65 tok which is the poor man 5.7. And they use their explosives either form rockets or grenades intensively which is their close combat doctrine. They don't slice the pie they grenade first ask question later.
A highly trained and well equipped force is a force that ultimately costs less lives on both sides.
Law enforcement is controlled by people of various political seats and judges, these people are more often the problem.
Only one killdozer was ever built and he stopped himself when the dozer broke down. Nobody did anything. Also the national guard already has necessary Anti-Tank capabilities. Police don't need this capability.
what's the point of wearing camo at all when you're a police officer
Police wear camo because they're 90IQ brutes that want to terrorize the non-police and inflate their ego. These morons think military is cool and are literally larping.
>"There's a reason you separate military and the police. One fights the enemies of the state. The other serves and protects the people. When the police turns into military, then the people tend to become enemies of the state."
Horrible.
And it's partly a result of pro-Israeli lobbying efforts since the 1990s.
The cops also love civil forfeiture, which is stealing people's assets just because they suspect it might be made from or use in something illegal while presenting no proof or conviction.
Reminder that police is supposed to mean city militia.
Militia in most basic form means every man capable of carrying a weapon.
Modern police emerged from what we today would call mercenaries.
Mafia has same origin story but they were corrupted by themselves instead of state.
Modern police are just mercenaries and pro-government extremists.
These /misc/ chuds will insist that they can protect themselves with their shiny toys but the truth is they are precisely the reason why the police needs to be equipped, funded, and prepared appropriately.
They are a threat to our society and our system.
1) That's hardly "militarization." Just a bunch of dudes with assault rifles and armored trucks with zero heavy weapons. Call me when you're like China and police have mbts and artillery.
2) If civilians can own ars & body armor, so should cops.
3) Its seriously weird how Americans have now modernized to an industrial nightmare of a country ever since the start of WW2 and yet still insist that police should be the tiny 19th century small town sheriffs but overseeing tens and thousands of people. And then they complain about homeless druggies overrunning cities and overworked cops.
>2) If civilians can own ars & body armor, so should cops.
That cuts both ways. If cops can get NFA items, explosives, and cheap armored vehicles, civilians should be able to also. Which is a fair and equal trade. Citizens would agree to that, cops would pitch a fit
Ok then we get to buy tanks and artillery >because the state will always be more armed than you.
Yeah and that’s the issue. There is no reason for the “public serving” police to be more heavily armed than what the average man can buy. The military is different. Police aren’t military.
>There is no reason
There is, it wouldn't be the state if they didn't have a monopoly on violence. >public serving
They're not there to "serve" you, they're there to enforce the law. If someone's trying to break into your house you can call the police because that's illegal, not because they're your friends. Learn the difference.
Fren we’re on the same side here. I know it’s purposeful. I’m well aware it’s structured this way to keep the people from having power and a say.
My points are from a logical/general discussion that it shouldn’t be structured this way, if the purpose is to help the community. While we may recognize anarcho-tyranny, too many do not and it’s not palatable by normies
Don't they have to set up a trust for the department?
My town of 18k has 4 armored transport vehicles & 2 forensic RV's, that's just what you can see from the public roads. I went to get food at a chinese hole in the wall and like 6-8 cops decked out in military bullshit came in made it feel like I was living in an active war zone. It's not common now but if nobody tells them enough is enough expect DUI checkpoints to start looking like military checkpoints where you're treated like a third rate citizen and humiliated for no reason.
>don't slow down fast enough >get shot for being mistaken for a VBIED
>when I buy an assault rifle 15 and level 4 armor and plate carrier and high capacity drum mags of screwdriver bullets it's based and redpilled >when police buy a truck gun they're oppressing my rights!
Normal people can already buy NFA items, bulletproof cars, and explosives so idk why larpers are mad about cops being able to. Stop being poor.
>buy NFA items
At insanely artificial prices and with months to years of waiting for something as simple as a suppressor. Cops get special treatment. Let me know when I can get a new production, full auto AR for $1000. Let me know when I can get anything made post-86. >bulletproof cars
Which are subsidized by hand me downs from the DoD. Care to show me when and where the DoD is putting MRAPs up for auction for less than $10k. Because that’s what a lot of departments paid to buy them. Not only did my federal tax dollars go towards buying them the first time, my local tax dollars are going towards buying it again, when it will never be used for me and only against me (potentially). We are paying for our tools of oppression and aren’t even allowed the option to buy them at the same rate. >and explosives
With a mile of extra red tape that law enforcement can avoid.
You’re being disingenuous and you know it. Which means you are a newer lefty shill/war tourist, or a badgeBlack person. Any true /k/ommando is full shall not.
>Cops get special treatment.
Because they're a part of the government so they get exceptions numnuts. They don't get to take their guns home. They stay at the station when not in use and are typically destroyed when they aren't needed anymore. Really no different than the military.
These people are gendarmes (men of arms).
They are meant to be military operating within civilian environement.
If I am not mistaken they are now run by the homeland ministery.
Oh, and they also have the GIGN unit, which is /k/ to an incredible point.
It's good to have a middle-ground gendarmerie corp, many countries have it
Here we have the Carabinieri who works as police, peacekeeping, military police and mil operations as well
Can't be done. States would sperg out over >muh rights
and there would be significant institutional inertia and barriers to entry with the existence of the NG and federal law enforcement agencies.
Cops having access to heavy shit isn't necessarily a problem. The issue is that American cops have ridiculously terrible training compared to their European counterparts. We're talking months versus years here. And that's for normal beat cops, not even SWAT or other paramilitary roles. As a result cops in America generally just suck at deescalating and start going for the violent option. Now give every glorified mall cop access to some sweet toys and you've got a receipt for diaster. Just allocate the majority of the budget to training (TTPs), sort out better integration with mental health care professionals (so not every civilian undergoing a breakdown gets executed) and introduce accountability (and actually enforce it). Do that and cops might stop larping as delta force. Serve the community, not terrorise it.
I'm not necessarily opposed to it. In a society where regular people are allowed to own what are practically military-grade arms (minus full auto), and are in many cases more well equipped than your average grunt (this is not a bad thing), police officers should be capable of responding to a threat that involves these weapons. That said, there's no real use case for shit like m113s, and police need some kind of oversight so they don't spend their money on moronic shit like that. If they didn't, maybe they'd be able to actually pay them enough to encourage professionals to join the force instead of moronic tubbos who want to bully people for a living. I've got a lot of problems with the police, but them being capable of responding to situations involving semi-auto rifles and body armor effectively is not one of them.
Also feds shouldn't have access to national guard armories. The fact that they've driven bradleys through multiple buildings when that number should be zero is fricking moronic.
I'm not necessarily opposed to it. In a society where regular people are allowed to own what are practically military-grade arms (minus full auto), and are in many cases more well equipped than your average grunt (this is not a bad thing), police officers should be capable of responding to a threat that involves these weapons. That said, there's no real use case for shit like m113s, and police need some kind of oversight so they don't spend their money on moronic shit like that. If they didn't, maybe they'd be able to actually pay them enough to encourage professionals to join the force instead of moronic tubbos who want to bully people for a living. I've got a lot of problems with the police, but them being capable of responding to situations involving semi-auto rifles and body armor effectively is not one of them.
Also feds shouldn't have access to national guard armories. The fact that they've driven bradleys through multiple buildings when that number should be zero is fricking moronic.
Basically this. The issue isn't that the have the equipment, it's that they use it terribly
I'm not necessarily opposed to it. In a society where regular people are allowed to own what are practically military-grade arms (minus full auto), and are in many cases more well equipped than your average grunt (this is not a bad thing), police officers should be capable of responding to a threat that involves these weapons. That said, there's no real use case for shit like m113s, and police need some kind of oversight so they don't spend their money on moronic shit like that. If they didn't, maybe they'd be able to actually pay them enough to encourage professionals to join the force instead of moronic tubbos who want to bully people for a living. I've got a lot of problems with the police, but them being capable of responding to situations involving semi-auto rifles and body armor effectively is not one of them.
Also feds shouldn't have access to national guard armories. The fact that they've driven bradleys through multiple buildings when that number should be zero is fricking moronic.
Highest level law enforcement should have access to the 'best gear'. Not tanks, but APCs are fine for the heavy hitters. If anything with actual firepower is needed the NG will be mobilized anyway. Or JSOC gets to larp as FBI agents for couple of days.
Policing should not be a full time job for most beat cops. It should be like old city watches where it’s average citizens who just do a few days/nights a month. It would make everyone more responsible for the safety of their community. There would need to be checks and balances to ensure people don’t abuse it — but then, current police could also use more accountability.
unironically have cops be exclusively like jury duty and comprised of temporarily drafted civilians.
Like if you are eligible in terms of education or fitness you have the chance of being drafted for a year to be a cop. No more sub 90 IQ brutes, just normal people trying to get through their tour of duty. Much less power tripping, people with actual life experience. Obviously for things like SWAT and more specialized roles you'd want full time professional staff, but for parking enforcement, street patrols, and everyday use could absolutely be done
shit, I live in MPLS, things were actually better when the NG had things under martial law because they were actually people and understand what it's like to be on the other side of the policing interaction. You wouldn't be selecting for Jack booted fascists who wants to power trip, just patriotic Americans and/or people looking to better their lives/escape from poverty
>No more sub 90 IQ brutes >just normal people trying to get through their tour of duty
Most people are idiots, and don't tend to react well in stressful situations.
Imagine having PrepHoleners drafted to your neighborhood. You know some of them are going to be mentally unstable types with weird knives, emotional outbursts, etc.
you would draft physically fit and educated people. Not PrepHole posters
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We have a board called PrepHole, you can be athletic (and even educated) while still being a frickup of a human being.
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You aren't a frickup if you're fit. I can't even comprehend an example of what you've posited would even look like.
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1 year ago
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Being PrepHole lets you frick up in all new ways unavailable to flabbier men.
1 year ago
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Go to PrepHole and find out
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Oh, so now you want standards? It's not everyone can play anymore?
Pretty soon you're going to be worried about jury compensation money aka wages, then regulations and insurance, and finally training, and you'll be back at the start.
Jesus christ this is the scariest bit about all of the incoherent schizo rambling. They would see a bunch of rednecks running around lynching anyone they didnt like as a good thing. Shit like the salem witch trials goes to show that shit like that doesnt work. All it takes is a group of people so absolutely delusional they believe anything said by the group and a bunch of people get the rope for no fricking reason. "The good old days" were never good.
Fine anon. >Imagine getting pulled over and held at gunpoint for speeding (when you weren't) by 80IQ Tyrone and his boys Big Purple and Thugg Shaker.
There, is that legible in your specific political argot?
it's inevitable that the state of the art solution to a problem spread to everybody that has the money to spend on it. The attempt to demilitarize the police will fail in all cases for exactly the same reason as gun bans.
Modern police are less on par in terms of military equipment than they were in the early to mid 20th Century.
>Tommy guns >BARs >Full auto everywhere >Armored cars when the army were rocking soft skins.
MRAPs, ballistic plates and carbines are not "militarization", it's called the tools required to deal with all the 80 IQ active shooters and crackheads holding hostages.
>it's called the tools required to deal with all the 80 IQ active shooters
The problem isn't their equipment, its their general lack of balls against anyone that could shoot back
>The problem isn't their equipment, its their general lack of balls against anyone that could shoot back
The problem was with the Uvalde forces. Look at Nashville or a plethora of other shootings and you see officers rushing in to deal with the mentally ill moron on the other side. Rinkydink forces and corrupt city admins are the problem forces in America.
This entire thread proves to me that once again none of you know what you're talking about. Especially ones who are so deluded into thinking they can get rid of the police and set up their own group. Except it's totally not the police but even fricking worse.
That chaz thing or whatever it was literally had a shitty self created police force that gunned down an unarmed black kid in a SUV and then executed him.
Bongland has the advantage of their population not being so moronic and being shot at random is seemingly an everpresent fear you need to guard against.
Correct. They're starting to in california of all places due to their abuse of off roster private sales putting them straight into b***h your an arms dealer now you need an ffl and to pay taxes. Police union finally said gun laws are unconstitutional when it started affecting them.
meme propagated by morons
they see an APC or armored van and think "oh my god, is that a heckin' tank ? is that body armor ? CAMOUFLAGE ? literally 1984!!"
fricking morons
>what the "patriot" act is or what it started
They're just codifying what they've always been doing you dumb Black person. They would still do that shit even without the patriot act.
My town of 18k has 4 armored transport vehicles & 2 forensic RV's, that's just what you can see from the public roads. I went to get food at a chinese hole in the wall and like 6-8 cops decked out in military bullshit came in made it feel like I was living in an active war zone. It's not common now but if nobody tells them enough is enough expect DUI checkpoints to start looking like military checkpoints where you're treated like a third rate citizen and humiliated for no reason.
Armor is standard with any police force, the AR is reasonable if it's america.
Police in any country are given automatic weapons depending on role and where they're stationed, or given a higher alert level.
>neverserveds larping as military men >refuse to work when their feefees get hurt
I am in genuine awe unruly groups aren't simply kicked off and replaced wholesale. They're quickly reaching third world dysfunction.
It makes sense from a budgetary standpoint. The military has a frickload of old weapons, the police need some niche weapons in their arsenal just in case, sell the weapons to the police force. The issue isn't so much this process as it is everything surrounding it. Police forces are overeager to deploy SWAT teams, the police operate with as little transparency and accountability as they can get away with, absolutely piss poor training and standards for an incredibly taxing and dangerous job.
Operator culture really was a horrible thing for the world. I highly doubt any of you will agree with it, but it has ruined so much shit. Also, frick the police.
It would be fine if it came with a unified military command structure instead of a union that allows the "soldiers," to violate direct orders and say "frick you, pay me more and I'll think about it," to their commander.
Imagine if the military was routinely forced to rehire and give backpay to soldiers it fired for poor performance, getting into bar fights, DUIs, etc. That's the police union system today; guys are impossible to fire.
when youve been arresting your fellow citizens for drinking beer in order to pay your department bills
They need to look like an occupying military to keep you scared of them! >Defund the Police? Just stop drinking alcohol and driving an automobile and most police depts. will go broke within 2 months, stop going to bars and the citys tax base with collapse!
No money to be had with Domestic disputes and those are down right dangerous and with then hiring of female police a Domestic dispute take 3-10 officers to write a report and to protect the 8 female cops!
Reminds me of the quote about if the public just didn't speak and let a lawyer speak for them police and courts would go bankrupt in a month.
That said let's be honest, they could come up with new means of hall monitoring you. Going 37 in a 35 Mph zone, jaywalking, ect.
I am the anon you replied to, I do understand fricking with jaywalking when you're dealing with a busy street. It's more some rule lawyering where it's just "Cmon homie chill out, just browbeat em about not doing it again no reason to cite them".
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was NYC really as crazy as mad bull 34 portrays or is it just cultural misunderstanding the Japs had of us New Yorkers?
A quote I remember possibly from NYC's current mayor or some other major official was that it's 'worse' in NYC now because back then you knew the rules of the game - don't be out at night, avoid X neighborhood, don't do ABC and you're safe" whereas now it's literally just get merced or fricked up in broad daylight on a busy street in an otherwise safe location.
Mad bull is clearly going to be playing up the insanity for dramatic points but NYC was plenty nasty.
https://www.disastercenter.com/crime/nycrime.htm
Murder was 2605 at the height in 1990, burglarly was ~360,000 at the height, larceny theft 535k, robbery 112k.
Also >Forcible rape was 2797 in 2010 >Fricking 6,583 in 2019 >That's higher than during the worst of the 80s.
Yeh. I'm not a New york resident so I'm just picking up from what I remember reading. Wish I could recall this great 2001 book that was full of real gonzo journalists who went out to nasty hot spots in the world for real hardcore risky exposes. Lebanon in the 80s, journalist on a plane taken hostage, Afghanistan after Soviets, Eritrea, the works. It ended with a chapter on LA riots and NYC. NYC just felt more fetid and disgusting whereas LA was and remains the biggest modern proof of why gun ownership is invaluable.
But to put it into context:
"Today" (past 4 years too lazy to get exact date) St Louis MO is the most dangerous city with a crime rate of 70 per 1,000 residents. Chance of a victim of violent or property crime is 1 in 14. Crime rate per 1k residents is 14.96 for violent, 55.05 for property.
NYC in 1990 was the peak of homicide. Homicde rate was 30.7 per 100,000. In other words: >St Louis 2020s = Chance to suffer violent crime - not necessarily murder
14.96 out of 100,000 >NYC 1990 = chance to suffer murder.
30.7 out of 100,000.
So, take St Louis Missouri today and double it. While we're at it I am too lazy to crunch numbers but safely assume for the worst behavior of Seattle and Baltimore and Portland and let's double or triple it.
That's NYC in 1990. NYC in 1990 was twice as dangerous as fricking St Louis today.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>Upstate New Yorker I am to be correct. Damn did 9/11 have any impact on crime in NYC?
1 year ago
Anonymous
>9/11 impact on crime
Sebastian Junker mentioned in the Tribe Book that suicides plummeted after 9-11. No pun intended with the word plummeted. Otherwise I don't know, but the popular cultural understanding is that Rudy Guiliani in the 90s and early 2000s before he went a bit loony really transformed NYC with broken window policing >https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Broken_windows_theory
Which holds that petty minor crimes (like not paying subway fare, petty larceny of chips or whatever, littering, jaywalking) will become a festering breeding ground for greater crime.
This probably coupled with 'stop and frisk' which is 'randomly' stopping people on the street to check if they have guns or drugs. I think only dipshit crime-apologists can argue against broken window policing (Even if I defended mild jaywalking earlier). Stop and frisk is a more complicated one because I can see the merits of being against >"You're walking while black now I get to frisk you for no reason other than being a homie".
But in any case the going was good and gentrification was making lods of emone during Guiliani and the slimy wannabe-Emperor-Xi we all know and loath, Bloomberg. It's after him you get that first tweedle dumb I forget the name of and now you get the former squeegie-boy and vegan tyrant former cop whose mayor of NYC now. Along with Chicago they seem to be gluttons for punishment since at least Minneapolis went "Hey uh, maybe we shouldn't abolish the police" and rescinded some of their stupider policies post Floyd.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Awesome 9/11 really helped make NYC a tiny bit safer with less suicides. That is so freakin b***h cha’.
1 year ago
Anonymous
yeah but after 911 the average price of an apartment in NYC cost in the $3-$4 $5K to $350K a month range.
People with that kind of money to spend are making good money and dont want to kill themselves. Better statistics would to look into the suburbs of MJ Penn and Coon to see if suicide rates increased there!
Also city government doesnt like to put out stats that could effect thier governance!
Budwieser just lost $4 Billion dollars through a troony! >Imagine the money they have been funneling to the police and court houses via DUI and State & City Tax's!
Another blatant example of government overreach that bootlickers will justify by saying "you only need to worry of you commit a crime". No different to the Patriot Act or Stop and Search laws
Lmao look at all these people thinking they are some kind of Vietnamese/Afghanistan resistance fighter.
No you won't do jackshit.
You will be slaughtered like the pigs at WACO.
The best you are going to do is call some falseflag fed shooting up random stragglers an inspiration.
Pathetic.
It's ridiculous. 95% of PDs and feds don't need about 90% of their toys. And if those resources would not be spend on military gear they'd probably be more effective. Driving down the highway with an MRAP thats no longer in production at 2.4 MPG is just moronic.
Seems like they're being goaded into a USSR-style situation where eventually the upkeep of policing the population becomes too high for them to maintain.
>Germany >Supposedly full of violent immigrants >No guns >Parts of the police force doesn't even have guns >Average of 20 SHOTS fired per year >Yet America hast 5 times more homicides per capita and eleven times more rapes per capita than Germany
Ah it feels good to live in an actual first world country that >muh guns mutts can only cope and seethe about
Wie reizend
I never said i was against guns. Switzerland and Finnland are doing fine. America ist the problem
Also, you're mistaken, this ist a weapons board, not just guns
Cope
>ukraine out of nowhere
Black person, ukraine has more gunrights than america at this point ever since they laxed their gun laws. Not sure why you're insulting them when they are the most pro gun nations out there at this moment.
>militarization
Aren't majority of cops gear just bought from the civilian market? How is it "militarization" when they just get basic b***h gear that anybody can get? Is it the camo?
Necessary for the protection of our democracy.
So they're gonna be deployed against right wing insurrectionists?
trolling outside of /b/
Early morning third world glowie D&C shill posts.
Sneed
I wonder if GPTs have freed up a lot of their resources, enabling them to shill much harder.
It's quite stiff here so they must be afraid. Flak over target and all that.
>third world glowie D&C shill posts.
>Third World
>Glowie
What does this even mean? Are you just slapping a bunch of words together?
You've never visited DC before have you anon?
>incendiary topic
>mass reply to the first handful of posts
just like the waco thread. weird
>We must militarize the police to suppress the people for democracy
>The police are always right and the government is unquestionable
Yeah, sure bud.
This is to protect the standing regime, not to protect democracy.
It's been a slow build-up since Obama and police militarization policy.
This is an authoritarian move that would not be out of place in a despotic third world country.
Yet, by some unexpected grace, the police continue to volunteer for Patriot militias. I live in a rural part of the US and know the local police, they are in the militias as well. This is relevant to weapons, the military, and the militarization of the police.
So, this ends up backfiring. This equipment ends up in the hands of police, who are now a big part of these anti-government militias. Same with actual veterans with combat training, they started this whole thing. So, it ends up benefiting us. It's like Sun Tzu said, why destroy what can be captured? Our cause is true. The cops join our ranks on their own volition out of love for their country, we don't need to persuade or deceive.
If this regime wants to try and run our beloved USA like a Latin American dictatorship, then expect insurgent freedom fighters like in a Latin American dictatorship. Law enforcement, veterans, even active military who are prepared for revolutionary war. Expect righteous revolution.
This brutish approach to civil unrest reveals an uneasy status quo and a corrupt government that is clearly concerned for its own survival above the interests of the people. This is how it dies, they are digging themselves into a hole that only serves as a grave for their dying machine. The harder they fight against the reality of the situation, the sharper the truth becomes.
Things could be so much better. This nation could be peaceful, prosperous, and strong. Instead of endless war, growing poverty, and instability. This nation can be greater than it ever was before, but not under the decay of zionist occupation.
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>Yet, by some unexpected grace, the police continue to volunteer for Patriot militias. I live in a rural part of the US and know the local police, they are in the militias as well.
It's posts like these that remind me of the times when some right-wing Meal Team Six snatch-and-grab "militia" trained in high caloric destruction gets dispatched from their HQ in Golden Corral to terminate their nearest ice cream section with extreme prejudice, and they get immediately busted and it turns out they were part of cop-run training camp the whole time, and they can't even begin to fathom what it all means.
Reminder that the J6 PF Black folk were forty federal agents and five patsies.
Source?
Ask your girlfriend’s other boyfriend.
>since Obama
Frick I hate zoomers. News flash this shit has been going on since at least the GWOT, which was Dubya and his dumb-ass neocon cronies.
Stupid as frick since the police are staffed by barely literate high school dropouts with a GED and 3 months of community college training. Businesses want their scarecrows to have bigger and badder looking weapons thinking it'll stop looters.
>News flash this shit has been going on since at least the GWOT
It has been going on since the federal government tried to enforce prohibition. It has continued with the anti-mob FBI and forced integration.
Waco and Ruby Ridge were not new, they were just well reported. The war on drugs is all about giving police unconstitutional powers to trespass, spy, and steal lawful property without judicial oversight or due process.
The frick? It started under Bush, Obama tried to scale it back then Trump put it in overdrive.
Obama tried to scale it back? Source? Trump blah blah, source?
>Obama
*Bush
If you want to get really spicy to piss off the boomers, arguably Reagan
>If you want to get really spicy to piss off the boomers, arguably Reagan
True. Reagan was elected in part because of the 1960s-70s Dems soft-on-crime-revolving-door-prison policies and police militarization has been increasing ever since.
Regan is doo doo and Hughes too, checkmate Reganites
>finger on the trigger while taking the suppressor off
Unnecessary.
Decidedly not.
Also Posse Commitus allows the federal military to defend US borders. Arresting border hoppers is not a law enforcement task, it is a sovereignty preserving federal task that the federal government is required to do in article 4 of the constitution.
"OUR" Democracy...
Every time I hear that, my blood boils.
Democracy is democracy. It belongs to no one. To claim ownership of a millennia-old political concept reeks of bourgeois narcissism...
>bourgeois
Cry some moar commie.
wrong
>It belongs to no one
Don't care, didn't ask, country is not for sale.
i hereby thusly upvote your karma my good sir
>"OUR" Democracy...
>Every time I hear that, my blood boils.
>Democracy is democracy. It belongs to no one. To claim ownership of a millennia-old political concept reeks of
Agreed..
>bourgeois
ooof get in the oven commie homosexual homosexual
i will rape you to death
protection from what?
Criminals?
What do you think happens when society has no law enforcement.
I find the ongoing fracas and sliding in the pacific coast funny, as people that live in cities like Seattle always pretend everyone that doesn't vote with them is unintelligent and unsophisticated. Fitting it is that their culture births something strikingly reminiscent to a film about the degeneration of society into something little better than proto-morlocks.
of our democracy
what does the police do that protects democracy? isnt this just giving police more power and influence over your democracy?
>What do you think happens when society has no law enforcement
The same thing that happened nearly everywhere in world pre 1900. Life went along swimmingly
>world pre 1900. Life went along swimmingly
Enjoy your septicaemia, homosexual.
>nooooo you can’t have societal cohesion AND technological progress
Those aren’t mutually exclusive and I’d love for you to explain why cops were responsible for the technological progress over the past 100 or so years
>societal cohesion
You've got some serious fricking rose-tinted glasses on for a time period from long before you were alive.
>I’d love for you to explain why cops were responsible for the technological progress over the past 100 or so years
Nothing? That was your implication
Nah you are just a spastic. What I'm
>implying
is you are moronic for looking at the pre 1900's as a "better time".
>Enjoy your septicaemia, homosexual.
You didn’t imply shit. You outright said it. Man I should have clocked your backpedal considering how fast it was
You somehow didn't grasp that was sarcasm, even though the implying was in greentext? Are you actually moronic anon.
>it was just a joke
If you were joking and it was sarcasm you would have said that as your next reply. You wouldn’t say I had rose tinted classes and then double down and call the 1900s a bad time.
>pic
Anon... Loose soil on cardboard is basically standard procedure for small, educational pop-up planting workshops. It's a cheap material, lets you easily gather the dirt you've brought there to demo on, and it doesn't harm the turf below.
Just like a school desk at math class isn't meant to be a supercomputer, a messy temporary planting spot used for educational demonstration isn't ever meant to be a farm.
>isn't ever meant to be a farm.
The point of that garden was supposedly to make Chaz food independent.
Schizos and incels
ok
Larp is larp
Spead your butt cheeks wider bootlick, the ATF still can't get their whole fist in
we unironically need a centralized national gendarmerie
At the same time get rid of municipal police forces and replace them with a centralized state one, and draft private citizens to do tours of duty as police. Only have the gendarmerie armed, and require at least a bachelor's to enlist
>primarily responsible for internal security, riot control, counter-terrorism, disaster response, law enforcement and maritime rights protection as well as providing support to the US Army during wartime.
You'll just get nasty girls who don't give a shit about the area they're "protecting and serving." Cops should all be local. If anything there's less reason for state police to exist.
You are insane. The problem is not fixed by trying to create some super organisation responsible for everything out of randomly forcefully drafted individuals.
I trust the state to hold police accountable than whatever bubba good ol' boy that just happens to be from the area.
I'm talking actual militarization of police. Have separate enlisted, NCO, warrant, and Commissioned corps. Specific tours of duty and deployments, tighter ROEs, constant training, retraining, cross training. Make it a professional, formalized, and prestigious organization. US Civil Guard as part of DHS
>I trust the state to hold police accountable
Who the frick is holding them accountable? Themselves? Good fricking joke
I actually think that's not so bad an idea, as it makes the police accountable to the the federal government in the same way the Coast Guard and National Guard are, and entices doing their jobs or else their money gets siphoned away and given to the non-dysfunctional branches instead.
The military has shown over the past two decades its a better police force than the actual police are, and if they can't offer a comparable performance, why the hell should the American tax payer bleed money for both?
Theres a bunch of reasons why this is a bad idea, first of all the feds are already not being held accountable when they do wrong, second of all the military operates under the UCMJ, which is a lot stricter than civilian law in regards to "oops i killed some civilian in her sleep". Finally the chief of police or sheriff being elected is a way better accountability program than you being able to register a complaint in DC via fax machine.
And in the end we'd still be talking about a job that is risky, has you working all kinds of weird shifts and whatnot, and a lot of training requirements to actually pull off having a decent department. So you're not exactly getting the cream of the crop anyways. And can you imagine some big shot fedboi getting sent to bumfrick nowhere? the guys gonna be applying for a change of station ASAP. Meaning every few years or so everything in your PD goes to shit, because theres a new guy that noone knows or even trusts in town.
And we haven't even talked about states, counties or cities and their actual RIGHT to police their jurisdiction, or how a centralized agency will train all the differences in local laws.
Last but not least = centralization bad. nazi gestapo bad.
You're such a massive homosexual. "Our" democracy, frick off Black person.
Agent smith, pls do better. Despite being in your nesting stage these fails do not look good on you your or your trainers.
>Glowie
To think that glowies are slowly polluting their minds with PrepHole that eventually they'll become salty boomers shitposting on /k/ outside of their work hours. The only difference is their Xe/Xir/Xem grandpersons will be asking what they did when working for the Mighty Glow and they'll equate shilling on PrepHole as fighting to protect democracy.
What would you do if you came across that while innawoods?
360° and walk away
360° is a full rotation
ultimately necessary as Black personhomosexuals continue to escalate their moronic arms race against the state instead of participating in it to try and improve society, though i am not happy about it.
newsflash morons: if you don't want to live under tyranny, go vote for whoever you believe in. your cabin in the woods won't save you.
>>Just ask them politely to stop stripping you of rights and freedoms
me bro
who is them? the israelites?
>no one
>literally no one
>starts mentioning DA JOOOOS
No, the American Aristocracy
If you want to try to dismiss the truth by decrying racism go ahead, but it is all class warfare, always has been
The politicians, both left and right. They all hate the idea of an armed populace because it threatens their power.
>defund the police
>the police will take down maga and its guns
>Thinking voting changes anything
NGMI
Do nothing then, do the same thing you've been doing and hoping things will be different.
>vote for whoever you believe in
LEMAO
when has "innawoods" ever worked out for insurgents?
"innacity" or "innametro" seems to be a legitimate insurgency strategy, but rural innawoods seemds pretty stupid.
>when has "innawoods" ever worked out for insurgents?
That works a lot better when basically the whole country is rural and agrarian
Tbf, it's most often "onnamountain" or "innacave"
>gets absolutely demolished in one of their offensives
Not a great example when the NVA carried them. They were trained by the soviets to only get wiped out in the tet offensive.
>Vietnam divided into communist North and non-communist South
>China/Russia kept funding/supplying North Vietnam who in turn kept funding/supplying the insurgents in South Vietnam
>South Vietnam keeps repressing the locals and banning Buddhism which makes the locals angry
>South Vietnam is completely filled with jungles/mountains and almost completely rural except the only major city of Saigon.
>US military never invaded North Vietnam
did Americans delude themselves into thinking they could somehow defeat the insurgents and keep South Vietnam going forever?
America did defeat the insurgency, though. But you ASSUME that North Vietnam didn't have a professional army, which they did. The main reason america didn't invade the north was because they feared Chinese intervention. So america only just hoped to stop the conflict while also fortifying the north so that they can defend themselves.
>"innawoods"
You mean innatunnel
Also, unless the Canadians let you use them as a Ho Chi Mihn trail good luck getting supplied.
>Canadians
It'll be the Mexicans.
You should vote AND prepare to go full Uncle Ted. The two are not mutually exclusive.
>go vote for whoever you believe in
My beliefs are not represented because of systematic political suppression, so I have no one to vote for. What I do know is if the government tries to disarm me I will use my gun on any agents who attempt to take it.
That is the saddest failure of a demoralizer post i have ever seen and i saw and read everything throughout the obama era. Cope harder.
frick off bootlicking radlib you're not gonna turn /k/ into fricking PrepHole/r/sra
i hate cops
i hate cops
you know how often i've thought "wow i really wish there was a cop here to help me"?
never
An interaction with cops is either voluntary or involuntary.
Involuntary:
You’re either being robbed by modern-day highwaymen, or someone is outsourcing their violence to the state I.e. you’re a criminal and otherwise would have been shot by your victim, or deterred entirely by the prospect of being shot - immediate violence is a more reliable deterrent than future violence.
Voluntary:
You are in need of the service of violence I.e. you need a gun but don’t have one
So there, guns replace cops.
But cops are inevitable. The state is on the order of mathematically guaranteed to exist and you are guaranteed to be the livestock they rob for sustenance.
There's more to having a system of law enforcement than simply shooting things. Not all concepts are direct things you can fire a bullet at.
I get that, I’m being hyperbolic, but the chief role of law enforcement is still coercion. They are, after all, an appendage of the state.
please ditch the camo and go back to wearing black + navy blue
What's the point of wearing green camo when they mostly operate in cities?
what's the point of wearing camo at all when you're a police officer
Possibly some sort of armed response team might benefit from it depending on the sort of operations they deal with, but not regular police sitting around holding their dicks outside a school as it gets shot up because going inside is too scary despite all their expensive gear.
So they can larp as soldiers who are fighting an enemy. And they see everyone who isn’t a cop as an enemy
Intimidation. The idea is that if some barricaded butthole sees a glimpse of a srt/swat wearing shit like that with ARs/M4s theres a degree of de-escalation. Also full kits feel better in actual uniforms ngl.
all things being equal, Ranger Green is a much better neutral color than black or blue.
If police need to wear tactical gear then by definition, personal safety is a consideration. In a potential combat situation they under no obligation to make themselves more visible and risking their own lives for the benefit of criminals.
IE if you need to use tactical gear you are loading for bear, might as well use the solid color that gives you the best chances of surviving the encounter. Plus it looks professional, serious, but also not too militaristic
There's no legitimate use for cops to wear camo. They're not operators, they're fricking catching criminals to bring to jail.
ranger green isn't camo moron
doesn't matter, moron
why don't you worry about things like training and accountability instead of the colors of their fricking smocks ? you're wasting precious air by yapping about this nonsense.
Do you own camo?
source on his jacket? looks drippy
What exactly is considered militarization?
Patriot act carve out that gave your loser small time little city cops a bearcat/mrap and multicam uniforms plate carriers helmets nods for general use instead of just a swat team having that. Dont have the time to educate you but that should give you the gist of it enough to start googling yourself. Either way if you end up being lazy and whiny or european frick you.
get on our level
Your level is just straight sending the military altogether
I remember seeing a video of a police raid in Russia and they opened fire on a house with a BMP cannon.
America is unique in that it doesn't really have a gendarmerie force. Lots of countries can just have their top tier CT forces be military.
Sauce? There is lot of BTR (not BMP) police action footage. Do you mean a BMP-1 73mm gun? I'd love to see that.
Also "thugs" in Russia have RPGs, GPMG and AKs, so it's sort of understandable their cops are using armored vehicles as battering rams/lay down support fire.
Also russian anti-terror SF are heavily armored, because everything need to stand up to at least 7.65 tok which is the poor man 5.7. And they use their explosives either form rockets or grenades intensively which is their close combat doctrine. They don't slice the pie they grenade first ask question later.
>Hundreds of cops with military larper gear
>Won't even go into a school to stop a single random shooter
>St Louis PD
>not in Texas
Makes me want an anti material rifle
get one
A highly trained and well equipped force is a force that ultimately costs less lives on both sides.
Law enforcement is controlled by people of various political seats and judges, these people are more often the problem.
Necessary to stop gays that make killdozers to trample on our democracy
Only one killdozer was ever built and he stopped himself when the dozer broke down. Nobody did anything. Also the national guard already has necessary Anti-Tank capabilities. Police don't need this capability.
Police wear camo because they're 90IQ brutes that want to terrorize the non-police and inflate their ego. These morons think military is cool and are literally larping.
>Nobody did anything
Exactly. Cops couldn't do a thing against some guy on an unjustified rampage
>unjustified
Woo lad
ok
Indifferent. They'll break ranks once things go sideways. No real discipline outside of full-time SWAT units.
Define 'militarization' and how is it different from modernization?
>"There's a reason you separate military and the police. One fights the enemies of the state. The other serves and protects the people. When the police turns into military, then the people tend to become enemies of the state."
police is the worst race idiotic and free thinking humans natural enemy
police isnt a race
Horrible.
And it's partly a result of pro-Israeli lobbying efforts since the 1990s.
The cops also love civil forfeiture, which is stealing people's assets just because they suspect it might be made from or use in something illegal while presenting no proof or conviction.
meds
>Horrible.
>And it's partly a result of pro-Israeli lobbying efforts since the 1990s.
Please elaborate
kek truly the free place on earth
eurobro's it is us that are truly not free
it wouldn't exist if democrats weren't subsidizing the break down of social order on a massive scale that has to have been organized by the CCP
Reminder that police is supposed to mean city militia.
Militia in most basic form means every man capable of carrying a weapon.
Modern police emerged from what we today would call mercenaries.
Mafia has same origin story but they were corrupted by themselves instead of state.
Modern police are just mercenaries and pro-government extremists.
This is some serious mental illness.
>History is mental illness
KYS
>revisionism is history
unfortunately the way you wish the world was is not the way it was
Post guns, troon
You will never own a gun
This isn't guns you moron, this is trigonometry homework.
>Not even being able to identify a pair of guns
>On /k/
brah...
That’s what I thought
You are actually moronic and this entire thread stinks of redditors. Frick tourists
It’s nice if you border a country that will literally invade you. But other than that it’s just ripe for abuse
>populace armed like a military
>wonders why the cops look like a military
how stupid are you?
These /misc/ chuds will insist that they can protect themselves with their shiny toys but the truth is they are precisely the reason why the police needs to be equipped, funded, and prepared appropriately.
They are a threat to our society and our system.
>They are a threat to our society and our system.
>they can’t protect themselves
Pick one you Black personhomosexual
You are the kind of people that shoot up schools and religious temples.
You are a pest.
Breton Tarrant did nothing wrong. The pests were Muslims. You are a leftist who doesn’t own guns. Prove me wrong
1) That's hardly "militarization." Just a bunch of dudes with assault rifles and armored trucks with zero heavy weapons. Call me when you're like China and police have mbts and artillery.
2) If civilians can own ars & body armor, so should cops.
3) Its seriously weird how Americans have now modernized to an industrial nightmare of a country ever since the start of WW2 and yet still insist that police should be the tiny 19th century small town sheriffs but overseeing tens and thousands of people. And then they complain about homeless druggies overrunning cities and overworked cops.
If anybody needs a Gendarmerie its you guys.
The fat Black is the only one without two hands on their weapon. Not big surprise.
racist
>2) If civilians can own ars & body armor, so should cops.
That cuts both ways. If cops can get NFA items, explosives, and cheap armored vehicles, civilians should be able to also. Which is a fair and equal trade. Citizens would agree to that, cops would pitch a fit
Sure, then the cops get tanks and artillery, because the state will always be more armed than you.
as it should be, hobbes was right
Ok then we get to buy tanks and artillery
>because the state will always be more armed than you.
Yeah and that’s the issue. There is no reason for the “public serving” police to be more heavily armed than what the average man can buy. The military is different. Police aren’t military.
>There is no reason
There is, it wouldn't be the state if they didn't have a monopoly on violence.
>public serving
They're not there to "serve" you, they're there to enforce the law. If someone's trying to break into your house you can call the police because that's illegal, not because they're your friends. Learn the difference.
Fren we’re on the same side here. I know it’s purposeful. I’m well aware it’s structured this way to keep the people from having power and a say.
My points are from a logical/general discussion that it shouldn’t be structured this way, if the purpose is to help the community. While we may recognize anarcho-tyranny, too many do not and it’s not palatable by normies
Don't they have to set up a trust for the department?
>don't slow down fast enough
>get shot for being mistaken for a VBIED
>when I buy an assault rifle 15 and level 4 armor and plate carrier and high capacity drum mags of screwdriver bullets it's based and redpilled
>when police buy a truck gun they're oppressing my rights!
Normal people can already buy NFA items, bulletproof cars, and explosives so idk why larpers are mad about cops being able to. Stop being poor.
Until i can buy full auto the pigs don't need it either.
You can buy full auto, moron. Get a job.
Post your auto sear or kys, larper
Ok. Post yours. Or post W2
>aaaaa post guns post hands post nose -t. denies the national firearms act
Get an education too.
What? Try again with complete thoughts
Russians don't have complete thoughts
>buy NFA items
At insanely artificial prices and with months to years of waiting for something as simple as a suppressor. Cops get special treatment. Let me know when I can get a new production, full auto AR for $1000. Let me know when I can get anything made post-86.
>bulletproof cars
Which are subsidized by hand me downs from the DoD. Care to show me when and where the DoD is putting MRAPs up for auction for less than $10k. Because that’s what a lot of departments paid to buy them. Not only did my federal tax dollars go towards buying them the first time, my local tax dollars are going towards buying it again, when it will never be used for me and only against me (potentially). We are paying for our tools of oppression and aren’t even allowed the option to buy them at the same rate.
>and explosives
With a mile of extra red tape that law enforcement can avoid.
You’re being disingenuous and you know it. Which means you are a newer lefty shill/war tourist, or a badgeBlack person. Any true /k/ommando is full shall not.
>Cops get special treatment.
Because they're a part of the government so they get exceptions numnuts. They don't get to take their guns home. They stay at the station when not in use and are typically destroyed when they aren't needed anymore. Really no different than the military.
Except looking at your many, many guntubers, all of these seem available to civilians. All you need to do is have money.
Too bad the goverment has more of that than you.
Cops are civilians, you moron.
Wrong b***h glad you dont matter even in your country.
what does /k/ think of the policiazation of the military?
These people are gendarmes (men of arms).
They are meant to be military operating within civilian environement.
If I am not mistaken they are now run by the homeland ministery.
Oh, and they also have the GIGN unit, which is /k/ to an incredible point.
It's good to have a middle-ground gendarmerie corp, many countries have it
Here we have the Carabinieri who works as police, peacekeeping, military police and mil operations as well
Can't be done. States would sperg out over
>muh rights
and there would be significant institutional inertia and barriers to entry with the existence of the NG and federal law enforcement agencies.
Cops having access to heavy shit isn't necessarily a problem. The issue is that American cops have ridiculously terrible training compared to their European counterparts. We're talking months versus years here. And that's for normal beat cops, not even SWAT or other paramilitary roles. As a result cops in America generally just suck at deescalating and start going for the violent option. Now give every glorified mall cop access to some sweet toys and you've got a receipt for diaster. Just allocate the majority of the budget to training (TTPs), sort out better integration with mental health care professionals (so not every civilian undergoing a breakdown gets executed) and introduce accountability (and actually enforce it). Do that and cops might stop larping as delta force. Serve the community, not terrorise it.
American police training is a joke
tldr
Basically this. The issue isn't that the have the equipment, it's that they use it terribly
I'm not necessarily opposed to it. In a society where regular people are allowed to own what are practically military-grade arms (minus full auto), and are in many cases more well equipped than your average grunt (this is not a bad thing), police officers should be capable of responding to a threat that involves these weapons. That said, there's no real use case for shit like m113s, and police need some kind of oversight so they don't spend their money on moronic shit like that. If they didn't, maybe they'd be able to actually pay them enough to encourage professionals to join the force instead of moronic tubbos who want to bully people for a living. I've got a lot of problems with the police, but them being capable of responding to situations involving semi-auto rifles and body armor effectively is not one of them.
Also feds shouldn't have access to national guard armories. The fact that they've driven bradleys through multiple buildings when that number should be zero is fricking moronic.
Highest level law enforcement should have access to the 'best gear'. Not tanks, but APCs are fine for the heavy hitters. If anything with actual firepower is needed the NG will be mobilized anyway. Or JSOC gets to larp as FBI agents for couple of days.
Policing should not be a full time job for most beat cops. It should be like old city watches where it’s average citizens who just do a few days/nights a month. It would make everyone more responsible for the safety of their community. There would need to be checks and balances to ensure people don’t abuse it — but then, current police could also use more accountability.
>It should be like old city watches where it’s average citizens who just do a few days/nights a month.
Two words: organized crime. There's a reason why old watch systems fricking died.
Two words: government overreach. There's a reason why organized crime exploded which the government started regulating everything.
unironically have cops be exclusively like jury duty and comprised of temporarily drafted civilians.
Like if you are eligible in terms of education or fitness you have the chance of being drafted for a year to be a cop. No more sub 90 IQ brutes, just normal people trying to get through their tour of duty. Much less power tripping, people with actual life experience. Obviously for things like SWAT and more specialized roles you'd want full time professional staff, but for parking enforcement, street patrols, and everyday use could absolutely be done
shit, I live in MPLS, things were actually better when the NG had things under martial law because they were actually people and understand what it's like to be on the other side of the policing interaction. You wouldn't be selecting for Jack booted fascists who wants to power trip, just patriotic Americans and/or people looking to better their lives/escape from poverty
>No more sub 90 IQ brutes
>just normal people trying to get through their tour of duty
Most people are idiots, and don't tend to react well in stressful situations.
still better than attracting power tripping chuds who wrote "You're Fricked" on their AR as they execute citizens for not playing Simon Says correctly
seriously I would feel much safer even having NG 11Bs in my neighborhood rather than the current power tripping police
Imagine having PrepHoleners drafted to your neighborhood. You know some of them are going to be mentally unstable types with weird knives, emotional outbursts, etc.
you would draft physically fit and educated people. Not PrepHole posters
We have a board called PrepHole, you can be athletic (and even educated) while still being a frickup of a human being.
You aren't a frickup if you're fit. I can't even comprehend an example of what you've posited would even look like.
Being PrepHole lets you frick up in all new ways unavailable to flabbier men.
Go to PrepHole and find out
Oh, so now you want standards? It's not everyone can play anymore?
Pretty soon you're going to be worried about jury compensation money aka wages, then regulations and insurance, and finally training, and you'll be back at the start.
Awfully high self image you have
"Drafts" only happen in the military and under strenuous circumstances for a reason.
>chuds
Go back. Do not post gun. Do not collect $200.
>It should be like old city watches where it’s average citizens who just do a few days/nights a month.
Average citizens are even dumber then cops.
Imagine getting pulled over for speeding by some White trash Walmart customer with a gun...
Jesus christ this is the scariest bit about all of the incoherent schizo rambling. They would see a bunch of rednecks running around lynching anyone they didnt like as a good thing. Shit like the salem witch trials goes to show that shit like that doesnt work. All it takes is a group of people so absolutely delusional they believe anything said by the group and a bunch of people get the rope for no fricking reason. "The good old days" were never good.
>The good old day after 9/11
That’s how the acceleration of the militarization of the police is happing anon.
>All it takes is a group of people so absolutely delusional they believe anything said by the group
The irony of this statement
>t leftist bootlicker
Fine anon.
>Imagine getting pulled over and held at gunpoint for speeding (when you weren't) by 80IQ Tyrone and his boys Big Purple and Thugg Shaker.
There, is that legible in your specific political argot?
>Seggs with tyrone
Uwu dropping the soap it’s balin’
Anon put the new forgis on the jeep
don't a lot of cities have auxiliary part-time cops?
Do you have any examples?
it's inevitable that the state of the art solution to a problem spread to everybody that has the money to spend on it. The attempt to demilitarize the police will fail in all cases for exactly the same reason as gun bans.
ok
Modern police are less on par in terms of military equipment than they were in the early to mid 20th Century.
>Tommy guns
>BARs
>Full auto everywhere
>Armored cars when the army were rocking soft skins.
MRAPs, ballistic plates and carbines are not "militarization", it's called the tools required to deal with all the 80 IQ active shooters and crackheads holding hostages.
>it's called the tools required to deal with all the 80 IQ active shooters
The problem isn't their equipment, its their general lack of balls against anyone that could shoot back
>The problem isn't their equipment, its their general lack of balls against anyone that could shoot back
The problem was with the Uvalde forces. Look at Nashville or a plethora of other shootings and you see officers rushing in to deal with the mentally ill moron on the other side. Rinkydink forces and corrupt city admins are the problem forces in America.
it's an extension of national guard
other way around
This entire thread proves to me that once again none of you know what you're talking about. Especially ones who are so deluded into thinking they can get rid of the police and set up their own group. Except it's totally not the police but even fricking worse.
That's even been mentioned in this very thread. But people are stupid and think they don't need no system, its only holding them back.
That chaz thing or whatever it was literally had a shitty self created police force that gunned down an unarmed black kid in a SUV and then executed him.
>Especially ones who are so deluded into thinking they can get rid of the police and set up their own group
Best thing bongland ever did was disarm all the beat cops. The typical copper has pepper spray and a stick
Bongland has the advantage of their population not being so moronic and being shot at random is seemingly an everpresent fear you need to guard against.
>Bongland has the advantage of their population not being so moronic
Kek. Sure. Whatever you say
Police should be subject to the exact same gun control laws as the general public in their jurisdiction
Why?
Correct. They're starting to in california of all places due to their abuse of off roster private sales putting them straight into b***h your an arms dealer now you need an ffl and to pay taxes. Police union finally said gun laws are unconstitutional when it started affecting them.
Literally all of them could die tomorrow and no sector of society would suffer
meme propagated by morons
they see an APC or armored van and think "oh my god, is that a heckin' tank ? is that body armor ? CAMOUFLAGE ? literally 1984!!"
fricking morons
You ignorant manchild. You probably dont even know what the "patriot" act is or what it started. Frick you.
>what the "patriot" act is or what it started
They're just codifying what they've always been doing you dumb Black person. They would still do that shit even without the patriot act.
I live in a ban state and I hate everything.
SWAT exists, national guard exists. Traffic cops don't need all this shit, it's not made their roles.
Where do you live that traffic cops get all this shit ? pretty sure most cops in america are rolling in unarmored cruisers and carry a handgun.
My town of 18k has 4 armored transport vehicles & 2 forensic RV's, that's just what you can see from the public roads. I went to get food at a chinese hole in the wall and like 6-8 cops decked out in military bullshit came in made it feel like I was living in an active war zone. It's not common now but if nobody tells them enough is enough expect DUI checkpoints to start looking like military checkpoints where you're treated like a third rate citizen and humiliated for no reason.
pretty sure most of them have an AR and armor in their cruiser now
something about how don't have partners anymore and back up won't get there in time
Armor is standard with any police force, the AR is reasonable if it's america.
Police in any country are given automatic weapons depending on role and where they're stationed, or given a higher alert level.
Cities with high rates of armed robbery, gang warfare and hostage situations I get it. For some low crime suburb its fricking moronic.
>neverserveds larping as military men
>refuse to work when their feefees get hurt
I am in genuine awe unruly groups aren't simply kicked off and replaced wholesale. They're quickly reaching third world dysfunction.
Schizos said feds were legitimate targets in their war-larp fantasies. Cops are simply giving them what they wanted lel.
It makes sense from a budgetary standpoint. The military has a frickload of old weapons, the police need some niche weapons in their arsenal just in case, sell the weapons to the police force. The issue isn't so much this process as it is everything surrounding it. Police forces are overeager to deploy SWAT teams, the police operate with as little transparency and accountability as they can get away with, absolutely piss poor training and standards for an incredibly taxing and dangerous job.
it's bad. police should do their job of suppressing minorities instead of running around acting like commandos
If civilians have AR15's, its no wonder that police want to have plate carriers and armored cars
Also they're probably larping just a tad
Frick the police.
>that t-shirt
oooooh shit zogbots are next level cringe
Operator culture really was a horrible thing for the world. I highly doubt any of you will agree with it, but it has ruined so much shit. Also, frick the police.
if it means military scale Black person obliteration i support it
It will always be used against law abiding whites and not criminals
militarization of the police wouldn't be such a problem if America didn't love their guns so much.
Americans have decided that police militarization is an acceptable price for such freedoms.
as long as it's for sheriff chitGOD i am fine with it
completely unnecessary and inefficient. Also redundant since the national guard exists
>AM I BEING DETAINED?
It would be fine if it came with a unified military command structure instead of a union that allows the "soldiers," to violate direct orders and say "frick you, pay me more and I'll think about it," to their commander.
Imagine if the military was routinely forced to rehire and give backpay to soldiers it fired for poor performance, getting into bar fights, DUIs, etc. That's the police union system today; guys are impossible to fire.
I live in south america, we dont have an option
Me gusta
>Brazilin BOPE with M92fs
Why no u no use a TARUS 92
when youve been arresting your fellow citizens for drinking beer in order to pay your department bills
They need to look like an occupying military to keep you scared of them!
>Defund the Police? Just stop drinking alcohol and driving an automobile and most police depts. will go broke within 2 months, stop going to bars and the citys tax base with collapse!
No money to be had with Domestic disputes and those are down right dangerous and with then hiring of female police a Domestic dispute take 3-10 officers to write a report and to protect the 8 female cops!
>uses Jack Nicholson truth handle meme
I love that golfer
was NYC really as crazy as mad bull 34 portrays or is it just cultural misunderstanding the Japs had of us New Yorkers?
Reminds me of the quote about if the public just didn't speak and let a lawyer speak for them police and courts would go bankrupt in a month.
That said let's be honest, they could come up with new means of hall monitoring you. Going 37 in a 35 Mph zone, jaywalking, ect.
I once jaywalked with my bike, was very close to getting flattened by an 18 wheeler 🙂
I am the anon you replied to, I do understand fricking with jaywalking when you're dealing with a busy street. It's more some rule lawyering where it's just "Cmon homie chill out, just browbeat em about not doing it again no reason to cite them".
A quote I remember possibly from NYC's current mayor or some other major official was that it's 'worse' in NYC now because back then you knew the rules of the game - don't be out at night, avoid X neighborhood, don't do ABC and you're safe" whereas now it's literally just get merced or fricked up in broad daylight on a busy street in an otherwise safe location.
Mad bull is clearly going to be playing up the insanity for dramatic points but NYC was plenty nasty.
https://www.disastercenter.com/crime/nycrime.htm
Murder was 2605 at the height in 1990, burglarly was ~360,000 at the height, larceny theft 535k, robbery 112k.
Also
>Forcible rape was 2797 in 2010
>Fricking 6,583 in 2019
>That's higher than during the worst of the 80s.
>So 1980s anime mad bull 34 NYC was more tame with rape then modern day big apple
Shit damn that hits hard mai homie
Yeh. I'm not a New york resident so I'm just picking up from what I remember reading. Wish I could recall this great 2001 book that was full of real gonzo journalists who went out to nasty hot spots in the world for real hardcore risky exposes. Lebanon in the 80s, journalist on a plane taken hostage, Afghanistan after Soviets, Eritrea, the works. It ended with a chapter on LA riots and NYC. NYC just felt more fetid and disgusting whereas LA was and remains the biggest modern proof of why gun ownership is invaluable.
But to put it into context:
"Today" (past 4 years too lazy to get exact date) St Louis MO is the most dangerous city with a crime rate of 70 per 1,000 residents. Chance of a victim of violent or property crime is 1 in 14. Crime rate per 1k residents is 14.96 for violent, 55.05 for property.
https://pricetheory.uchicago.edu/levitt/Papers/LevittUnderstandingWhyCrime2004.pdf
NYC in 1990 was the peak of homicide. Homicde rate was 30.7 per 100,000. In other words:
>St Louis 2020s = Chance to suffer violent crime - not necessarily murder
14.96 out of 100,000
>NYC 1990 = chance to suffer murder.
30.7 out of 100,000.
So, take St Louis Missouri today and double it. While we're at it I am too lazy to crunch numbers but safely assume for the worst behavior of Seattle and Baltimore and Portland and let's double or triple it.
That's NYC in 1990. NYC in 1990 was twice as dangerous as fricking St Louis today.
>Upstate New Yorker I am to be correct. Damn did 9/11 have any impact on crime in NYC?
>9/11 impact on crime
Sebastian Junker mentioned in the Tribe Book that suicides plummeted after 9-11. No pun intended with the word plummeted. Otherwise I don't know, but the popular cultural understanding is that Rudy Guiliani in the 90s and early 2000s before he went a bit loony really transformed NYC with broken window policing
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Broken_windows_theory
Which holds that petty minor crimes (like not paying subway fare, petty larceny of chips or whatever, littering, jaywalking) will become a festering breeding ground for greater crime.
This probably coupled with 'stop and frisk' which is 'randomly' stopping people on the street to check if they have guns or drugs. I think only dipshit crime-apologists can argue against broken window policing (Even if I defended mild jaywalking earlier). Stop and frisk is a more complicated one because I can see the merits of being against
>"You're walking while black now I get to frisk you for no reason other than being a homie".
But in any case the going was good and gentrification was making lods of emone during Guiliani and the slimy wannabe-Emperor-Xi we all know and loath, Bloomberg. It's after him you get that first tweedle dumb I forget the name of and now you get the former squeegie-boy and vegan tyrant former cop whose mayor of NYC now. Along with Chicago they seem to be gluttons for punishment since at least Minneapolis went "Hey uh, maybe we shouldn't abolish the police" and rescinded some of their stupider policies post Floyd.
Awesome 9/11 really helped make NYC a tiny bit safer with less suicides. That is so freakin b***h cha’.
yeah but after 911 the average price of an apartment in NYC cost in the $3-$4 $5K to $350K a month range.
People with that kind of money to spend are making good money and dont want to kill themselves. Better statistics would to look into the suburbs of MJ Penn and Coon to see if suicide rates increased there!
Also city government doesnt like to put out stats that could effect thier governance!
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Broken_windows_theory#Criticism
Budwieser just lost $4 Billion dollars through a troony!
>Imagine the money they have been funneling to the police and court houses via DUI and State & City Tax's!
Another blatant example of government overreach that bootlickers will justify by saying "you only need to worry of you commit a crime". No different to the Patriot Act or Stop and Search laws
In a non political fashion sense, means seeing more sexy officers in tactical digital Camo gear 😉
Militarization of fire fighter uniforms swag aesthetics orange digital camo should be more used in us local fire departments just like the Philippines
Congratulations, your fellow firefighters now have a harder time seeing you
>Congrats
They wear the cool orange digital cam dress uniforms for parades/pr/formal events this is what the Pinoys fight fires in
They look so cool for a militarized fire fighter dress uniform.
Same vain as navy digital blue camo ineffective but aesthetically beautiful
>that nozzleperson
If that were a live hose she'd have no chance
Would militarized firefighters would need flamethrowers like the ones in Fahrenheit 451
yes, to cut off "wild fires"
You cereal cuz if u are data Awesome poggersauce
No, they'd just use halligans and chainsaws
Right to bear arms even Muslims and Irish Catholics should have that right. Just live laugh love, man you’ll live longer dude.
>fight fires
pight pires* na
Frick the police.
It's bullshit and I hate it but it's the only way to corral hordes of blacks when they decide to burn everything down for fun
Meh, if they want gwot gibs then i say go for it.
Cops are not militarized. Only homosexuals believe so.
The moment the local cops gets an MBT, and drones with hellfires, apache helicopters, i will believe you.
A cop with a rifle is no more militarized than a non cop with a rifle. Anti gun bullshit.
Lmao look at all these people thinking they are some kind of Vietnamese/Afghanistan resistance fighter.
No you won't do jackshit.
You will be slaughtered like the pigs at WACO.
The best you are going to do is call some falseflag fed shooting up random stragglers an inspiration.
Pathetic.
https://theintercept.com/2023/04/20/atlanta-cop-city-protester-autopsy/
Did you know that racism out of /b/ is against the rules of PrepHole?
found the nig
It's ridiculous. 95% of PDs and feds don't need about 90% of their toys. And if those resources would not be spend on military gear they'd probably be more effective. Driving down the highway with an MRAP thats no longer in production at 2.4 MPG is just moronic.
You are a bunch of terrorists and deserve nothing but contempt.
Looks like he should had brought a grenade with him.
looks like he shouldnt have even been there to me
Seems like they're being goaded into a USSR-style situation where eventually the upkeep of policing the population becomes too high for them to maintain.
Necessary to maintain law and order.
gay. leo exemptions to gun laws shouldn't exist. anyone who disagrees is a traitor.
The state should have a monopoly on violence
The political and rich elite having a literal army is always a bad idea.
>Germany
>Supposedly full of violent immigrants
>No guns
>Parts of the police force doesn't even have guns
>Average of 20 SHOTS fired per year
>Yet America hast 5 times more homicides per capita and eleven times more rapes per capita than Germany
Ah it feels good to live in an actual first world country that >muh guns mutts can only cope and seethe about
ich hoffe deine dreckige Schlampenmutter wird vergewaltigt
also why the frick are you on a gun board if you dont like them, ukrainian dick sucker
Wie reizend
I never said i was against guns. Switzerland and Finnland are doing fine. America ist the problem
Also, you're mistaken, this ist a weapons board, not just guns
Cope
>ukraine out of nowhere
Black person, ukraine has more gunrights than america at this point ever since they laxed their gun laws. Not sure why you're insulting them when they are the most pro gun nations out there at this moment.
Yeah except German cops are actually allowed to beat the frick out of criminals and browns
>Yet America hast 5 times more homicides per capita and eleven times more rapes per capita than Germany
Look at the homicide rate of white Americans
They need to spend more money on training than gear.
Not far enough, I want to see A-10s BRRRRRTing 30mm rubber bullets and dropping cluster tear gas bombs on riots
>militarization
Aren't majority of cops gear just bought from the civilian market? How is it "militarization" when they just get basic b***h gear that anybody can get? Is it the camo?
yeah