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  1. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Necessary for the protection of our democracy.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      So they're gonna be deployed against right wing insurrectionists?

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        trolling outside of /b/

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      So they're gonna be deployed against right wing insurrectionists?

      https://i.imgur.com/Py1kSQE.jpg

      ultimately necessary as Black personhomosexuals continue to escalate their moronic arms race against the state instead of participating in it to try and improve society, though i am not happy about it.

      newsflash morons: if you don't want to live under tyranny, go vote for whoever you believe in. your cabin in the woods won't save you.

      Early morning third world glowie D&C shill posts.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Sneed

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        I wonder if GPTs have freed up a lot of their resources, enabling them to shill much harder.
        It's quite stiff here so they must be afraid. Flak over target and all that.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >third world glowie D&C shill posts.
        >Third World
        >Glowie
        What does this even mean? Are you just slapping a bunch of words together?

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          You've never visited DC before have you anon?

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >incendiary topic
        >mass reply to the first handful of posts

        just like the waco thread. weird

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >We must militarize the police to suppress the people for democracy
      >The police are always right and the government is unquestionable

      Yeah, sure bud.

      This is to protect the standing regime, not to protect democracy.

      It's been a slow build-up since Obama and police militarization policy.

      This is an authoritarian move that would not be out of place in a despotic third world country.

      Yet, by some unexpected grace, the police continue to volunteer for Patriot militias. I live in a rural part of the US and know the local police, they are in the militias as well. This is relevant to weapons, the military, and the militarization of the police.

      So, this ends up backfiring. This equipment ends up in the hands of police, who are now a big part of these anti-government militias. Same with actual veterans with combat training, they started this whole thing. So, it ends up benefiting us. It's like Sun Tzu said, why destroy what can be captured? Our cause is true. The cops join our ranks on their own volition out of love for their country, we don't need to persuade or deceive.

      If this regime wants to try and run our beloved USA like a Latin American dictatorship, then expect insurgent freedom fighters like in a Latin American dictatorship. Law enforcement, veterans, even active military who are prepared for revolutionary war. Expect righteous revolution.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        This brutish approach to civil unrest reveals an uneasy status quo and a corrupt government that is clearly concerned for its own survival above the interests of the people. This is how it dies, they are digging themselves into a hole that only serves as a grave for their dying machine. The harder they fight against the reality of the situation, the sharper the truth becomes.

        Things could be so much better. This nation could be peaceful, prosperous, and strong. Instead of endless war, growing poverty, and instability. This nation can be greater than it ever was before, but not under the decay of zionist occupation.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

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        moronic

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          no u

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >Yet, by some unexpected grace, the police continue to volunteer for Patriot militias. I live in a rural part of the US and know the local police, they are in the militias as well.
        It's posts like these that remind me of the times when some right-wing Meal Team Six snatch-and-grab "militia" trained in high caloric destruction gets dispatched from their HQ in Golden Corral to terminate their nearest ice cream section with extreme prejudice, and they get immediately busted and it turns out they were part of cop-run training camp the whole time, and they can't even begin to fathom what it all means.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >We must militarize the police to suppress the people for democracy
          >The police are always right and the government is unquestionable

          Yeah, sure bud.

          This is to protect the standing regime, not to protect democracy.

          It's been a slow build-up since Obama and police militarization policy.

          This is an authoritarian move that would not be out of place in a despotic third world country.

          Yet, by some unexpected grace, the police continue to volunteer for Patriot militias. I live in a rural part of the US and know the local police, they are in the militias as well. This is relevant to weapons, the military, and the militarization of the police.

          So, this ends up backfiring. This equipment ends up in the hands of police, who are now a big part of these anti-government militias. Same with actual veterans with combat training, they started this whole thing. So, it ends up benefiting us. It's like Sun Tzu said, why destroy what can be captured? Our cause is true. The cops join our ranks on their own volition out of love for their country, we don't need to persuade or deceive.

          If this regime wants to try and run our beloved USA like a Latin American dictatorship, then expect insurgent freedom fighters like in a Latin American dictatorship. Law enforcement, veterans, even active military who are prepared for revolutionary war. Expect righteous revolution.

          Reminder that the J6 PF Black folk were forty federal agents and five patsies.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Source?

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              Ask your girlfriend’s other boyfriend.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >since Obama
        Frick I hate zoomers. News flash this shit has been going on since at least the GWOT, which was Dubya and his dumb-ass neocon cronies.

        https://i.imgur.com/zowlpJ7.jpg

        What does /k/ think of the militarization of police?

        Stupid as frick since the police are staffed by barely literate high school dropouts with a GED and 3 months of community college training. Businesses want their scarecrows to have bigger and badder looking weapons thinking it'll stop looters.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >News flash this shit has been going on since at least the GWOT
          It has been going on since the federal government tried to enforce prohibition. It has continued with the anti-mob FBI and forced integration.

          Waco and Ruby Ridge were not new, they were just well reported. The war on drugs is all about giving police unconstitutional powers to trespass, spy, and steal lawful property without judicial oversight or due process.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        The frick? It started under Bush, Obama tried to scale it back then Trump put it in overdrive.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Obama tried to scale it back? Source? Trump blah blah, source?

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >Obama
        *Bush
        If you want to get really spicy to piss off the boomers, arguably Reagan

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >If you want to get really spicy to piss off the boomers, arguably Reagan

          True. Reagan was elected in part because of the 1960s-70s Dems soft-on-crime-revolving-door-prison policies and police militarization has been increasing ever since.

          • 1 year ago
            mackin

            Regan is doo doo and Hughes too, checkmate Reganites

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              >finger on the trigger while taking the suppressor off

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Unnecessary.

      Decidedly not.

      Also Posse Commitus allows the federal military to defend US borders. Arresting border hoppers is not a law enforcement task, it is a sovereignty preserving federal task that the federal government is required to do in article 4 of the constitution.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      "OUR" Democracy...

      Every time I hear that, my blood boils.

      Democracy is democracy. It belongs to no one. To claim ownership of a millennia-old political concept reeks of bourgeois narcissism...

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >bourgeois
        Cry some moar commie.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          wrong

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >It belongs to no one
        Don't care, didn't ask, country is not for sale.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        i hereby thusly upvote your karma my good sir

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >"OUR" Democracy...
        >Every time I hear that, my blood boils.
        >Democracy is democracy. It belongs to no one. To claim ownership of a millennia-old political concept reeks of
        Agreed..
        >bourgeois
        ooof get in the oven commie homosexual homosexual

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      i will rape you to death

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      protection from what?

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Criminals?
        What do you think happens when society has no law enforcement.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          I find the ongoing fracas and sliding in the pacific coast funny, as people that live in cities like Seattle always pretend everyone that doesn't vote with them is unintelligent and unsophisticated. Fitting it is that their culture births something strikingly reminiscent to a film about the degeneration of society into something little better than proto-morlocks.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          of our democracy

          what does the police do that protects democracy? isnt this just giving police more power and influence over your democracy?

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >What do you think happens when society has no law enforcement
          The same thing that happened nearly everywhere in world pre 1900. Life went along swimmingly

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >world pre 1900. Life went along swimmingly
            Enjoy your septicaemia, homosexual.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              >nooooo you can’t have societal cohesion AND technological progress
              Those aren’t mutually exclusive and I’d love for you to explain why cops were responsible for the technological progress over the past 100 or so years

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >societal cohesion
                You've got some serious fricking rose-tinted glasses on for a time period from long before you were alive.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >I’d love for you to explain why cops were responsible for the technological progress over the past 100 or so years
                Nothing? That was your implication

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Nah you are just a spastic. What I'm
                >implying
                is you are moronic for looking at the pre 1900's as a "better time".

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >Enjoy your septicaemia, homosexual.
                You didn’t imply shit. You outright said it. Man I should have clocked your backpedal considering how fast it was

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                You somehow didn't grasp that was sarcasm, even though the implying was in greentext? Are you actually moronic anon.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >it was just a joke
                If you were joking and it was sarcasm you would have said that as your next reply. You wouldn’t say I had rose tinted classes and then double down and call the 1900s a bad time.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >pic
          Anon... Loose soil on cardboard is basically standard procedure for small, educational pop-up planting workshops. It's a cheap material, lets you easily gather the dirt you've brought there to demo on, and it doesn't harm the turf below.
          Just like a school desk at math class isn't meant to be a supercomputer, a messy temporary planting spot used for educational demonstration isn't ever meant to be a farm.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >isn't ever meant to be a farm.
            The point of that garden was supposedly to make Chaz food independent.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Schizos and incels

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          ok

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Larp is larp

      Spead your butt cheeks wider bootlick, the ATF still can't get their whole fist in

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      we unironically need a centralized national gendarmerie

      At the same time get rid of municipal police forces and replace them with a centralized state one, and draft private citizens to do tours of duty as police. Only have the gendarmerie armed, and require at least a bachelor's to enlist

      >primarily responsible for internal security, riot control, counter-terrorism, disaster response, law enforcement and maritime rights protection as well as providing support to the US Army during wartime.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        You'll just get nasty girls who don't give a shit about the area they're "protecting and serving." Cops should all be local. If anything there's less reason for state police to exist.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        You are insane. The problem is not fixed by trying to create some super organisation responsible for everything out of randomly forcefully drafted individuals.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          I trust the state to hold police accountable than whatever bubba good ol' boy that just happens to be from the area.

          I'm talking actual militarization of police. Have separate enlisted, NCO, warrant, and Commissioned corps. Specific tours of duty and deployments, tighter ROEs, constant training, retraining, cross training. Make it a professional, formalized, and prestigious organization. US Civil Guard as part of DHS

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >I trust the state to hold police accountable
            Who the frick is holding them accountable? Themselves? Good fricking joke

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          I actually think that's not so bad an idea, as it makes the police accountable to the the federal government in the same way the Coast Guard and National Guard are, and entices doing their jobs or else their money gets siphoned away and given to the non-dysfunctional branches instead.

          The military has shown over the past two decades its a better police force than the actual police are, and if they can't offer a comparable performance, why the hell should the American tax payer bleed money for both?

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        You are insane. The problem is not fixed by trying to create some super organisation responsible for everything out of randomly forcefully drafted individuals.

        I trust the state to hold police accountable than whatever bubba good ol' boy that just happens to be from the area.

        I'm talking actual militarization of police. Have separate enlisted, NCO, warrant, and Commissioned corps. Specific tours of duty and deployments, tighter ROEs, constant training, retraining, cross training. Make it a professional, formalized, and prestigious organization. US Civil Guard as part of DHS

        I actually think that's not so bad an idea, as it makes the police accountable to the the federal government in the same way the Coast Guard and National Guard are, and entices doing their jobs or else their money gets siphoned away and given to the non-dysfunctional branches instead.

        The military has shown over the past two decades its a better police force than the actual police are, and if they can't offer a comparable performance, why the hell should the American tax payer bleed money for both?

        Theres a bunch of reasons why this is a bad idea, first of all the feds are already not being held accountable when they do wrong, second of all the military operates under the UCMJ, which is a lot stricter than civilian law in regards to "oops i killed some civilian in her sleep". Finally the chief of police or sheriff being elected is a way better accountability program than you being able to register a complaint in DC via fax machine.

        And in the end we'd still be talking about a job that is risky, has you working all kinds of weird shifts and whatnot, and a lot of training requirements to actually pull off having a decent department. So you're not exactly getting the cream of the crop anyways. And can you imagine some big shot fedboi getting sent to bumfrick nowhere? the guys gonna be applying for a change of station ASAP. Meaning every few years or so everything in your PD goes to shit, because theres a new guy that noone knows or even trusts in town.

        And we haven't even talked about states, counties or cities and their actual RIGHT to police their jurisdiction, or how a centralized agency will train all the differences in local laws.

        Last but not least = centralization bad. nazi gestapo bad.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      You're such a massive homosexual. "Our" democracy, frick off Black person.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Agent smith, pls do better. Despite being in your nesting stage these fails do not look good on you your or your trainers.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >Glowie

      To think that glowies are slowly polluting their minds with PrepHole that eventually they'll become salty boomers shitposting on /k/ outside of their work hours. The only difference is their Xe/Xir/Xem grandpersons will be asking what they did when working for the Mighty Glow and they'll equate shilling on PrepHole as fighting to protect democracy.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        What would you do if you came across that while innawoods?

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          360° and walk away

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            360° is a full rotation

  2. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    ultimately necessary as Black personhomosexuals continue to escalate their moronic arms race against the state instead of participating in it to try and improve society, though i am not happy about it.

    newsflash morons: if you don't want to live under tyranny, go vote for whoever you believe in. your cabin in the woods won't save you.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >>Just ask them politely to stop stripping you of rights and freedoms
      me bro

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        who is them? the israelites?

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >no one
          >literally no one
          >starts mentioning DA JOOOOS

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          No, the American Aristocracy
          If you want to try to dismiss the truth by decrying racism go ahead, but it is all class warfare, always has been

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          The politicians, both left and right. They all hate the idea of an armed populace because it threatens their power.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >defund the police
      >the police will take down maga and its guns

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >Thinking voting changes anything
      NGMI

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Do nothing then, do the same thing you've been doing and hoping things will be different.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >vote for whoever you believe in
      LEMAO

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      when has "innawoods" ever worked out for insurgents?

      "innacity" or "innametro" seems to be a legitimate insurgency strategy, but rural innawoods seemds pretty stupid.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >when has "innawoods" ever worked out for insurgents?

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          That works a lot better when basically the whole country is rural and agrarian

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Tbf, it's most often "onnamountain" or "innacave"

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >gets absolutely demolished in one of their offensives
          Not a great example when the NVA carried them. They were trained by the soviets to only get wiped out in the tet offensive.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >Vietnam divided into communist North and non-communist South
          >China/Russia kept funding/supplying North Vietnam who in turn kept funding/supplying the insurgents in South Vietnam
          >South Vietnam keeps repressing the locals and banning Buddhism which makes the locals angry
          >South Vietnam is completely filled with jungles/mountains and almost completely rural except the only major city of Saigon.
          >US military never invaded North Vietnam

          did Americans delude themselves into thinking they could somehow defeat the insurgents and keep South Vietnam going forever?

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            America did defeat the insurgency, though. But you ASSUME that North Vietnam didn't have a professional army, which they did. The main reason america didn't invade the north was because they feared Chinese intervention. So america only just hoped to stop the conflict while also fortifying the north so that they can defend themselves.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >"innawoods"
          You mean innatunnel
          Also, unless the Canadians let you use them as a Ho Chi Mihn trail good luck getting supplied.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >Canadians
            It'll be the Mexicans.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      You should vote AND prepare to go full Uncle Ted. The two are not mutually exclusive.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >go vote for whoever you believe in
      My beliefs are not represented because of systematic political suppression, so I have no one to vote for. What I do know is if the government tries to disarm me I will use my gun on any agents who attempt to take it.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      That is the saddest failure of a demoralizer post i have ever seen and i saw and read everything throughout the obama era. Cope harder.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      frick off bootlicking radlib you're not gonna turn /k/ into fricking PrepHole/r/sra

  3. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    i hate cops
    i hate cops
    you know how often i've thought "wow i really wish there was a cop here to help me"?
    never

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      An interaction with cops is either voluntary or involuntary.

      Involuntary:
      You’re either being robbed by modern-day highwaymen, or someone is outsourcing their violence to the state I.e. you’re a criminal and otherwise would have been shot by your victim, or deterred entirely by the prospect of being shot - immediate violence is a more reliable deterrent than future violence.

      Voluntary:
      You are in need of the service of violence I.e. you need a gun but don’t have one

      So there, guns replace cops.

      But cops are inevitable. The state is on the order of mathematically guaranteed to exist and you are guaranteed to be the livestock they rob for sustenance.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        There's more to having a system of law enforcement than simply shooting things. Not all concepts are direct things you can fire a bullet at.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          I get that, I’m being hyperbolic, but the chief role of law enforcement is still coercion. They are, after all, an appendage of the state.

  4. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    please ditch the camo and go back to wearing black + navy blue

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      What's the point of wearing green camo when they mostly operate in cities?

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        what's the point of wearing camo at all when you're a police officer

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Possibly some sort of armed response team might benefit from it depending on the sort of operations they deal with, but not regular police sitting around holding their dicks outside a school as it gets shot up because going inside is too scary despite all their expensive gear.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          So they can larp as soldiers who are fighting an enemy. And they see everyone who isn’t a cop as an enemy

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Intimidation. The idea is that if some barricaded butthole sees a glimpse of a srt/swat wearing shit like that with ARs/M4s theres a degree of de-escalation. Also full kits feel better in actual uniforms ngl.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        all things being equal, Ranger Green is a much better neutral color than black or blue.

        If police need to wear tactical gear then by definition, personal safety is a consideration. In a potential combat situation they under no obligation to make themselves more visible and risking their own lives for the benefit of criminals.

        IE if you need to use tactical gear you are loading for bear, might as well use the solid color that gives you the best chances of surviving the encounter. Plus it looks professional, serious, but also not too militaristic

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          There's no legitimate use for cops to wear camo. They're not operators, they're fricking catching criminals to bring to jail.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            ranger green isn't camo moron

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            doesn't matter, moron
            why don't you worry about things like training and accountability instead of the colors of their fricking smocks ? you're wasting precious air by yapping about this nonsense.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Do you own camo?

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          source on his jacket? looks drippy

  5. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    What exactly is considered militarization?

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Patriot act carve out that gave your loser small time little city cops a bearcat/mrap and multicam uniforms plate carriers helmets nods for general use instead of just a swat team having that. Dont have the time to educate you but that should give you the gist of it enough to start googling yourself. Either way if you end up being lazy and whiny or european frick you.

  6. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    get on our level

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Your level is just straight sending the military altogether

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        I remember seeing a video of a police raid in Russia and they opened fire on a house with a BMP cannon.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          America is unique in that it doesn't really have a gendarmerie force. Lots of countries can just have their top tier CT forces be military.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Sauce? There is lot of BTR (not BMP) police action footage. Do you mean a BMP-1 73mm gun? I'd love to see that.
          Also "thugs" in Russia have RPGs, GPMG and AKs, so it's sort of understandable their cops are using armored vehicles as battering rams/lay down support fire.

          Also russian anti-terror SF are heavily armored, because everything need to stand up to at least 7.65 tok which is the poor man 5.7. And they use their explosives either form rockets or grenades intensively which is their close combat doctrine. They don't slice the pie they grenade first ask question later.

  7. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >Hundreds of cops with military larper gear
    >Won't even go into a school to stop a single random shooter

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >St Louis PD
      >not in Texas

  8. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Makes me want an anti material rifle

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      get one

  9. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    A highly trained and well equipped force is a force that ultimately costs less lives on both sides.
    Law enforcement is controlled by people of various political seats and judges, these people are more often the problem.

  10. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Necessary to stop gays that make killdozers to trample on our democracy

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Only one killdozer was ever built and he stopped himself when the dozer broke down. Nobody did anything. Also the national guard already has necessary Anti-Tank capabilities. Police don't need this capability.

      what's the point of wearing camo at all when you're a police officer

      Police wear camo because they're 90IQ brutes that want to terrorize the non-police and inflate their ego. These morons think military is cool and are literally larping.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >Nobody did anything
        Exactly. Cops couldn't do a thing against some guy on an unjustified rampage

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >unjustified

          Woo lad

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      ok

  11. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Indifferent. They'll break ranks once things go sideways. No real discipline outside of full-time SWAT units.

  12. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Define 'militarization' and how is it different from modernization?

  13. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >"There's a reason you separate military and the police. One fights the enemies of the state. The other serves and protects the people. When the police turns into military, then the people tend to become enemies of the state."

  14. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    police is the worst race idiotic and free thinking humans natural enemy

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      police isnt a race

  15. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Horrible.
    And it's partly a result of pro-Israeli lobbying efforts since the 1990s.

    The cops also love civil forfeiture, which is stealing people's assets just because they suspect it might be made from or use in something illegal while presenting no proof or conviction.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      meds

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >Horrible.
      >And it's partly a result of pro-Israeli lobbying efforts since the 1990s.
      Please elaborate

  16. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    kek truly the free place on earth

    eurobro's it is us that are truly not free

  17. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    it wouldn't exist if democrats weren't subsidizing the break down of social order on a massive scale that has to have been organized by the CCP

  18. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Reminder that police is supposed to mean city militia.
    Militia in most basic form means every man capable of carrying a weapon.
    Modern police emerged from what we today would call mercenaries.
    Mafia has same origin story but they were corrupted by themselves instead of state.
    Modern police are just mercenaries and pro-government extremists.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      This is some serious mental illness.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >History is mental illness
        KYS

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >revisionism is history
          unfortunately the way you wish the world was is not the way it was

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Post guns, troon

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous
          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            You will never own a gun

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            This isn't guns you moron, this is trigonometry homework.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              >Not even being able to identify a pair of guns
              >On /k/
              brah...

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            That’s what I thought

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      You are actually moronic and this entire thread stinks of redditors. Frick tourists

  19. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    It’s nice if you border a country that will literally invade you. But other than that it’s just ripe for abuse

  20. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >populace armed like a military
    >wonders why the cops look like a military
    how stupid are you?

  21. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    These /misc/ chuds will insist that they can protect themselves with their shiny toys but the truth is they are precisely the reason why the police needs to be equipped, funded, and prepared appropriately.
    They are a threat to our society and our system.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >They are a threat to our society and our system.
      >they can’t protect themselves
      Pick one you Black personhomosexual

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        You are the kind of people that shoot up schools and religious temples.
        You are a pest.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Breton Tarrant did nothing wrong. The pests were Muslims. You are a leftist who doesn’t own guns. Prove me wrong

  22. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    1) That's hardly "militarization." Just a bunch of dudes with assault rifles and armored trucks with zero heavy weapons. Call me when you're like China and police have mbts and artillery.
    2) If civilians can own ars & body armor, so should cops.
    3) Its seriously weird how Americans have now modernized to an industrial nightmare of a country ever since the start of WW2 and yet still insist that police should be the tiny 19th century small town sheriffs but overseeing tens and thousands of people. And then they complain about homeless druggies overrunning cities and overworked cops.

    If anybody needs a Gendarmerie its you guys.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      The fat Black is the only one without two hands on their weapon. Not big surprise.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        racist

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >2) If civilians can own ars & body armor, so should cops.
      That cuts both ways. If cops can get NFA items, explosives, and cheap armored vehicles, civilians should be able to also. Which is a fair and equal trade. Citizens would agree to that, cops would pitch a fit

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Sure, then the cops get tanks and artillery, because the state will always be more armed than you.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          as it should be, hobbes was right

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Ok then we get to buy tanks and artillery
          >because the state will always be more armed than you.
          Yeah and that’s the issue. There is no reason for the “public serving” police to be more heavily armed than what the average man can buy. The military is different. Police aren’t military.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >There is no reason
            There is, it wouldn't be the state if they didn't have a monopoly on violence.
            >public serving
            They're not there to "serve" you, they're there to enforce the law. If someone's trying to break into your house you can call the police because that's illegal, not because they're your friends. Learn the difference.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              Fren we’re on the same side here. I know it’s purposeful. I’m well aware it’s structured this way to keep the people from having power and a say.

              My points are from a logical/general discussion that it shouldn’t be structured this way, if the purpose is to help the community. While we may recognize anarcho-tyranny, too many do not and it’s not palatable by normies

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Don't they have to set up a trust for the department?

        My town of 18k has 4 armored transport vehicles & 2 forensic RV's, that's just what you can see from the public roads. I went to get food at a chinese hole in the wall and like 6-8 cops decked out in military bullshit came in made it feel like I was living in an active war zone. It's not common now but if nobody tells them enough is enough expect DUI checkpoints to start looking like military checkpoints where you're treated like a third rate citizen and humiliated for no reason.

        >don't slow down fast enough
        >get shot for being mistaken for a VBIED

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >when I buy an assault rifle 15 and level 4 armor and plate carrier and high capacity drum mags of screwdriver bullets it's based and redpilled
        >when police buy a truck gun they're oppressing my rights!
        Normal people can already buy NFA items, bulletproof cars, and explosives so idk why larpers are mad about cops being able to. Stop being poor.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Until i can buy full auto the pigs don't need it either.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            You can buy full auto, moron. Get a job.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              Post your auto sear or kys, larper

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              Ok. Post yours. Or post W2

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >aaaaa post guns post hands post nose -t. denies the national firearms act
                Get an education too.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                What? Try again with complete thoughts

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Russians don't have complete thoughts

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >buy NFA items
          At insanely artificial prices and with months to years of waiting for something as simple as a suppressor. Cops get special treatment. Let me know when I can get a new production, full auto AR for $1000. Let me know when I can get anything made post-86.
          >bulletproof cars
          Which are subsidized by hand me downs from the DoD. Care to show me when and where the DoD is putting MRAPs up for auction for less than $10k. Because that’s what a lot of departments paid to buy them. Not only did my federal tax dollars go towards buying them the first time, my local tax dollars are going towards buying it again, when it will never be used for me and only against me (potentially). We are paying for our tools of oppression and aren’t even allowed the option to buy them at the same rate.
          >and explosives
          With a mile of extra red tape that law enforcement can avoid.

          You’re being disingenuous and you know it. Which means you are a newer lefty shill/war tourist, or a badgeBlack person. Any true /k/ommando is full shall not.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >Cops get special treatment.
            Because they're a part of the government so they get exceptions numnuts. They don't get to take their guns home. They stay at the station when not in use and are typically destroyed when they aren't needed anymore. Really no different than the military.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Except looking at your many, many guntubers, all of these seem available to civilians. All you need to do is have money.

        Too bad the goverment has more of that than you.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Cops are civilians, you moron.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Wrong b***h glad you dont matter even in your country.

  23. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    what does /k/ think of the policiazation of the military?

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      These people are gendarmes (men of arms).
      They are meant to be military operating within civilian environement.
      If I am not mistaken they are now run by the homeland ministery.
      Oh, and they also have the GIGN unit, which is /k/ to an incredible point.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      It's good to have a middle-ground gendarmerie corp, many countries have it
      Here we have the Carabinieri who works as police, peacekeeping, military police and mil operations as well

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Can't be done. States would sperg out over
        >muh rights
        and there would be significant institutional inertia and barriers to entry with the existence of the NG and federal law enforcement agencies.

  24. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Cops having access to heavy shit isn't necessarily a problem. The issue is that American cops have ridiculously terrible training compared to their European counterparts. We're talking months versus years here. And that's for normal beat cops, not even SWAT or other paramilitary roles. As a result cops in America generally just suck at deescalating and start going for the violent option. Now give every glorified mall cop access to some sweet toys and you've got a receipt for diaster. Just allocate the majority of the budget to training (TTPs), sort out better integration with mental health care professionals (so not every civilian undergoing a breakdown gets executed) and introduce accountability (and actually enforce it). Do that and cops might stop larping as delta force. Serve the community, not terrorise it.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      American police training is a joke

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      I'm not necessarily opposed to it. In a society where regular people are allowed to own what are practically military-grade arms (minus full auto), and are in many cases more well equipped than your average grunt (this is not a bad thing), police officers should be capable of responding to a threat that involves these weapons. That said, there's no real use case for shit like m113s, and police need some kind of oversight so they don't spend their money on moronic shit like that. If they didn't, maybe they'd be able to actually pay them enough to encourage professionals to join the force instead of moronic tubbos who want to bully people for a living. I've got a lot of problems with the police, but them being capable of responding to situations involving semi-auto rifles and body armor effectively is not one of them.
      Also feds shouldn't have access to national guard armories. The fact that they've driven bradleys through multiple buildings when that number should be zero is fricking moronic.

      tldr

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      I'm not necessarily opposed to it. In a society where regular people are allowed to own what are practically military-grade arms (minus full auto), and are in many cases more well equipped than your average grunt (this is not a bad thing), police officers should be capable of responding to a threat that involves these weapons. That said, there's no real use case for shit like m113s, and police need some kind of oversight so they don't spend their money on moronic shit like that. If they didn't, maybe they'd be able to actually pay them enough to encourage professionals to join the force instead of moronic tubbos who want to bully people for a living. I've got a lot of problems with the police, but them being capable of responding to situations involving semi-auto rifles and body armor effectively is not one of them.
      Also feds shouldn't have access to national guard armories. The fact that they've driven bradleys through multiple buildings when that number should be zero is fricking moronic.

      Basically this. The issue isn't that the have the equipment, it's that they use it terribly

  25. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    I'm not necessarily opposed to it. In a society where regular people are allowed to own what are practically military-grade arms (minus full auto), and are in many cases more well equipped than your average grunt (this is not a bad thing), police officers should be capable of responding to a threat that involves these weapons. That said, there's no real use case for shit like m113s, and police need some kind of oversight so they don't spend their money on moronic shit like that. If they didn't, maybe they'd be able to actually pay them enough to encourage professionals to join the force instead of moronic tubbos who want to bully people for a living. I've got a lot of problems with the police, but them being capable of responding to situations involving semi-auto rifles and body armor effectively is not one of them.
    Also feds shouldn't have access to national guard armories. The fact that they've driven bradleys through multiple buildings when that number should be zero is fricking moronic.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Highest level law enforcement should have access to the 'best gear'. Not tanks, but APCs are fine for the heavy hitters. If anything with actual firepower is needed the NG will be mobilized anyway. Or JSOC gets to larp as FBI agents for couple of days.

  26. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Policing should not be a full time job for most beat cops. It should be like old city watches where it’s average citizens who just do a few days/nights a month. It would make everyone more responsible for the safety of their community. There would need to be checks and balances to ensure people don’t abuse it — but then, current police could also use more accountability.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >It should be like old city watches where it’s average citizens who just do a few days/nights a month.

      Two words: organized crime. There's a reason why old watch systems fricking died.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Two words: government overreach. There's a reason why organized crime exploded which the government started regulating everything.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      unironically have cops be exclusively like jury duty and comprised of temporarily drafted civilians.

      Like if you are eligible in terms of education or fitness you have the chance of being drafted for a year to be a cop. No more sub 90 IQ brutes, just normal people trying to get through their tour of duty. Much less power tripping, people with actual life experience. Obviously for things like SWAT and more specialized roles you'd want full time professional staff, but for parking enforcement, street patrols, and everyday use could absolutely be done

      shit, I live in MPLS, things were actually better when the NG had things under martial law because they were actually people and understand what it's like to be on the other side of the policing interaction. You wouldn't be selecting for Jack booted fascists who wants to power trip, just patriotic Americans and/or people looking to better their lives/escape from poverty

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >No more sub 90 IQ brutes
        >just normal people trying to get through their tour of duty
        Most people are idiots, and don't tend to react well in stressful situations.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          still better than attracting power tripping chuds who wrote "You're Fricked" on their AR as they execute citizens for not playing Simon Says correctly

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            seriously I would feel much safer even having NG 11Bs in my neighborhood rather than the current power tripping police

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Imagine having PrepHoleners drafted to your neighborhood. You know some of them are going to be mentally unstable types with weird knives, emotional outbursts, etc.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              you would draft physically fit and educated people. Not PrepHole posters

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                We have a board called PrepHole, you can be athletic (and even educated) while still being a frickup of a human being.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                You aren't a frickup if you're fit. I can't even comprehend an example of what you've posited would even look like.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous
              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Being PrepHole lets you frick up in all new ways unavailable to flabbier men.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Go to PrepHole and find out

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Oh, so now you want standards? It's not everyone can play anymore?
                Pretty soon you're going to be worried about jury compensation money aka wages, then regulations and insurance, and finally training, and you'll be back at the start.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Awfully high self image you have

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              "Drafts" only happen in the military and under strenuous circumstances for a reason.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >chuds
            Go back. Do not post gun. Do not collect $200.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >It should be like old city watches where it’s average citizens who just do a few days/nights a month.

      Average citizens are even dumber then cops.

      Imagine getting pulled over for speeding by some White trash Walmart customer with a gun...

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Jesus christ this is the scariest bit about all of the incoherent schizo rambling. They would see a bunch of rednecks running around lynching anyone they didnt like as a good thing. Shit like the salem witch trials goes to show that shit like that doesnt work. All it takes is a group of people so absolutely delusional they believe anything said by the group and a bunch of people get the rope for no fricking reason. "The good old days" were never good.

        • 1 year ago
          Macky

          >The good old day after 9/11
          That’s how the acceleration of the militarization of the police is happing anon.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >All it takes is a group of people so absolutely delusional they believe anything said by the group
          The irony of this statement

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >t leftist bootlicker

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Fine anon.
          >Imagine getting pulled over and held at gunpoint for speeding (when you weren't) by 80IQ Tyrone and his boys Big Purple and Thugg Shaker.
          There, is that legible in your specific political argot?

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >Seggs with tyrone
            Uwu dropping the soap it’s balin’

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Anon put the new forgis on the jeep

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      don't a lot of cities have auxiliary part-time cops?

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Do you have any examples?

  27. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    it's inevitable that the state of the art solution to a problem spread to everybody that has the money to spend on it. The attempt to demilitarize the police will fail in all cases for exactly the same reason as gun bans.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      ok

  28. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Modern police are less on par in terms of military equipment than they were in the early to mid 20th Century.

    >Tommy guns
    >BARs
    >Full auto everywhere
    >Armored cars when the army were rocking soft skins.

    MRAPs, ballistic plates and carbines are not "militarization", it's called the tools required to deal with all the 80 IQ active shooters and crackheads holding hostages.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >it's called the tools required to deal with all the 80 IQ active shooters
      The problem isn't their equipment, its their general lack of balls against anyone that could shoot back

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >The problem isn't their equipment, its their general lack of balls against anyone that could shoot back
        The problem was with the Uvalde forces. Look at Nashville or a plethora of other shootings and you see officers rushing in to deal with the mentally ill moron on the other side. Rinkydink forces and corrupt city admins are the problem forces in America.

  29. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    it's an extension of national guard

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      other way around

  30. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    This entire thread proves to me that once again none of you know what you're talking about. Especially ones who are so deluded into thinking they can get rid of the police and set up their own group. Except it's totally not the police but even fricking worse.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      That's even been mentioned in this very thread. But people are stupid and think they don't need no system, its only holding them back.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        That chaz thing or whatever it was literally had a shitty self created police force that gunned down an unarmed black kid in a SUV and then executed him.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >Especially ones who are so deluded into thinking they can get rid of the police and set up their own group

  31. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Best thing bongland ever did was disarm all the beat cops. The typical copper has pepper spray and a stick

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Bongland has the advantage of their population not being so moronic and being shot at random is seemingly an everpresent fear you need to guard against.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >Bongland has the advantage of their population not being so moronic
        Kek. Sure. Whatever you say

  32. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Police should be subject to the exact same gun control laws as the general public in their jurisdiction

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Why?

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Correct. They're starting to in california of all places due to their abuse of off roster private sales putting them straight into b***h your an arms dealer now you need an ffl and to pay taxes. Police union finally said gun laws are unconstitutional when it started affecting them.

  33. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Literally all of them could die tomorrow and no sector of society would suffer

  34. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    meme propagated by morons
    they see an APC or armored van and think "oh my god, is that a heckin' tank ? is that body armor ? CAMOUFLAGE ? literally 1984!!"
    fricking morons

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      You ignorant manchild. You probably dont even know what the "patriot" act is or what it started. Frick you.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >what the "patriot" act is or what it started
        They're just codifying what they've always been doing you dumb Black person. They would still do that shit even without the patriot act.

  35. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    I live in a ban state and I hate everything.

  36. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    SWAT exists, national guard exists. Traffic cops don't need all this shit, it's not made their roles.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Where do you live that traffic cops get all this shit ? pretty sure most cops in america are rolling in unarmored cruisers and carry a handgun.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        My town of 18k has 4 armored transport vehicles & 2 forensic RV's, that's just what you can see from the public roads. I went to get food at a chinese hole in the wall and like 6-8 cops decked out in military bullshit came in made it feel like I was living in an active war zone. It's not common now but if nobody tells them enough is enough expect DUI checkpoints to start looking like military checkpoints where you're treated like a third rate citizen and humiliated for no reason.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        pretty sure most of them have an AR and armor in their cruiser now
        something about how don't have partners anymore and back up won't get there in time

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Armor is standard with any police force, the AR is reasonable if it's america.
          Police in any country are given automatic weapons depending on role and where they're stationed, or given a higher alert level.

  37. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Cities with high rates of armed robbery, gang warfare and hostage situations I get it. For some low crime suburb its fricking moronic.

  38. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >neverserveds larping as military men
    >refuse to work when their feefees get hurt
    I am in genuine awe unruly groups aren't simply kicked off and replaced wholesale. They're quickly reaching third world dysfunction.

  39. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Schizos said feds were legitimate targets in their war-larp fantasies. Cops are simply giving them what they wanted lel.

  40. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    It makes sense from a budgetary standpoint. The military has a frickload of old weapons, the police need some niche weapons in their arsenal just in case, sell the weapons to the police force. The issue isn't so much this process as it is everything surrounding it. Police forces are overeager to deploy SWAT teams, the police operate with as little transparency and accountability as they can get away with, absolutely piss poor training and standards for an incredibly taxing and dangerous job.

  41. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    it's bad. police should do their job of suppressing minorities instead of running around acting like commandos

  42. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    If civilians have AR15's, its no wonder that police want to have plate carriers and armored cars

    Also they're probably larping just a tad

  43. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Frick the police.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >that t-shirt

      oooooh shit zogbots are next level cringe

  44. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Operator culture really was a horrible thing for the world. I highly doubt any of you will agree with it, but it has ruined so much shit. Also, frick the police.

  45. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    if it means military scale Black person obliteration i support it

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      It will always be used against law abiding whites and not criminals

  46. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    militarization of the police wouldn't be such a problem if America didn't love their guns so much.

    Americans have decided that police militarization is an acceptable price for such freedoms.

  47. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    as long as it's for sheriff chitGOD i am fine with it

  48. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    completely unnecessary and inefficient. Also redundant since the national guard exists

  49. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >AM I BEING DETAINED?

  50. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    It would be fine if it came with a unified military command structure instead of a union that allows the "soldiers," to violate direct orders and say "frick you, pay me more and I'll think about it," to their commander.

    Imagine if the military was routinely forced to rehire and give backpay to soldiers it fired for poor performance, getting into bar fights, DUIs, etc. That's the police union system today; guys are impossible to fire.

  51. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    I live in south america, we dont have an option

    • 1 year ago
      Macky

      Me gusta

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >Brazilin BOPE with M92fs
        Why no u no use a TARUS 92

  52. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    when youve been arresting your fellow citizens for drinking beer in order to pay your department bills
    They need to look like an occupying military to keep you scared of them!
    >Defund the Police? Just stop drinking alcohol and driving an automobile and most police depts. will go broke within 2 months, stop going to bars and the citys tax base with collapse!
    No money to be had with Domestic disputes and those are down right dangerous and with then hiring of female police a Domestic dispute take 3-10 officers to write a report and to protect the 8 female cops!

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >uses Jack Nicholson truth handle meme
      I love that golfer

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous
      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        https://i.imgur.com/zowlpJ7.jpg

        What does /k/ think of the militarization of police?

        was NYC really as crazy as mad bull 34 portrays or is it just cultural misunderstanding the Japs had of us New Yorkers?

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Reminds me of the quote about if the public just didn't speak and let a lawyer speak for them police and courts would go bankrupt in a month.
      That said let's be honest, they could come up with new means of hall monitoring you. Going 37 in a 35 Mph zone, jaywalking, ect.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        I once jaywalked with my bike, was very close to getting flattened by an 18 wheeler 🙂

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          I am the anon you replied to, I do understand fricking with jaywalking when you're dealing with a busy street. It's more some rule lawyering where it's just "Cmon homie chill out, just browbeat em about not doing it again no reason to cite them".

          https://i.imgur.com/mtLoGhS.jpg

          [...]
          was NYC really as crazy as mad bull 34 portrays or is it just cultural misunderstanding the Japs had of us New Yorkers?

          A quote I remember possibly from NYC's current mayor or some other major official was that it's 'worse' in NYC now because back then you knew the rules of the game - don't be out at night, avoid X neighborhood, don't do ABC and you're safe" whereas now it's literally just get merced or fricked up in broad daylight on a busy street in an otherwise safe location.

          Mad bull is clearly going to be playing up the insanity for dramatic points but NYC was plenty nasty.

          https://www.disastercenter.com/crime/nycrime.htm

          Murder was 2605 at the height in 1990, burglarly was ~360,000 at the height, larceny theft 535k, robbery 112k.
          Also
          >Forcible rape was 2797 in 2010
          >Fricking 6,583 in 2019
          >That's higher than during the worst of the 80s.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >So 1980s anime mad bull 34 NYC was more tame with rape then modern day big apple
            Shit damn that hits hard mai homie

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              Yeh. I'm not a New york resident so I'm just picking up from what I remember reading. Wish I could recall this great 2001 book that was full of real gonzo journalists who went out to nasty hot spots in the world for real hardcore risky exposes. Lebanon in the 80s, journalist on a plane taken hostage, Afghanistan after Soviets, Eritrea, the works. It ended with a chapter on LA riots and NYC. NYC just felt more fetid and disgusting whereas LA was and remains the biggest modern proof of why gun ownership is invaluable.

              But to put it into context:
              "Today" (past 4 years too lazy to get exact date) St Louis MO is the most dangerous city with a crime rate of 70 per 1,000 residents. Chance of a victim of violent or property crime is 1 in 14. Crime rate per 1k residents is 14.96 for violent, 55.05 for property.

              https://pricetheory.uchicago.edu/levitt/Papers/LevittUnderstandingWhyCrime2004.pdf

              NYC in 1990 was the peak of homicide. Homicde rate was 30.7 per 100,000. In other words:
              >St Louis 2020s = Chance to suffer violent crime - not necessarily murder
              14.96 out of 100,000
              >NYC 1990 = chance to suffer murder.
              30.7 out of 100,000.

              So, take St Louis Missouri today and double it. While we're at it I am too lazy to crunch numbers but safely assume for the worst behavior of Seattle and Baltimore and Portland and let's double or triple it.

              That's NYC in 1990. NYC in 1990 was twice as dangerous as fricking St Louis today.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >Upstate New Yorker I am to be correct. Damn did 9/11 have any impact on crime in NYC?

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >9/11 impact on crime
                Sebastian Junker mentioned in the Tribe Book that suicides plummeted after 9-11. No pun intended with the word plummeted. Otherwise I don't know, but the popular cultural understanding is that Rudy Guiliani in the 90s and early 2000s before he went a bit loony really transformed NYC with broken window policing
                >https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Broken_windows_theory
                Which holds that petty minor crimes (like not paying subway fare, petty larceny of chips or whatever, littering, jaywalking) will become a festering breeding ground for greater crime.
                This probably coupled with 'stop and frisk' which is 'randomly' stopping people on the street to check if they have guns or drugs. I think only dipshit crime-apologists can argue against broken window policing (Even if I defended mild jaywalking earlier). Stop and frisk is a more complicated one because I can see the merits of being against
                >"You're walking while black now I get to frisk you for no reason other than being a homie".

                But in any case the going was good and gentrification was making lods of emone during Guiliani and the slimy wannabe-Emperor-Xi we all know and loath, Bloomberg. It's after him you get that first tweedle dumb I forget the name of and now you get the former squeegie-boy and vegan tyrant former cop whose mayor of NYC now. Along with Chicago they seem to be gluttons for punishment since at least Minneapolis went "Hey uh, maybe we shouldn't abolish the police" and rescinded some of their stupider policies post Floyd.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Awesome 9/11 really helped make NYC a tiny bit safer with less suicides. That is so freakin b***h cha’.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                yeah but after 911 the average price of an apartment in NYC cost in the $3-$4 $5K to $350K a month range.
                People with that kind of money to spend are making good money and dont want to kill themselves. Better statistics would to look into the suburbs of MJ Penn and Coon to see if suicide rates increased there!
                Also city government doesnt like to put out stats that could effect thier governance!

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Broken_windows_theory#Criticism

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Budwieser just lost $4 Billion dollars through a troony!
      >Imagine the money they have been funneling to the police and court houses via DUI and State & City Tax's!

  53. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Another blatant example of government overreach that bootlickers will justify by saying "you only need to worry of you commit a crime". No different to the Patriot Act or Stop and Search laws

  54. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    In a non political fashion sense, means seeing more sexy officers in tactical digital Camo gear 😉

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/zowlpJ7.jpg

      What does /k/ think of the militarization of police?

      Militarization of fire fighter uniforms swag aesthetics orange digital camo should be more used in us local fire departments just like the Philippines

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Congratulations, your fellow firefighters now have a harder time seeing you

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >Congrats
          They wear the cool orange digital cam dress uniforms for parades/pr/formal events this is what the Pinoys fight fires in

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            They look so cool for a militarized fire fighter dress uniform.
            Same vain as navy digital blue camo ineffective but aesthetically beautiful

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >that nozzleperson
            If that were a live hose she'd have no chance

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              Would militarized firefighters would need flamethrowers like the ones in Fahrenheit 451

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                yes, to cut off "wild fires"

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                You cereal cuz if u are data Awesome poggersauce

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                No, they'd just use halligans and chainsaws

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Breton Tarrant did nothing wrong. The pests were Muslims. You are a leftist who doesn’t own guns. Prove me wrong

                Right to bear arms even Muslims and Irish Catholics should have that right. Just live laugh love, man you’ll live longer dude.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >fight fires
            pight pires* na

  55. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Frick the police.

  56. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    It's bullshit and I hate it but it's the only way to corral hordes of blacks when they decide to burn everything down for fun

  57. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Meh, if they want gwot gibs then i say go for it.

  58. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Cops are not militarized. Only homosexuals believe so.

    The moment the local cops gets an MBT, and drones with hellfires, apache helicopters, i will believe you.

    A cop with a rifle is no more militarized than a non cop with a rifle. Anti gun bullshit.

  59. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Lmao look at all these people thinking they are some kind of Vietnamese/Afghanistan resistance fighter.
    No you won't do jackshit.
    You will be slaughtered like the pigs at WACO.
    The best you are going to do is call some falseflag fed shooting up random stragglers an inspiration.
    Pathetic.

  60. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    https://theintercept.com/2023/04/20/atlanta-cop-city-protester-autopsy/

  61. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Did you know that racism out of /b/ is against the rules of PrepHole?

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      found the nig

  62. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    It's ridiculous. 95% of PDs and feds don't need about 90% of their toys. And if those resources would not be spend on military gear they'd probably be more effective. Driving down the highway with an MRAP thats no longer in production at 2.4 MPG is just moronic.

  63. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    You are a bunch of terrorists and deserve nothing but contempt.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Looks like he should had brought a grenade with him.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        looks like he shouldnt have even been there to me

  64. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Seems like they're being goaded into a USSR-style situation where eventually the upkeep of policing the population becomes too high for them to maintain.

  65. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Necessary to maintain law and order.

  66. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    gay. leo exemptions to gun laws shouldn't exist. anyone who disagrees is a traitor.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      The state should have a monopoly on violence

  67. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    The political and rich elite having a literal army is always a bad idea.

  68. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >Germany
    >Supposedly full of violent immigrants
    >No guns
    >Parts of the police force doesn't even have guns
    >Average of 20 SHOTS fired per year
    >Yet America hast 5 times more homicides per capita and eleven times more rapes per capita than Germany
    Ah it feels good to live in an actual first world country that >muh guns mutts can only cope and seethe about

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      ich hoffe deine dreckige Schlampenmutter wird vergewaltigt

      also why the frick are you on a gun board if you dont like them, ukrainian dick sucker

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Wie reizend
        I never said i was against guns. Switzerland and Finnland are doing fine. America ist the problem
        Also, you're mistaken, this ist a weapons board, not just guns
        Cope

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >ukraine out of nowhere
        Black person, ukraine has more gunrights than america at this point ever since they laxed their gun laws. Not sure why you're insulting them when they are the most pro gun nations out there at this moment.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah except German cops are actually allowed to beat the frick out of criminals and browns

      >Yet America hast 5 times more homicides per capita and eleven times more rapes per capita than Germany

      Look at the homicide rate of white Americans

  69. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    They need to spend more money on training than gear.

  70. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Not far enough, I want to see A-10s BRRRRRTing 30mm rubber bullets and dropping cluster tear gas bombs on riots

  71. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >militarization
    Aren't majority of cops gear just bought from the civilian market? How is it "militarization" when they just get basic b***h gear that anybody can get? Is it the camo?

  72. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

  73. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    yeah

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