What are his military options at this point?

Since he's essentially running the show now and with Kherson probably being liberated soon, what options does he have to achieve ~any~ gains from this war?

  1. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    two shots to the back of the head from an AN-94

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      surprisingly underrated comment in a weapons forums. conclusion, fucking no gun tourists in this thread.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Rather disappointed we haven't gotten any an94 or a545 kino yet

  2. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Nuke Kiev and Lviv

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      what would a low-yield nuke do to either city? forgive me for using shitty terminology. yes i'm kind of a fucking tourist (/o/)

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >low-yield
        That's where you're wrong kiddo.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >It illustrates well what a nation of spastic retards the Russians have become that they elevated this talentless bitter hack to be their brain bug
          ditto

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >normalizes nuking your enemies capital
          >your enemies are now nuking your capital.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        It wouldn't be low yield
        if he's going to drop a bomb on a major city, it's going to be the big one, and it's being done specifically because Monke knows he's not getting out of this alive so he'll take as many down with him as he can and make them, and us, bleed for daring to resist him

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Something you should have thought of before resisting, chud.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            I'll remind you of that when Moscow is burning.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Considering a low yield nuclear weapon is a similar payload to Fat Man and Little Boy, it's not particularly low yield at all.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous
      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Goddamn that's a lot of fucking planes

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >all those bombs

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        This is what vatniks thought their 3 day operation would look like lmao
        Needs to be remade with planes taking off and crashing a few meters from the runway

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >on crocodile
          >you start to think those Russian military isekai are an accurate description of the Russian capabilities

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Didn't it take like a year to amass all of this+ planning and training?

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Yep. And we've had 8 for when Russia finally snaps.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Jesus fucking christ

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Christ, that’s overkill the only thing that missing is showing the Iraqi’s that we have an ice cream ship nearby

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        muh dick

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      OP asked for his military options, not his suicide options.

      what would a low-yield nuke do to either city? forgive me for using shitty terminology. yes i'm kind of a fucking tourist (/o/)

      You ever watched Barefoot Gen? Imagine that, but recorded in 4K.

      Then imagine that multiplied by 1000x as NATO conducts a massive counterforce nuclear strike on Russia.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      This would unironically probably lead to an internal revolt as the less schizo members of the Russian government and armed services realise this retard is about to get them all killed.

  3. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Pu Poo Pooh

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      BRICS Is so fucking retarded. China and India hate each other and India doesn't care about fucking with the West

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        It was a total meme some Goldman Sachs employee came up with. Said bank used to have fund for BRIC asset invesment but it rapidly lost value. I don't know why South Africa was added.
        As far as I can tell, its only use is for Brazil, Russia, and South Africa to be economically dominated by China. Not happening to India obviously, I think their motivation is to counter China within it.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          It's a useful term for mid-development countries which aren't utilising all of their resources. The difference is one of trajectories: they're all tending down nowadays RE pop trends, yet russia and Safrica aren't really comparable to the others in size. Still, it's mainly just for expected returns from a same sized investment considering the diminishing returns from spending it in an advanced economy where all resources are being utilised to a high extent.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >I don't know why South Africa was added.
          China invited South Africa to be a member of BRICS hoping that Beijing would be able to exert the same kind of debt/trap leverage that it does with other African countries. However it didn't happen since China is only the 8th biggest investor in South Africa.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >China and India are arch-enemies
          >Russian economy worse than Spain and their military world's laughing stock
          >Brazil doesn't care about any of this shit even when they have anti-western leftists in charge
          >South Africa is basically just a southern hemisphere version of Detroit

          truly an alliance to rock the foundations of the West

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          It's an economic term, not a political movement. The closest thing to an actual bloc would have been the NAM and that's a big stretch. It doesn't help that Russia is actively playing the bad guy and the PRC is trying to fill the USSR's shoes on the global stage.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous
          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Is it just me or does Xi constantly have a poker face going on.
            I think I only saw one pic of him laughing and that's it.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >My feet hurt
            >This tie is dumb
            >Can't believe I have to pose for a gay photo-op with these gay-ass superfriends-looking motherfuckers

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >tfw your friend pulled an italy
            rip in pasta

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          I really want to punch Bolsonaro in the face.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            as a moron from a country north of Brazil, I've to ask.
            Why the fuck Bolsonaro and wtf with Lula?
            Don't you have someone moderate or what?

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              I am not brasilian, I just want to hook that cunt in the gabber.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >India doesn't care about fucking with the West
        do elaborate

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          We just fucked with India and either threatened sanctions or did sanction them for buying Russian gas

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            so what? they cant stop caring about the west when they're told to stop fucking around.
            whatre they going to do, lose their biggest buyer and rely more on their biggest seller who they hate and have armed conflicts with?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        They only hate each other over border disputes
        China will fuck off if taking Russian land is a viable option for them

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      larf

  4. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    He's dug himself into a corner by annexing shit he won't be able to hold onto. He's gonna have to use nuclear weapons as leverage tools to survive.

  5. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    https://nitter.net/ABarbashin/status/1577239967168102400
    >Heh, now you've piqued my interest, Putin.
    >Step aside, vatniks, leave Ukraine to me.

  6. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    since the tourists from /lgbt/ don't understand military doctrine or where it comes from, they probably don't understand where russia was 'putting' all that titanium that it wasn't using for su-57s.
    The glowies already prepped the red october scare and warmed the social sphere to the idea with fear mongering, but the sheer scale of russia's submarine fleet is itself daunting. the fact that they are rusting apart hasn't stopped them from evading the navy and that's troubling too.
    I never really understood why they decided to pour all of their resources into submarines, instead of splitting it across the navy and air force like the US does. the only suHispanicion is that they have a methodology for working with one division, so they don't need an air force if they have a submarine fleet. they won't need a submarine fleet if they have an air force, so they decided to focus on one and one only. it takes a lot of balls to commit to that and honestly believe your are still good.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >the fact that they are rusting apart hasn't stopped them from evading the navy
      um
      is there like a fucking Pentagon sponsored study for this something?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Useless in a war that is mostly fought on land. And anyway, they will.not start doomsday, at the end of the day the oligarchs and Putin want to survive, not just bomb the world.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      > the sheer scale of russia's submarine fleet is itself daunting.
      And other jokes Russians tell themselves

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >everything I don't like is russian
        dilate

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          It doesn’t matter if you’re Russian. You’re retarded either way

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >first thing you post is saying everyone is from the fag board
          >cries when they're laughed at for making a shitty post
          embarrassing

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Russians are actually responsible for many of the crimes perpetuated against the West for the last decade. They are getting exactly what they deserve and their mouthpieces are being called out, rightly, for their complicity in those crimes.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            What bothers me is that their agents of influence in the West aren't being rounded up and deported to Russia to be mobilized.

            Eco-Freak "Watermelon" Greens trying to deindustrializate us comes to mind, plus the usual anti-Anerucan and anti-Beit TrotskyiteJoos in academia and media.

            We could do ourselves a powerful amount if good by exposing, bankrupting, imprisoning and deporting,(as applicable), all their bedbugs that are on their payroll or are fellow travelers.

            You know that they fear this because of what saleswoman of our uranium to Russia did to attack the Orange Man.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Are we really down to submarine cope now?

      >even when rusted, mighty Rossiya is the king

      Lmao

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      > rusting apart hasn't stopped them from evading the navy and that's troubling too
      bro do you know ANYTHING about sonar and hydrodynamics?!?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Many US Navy sonar operators describe Russian subs to sound like someone is dragging metal trash cans on the botton of the sea. Typhoon/Akula is noted to be especially loud and easy to find.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >they probably don't understand where russia was 'putting' all that titanium that it wasn't using for su-57s.
      LMAO, are you sure YOU understand where R*ssia was ''''''putting'''''' all that titanium? Hint: The clue's the word "corruption".

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Infact for a long time they exported most of their Titanium to the west.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          The famous SR-71 was built with sneakily imported Soviet titanium, or so the story goes.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Somwhere in Russia, there's a dacha made entirely from titanium...

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      starting to see a lot more of this 'everything is corrupt and nonfunctional except da nooks' cope, when in reality i think we all know that the nukes are probably the most nonfunctional part of the entire army due to their cost, complexity, and opaque supply chains

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous
    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      ah yes, the mighty Russian submarine fleet with it's newest addition, the Moskva

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        and?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        submarines need constant and professional maintenance to perform well, or at the very least not kill everyone inside
        if Russia starts actively trying to use them in war, I am basically expecting the multiple new Kursk tier disasters

  7. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    What will he gain?
    looted washing machines

  8. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    The current cope is: they got all they need, the front moves organically back and forth, it is just a matter of time before peace prevails in an Europe ravaged by economic and gas crisis. Russia already won by annexing the best parts of Ukraine.

    I am reporting word for word the way a local Italian propagandist (from Bologna) puts it. It is baffling.

  9. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    What's this mastermind doing now?
    >inb4 Krokodil

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      It illustrates well what a nation of spastic retards the Russians have become that they elevated this talentless bitter hack to be their brain bug

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >have become

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Compress daughter's remains into diamonds
      >Hands them out to his disciples to take into battle
      >Punished Dugin takes to the battlefield personally

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >be war chickenhawk
      >watch your daughter explode before your eyes due to the war you shilled for
      pottery

  10. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    He can nook and go out in a blaze of glory. What used to be Russia absorbed by its neighbors. That's it.

  11. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Surrender.
    Pay contributions and reparations.
    Build fucking North Korea inside Russia where propaganda non-stop will tell how Crimea is still part of Russia (but no one can go here) and they win the war.

    Everybody will win.
    Ukraine will have their westernization and modernization
    Russa will continue dreaming about their Empire

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Would North Korea option finally prompt a revolution in Russia or are Russians that slavish?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        They are living in informational autocracy and Putin basically destroyed the Russian nation, so I doubt there will be anything.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Russians are genetically predisposed to preferring feudal serfdom. They have been this way for hundreds upon hundreds of years at this point. Life will go on as normal for them if they went full Best Korea.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          It's a land of contrast, probably more so than anywhere else on earth. The life of some fancy gay muskovite is nothing like the life of some dagestani mud farmer.

  12. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    He's fucked himself so hard with these annexations. He maybe could have pulled back to March border and begged for talks, and failing that fall back to Crimea and 91 border and say you'll absolutely nook if Ukraine goes beyond, but now he's stuck defending indefensible territory he should just kill himself best option now. Make it the next governments problem.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      He fucked himself by appointing yes-men robber barons to all offices.
      Literally fired the one guy who was actually doing his job and trying to make things better.
      So they built a pretend world ala Potemkin for him to see and he fell for it.
      Once covid hit he went into a two year isolation and they had total control of the information he received.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      He’s a degenerate gambling addict who’s going to keep doubling down on his junk hand until he gets completely wiped out. (shot in the head). If there were a military solution we’d have seen it by now.

  13. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >running the show now
    he really doesn't

  14. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >withdraw to the pre-2014 borders
    >scapegoat a few dozen generals and execute them all
    >enjoy banan

  15. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Ransom the stolen children for Crimea.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      why does this bitch look like a child snatcher? like one you'd see on tv after she and her husband kept 3 women as sex slaves in a basement and she was the accomplice? because thats exactly what this waxy bitch looks like.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        why do you think? your natural instinct is usually never wrong friend.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        See, Russia can appoint the right person for the job sometimes

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Why does the child snatcher look like a child snatcher?
        There is a reason stereotypes exist

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Fucking kidnapper criminal. Get her.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >but later, that negative attitude turned into love for Russia
      I'm sure she helped to "convince" them.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I want to strangle the life out of this demonic whore. Please don’t forget about her once Putin is dead.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Please don’t forget about her once Putin is dead.
        Sorry I already did

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Kekat the Wiki article

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        I guess with males as homosexual as Russia's, you have to boost population numbers however you can

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          when you send all your groomers to die in war, you gotta do the grooming yourself

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Nah, Ukraine will just go to Mossad, train their agents up and then liberate the children piece by piece while also putting a bullet between the eyes of responsible officials over the years...

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I'm going to enjoy hearing of Ukrainian special forces abducting her and torturing her until she gives up the location of every last one of those children.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Ministry of Love

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Glad to hear that those children won the victory over themselves, and learned to love Putin.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I wonder how many of those kids have been prostituted by now. Probably all.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Holy fuck, I just remember that 07 documentary with girls as young as 8 giving out blowjobs. Horrible stuff. I hope they at least get paid a fair amount.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Biden is just upset he can’t get those kids in comet pizza parlor now

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I'm assuming these are orphans and that Russia ended up killing their parents. I hope these kids remember their origins and the terror Russia put them through when they grow up.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >They sang the Ukraine national anthem
      Fucking based, Im adopting a kid after this war if possible.

  16. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    3 more years

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      > Transition period

      Transition to what, a complete war zone and final resting place of their newest army corps ?

  17. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I'll tell you what I'd do in his place. Elope with her to our love nest.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      do you think Putin knows what her butthole looks like?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        he knows what it tastes like

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          honestly i'd say he's pretty much won at this point

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            he knows what it tastes like

            do you think Putin knows what her butthole looks like?

            no way this is a coincidence.
            Two timelords and their dubs fucking with us.
            carry on.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              check'em

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          dibs to be behind her in a human centipede.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Well I hope he fucking does. Otherwise what's the point of being an autocrat

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        he knows what it tastes like

        dubs confirm

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Why is she yellow, is she unwell?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        jaundice apparently

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Hopefully by war's end, Russia is so bankrupt that Natalya is forced to sell her body to get by.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Natalya is forced to sell her body
        To me

        Why is she yellow, is she unwell?

        Russians are Asian, you racist

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Requesting a drawing of Marichka having rough sex with her

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        seconded, get on it drawfags

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Third

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          What's with the stupid elephant seal or whatever as Marichka's sidekick? How did that come about?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        seconded, get on it drawfags

        https://i.imgur.com/GYmViuT.png

        Third

        I'm not Da Vinci, but I tried.
        It's consensual of course

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous
        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >ben garrison
          lmfao

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >worried laughter

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous
          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            I can save her.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Yikes

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous
        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Don't show this to the vatniks they might start getting ideas

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          выпoлнялa, not выпoлнял! It's a girl saying this, isn't it?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            I used Google Translate

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous
    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      do you think Putin knows what her butthole looks like?

      Putin strikes me as a guy who’s more into his job than sex. That or he likes crusty babushkas.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I'd stop being a heathen and return to Christianity to become her new Tsar. I could do a better job than Putin.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      She is the twin of my Armenian friend.
      Dead ringer.

  18. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Hold a referendum saying that Russia has won the war.

  19. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Mein Monke, here are the 300k conscripts

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      i feel so bad for these kids.
      it looks like they are fun but man they are in a world of shit right now. just like their fathers. and their fathers. and their fathers. an

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Where is this? Terrifying.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Serbia

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Seriously? I meant where in Russia. Absolutely bonkers.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Seriously?
            No, I'm joking. By the way, go read some Serbian forums for maximum saltmining entertainment

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >pre-war Marichka

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Women in uniform, sometimes they look so cold
      Women in uniform, but, Oh! They feel so warm

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Putin should be publicly hanged for the shit he has done to russia and its neighbors

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        hanging is too quick and merciful
        I am not a sadistic or a violent man, but putin and his entire inner circle deserve some of the classic medieval punishments
        like slow impalement, where you die of thirst or infection after days of agony
        or being sat on an anthill

        this should help the russians understand that what their country is doing is not ok

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >or being sat on an anthill
          What have the poor ants done to you that you want to put Putins sorry ass on them?

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Nah, break them on the wheel.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      i feel so bad for these kids.
      it looks like they are fun but man they are in a world of shit right now. just like their fathers. and their fathers. and their fathers. an

      Someone should dress Ukrainian kids up as HIMARS and NLAWs and have the Russian and Ukrainian kids fight for control of a playground.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >kinderkarnage

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      wheres that comic of russian women putting their babies into a furnace and shrugging

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      The Japanese mercenaries will take care of those.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Putin could send these kids and no Russian would protest or rebel. They'd be angry on Instagram, but all they would really think is "at least it's not me".

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Are these the mobilised reserves?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Putler youth

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      ziglets

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      This made me cry.. I literally have tears streaming down my face. This is some Iraq War level brainwashing going on.

      >"Man is born free but everywhere in chains" - Jean-Jacques Rousseau

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Prepare to see these kids turned into mincemeat in HD drone footage in around 15 years or so during the following revanchist war or some other idiotic conflict.
        The dudes we like to make fun of today were probably no different that long ago.

  20. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Using new conscripts to hold or delay the Ukrainian advance as long as possible while painstakingly rebuilding his ability to build new combat power. This will be difficult and basically amount to repeating what Ukraine did but with significantly less motivated troops. It would require Russian leadership to pull their heads out of their asses and a few other miracles.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      How do they do this with their training corpus having been chewed up by the past 7 months of combat?

  21. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    ass on bottle is the last ace up his sleeves.

  22. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Lmao at all dumb reddit answers in this topic made by armchair strategists

  23. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    He's done. Even nuclear weapons are a cope. Nukes are not a "press button to win" mechanism. WW2 was a completely different situation. Japan had no allies, no fuel, no food, no steel. They were on the brink of being a failed state. The military had even arrested the emperor in a failed coup for trying to surrender. It was a demoralized society in tatters.
    Only victory in Ukraine can save his bacon and that is now impossible. Ukrainians will not give up. They have high morale, are fighting for their very existence, and NATO will provide whatever it takes. He would have to do a level of nuclear devastation never seen before to stop Ukraine, and that would be met by America and China making sure that Moscow and St. Petersburg are turned into fields of nuclear sludge.
    He is fucked and he has no way of coming back. Watch closely, this is the biggest geopolitical blunder we will ever see in our lives, and it isn't even over yet.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Sometimes I think about our perception of when an era begins and when another ends, and I wonder, in a couple hundred years, what is the event people point to as the separator between the 20th and 21st centuries. Is it going to be 911? Covid? But now I'm pretty sure it's this. After this is done we'll really be in a new world. NATO and the EU are stronger than ever. Russia's gone, the fifth columns are gone. The other day the EU passed huge sweeping legislation to deal with the russian gas situation, legislation that intervenes in the economy. This should have taken years to pass, if it even passed. But now, they passed it in an afternoon. Maybe in fifty years school kids will learn that the European federation was created after the Ukraine War, in the same way that the European union was created after the second world war

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >what is the event people point to as the separator between the 20th and 21st centuries
        generally the division between centuries is when the year stops saying 19xx and starts saying 20xx

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Retard

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            you don't get to go calling anyone retarded when you don't understand how the measurement of time works

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Yes, but a change of year doesn't automatically bring about a change of societal attitude. There's a period called "The Long 19th Century", ranging from 1789 (French Revolution) to 1914 (World War One), because those were the epochal events that dramatically reshaped the world

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            arbitrarily deciding to call it an extra long century does not actually make 1789 or 1914 part of the 19th century

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              I'm sorry you have autism anon

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >what is the event people point to as the separator between the 20th and 21st centuries
        The internet.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        I think historians will look at the years between 1991-2020 as one long transitional period

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          90s are 1991 - 2001

          2000s are 2001 - 2008

          2010s are 2008 - 2016

          2020s are 2016 - present

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >End of Bush Sr.'s presidency and Clinton's presidency
            >Bush Jr. Presidency
            >Obama Presidency
            >Trump + Biden presidencies

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              more like
              >collapse of USSR - 9/11
              >9/11 - beginning of Obama/woke/Big tech era
              >obama/woke/big tech era - hyper partisan trump world is ending era

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        I don't think the EU will hold on for long either. Declining fertility, mass migration and internal divisions are a serious threat to the West. If I was Putin, I'd have put my stock in accelerating these crevices rather than chimping out on Ukraine like a spaz

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          If I was Putin I'd have focused on making Russia less of a shithole

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            That too

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Huh that and for the bongs having the queen dieing you might be right

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Sometimes I think about our perception of when an era begins and when another ends, and I wonder, in a couple hundred years, what is the event people point to as the separator between the 20th and 21st centuries. Is it going to be 911? Covid? But now I'm pretty sure it's this. After this is done we'll really be in a new world. NATO and the EU are stronger than ever. Russia's gone, the fifth columns are gone. The other day the EU passed huge sweeping legislation to deal with the russian gas situation, legislation that intervenes in the economy. This should have taken years to pass, if it even passed. But now, they passed it in an afternoon. Maybe in fifty years school kids will learn that the European federation was created after the Ukraine War, in the same way that the European union was created after the second world war

      >I was born 69 years ago. For 22 years I've ruled as Russia's president. But for all these years, I've never been the ruler of my own dreams. I have seen the Gates of Civilization, beyond which no corrupt eye may see. Behold, in light a Ukrainian counteroffensive sweeps the land. This is the 5th of October, the year of our lord, 2022. These are the closing days of the Soviet Era...and the final hours of my life.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >camera sweeps past St. Peter’s, the Kremlin, into a small prison window
        >PLAYER CREATION : Are you sure you want to be a Vatnik?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      This place has good analysts on the war and monke state of mind it would be so much fun to get to read mi6 and cia classified reports on the conflict

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        I’m pretty sure glowies post here

  24. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Unironically he falls back to Crimea and the other pre-feb lines and there's a chance he can keep them. His only other options are to lose everything.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Not working anymore.
      Crimea is hard to defend against attacks from Ukraine plus those idiots did not build any defense lines, coz stupid hohols would not attack.
      And Ukraine for sure will go for Crimea.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Crimea is hard to defend against attacks from Ukraine
        no, that is easy.

        what is hard is keeping crimea supplied after they lose the kherson + zaporizhia land corridor to it.
        >ukraine can cut off the crimean canal again, killing most of crimeas water supply
        >ukraine can hit naval supply attempts with anti ship missiles
        >ukraine can hit the bridge that connects crimea to mainland russia with HIMARS and drones

        they'd sit there and starve out because without water supply from ukraine crimea is essentially a barren desert rock.

  25. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    He could buy a nice house in Pyongyang and retire.

  26. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    *ahem*
    *tings glass*
    *clears throat*

    >biggest country in the world
    >has the most natural resources in the world
    >fifth largest military in the world
    >loosely allied with China and India (combined population: 2.84 billion)
    >in the position to blackmail Europe with essential energy exports

    >can't beat an impoverished neighboring country which is 28 times smaller, flat-terrained and run by a crossdressing comedian
    >can't beat NATO's homosexual feminist pronoun army supplying said country with arms and advice on a sliver of their yearly expenditure
    >can't even conquer one fifth of said country's territory via conventional warfare
    >can't motivate own citizens to mobilize
    >top generals siphon the military budget to buy yachts and Harvard gender studies classes for their kids
    >tries to cheat by proclaiming parts of said country as Russian, nobody cares
    >threatens the West with nuclear weapons, turns out it was a bluff

    >ends up expanding NATO
    >ends up strengthening the West's solidarity
    >ends up bolstering Ukrainian national identity
    >ends up pointlessly sacrificing men for the war, worsening the demographic decline
    >Russia may end up balkanized by the West through separatist color revolutions while China, Japan and Central Asian countries gobble up its clay

    This guy had 22 years to fix Russia and turn it into a veritable superpower, yet all he did with his absolute power was give away money to his friends and oligarchs, set up a police state, antagonize a country that had a 98% approval view of Russia in 2009 and start the most embarrassing war fiasco in human history under the pretext of "RACIST TRANSGENDER ANGLO-SAXON NAZIS WHO PLUNDERED AFRICA WANT TO TURN RUSSIANS INTO gayS AND CANCEL US LIKE JK ROWLING".
    This is, quite simply, the worst humiliation of all time.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Putin is just sober manlet version of Yeltsin confirmed.
      Only ever cared about making russia LOOK strong while stealing all the country's wealth for himself and his ~~*oligarch*~~ friends.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Yeltsin actually cared and Yeltsin activrly tried to make things better. Of course, being a fat alcoholic made it difficult for him.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Actually, it helped him in some ways.

          When he and Clinton met in Seattle, they drank each other under the table and woke up the next day as "bruthas from anotha mutha".

          Pussolini's best hope is to get Luka off his ass to invade western Ukraine.

          Luka's proven to be miles smarter than Pussolini though. His boys ain't dying and nobody in the West is calling for his suicide.

          Think about that.

          Luka smarter than Putin.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            You don't end up as the Last Dictator in Europe without political skill. Luka has been blocked from promotions because he was a sociopath. He's stone cold and incredibly sharp. He is, as you might say "merely pretending to be retarded". The jolly potato lover is an act.
            Every day he's trying to figure if and how he should stab Putun in the back.And when he does, he WILL be a colonel.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              >i appoint you to vatnik council but will not grant you the rank of colonel

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              >He's stone cold and incredibly sharp.
              Ummm.....

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                He's sharp in the sense of peeling potatoes skillfully.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                You still don't realize he leaked that plan on purpose? Nobody could stop him either.
                It's all developing according to the Potato Colonel's scenario

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >get Luka off his ass to invade western Ukraine.
            belarus army is an absolute joke. ukraine could unironically take minsk with nothing but territorial defense volunteers at this point.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              Absolutely, and Luka knows it.

              Plus, if he uses it and it gets BTFO’d, he can’t make his shekels off of the corruption.

              So far, he’s proved himself a master of earnest non-commitment. He says all the right words to keep Russians out of his turf trying to conquer their “Alliy”, but he doesn’t do a single thing to give Ukraine or NATO cause to paste him.

              Either he’s incredibly lucky or incredibly good…and probably a bit of both.

              If he’s REALLY smart, he’ll be the one to broker any peace treaty between Russia and Ukraine.
              And if he can pull that off, he won’t NEED to be appointed a Colonel.
              He’ll have MAJOR prestige and be showered with dirty JooShekels by the West.

              Putin can then take his colonel’s boards and shove them up his tight ass.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            The Belarusian army has less funding than US police departments

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Copy-pastaing a rant I saw about Yeltsin/Putin over last spring

          >The Russians view the 90s with horror and repulsion. Not because of economic woes. Russia has economic woes before the 90s, it had economic woes after the 90s.

          >What made them HATE it about all else was the friendship with the West and total Western hegemony. Gorbachev and Yeltsin are evil traitors because they were chummy with western leaders and worked towards world peace. It was a shameful time because Westerners stopped fearing or caring about Russians. That is not what Russia wants or what Russians want. Russians want to appear strong, to be the "bad guy" (they literally get off culturally on this, being an antagonistic force. Look at their reactions to the first day of le special military operation). Peace is bad, peace isn't cool. Peace means the West stops caring about you.

          >They want to fuck with the West and engage in grand 19th century-style geopolitics. They want to bring back the right to conquer and the amoral proxy war. They want to be a great empire in the most traditional definition of empire possible. They want to have tanks roll through European cities and for Eastern European countries that joined the West to burn. They want to be the Empire from Star Wars, to be obviously violent and repressive but in a cool and chique way. This is why the 90s are looked with such horror in Russia, because Operation Desert Storm put a nail in the coffin to the concept of a country just invading a country because it wanted to.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >This was the entire point of the war. Putin thought he was so clever playing denial about invading Ukraine without cause, then did it with absolute glee. Here, would be the return of history and the reversal of the global precedent set after the 1st Gulf War. The 90s would be corrected, the Cold War would be back and with it Russia’s history of menacing its neighbors because it wants to. Even better, it would herald in a new age of Colonialistic conquests driven by the idea of manifest destiny and the right of the conqueror. Russians and their defenders online immediately abandoned any pretense of morality or justification, they would take over Ukraine because. Nobody really believed the “nazis” or “stopping genocide in Donbas”, they themselves would say it with a grin and a wink.

            >However, while Putin seemed so self-satisfied, it all fell apart very quickly. Just as it fell apart against the Poles. Just as it fell apart against the Swedes and the Turks on so many other occasions. Just as it fell apart against the Japanese. Just as it fell apart against the Finns. Because Russia, despite its love of military, of fighting, of menacing, of conquering is rarely militarily up to the task.

            >Russians dont want prosperity or peace. They are different from other peoples in that regard, perhaps no other group in the world shares this trait (even Muslims, who at least are driven by something greater than the need to antagonize). They would rather starve and live in dirt than live in a modern peaceful member of the European community

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >>What made them HATE it about all else was the friendship with the West and total Western hegemony. Gorbachev and Yeltsin are evil traitors because they were chummy with western leaders and worked towards world peace. It was a shameful time because Westerners stopped fearing or caring about Russians. That is not what Russia wants or what Russians want. Russians want to appear strong, to be the "bad guy" (they literally get off culturally on this, being an antagonistic force. Look at their reactions to the first day of le special military operation). Peace is bad, peace isn't cool. Peace means the West stops caring about you.
            they really are orcs, huh

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              Even ~~*Trotsky*~~ called them "White Black folks" for a reason

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              >Peace means the West stops caring about you.
              Tsundorcs

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >i-i-it's not like I *want* to invade you or anything, c-cyka...

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            The world would be better off if Russia got nuked off the face of the earth, we cant go into space with orcs like these around.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Why the fuck did he do it, seriously? Just why?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        probably just what happens when you stay in power for almost 3 decades

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Bad intel (for various reasons) paired with a delusional outlook. I think he legit believes large parts of the retarded conspiratorial shit he spouts in his addresses and speeches. Hard to square that with the reality of his actions though.

        >Oh noes, ebil HATO will invade us any day now!
        >*casually depopulates the entire Western front of its stationed military troops to throw them into the meatgrinder since, y'know, HATO invasion is such a big threat*

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        He probably believed in muh color revolution and that the Ukrainians would all welcome them as liberators from le evil nato empire.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Don't forget Russia also has a space program and tigers.

      T I G E R S

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        And even those they had to steal elsewhere.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Eh that central Asian empire that killed some mongol diplomats for no reason resulting in their relatively massive empire getting killed was worse, but if we are talking modern era sure

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        This is still worse because it's not some dinky regional empire but the largest country in the world. And it's losing to a relative dwarf.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >the largest country in the world*
          *By landmass
          Most of Siberia is unpopulated and their overall population is less than half of that of the U.S.
          Their overall population density is less than a quarter of the United States and it's mostly thanks to Siberia.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >This guy had 22 years to fix Russia and turn it into a veritable superpower,
      Sad isn't it, Russia really could have been a serious challenger to the west. It had all the resources and people it needed. It had the military tradition and it had the defensible geography.

      But instead of a Bismark they got a Mugabe, what a sad pointless exercise in human folly.

  27. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    He could secretly flee to china and then order a full nuclear exchange with the USA and Europe
    they might keep him around as a pet in a compfy mansion if the are able to inherit the world thanks to him

  28. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    He should pull out of Kherson and withdraw to the pre-invasion borders in Luhansk. Focus on holding the landbridge to Crimea and valuable ports in the Black sea. Declare everything else a feint designed to keep the fighting away from true Russia.

  29. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Putin is going to do one of two things, and very soon:
    1. Solidify the lines and declare victory, or
    2. Solidify the lines and announce the shift of military ops to anti-terrorism.
    He's not going to keep mobilizing. The current wave is just to bolster the lines now that the Ukrainians outnumber his forces by a large amount. This is to allow him to switch the geopolitical situation back to normal with resuming gas sales to be the top priority. Putin simply wants to be in a position of strength for those negotiations.

    Conquering Ukraine was NEVER his goal. His original, maximum goals was to do a rapid regime-change; a Russia-friendly client government would be installed and Russia would be out of the country the moment the new government was in, only leaving some troops to offer security. If the Russian army wasn't so spectacularly corrupt and inept the above plot would have probably worked. Kiev would have been fully encircled and that would be that.

    If he can't install a new regime, and he can't have Nord Stream 2, then he's going to try take as much of the Ukrainian large shale gas fields in the eastern and southern parts of the country. That was his "plan B"; if he can't keep the West out of his gas sales entirely, he'll at LEAST keep the West out of Ukraine's huge gas shale gas deposits (which was the point of the 2014 invasion to begin with).

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >This is to allow him to switch the geopolitical situation back to normal with resuming gas sales to be the top priority.
      Through which pipeline?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Through the enormous pipeline infrastructure constructed by the USSR to facilitate that gas trade to begin with. The entire point of Nord Stream was to reduce and eventually eliminate the risk to that gas being at the mercy of Ukraine who inherited all of that infrastructure from the USSR to begin with. That infrastructure is also the reason why the West got involved with Ukraine. The West is trying to get rid of Putin by destroying the basis for his power and tremendous wealth -- by eliminating Russia from the European gas trade. That's why the the US was so bitterly against Nord Stream 2 and basically killed it politically last year.

        I realize this isn't child-level propaganda. Just press the News link under Google to get the child's propaganda outlook.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >I realize this isn't child-level propaganda
          Yeah it is, you just wrote more words to say the same thing.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          What's the throughput of that, retardo? Enough to supply pre-war levels to central Europe?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Conquering Ukraine was NEVER his goal.
      >His original, maximum goals was to do a rapid regime-change; a Russia-friendly client government

      You literally contradicted yourself with the following sentence

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        I think by "conquer" he meant absorbing Ukraine in its entirety and turning it into a set of new oblasts.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Retarded moron thinking this is about money. Look at Russia, do you think Putin cares about money? He has so much money it's irrelevant to him.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >allow him to switch the geopolitical situation back to normal with resuming gas sales to be the top priority
      ahahahahahaha
      oh, wait, you're serious. Let me laugh even harder
      AAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAA

      nobody in Europe will ever buy gas from Russia again. End of story. Go beg China and India if you can sell it to them for a pittance instead. Good luck building the infrastructure though, guess who did that as well?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >nobody in Europe will ever buy gas from Russia again.
        Medium-term? Sure. Long-term? You're a fucking retard. Economic interests almost always trump political ones, especially on large timescales. "Ever" is a long time, stupid.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Is your Asperger's so severe that you need the concept of hyperbole explained to you?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            If you are so developmentally impaired that you think exaggerating that much when in reality it won't even be decades (i.e. "less than twenty years", stupid) before R*ssian gas will once again flow to Europe then I don't think there's any point in continuing to bandy words with you. There's sensible hyperboles and there's complete retardation.

            "Ever" as in as long as Russia still occupies parts of any European country, or has Putin or anyone related to Putinist regime still in charge.

            >"Ever" as in
            You might wanna look up the definition of "ever". This wasn't even implied, let alone spelled out.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              >You might wanna look up the definition of "ever". This wasn't even implied, let alone spelled out.
              So youd admit that Russia will give Ukraine the land back including crimea?

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          "Ever" as in as long as Russia still occupies parts of any European country, or has Putin or anyone related to Putinist regime still in charge.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          the other guy should have qualified: "nobody in Europe will ever buy gas from Putins Russia again"

          economic interests don't come into play. as long as russia remains a mafia state run by a circle of former soviet glowies, it's not gonna be trusted with supplying anything of importance to europe.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Absolutely moronic take. Yes, reliance on it will be intentionally decreased but not one nation is gonna reject cheap hydrocarbons in general because of MUH POLITICS. If nation states were as hyper rational when it came to strategy then the USA wouldn't have made itself so reliant on China etc. or Europe on R*ssia. Lessons may be learned but the economic elites have too much influence to just be completely denied (besides, it's stupid to put yourself at a concrete disadvantage over theoretical drawbacks when compared to those nations willing to profit off of the cheap energy).

            >You might wanna look up the definition of "ever". This wasn't even implied, let alone spelled out.
            So youd admit that Russia will give Ukraine the land back including crimea?

            No idea. Let's hope so. But even if this somehow turns into a Cold War kind of situation (not that I expect R*ssia to be able to hold out long in such a scenario but let's ignore that for now) Europe would sooner or later ramp up R*ssian energy imports again once the latter stops sulking. Fucking UKRAINE is still paying them for oil and gas RIGHT NOW, not to mention the rest of Europe.

            >https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/russian-gas-flows-eu-via-ukraine-remain-stable-nord-stream-stays-shut-2022-09-06/

            Yes, there was some bickering over NordStream (now terminally closed thanks to ... *someone's* sabotage) but a complete cessation of energy imports from R*ssia was never even on the table. None of you seem to grasp even the very basics of realpolitik.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              >cheap gas good
              yes you have a mighty fine grasp of such an intricate concept

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Lmao a 15-year old just discovered YouTube realist school geopolitics.

                Did you have an actual argument ooor ...?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Cheap gas good but gas you can't count on and which undermines your national security is barely gas at all

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >A good deal which you can't rely on is barely a good deal at all
                Missed the part about "reliance will be decreased", huh? It'll end up being somewhere between "necessary" and "nice to have". If total share dropped to, say, 15% or so then even a complete stop of deliveries wouldn't be the end of the world but in the meantime you'd still make/save a bunch of money if it was sufficiently cheap. You'd be an idiot to go "0% R*ssian share of my energy at all cost" in spite of that.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Look, you're welcome to pop over from /lgbt/ or /int/ or whatever and get decent war analysis, nogunz, but if you want to be a gay, go back to your board. No one here cares about your gay and lame takes on energy generation. We're here to talk about dead Russians.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >nogunz reference
                >BOARD BAD
                Nice attempt to blend in, newfag.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              Lmao a 15-year old just discovered YouTube realist school geopolitics.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          I think with all the "fossil fuel bad" schtuff beeing pushed in Europe we are more liekly to see natural gas beeing of little demand in the EU before Russia is allowed to export again.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Dumb take. Natural gas ramped up precisely because of MUH FOSSIL FUELS BAD. It's much, much better in terms of CO2 footprint than, say, coal for example and simply substituting the former for the latter is an easy way to look good on that front.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              >much better in terms of CO2 footprint than, say, coal
              And shitton worse than nuclear. Even germany is waking up from their autism and planning new nuclear plants currently.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Nuclear power is a meme that overstayed its welcome. Price alone is a reason to forego it in CURRENT YEAR.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                delusional
                nuclear is more long term cost effective than even the cheapest of fossil fuels (gas) unless you are a gulf state where the gas is basically free and infinite

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                and miles worse than the forecast for renewables with many more potential externalities

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                But better than ruskie gas that the cunts keep turning off for shits and giggles.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >the forecast for renewables
                >forecast
                lol
                lmao

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >nuclear is more long term cost effective
                Hahaha, what!? What's that even supposed to mean? Especially considering that the price to consumers almost never includes decommissioning and final storage costs which get socialized and paid by the government (at least in part).

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                You're talking to European nogunz war tourists, dog.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              Fair enough. Another absolutly retarded take was Germany getting rid of all its nuclear in order to keep both coal and Russian gas tho.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Brainlet take

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Putin is going to do one of THREE things, and very soon:
      >1. Solidify the lines and declare victory, or
      >2. Solidify the lines and announce the shift of military ops to anti-terrorism
      3. Be killed

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Solidify the lines
      He can't.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >If he can't install a new regime, and he can't have Nord Stream 2, then he's going to try take as much of the Ukrainian large shale gas fields
      Why didn't you mention Ukrainian shale gas at the beginning, I'd have known not to waste time on you.

  30. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Dump a bunch of untrained conscripts and old men in the "new" Russian oblasts and hope its works out before they all freeze to death come winter.

  31. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Every physically possible outcome is doomed to happen in some parallel universe if the MW interpretation of QM is true. There will be a WWIII, there will be an ukrainian victory, there will be a russian victory, there will be an universe in which every soldier of both parties randomly starts deserting, so why the fuck would it matter?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      https://nothingeverhappensto.me/we-will-all-die-on-the-slopes-of-the-himalayas/

  32. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Tactical regrooping a pistol to his head

  33. 2 months ago
    Sage All Cuckraine Threads

    ACES! More Ukraine spam!
    >nothing changes until you start saging these threads newfags

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Is this while Gervais is speaking?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        No, while Streep was up there being a sanctimonious retard.

  34. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Declare the "special operation" for concluded to save face with his buttbuddies, pull out everyone to the boarder and keep Ukraine in a state of warfare at said boarder for as long as possible to prevent them from joining NATO.
    The longer he tries to properly annex the regions the more of an emberassment he becomes.

  35. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Even complete occupation of Ukraine (which now probably wouldn't even mean the end of hostilities given the partisan activities) wouldn't provide a NET gain anymore at this point, assuming continued sanctions. The R*ssian economy is beyond fucked, its future is a smouldering ruin. People on PrepHole don't seem to be keen on economic analysis and thus are apparently unaware of just how reliant they are on foreign imports for almost EVERYTHING. Their manufacturing in particular is a fucking joke without Western parts. Some of that is just a consequence of living in a 21st century global civilization but even with that in mind R*ssia is much, much less capable than even considerably smaller European nations for example. Take their domestic toolmaking industry: Almost completely reliant on (mostly) German machines. And to a lesser degree it's been this way even before the collapse of the USSR.

    R*ssia is a peripheral power, to borrow the term from world systems theory, and doomed to stay that way for a whole host of reasons. By sperging out in February and drawing the ire of the majority of Earth's power centers (and not even securing the support of the ones who felt indifferent) they fucked themselves beyond comprehension. This kind of demise doesn't become readily apparent within a matter of weeks or months since depletion of replacement parts etc. only matters on longer time scales but once it does hit its consequences will be catastrophic. Think worse than their dreaded Wild Nineties.

    Honestly, the only option for R*ssians to avoid at least the utter ruin of their nation in economic and political terms would be a voluntary surrender on the scale of Germany/Japan. MAYBE they could still at least keep their nukes but short of a complete withdrawal, war crime trials, public prostrations and so on the West is unlikely to let this chimpout slide in the foreseeable future. If the FSB letters are legit then analysts in R*ssia itself are extremely aware of this, too.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous
  36. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Surrender is a military option

  37. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Ukrainians are misled Russians according to the ideology he has been trying to build for years now. He can't nuke his "own" people.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Ukrainian identity is much younger than Russian. In the past they were genuinely called Little Russians and were seen as just rural Russians from the south.
      This is no longer the case. Putin managed to truly divide Ukrainian identity from Russian/former Soviet for good.

  38. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Nuke Kiev. It’s a justified and proportional response to aggressions against Russian territory.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Elaborate.

  39. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Well. His resignation and suicide would seem the obvious option.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Interesting thought, make a note of it Darling.

  40. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    He will call the....Z Men

  41. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    1) Lose Ukraine, all of it.
    2) Use a nuke and lose Russia.

  42. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    There are two, let's say "plausible", options, both now totally out of his control and quite impossible, but they are there.

    Saved by the midterms: the gop insolatonist wing get enough seats to hinder or block the lend lease, no more money or supplies from the USA would be quite bad, even if UK keeps helping. If they block access to Intel resources would be even worse.

    Saved by the crazies: some people say that Putin, even with the retarded decisions he's making, it's the most grounded and realist of the siloviki, if he's defebestrated the replacement could be more belligerent and even more retarded, so the west will offer him a way out so he doesn't get replaced with someone worse.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Is there even large enough isolationist faction in USA to achieve that?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Well they are there, they are like ten of twelve senators who voted against, so no, if they get the numbers to be a threat probably the whip can bully enough of them to vote yes and keep the flow running.

        Now if Putin can survive two years up to the end of the term and Trump gets reelected (if he's the candidate...), he probably will have zero problems to manipulate him and gave the help cut, he knows very well which keys touch to have Trump do his bidding

  43. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    So assuming these losses continue or even increase exponentially, Russia is fucked in this conflict. But at what point do they give up, and how? They've already shown willingness to massively downscale ambitions when they withdrew drom the north and abandoned immediate conquest of the whole country in favour of pushing from the east. If even this limited plan fails, what then? Surely they won't hold on for every square inch of soil. I imagine at some point monke realises holding the east isn't possible and withdraws everything remaining to defend Crimea. Then we have a big standoff there which probably the ukrainians still win but this time with more nuclear sabre rattling.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      i'm really looking forward to the russian economic collapse over the winter
      they will have much bigger things to worry about than keeping crimea

  44. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    honestly want to see the chaos a full mobilization would cause within Russia and human wave tactics in 2022.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Mobilization is already fizzling out. 300,000 Russians fled the country and tons of reservists aren't showing up. They're not gonna be able to get that many bodies for the grinder.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        I assume that's because they're afraid of a revolt and not putting on too much pressure, they still aren't closing the borders or really stopping people from leaving. still possible for Putin disregard the consequences and really push the limits of how pacified the Russian people have become.

  45. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    In terms of what he will realistically do? Russia has the unfortunate habit of doubling down ad infinitum and then when they finally get completely shitkicked hold a grudge over it for the next 300 years. They are a people pathologically incapable of recognizing that they are a cancer on humanity and have been for at least 400 years.

    In realistic terms? Well, cut his losses. Ukraine won't stop. At all. Not at Crimea. Not at Donetsk. They don't want to leave Russia a single fucking foothold and will keep fighting until they are gone. They don't give a fuck about compromise to it and have gone more balls to the wall as the war went on.

    As such the closest thing to a clean exit that Putin can get is to order a full retreat, cooperate with war criminal prosecution and most importantly, willingly cede Crimea and terminate the Sevastopol lease in exchange for sanctions being dropped and reparations being taken off the table,

    He won't do that. Russia will never sell its overblown, copium fueled sense of pride. But it would be the only safe exit he has. We have gone well past sunk value at this point even if Russia somehow turns the tide. They are fucked unless they reign in the long term consequences.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >They are fucked
      putin and his gang is fucked, yes
      but for russia and russians I'd say the best outcome is a complete military defeat like japan or germany after WW2, ideally with a temporary occupation by NATO forces
      maybe that would finally make them realize nobody wants to attack them and everybody could have their own washing machine if they only stopped behaving like 16th century highwaymen

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Don’t forget that there are separatists in the oblasts that genuinely want to join Russia. If Russia has to withdraw they will ferment dissent and arm the separatists to keep going the war that has been rumbling since 2014, until Russia is ready to have another go. Rinse and repeat until sanctions work and Europe completely replaces Russian petrochemicals

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Won't a better equipped, more motivated Ukrainian army simply crush them at this point?

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          They won't find a conventional war, probably a guerilla one with some support from Russia. Not sure how impactful that will be though.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Don’t forget that there are separatists in the oblasts that genuinely want to join Russia.
        Maybe before the war they were. After the war they either changed their minds, or were conscripted and sent to die.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        there isn't any men left there, those that survive are so broken there will be zero resistance

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Doubt it. There's going to be a lingering security threat on Ukraine's frontier for a very long time after this and there's really no doubt in my mind that Russians will be crossing the border Taliban style to stir shit up for years to come.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        A: they're mostly dead
        B: Ukraine had a smaller army than some larps in 2014, now it has a large, battle hardened force
        C: the seperatists relied on constant Russian intervention and the threat if invasion to survive. That won't fucking work if Russia loses.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Reparations won't ever be off the table. They can be enforced unilaterally by the west in the form of tarrifs on Russian imports/exports remitted to Ukraine and hand-over of seized assets abroad.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Reparations are nit a thing and haven't been since WW1, can you guess why?

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          There were reparations from WWII and from the invasion of Kuwait by Iraq.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Objectively incorrect.

          Pretty much every axis force had to pay war reparations in greater or lesser fashion. As did Iraq to Kuwait after they got BTFO'd to the tune of 52 billion dollars, if you want a recent example. The process was less vindictive than in the past with this only being roughly a seventh of the sum asked by Kuwait.

          We just stopped comprehensively bankrupting our past enemies. But that did not stop us from getting about 230 billion dollars worth of reparations from Germany (adjusted for inflation), or about a third of what we beat out of them in WW1, and about the same amount from Japan. After WW2 the allies also made a point out of it of using labor and material appropriation rather than debt to collect reparations.

          C'mon lad, this took like a single search

  46. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    A bullet to the brain sounds like a good idea.

  47. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >What are his military options at this point?
    Surrender.

  48. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >What are his military options at this point?
    losing

  49. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Better question would be what can Russia do when they depose him.

  50. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Nuke the US command center in Germany and Polland. Nuke Lviv district. retire with a smile and eat popcorn when muricunts will start eating each others because they cant do nothing about.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >nuke American C+C
      >can't do nothing about it

      Are you familiar with a little piece of kit called an InterContinental Ballistic Missile?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >they cant do nothing about.
      aight, bet

  51. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    He got a lot of his military leaders friends killed. Destroyed their entire army in terms of materiel, personnel and reputation. The economy is heading for a nosedive. What’s going to happen when these masses of under trained, under armed draftees start getting slaughtered? Is there anyone left inRussia with two balls to rub together?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I think his whole idea is to find everyone with balls and send them to commit suicide via HATO before a revolt can happen

  52. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >retarded "TRUMP IS A RUSSIAN ASSET TAKE"
    Opinion discarded. The guy who made opposition whine because he threatened to bomb Moscow if Putin didn't play nice is not going to hand over a nation to him.
    Fascinatingly, the geopolitics is not based around the "ORANGE MAN BAD" meme.

  53. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Right now his best move is to maximize military losses and purge anyone disloyal in Rosguardia to prevent a postwar collapse coup.
    His current moves seem to indicate this is what's happening.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >kill off entire male population
      >the country becomes one big harem with one man at the top
      Truly a genius plan.

  54. 2 months ago
    Anonymous
  55. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Stop making threats about using nukes or fighting NATO. Stop shelling random cities and save that ammo for actual enemy forces. Abandon all territory but Donbabwe and Luganda. Consolidate all forces available to hopefully hold on to those two places. Evacuate anything and everything Russian from Crimea before the Ukies can blow that very important bridge because they're absolutely going to the moment they're in range. Imprison or execute anyone caught abandoning things like tanks, trucks, and equipment that could have been saved and used.

    The Ukrainians would absolutely still come to take them back but your forces are much more concentrated making it likely much harder to breach the lines. This isn't a guaranteed win even if your war goals now become just taking Luganda and Donbabwe but you're less likely to get steamrolled and have massive collapses of your front lines.

    Honestly, Putin's best option is to disappear one night with a fuckload of money and some prime pussy. He's probably not making it out of this alive otherwise whether it be war crimes that come back to haunt him or one of his own men giving him a headspace adjustment.

  56. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Dig in and consolidate whatever territories left he has, use civilians as human shields, of course the problem is that by this point it has become painfully obvious Russia military is a relic of a bygone past, they are being destroyed from a thousand cuts, from getting their supply lines destroyed, it's becoming obvious massed warfare and sheer numbers isn't going to save them, what's the point of sending 1000 tanks and 100,000 conscripts to battle where they are picked up by small teams who first go for the logistics jugular?

    Even using tactical nukes will be pointless as Ukranians have avoided as much as possible troops concentrations and nuking the cities of a territory you claim you are liberating and belongs to you is counter intuitive, you don't need to be a genius to see a man nuking "his own" country as someone who you better get rid off ASAP.

    What is worse for Putin is he literally can't remove the same incompetent generals who turned their army into a mockery as they are their main supporters in this whole mess, he is caught surrounded by idiots, the biggest idiot of them all.

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