We all know that it's possible, I'm just not sure of the magnitude and of the consequences.
https://news.sky.com/story/ukraine-news-live-putin-looting-steel-bound-for-uk-major-deal-to-relieve-food-crisis-to-be-signed-russian-forces-increasing-missile-use-12541713
FYI:
>The Zaporizhzhia Nuclear Power Station (aka "Zaporizhzhia NPP" and "ZNPP") in southeastern Ukraine is *the largest nuclear power plant in Europe* and among the 10 largest in the world.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zaporizhzhia_Nuclear_Power_Plant
>WEARPON
yeah
>yet ANOTHER massive nuclear disaster inbound from russian incompetence
Its honestly impressive one godforsaken chunk of rock can be such a goddamned problem in regards to anything nuclear related. At least now they can’t just bury it all, like Kyshtym, of which they admitted when saying to the UN they had experience in cleaning up major disasters before. Truly the gift that keeps giving.
>inbound from russian incompetence
are ukrainians russian now?
Russia captured the plant and uses it as cover snd ammo storage facility like they did with Chernobyl' plant during northern offensive.
The Ukrainians just said they can’t even run usual procedures because Russians keep getting in the damn way. Not to mention they turned it into an ammo depot for whatever fricking reason, and I don’t think I need to explain what could possibly go wrong with that anymore.
>mfw anatoly dyatlov was born in siberia
Jesus Christ this rabbit hole has no ending. Its like they’re biologically designed to be the most dangerous beings in the universe the second a sievert of radioactivity is involved.
>Not to mention they turned it into an ammo depot
it quite logical to a russian, just put your ammo in a place where no sane man would try and hit it.
Thats the problem anon, most of the ones that blew up weren’t even hit at all. The Smooker of Moscow is always looming.
Cant wait till classic russian incompetence manages to detonate plastic explosives from the 1960's with RDX crystals the size of shoguis wood collection, blowing up the spent fuel containment facility to bits with the water pumps and all of the aux shit RBMK style, if russians have two braincells interconnected which at this point is debatable, they powered down the reactor and the only thing to worry about is leaks due to fuel getting out, ether due to damages to the facility, russian grunts trying to sell nuke material to durkas and norks, or just russians looting everything, including spicy metal rods that make your pubes fall off if you keep it in your pocket
>detonate plastic explosives from the 1960's with RDX crystals the size of shoguis wood collection
RDX is stable. The scenario you're describing is what used to happen with antique dynamite made with nitroglycerin. It doesn't happen with RDX based plastic explosives.
Isint RDX mixed with a plasticizer and also tends to crystallize out of the plasticizer over time ?
RDX crystals are stable, unlike nitroglycerin crystals. The purpose of the plasticizer is to make the explosive conveniently plastic, e.g. mold-able. This is different from classic dynamite, which uses a sort of clay to stabilize the notoriously temperamental nitroglycerin.
Interesting, I've figured that the biggest contributor to the stability is the plasticizer
Always were.
>''hahaha ukrainians are just russians in denial''
>''no, but ukies did *instert bad thing here*''
Already discussed.
Vatnogs made here ammunition depot and shelling city across the river.
i hope every russian cronie, general, goon and oligarch gets put to cleaning up the radioactive mess after this.
Reactors are built like a fortress, it probably wont go breasts up unless Ilya decides to take a souvenir (very likely).
If radioactivity reaches NATO countries we will have to declare war tbh. It's akin to a deliberate nuclear nuke. Tolerating a nuclear attack on Europe would mean NATO might as well dissolve.
>If radioactivity reaches NATO countries we will have to declare war tbh
It reached Sweden in 1986, when Chernobyl blew up, no war was declared.
It was a "honest mistake" and the Soviet Union back then.
Russia is pretty much a joke compared.
That was a bit different. It was faulty manufacturing and incompetence that led to the meltdown. This is caused by Russia knowing shelling a nuclear plant
Russia is unironically way more aggressive than the SU was. Here, they're basically holding the plant hostage to facilitate the war effort. If it goes kaboom, due to accident or them wanting to go scorched earth, they could deal pretty much permanent damage to the soil of Europe.
Do you want the ability to do permanent damage to the planet as acceptible precedent during war? No. So you declare war with the intent of getting them to retreat out of Ukraine. Simple.
They're not actually shelling it, but they're preventing them from performing maintenance, draining the cooling pools and storing ammo inside the reactor chambers. So that if you fire on the site, there's a chance it will blow.
Even if the site is missile proofed, it probably cannot take an ammo dump explosion.
>Do you want the ability to do permanent damage to the planet as acceptible precedent during war
YES.
That's not incompetence, that's intentional malice. As everything orcs do.
It's great, we will purge them from the nuclear wasteland that Europe will turn into.
>intentional malice
Due to incompetence as tney don't know the shit that their actions will cause
>storing ammo inside the reactor chambers
Wouldn't it cause contamination ?
It would have if it really happened.
>It reached Sweden in 1986
You do realize that Sweden was not a NATO member state at that time, right?
I mean, it's not even a member right now, technically.
Well, gentlemen, you've heard the poster Anonymous No.54662108. We need to be ready to declare war ASAP. Miss President, Mr. Head Secretary, sign here and here.
I've got a call on the line.
Yes, Mr. Schwab? Yes, ve vill go by the plan.
>Wanting to nuke russia must be a reptile conspiracy
Everyone who has had to live near or experience russians wants to nuke you. The unearned smugness, the constant lying and the need to frick others over for personal gain has pushed everyone over the edge.
the worst case of a NPP being used as a means of war is that you basically dirty bomb the enemy/surroundings
On that note, it's pretty much ground for an intervention in my book since it's not that different from the dirty bomb
PLEASE KEEP ON FIRING. I WANT TO SEE EUROPE BURNT!
What's the go to if this thing blows? I am in Norway but i realize the winds will carry dust here. Bunker down in your house with 2 weeks supply of food + tape all airgaps in the windows and doors?
It's back to wearing masks.
Supply of water. Also don't forget to take your iodine, it'll prevent a buildup of radioactive crap in your thyroid.
Don't forget to kill all russians when it's over.
I remember regular tablesalt having iodine in it. But i'll grab a pack or sack or whatever of those iodine pills too just in case for my family.
Table salt has a little bit of iodine in it, but if you’re dealing with an actual nuclear emergency, you’re going to want to have proper iodine tablets, as the iodine in table salt is trace amounts at best.
The iodine they put in salt isn't enough to combat the effects of radiation. They just put it there so kids don't grow up moronic from the lack of it
Can you imagine the absolute genocide Russians would face after such bullshit? It would make the Holocaust look like a fricking joke.
There's absolutely nothing you can do to them. It's how MAD works.
>It's how MAD works.
MAD does work.
Russian nukes - not so much tho.
Heck of a gamble, innit? If you're wrong the west is over.
I thought the west was full of roasties and trannies and you hated it anyways? LoL. Let the Russian freeze in nuclear winter for all I care. If he doesn't have a massive first strike he dies. If he does, he still dies. Catch 22 for the Russian.
I'll take those odds ivan.
If MAD works, then the nukes are "working". The purpose of the nukes is MAD, not blowing things up.
Oh no not more radiation on top of my large critical nuclear reactor dose of radiation.
You ... you do know how nukes work, do you? Most people get incinerated, not radioactively poisoned.
Oh no not instant death, whatever shall I do?
Your ashes could burn. That would help, I guess.
>you hated it anyways
Firstly: No? I don't care who, why, and how someone mutilates their sexual organs.
Secondly: Nice try to reverse positions here, mate.
Thirdly: According to /k/opers Russians are used to worse, so I suppose they'll survive.
>image
based changs properly utilising MAD even against non-military threats
China has gone full vatnik.
It's why subhumans should not be allowed to own nukes - the next step from this is "Help, UN, prop up my failed state or I noook!"
That's about what happened during the collapse of the Soviet union.
>if you don't bail us out we'll just not bother with controlling our nuclear silos
>and everyone can get in and help themselves
>do you want that, west? do you want that happening?
I find it troubeling how the CCP is succesfully using nationalism to distract the average chinese from the shitshow that is CCP china.
Good news. Even that appearance is a farce.
always was
Practically begging for a preemptive strike
They'll shoot back.
They will try.
They have no credible second strike capability and not enough warheads for true MAD.
Again, a heck of a gamble, but if you're suicidal enough, I suppose.
>be Russian
>barely win against Nazi Germany, losing double-digit percentages of your population in the process
>find it appropriate to level threats against those who have the ability to inflict destruction that not even the Nazis, in their darkest, most perverted fantasies could have even begun to comprehend
What do Vatniks mean by this?
Leave some genociding for me, fren
There's a good official cold war era US survival manual pdf for this but frick if I can remember which one, I'm sure someone here knows the one I mean. I know I have a copy somewhere but I can't look through my unsorted storage media right now to find it, it could take hours.
2 week supply of canned food and bottled water for the entire family, don't sleep near walls, tape airgaps. After a week or so brush any dust off your pathway, wear a mask, even a damp rag will do in a pinch and pray an evac is coming. Make a little decontamination room near your entrance where you can doff clothes from outside to keep from tracking shit all over your home. Essential shit, torch, radio, lighters for if gas supply is cut.
Check out the ration General whenever you see one, some chaps here will make their own preserved rice and bean MREs which are pretty neat. Dont forget you'll need water for hygiene too.
I mean, this already happened after Chernobyl and while there were consequences such as forcing the slaughter of tens of thousands of reindeers and telling everyone not to pick berries and mushrooms, a complete breakdown in freshwater supply or something of similar weight is completely unrealistic.
In the worst possible scenario, the entire nation wouldn’t be covered with radiation.
Any order to evacuate would come long before the radiation arrives in Norway.
Getting some radiation
MONOLITH
>Private Blyatovich, put our forces as close to the engines of invisible death and agony as possibe. The hohols will never bomb us.
>But, General Pidorovich....what if they DO bomb us along with the engines of invisible death and agony?
>Why worry
Russia is one giant meme. And not the good kind.
9 soldiers already have been converted to glowiers
ITT, posters unfamiliar with the history of the troops in and around Zaporozhye NPP and how moronic their officers look, sound and most probably are.
These people are barely literate and you want them to worry about the consequences of radiation?
Not really the point here. Doesn't matter they're too stupid to understand what radiation poisoning is, what does matter is the fact that they're now effectively in charge of an unstable facility well beyond their comprehension.
I no longer hope for anything.
For me, runoggs is the ISIS state with atomic bombs.
What do with this shit than a preventive nuclear strike, i don't know.
Depends on wind patterns at time. Currently it would mostly hit areas occupied by russia and to lesser extend romania, bulgaria and Turkey.
Wait, I thought the winds normally went western, which is how the west found about about Chernobyl
Crimea
Russians don't seem to have good luck with anything nuclear
>Pic
Kek, i have no doubt that their nukes are rusty.
As long as they ignite it matters not.
Half of them will explode in russia territory.
But yeah, it does not matters.
That's still 3000 nukes that will wreck the world.
Their total warhead count is irrelevant, number of 24/7 ready ICBMs is what matters.
And i doubt it is that many, they still use liquid fuel ICBMs
Your doubts matter as much as the shitstains on my toilet paper when it comes to mutually assured destruction. I want proof.
>pic
This is why hygiene is important during anal sex.
>covering a nuke in camouflage netting
>leaving the vehicle itself uncovered
those morons really like doing everything in half measures
>camouflage net
Anon, its not a camouflage net...
Look further back along the fuselage.
Look at the warhead. It looks like the net stops at the warhead
if theres a meltdown is very likely NATO will do something since the radiation wont stay only in Ukraine, it will get into eastern europe like with Chernobyl
After a meltdown? AFTER a meltdown. Black person, by the time we get to after a meltdown, the damage is already done.
I say NATO should conduct a massive nuclear First Strike on Russia right now and put a stop to this once and for all.
>I say NATO should conduct a massive nuclear First Strike on Russia right now and put a stop to this once and for all.
I do appreciate this argument in general, this Sword of Damocles that is a nuclear threat from nations and cultures that have shown to be completely unreasonable and uncivilized needs to be dealt with. Ukrainians have shown that post-Soviet Slavs can adapt and reform to some extent, but the Russians blatantly refuse to, and even double down on their backward self-victimization where their only outlet is pull everyone else down instead of try to fix themselves. They need to shape up quick or they should be put down for the betterment of human civilization.
<< This is for the good of the world! >>
Here here, better to take the chance and blast the ching chongs and vatBlack folk than let them drag us down to hell.
we should just take the bet at this point and try to preemptively decapitate russia
t. someone who is most certainly going to get nuked in the process
>westerners on suicide watch
bro russia keeps pushing it we hardly have a choice at this point if we dont want to get nuked first or submit
bunch of fricking morons
Based, I'm in Florida near Macdill. Russian nukes don't work and Chinese nukes are obsolete. The only problem with a preemptive strike from the US is our "allies". They're certainly going to cry about it.
im in cologne so pretty much the area to maximize damage in germany with a single nuke
youre right but more people realize daily that the russian question needs a final solution
russians actually believe they can bully the whole world into submission but where is this supposed to lead us? vatniks dont seem to think AT ALL its insane
>vatniks dont seem to think AT ALL its insane
They unironically believe their Africa-tier standard of living should be spread to the civilized world.
Your entire lifestyle is built off of third world slave labour.
Cry about it Black person loving commie
>Doesn't deny it
lmao
Why would we? There's nothing you can do about it anyway.
We can move to your countries and right historical wrongs 🙂
Good luck getting to Europe. Italy has fallen to the right wing who've not afraid to shoot down refugee boats, and if you come by plane you'll simply be sent back. And with regards to the USA - good luck getting over the ocean.
*glug glug*
And the US? is that a joke lmao, el 56%o
The third world is welcome to stop taking those business contracts at any time
Sure we will, as we become more developed and the Western world continues to decay, we'll get increasingly favorable deals until it tips in our favour. And once you filthy Neanderthals run out of your stolen wealth...well that's a while off yet 🙂
Oh no a bunch of incels temporarily took power in one European country, what a tragedy.
>temporarily
Now you're just coping.
Not an argument.
Yes, do you think elections will never happen again lol
We won't get shot out at sea lmao, we get invited in.
>Yes, do you think elections will never happen again lol
>implying that people care more about importing Black folk than helping Ukraine
I've got some bad news for you ...
that people care more about importing Black folk
Yes lmao.
Is this the famous Black person delusion I keep hearing about?
Ok good, then stop b***hing about your own self imposed labour conditions
>Self imposed
Yes, because we can compete without industrializing lmao
>I CANT INDUSTRIALOOOOOZE
the eternal monke
And who are the slave owners? It's not Westerners. It really appears to be unscrupulous leaders in the third world enslaving their own people for their monetary gain.
But you don't want us to invade them to correct those wrongs either. You don't want us to cut them off from aid or funding or business. You don't want us to support freedom movements. You don't want to do anything except b***h at us. You're even more hypocritical than we are, because at least we don't pretend to be those poor enslaved gays friends, and we would invade and free them if we could. But we can't, because of people like you.
>What do YOU want
White people extinct would be a good start, although Russians can be an exception since all the rest of you Neanderthals hate them lol
Stfu homosexual erectus you're not human.
I think we really should just like Africa starve.
>inb4 Russia will supply them
Through what? The Suez Canal? Soon even the the Mediterranean is going to be off-limited to Russian freighters.
>Enslave Africans
>Strip away their wealth
>Hehe look at these fricking Black folks starve xD
Unfortunately for you, your women put a premium on BBC, so we'll be taking you over in short order anyway lmao
Seethe more cumskin
>your women put a premium on BBC
Nope.
>2014
lol
I just said we are tho lol, god you yts are stupid
You got better data? No, of course you don't. You're a Black person.
>m-muh data and my racist incel board!!!!
Tiny dick energy the lol
"cumskin" is my favorite jigaboo insult.
pure cargo cult.
It surprises me that India is in the green
We'll see how long they stay that way:
https://www.independent.co.uk/asia/india/bhagwant-mann-hospitalised-water-river-b2128915.html
Well shit filled water is probably great for plants, water and fertilizer at the same time
Still sucks compared to nitrogen-based fertilizers ... although considering that those are falling off the market due to gas shortages in Europe I suppose it's better than nothing,
Isn't crop fertilized with human shit unhealthy though? I'm pretty sure it's one of the main reason the norks are always found infested with weird intestinal bugs and worms and shit.
Yeah. Too many diseases and parasites carry over for safe consumption. It's not just norks, many poor Middle Easterners and Africans, too.
>north korea
>food secure
lmao
The times of public grass collecting were from 1994 - 2002, with Kim Yong Il (who was a complete moron). Although to be honest the latest info we got from this year doesn't paint a too rosy picture for NK, either
Really smelling like a /misc/ false flag here, gotta be honest.
>get utterly btfo
>M-muh /misc/
/k/ope lmao
Yeah, your PrepHole screenshot infographic about wiener size really BTFO this thread about combat at a nuclear plant in Ukraine. Very on point and relevant.
Black person Black person hoe hoe
Not a single Highfleet reference. Disappointing.
It's not a nuclear plant at all but if it is we didn't build it but if we did then it's totally safe but if it isn't then it's the Ukrainians shelling it but if it's us doing that then you've done the same thing too and why do you keep picking on us?
jfc can't you get your english down for the length of a single shitpost?
Wondering what any of the above circa. 20 posts has to do with the OP.
/pol/Black folk are a pure cancer on any board, because left to themselves they will turn every single thread into discussions of BBC and israelites.
Don’t forget Discord too, some 30 year old unironic black incels or whatever just doxxed themselves with dick pics and they’re not exactly endowed to say the least. And they were fat of course. Match made in the underworld for sure.
>I give this thread 5-10 more minutes
>I'm just not sure of the magnitude and of the consequences.
Radical environmentalist love it. They use Chernobyl as an example of how nature quickly taking over and reforestation comes back with force, but does not allowing humans in the area or tehy get cancer!
Remember watching the video camera footage from the first few days or whatever.
Shit was wack.
This Black folk camped out next to Chernobyl and slept on radioactive dirt.
whats stopping russia from declaring an ultimatum that Ukraine needs to be surrender or they will destroy all their nuclear plants?
Massive NATO airstrikes followed by the introduction of American ground troops into Ukraine
Immediate NATO intervention. Another Chernobyl would kill the European continent just as surely as nuclear war would, it'd just take longer. In such a case NATO would literally have nothing to lose.
>NATO would have nothing to lose
Except for the two largest members of NATO, which would still have a lot to lose.
Intervention, based on wind patterns there is a likely chance that destroying the nuclear plants will contaminate NATO nations
It's also a "do not negotiate with terrorists" situation. If Russia can destroy the reactors and face no punishmens, why would they not do it again? Simple fact of the matter is. The only appropriate response is to bury their military so completely that the earth will turn over a thousand times before their bodies are dug up.
>is to bury their military so completely that the earth will turn over a thousand times before their bodies are dug up
heh
>putin nukes moscow
>you made me do this biden
So they’re just going to blow up a nuke on territory they currently control / will control? Because….why? Absolutely not because the Ukrainians are using it as a safehouse.
The cores are basically armored, i wouldnt worry too much
I don't know any armor outside of Cheyenne Mountain that can handle an ammo dump explosion
Russian stupidity knows no bounds.