Neighbor placed a belgian malinois in our shared courtyard. It is in a small cage and barks nearly 24/7. I asked him politely to do something to reduce the barking and he has told me to go f*ck myself.
I am putting together a 20W DIY speaker setup to try to play ultrasonic sound to silence the dog.
Any and all advice is greatly appreciated. I have no experience on this topic.
Here's what I have sourced so far.
Crown 20 watt horn speaker.
small bluetooth amp I intend to connect to a phone playing the audio files.
Dog is approximately 25 feet away from my door which I will be mounting the speaker on.
This type of speaker will not be very effective at reproducing ultrasonic frequencies. You need something like a tweeter or piezoelectric transducer.
Of course, there's always the final solution
See my last post. It's a bit too late to poison it and I dont have access to its water dish for that wienertail.
I was going to lob a few Xylitol stuffed meatballs into its cage. I've already done some research on poisoning dogs because the noise is unbearable.
Thanks for the advice on speakers, I'll look into piezoelectric
these are 150watts, looks like i'll need a bigger amp.
Anyone know at what point this will cause permanent damage to the dog?
>Anyone know at what point this will cause permanent damage to the dog?
Hearing damage is based on intensity and duration of exposure.
Intensity is inverse-square to distance from the emitter. So moving the emitter further away will greatly reduce the intensity of the sound.
Duration is obviously what you control by how you cycle the emission. Do you just do short bursts? Or do you let it run continuously? This not lifetime duration of exposure, but rather there's some recovery period after which the temporary impairment heals after exposure. Like the ringing in your ears going away after a loud sound.
Since you are using ultrasound that is presumably beyond your own hearing, you really have no way to appraise the intensity of the sound (short of electronic equipment). So honestly, you really have no fricking clue what it's going to do to the dog. Maybe the reason the gadgets you bought don't work is that the dog is already half-deaf to the frequencies used?
Oh, and don't presume that ultrasound can't harm yourself or your family. True, you don't have much if any hearing in that frequency band to lose directly. But ultrasound can have direct affects on other aspects of your physiology. And ultrasound can interact with the environment to produce resonances that are actually in your hearing range (there's an emerging area of study around using ultrasound to broadcast human-audible sound over longer distances).
The speaker will be positioned in my door frame between the door and screen door. I will have my door closed and I will be using weatherstripping foam to insulate the area around the door.
I am hoping that the sound will be shielded enough from the interior..
but yes I have given thought to how it could impact me and my family. I tried it out using a normal speaker and i could hear the 20hz tone and it made my head ring.
the point of dog whistles is they're comfortably outside the human hearing range.
That's really what you should use btw - one or more dog whistles on a small air compressor, pump, etc
and it doesn't need to run all the time. 15-30 seconds every 5-10 minutes would be way more irritating than "all the time" at least to me
Small compressors are generally nearly tankless and need to run pretty frequently. Am I supposed to deal with the noise of a compressor and sit there and time out the bursts or program some sort of arduno controlled valve release. Sounds a lot more complicated than a speaker/amp/mp3.
> Sounds a lot more complicated than a speaker/amp/mp3.
Well, it's not, because mp3 is capped at about 20khz and can't reproduce a dogwhistle frequency ever. And 90% of consumer speakers can't either; you'd need audiophile grade tweeters.
Also a small fan is not remotely loud or power-hungry. You do not need 100psi, you barely need "human lung pressure"
100% right
good idea, cheap.
right
will never work. bluetooth, and probably this whole amplifier, can't do ultrasonic. see
>a small fan
You underestimate what "human lung pressure" actually is.
Weak human lungs have static pressures of 600 mm h2o.
Strong computer fans have static pressures of 8 mm h2o.
No, that's not a mistake, it's literally two orders of magnitude difference.
I did a project recently where I tried to build a positive pressure respirator. I needed a ridiculous fan capable of inflating outdoor balloon displays to get any amount of air through a KN95 that was cut in half.
>ridiculous fan
The thing you're looking for is called a compressor...
Give me a break
I don't think it takes all that pressure to blow a whistle, anon.
In fact, it's probably closer to... two orders of magnitude less
>Strong computer fans have static pressures of 8 mm h2o. I needed a ridiculous fan capable of inflating outdoor balloon displays to get any amount of air through a KN95 that was cut in half.
this isn't PrepHole, we use parts other than Newegg and Origin here.
Pic related is a LARGE FAN. fans appreciably smaller than pic related; a 20" box or a tiny-ass HVAC blower are probably "small fans" to OP and anon, even though you can't use them for gayming.
>these are 150watts, looks like i'll need a bigger amp
You wouldn't need a bigger amp. Horn drivers are very efficient and can produce high volume levels with relatively low power, even like 10-20W. They usually have ratings of 1W @ 92 dB/m plus which means that the sound pressure level at one meter is 92 db if driven with 1 watt of power. Each time you double the watts, you gain about 3 dB of output.
2W = 95 dB
4W = 98 dB
8W = 101 dB
16W = 104 dB
So I'd choose a horn driver with a very narrow field, like 20 degrees, which will allow it to be aimed and will give you a better result with a lesser amp.
They add a bitterant so this one simple trick doesn't work anymore. Dogs won't touch it.
I'm not sure that this is true----
source: I work on cars and literally had a squirt of antifreeze (PEAK brand universal type) in my mouth last week.
It was sweet and gross, but not any more bitter than urine
>not any more bitter than urine
And you know this how?
Your mom isn't that young anymore, champ, and sometimes when I am going down on her, she squirts in my mouth a little when she cums.
I'm not going to get into the whole argument about whether squirt is actually pee; either way I'm not turning down a free drink.
I swear. If it isn't pedophiles on PrepHole, then it's gerontophiles on PrepHole.
I accidentally got some in my mouth while changing out my radiator a couple of years ago and it made me dry-heave for like 15 minutes, I never want that shit in my mouth again.
Wait, is antifreeze ethanol or methanol these days?
Ethylene glycol.
It has always been ethylene glycol. The other two would boil within 5 minutes of running your car.
It was alcohol before that but not in living memory. In the 1920s the conversion killed drunks used to draining coolant.
t.car nerd
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glad i wasn't the only one
oh shit. that's what being on these boards too long does to you. we all saw that. kek
>i would have poisoned the dog
i'm not sure about it being misleading, anon. OP sounds like he'd call me a honky
You are going to get your ass sued. Have fun.
Your reply resembles those moronic children on the playground. "My dad will sue your dad!"
I reside in a 3rd world country. There is no justice system here. I would have poisoned the thing except I was trying to be decent, and now I have alerted my neighbor so I'm sure he would try to retaliate if he found his dog dead.
based. btw they make electronic devices for just this purpose. they're officially for training dogs not to bark while you're not home. they have a microphone on them and whenever they detect a dog bark they emit a high frequency blast to shut them up. they learn pretty quick how to be quiet. think they're pretty cheap too, and at 25' away they should work great.
Yes I was aware of those, I bought the most expensive one i could find. The dog didn't seem to care. I wasnt sure but the neighbor has sided the dogs cage with corrugated plastic panels so perhaps that is blocking the sound waves. The deterrent thing was operating on a battery so i figured i just need more power and more volume.
Which 3rd world country?
Philippines. Got financially stranded here when covid struck, havent been able to leave yet but working towards gtfo'ing.
How much do you need?
I havent recalculated the overstay fees since I first checked last year. But i also need enough in savings to land on my feet whereever we end up.
I'm aiming to save up between15-25k USD to cover all visa and passport fees for me and my family and a few months rent and expenses where we land. As well as airfare...
Also and more importantly I'm looking for some type of employment because savings disappear too quickly and a stable income is the only way to make sure we dont end up in a worse situation.
Where did you come from?
Invite other neighbors to a BBQ, tell them the meat is over there in the cage.
> Filipinos are lying pieces of passive aggressive prideful shit. They will use any and all means to frick over anyone else they can
just like indians
anyways, i absolutely understand you. i guess poisoning the dog (or the neighbor kek) could be done with some kind of rat poison. or your brother-in-law could hook you up with some hardcore pesticide etc (extremely cruel, but i suppose in your situation it's some kind of ultima ratio). the most "humane" thing would be making the dog even more aggressive, to the point where it may bite the owner and thus sorting itself out.
i hope for the very best for your family and you, and godspeed on getting out of that hellhole
>gets another dog
Damn they sound a lot like nogs
>I reside in a 3rd world country. There is no justice system here.
Sounds like the neighbour is the problem, the dog is a symptom. Whatever you do you'll still have a sociopath for a neighbour.
Don't take it out on the dog, it's not his fault he's locked in a cage all day.
Open the crate and let the dog free. Play dumb when you get asked about it.
That's probably not lega...
Oh well, in that case, it's your neighbor that's the problem, not the dog.
Poison the neighbour, release the dog. Your speaker system will only aggravate the dog.
>You are going to get your ass sued. Have fun.
Reveal to us that you are omegacuck without actually saying you are omegacuck. LOL
>advice
Let it out of the cage?
Personally I would go punch that thing in the nose, but I don't do subtlety
You're just punishing the poor animal for barking because of mistreatment by its own owner. Still i understand your predicament. I just hope you will reconsider
Yes, I agree with you. It's not fair for the animal and it is a result of the owner being a piece of shit.
He has made it very clear he will not be doing anything about it. We used to be on good terms and I said he was being very inconsiderate of me and my family which includes a baby that is not able to sleep because of this... and he said "oh well, then we can be enemies, i dont care"
Moving is not currently an option as we dont have the money to relocate at this time.
Honestly OP either let it out of it's cage and play with it or try to get the dog taken from the owner and rehomed or some shit. It sounds like a karen move but keeping the most neurotic working breed on earth locked up all day is fricking horrible. The dog doesn't deserve that kind of abuse, your family doesn't deserve the constant barking, and your shitty neighbor doesnt deserve to own such a high maintenance animal.
Fricking hate gatekeeping stuff like this but the amount of times I've seen Mals or Shephards get bought by morons who just want a tough tacticool looking dog only for them to end up in the shelter months later is infuriating. They deserve so much better than to be bought by yet another immature frickhead who "needs a protection dog" and get named some homosexual horse shit like Loki or Gunner or Glock and spend the rest of their lives wearing a moronic tactical dog harness and go insane stuck inside a house all day.
Who the frick goes into someone yard to play with a stranger's dog?
>barking because of mistreatment by its own owner
Dogs don't bark because of mistreatment. They bark because they are dogs.
A Malinois is a working dog. It should be chasing perps or doing search and rescue work, not trapped in a cage. It is absolutely barking because it has absolutely no interaction or exercise.
Contact a humane society or rescue group, tell them about the neglected dog, and maybe they will be able to convince the owner to part with it.
>Contact a humane society or rescue group
>Philippines
The dog is more likely to be eaten by people, rather than rescued by them.
record audio of the dog barking.
play it back at random intervals. The dog starts barking because it hears a dog barking. Eventually something's gotta give.
Dog bark.
Dog hear dog bark
Dog Bark more
Recording Bark more.
I actually thought of recording the dog barking and play it back over a loud speaker.
Few things about that...
1)It will annoy me and my family too much.
2) The other neighbors will gang up on me and put all the blame on me because I'm a foreigner and cant just live with the noise like I'm supposed to.
I even looked into the legal aspect and there is a civil law against this noise but it will not be enforced. The local officials dont have any logic or desire to follow the written law, and will side with anyone of their own race.
bribe an official
Sounds like you should stay in your own country!
Vitamin D...get it in the dog somehow.
Woof...Woof...W....quiet.
what does grow in your are? Are there yew trees growing? Get familiar with poisionous plants.
>200g of pic rel will put horses down
Go to eBay and find a Realistic Super Tweeter. Most other tweeters suck but the Super Tweeter is the real deal made by audio autists at Radio Shack.
>Radio Shack.
Why do you want him to get shit from a company that doesn't exist?
Because high frequency waves don't care if the tweeter emitting them were sold by a defunct company. As pointed out, they're available on ebay.
20w amp is plenty for high frequency sound
maybe even overkill
so if the tweeter is rated 150watt.. which im sure is not the RMS.. a 20watt amp would be enough still?
depends on the ohms of the signal and speaker.
A Malinois in a cage sounds like bad ownership in the first place. They are extremely high energy, very smart and need a lot of space and interaction.
>They are extremely high energy, very smart and need a lot of space and interaction.
This is correct. My familiy had a Tervueren, one of the 3 other types of Belgian Sheperds. All of them are very high energy and very social. Being left out to bark sets the dog on a course that ends badly.
just play with the fricker and wear it out when the neighbor isn't paying attention, which is clearly all the goddamn time. don't frick the poor dog over anymore than it already is come on man.
It's hyper aggressive and I have an infant daughter to care for. I dont have time to spend trying to not get bitten.
There's no chance to "get it taken away" this is not the US. There is no animal rights stuff here.
Steal the dog.
Shut the frick up. Read the whole thread. The guy is stuck in the Philippines with butthole neighbors and a corrupt local government. It’s a fricked situation and I’m confident he’s desperate. You’d be too.
Thanks for your understanding. I am indeed desperate.
I have not mentioned that I have been dealing with his barking for 1 year. And have given the neighbor an ultrasonic training collar which he never used. I tried taking it out for a walk once when my wife was 9 months pregnant and it wouldnt let her sleep. It had(has) severe behavior issues i could not spend time to correct, I had to take care of my family.
When i then later confronted him 8 months ago he suggested that he would probably be moving out so it would be resolved by his move.
Like i said, we WERE on good terms before.
Now when i went to ask him for some relief he flat out told me to frick myself.
I even offered to have the dog sent to my brother in law an hour away who has a large farm property and a place for it when he said he had no place to send it... oh guess what.. no that wasnt true...
He's keeping it.
Filipinos are lying pieces of passive aggressive prideful shit. They will use any and all means to frick over anyone else they can.
If you ever get the chance to see the video about the off duty cop here that shot a grandma and a teen in the head after he tried to detain the teen and granny tried to physically stop it... I sided with the cop when i found out the full story... he was fed up with the kid doing a loud explosive called a Boga over and over... and had a history with these c**t neighbors of his.
But that cop is in jail probably for life.
Because the c**ts outnumber the decent considerate and frustrate people here. You can read on any forum people that have noise issues here and how nothing is ever done about it.
The only thing you can do is resort to violence and then go to jail... BECAUSE GUESS WHAT... breaking civil laws and doing all kinds of horrible shit is fine but ZERO violence is tolerated here. Even if I shoved him I would go to jail for several years if there was a witness or if the cops felt like it.
>people here have less soul and no consciousness to treat animals with any empathy.
>Filipinos are lying pieces of passive aggressive prideful shit. They will use any and all means to frick over anyone else they can.
and you moved halfway across the world to start a family with one kek
Not quite.
I didnt move here. I was visiting when travel became completely restricted and the embassy closed. Full lockdowns here. You couldnt even leave your neighborhood. By the time I could leave I could not longer afford to and had lost my apartment in the US. That and I refused to get the jab so I was definitely going no where.
Yes my wife is filipina, there are exceptions to the generalization I made. I was referring specifically to the c**t percentage of the population which is a majority. If you werent aware that every country has a small % of decent and considerate people and a huge % of c**ts.... its because you're one of the c**ts.
Contribute to the topic or frick off with your assumption based opinions of my choices.
based on how mad you just got its pretty obvious you know i'm right lol
There is a known phenomenon that repeating a sound an animal makes a few milliseconds after he makes it will shut it down. Some kind of interference with the sound generating feedback circuitry of the brain. It works with people too. Read the patent I posted upthread. You don't need a lot of power just a variable delay. I'm not sure if it works if you shift it up to ultrasound but I would bet it does.
If you're originally from US just save for the plane trip back and figure out the rest while your here. Its not run well and its a huge waste of tax money but you will get covered for lots of shit especially with a kid
https://patents.google.com/patent/US3673567A/en
Maybe the dog is already deaf. But don't worry, you can also blind the fricker with powerful IR laser. Just be careful not to blind yourself.
The best option is to dognap it and take it to a park and let it go. The only other option is to either kill your neighbor or burn the whole complex down and move. Burning will release you from your lease.
All buildings here in Philippines are made out of concrete. You can not burn anything down here.. or i would have already burned down a few things here.
I appreciate all the suggestions but the original topic is building a ultrasonic speaker setup. I would like to stay on that topic if possible.
If you love animals you should not come to Philippines. There are millions of strays many covered in mange with open sores, many starving dogs, abused dogs, dogs chained up for whole life on a 2 foot chain, people here have less soul and no consciousness to treat animals with any empathy.
I understand many of you are concerned for the animal here and are using your 1st world empathy to relate to what I plan to do.
Move here for a few years and you will change. You can not maintain empathy for animals here.
Funny thing is the animals here seem to have less soul (visible in their lack of presence and personality) than the animals in the US too. I wont go into that aspect because it's hard to understand until you observe it. I'm not saying they deserve cruelty.. I'm saying I dont give a shit about this dog my neighbor has.. I am a dog lover.. i have had 3 dogs of my own that i treated like children...
...and this one here that barks all day and night.. I would chop its head off with a machete and feel nothing but relief.
try gunfire
can we just make ultrasonic dogs instead?
>Philippines
Just report to the police your neighbor and tell them he is selling drugs. Duterte will do the rest.
This, plant drugs on this c**t's property
Not your problem what they do to him
i know the feels bro. my neighbor has an autistic husky that never shuts the frick up. I always heard chocolate will frick a dog all the way up but can't confirm. what about just good ol rat poison in a hot dog?
dark chocolate specifically kills dogs
Pretty sure this is mostly a meme. I've seen multiple dogs eat chocolate of every kind, and all they do is barf it up and keep on trucking.
it's theobromine, the amount varies with the amount of actual cacao in the chocolate
you can calculate the amount and the effect on this site for a given weight
https://www.petmd.com/dog/chocolate-toxicity
for a male adult malinois it's probably like a pound of fairly dark chocolate
something like a single shitty amerifat candy bar contains very little cacao and very little theobromine
Cyanide in cheese
ITT: strangers from all over the world come together to poison, blind, and deafen a random dog.
Buut i'd look into microwave oven transformers. Let's get this dog dead.
>he has told me to go f*ck myself.
Grab a bat, set up an ambush and beat the living shit out of him.
Once he's completly fricked up tell him that if the dog fricks with you again you'll feed him to it, and that if he goes to the cops he's fricking dead.
If you can get a gun do the same thing but have the gun ready and loaded with you just in case.
Have you tried going to your local Jollibee and telling them they could get a free 40-60 lb supply of "chicken" joy?
>I am putting together a 20W DIY speaker setup to try to play ultrasonic sound to silence the dog.
impossible unless that entire entertainment system, source decoder amplifier filter and tweeter, was built to entertain dogs. Any one of those part has the typical 22kHz limit, all you'll annoy is yourself.
>impossible unless that entire entertainment system, source decoder amplifier filter and tweeter, was built to entertain dogs. Any one of those part has the typical 22kHz limit, all you'll annoy is yourself.
This guy knows.
This whole thread is full of people who have no idea about audio components or speakers.
OP you'd be better off hooking some kind of tiny piezoelectric speaker (if you can find one with ultrasonic specs) to a DC sine wave generator or something that can generate a 30kHz wave ... get away from "audio" components, because hardly anything made for music is going to work
How is any of this easier than Karening out to the proper authorities? Part of it is your fault for living in a comblock apartment, but there's probably rules and a super to call.
You are a Black person. Your neighbor bought a dog because he lives next to a Black person. That you are contemplating torturing a caged animal makes you a double Black person. I would suggest you simply offer to buy the dog and treat it right but I would prefer to see your neighbor set it on you and purify the community of your Black personishness.
throw it a beef patty filled with razorblades
guys i think op is gone haha
Dogs in minecraft are deathly allergic to chocolate, dark not milk. Thank me later.
OP is making a robot to bark back at his neibours dog XD.
Surely this is a joke, the dog will just bark at whatever its making the noise in an endless cycle. OP knows nothing about dogs
Buy the dog, hire a trainer, don't be a Black person; set an example. This, supposing you are white, of course.
you can buy an off the shelf unit from Amazon for not that much money.
i dont get it.
the dog is on a leash. meaning if there is any physical altercation there is no danger to op.
so just go over there when the chain is strectched and the dog is barking and the neighbour isnt home and fricking kick it in the teeth while screaming shut up.
also i googled(well i qwanted because google is Satan) animal welfare in phillipines and theres a bunch of organizations...
95% of charity organizations are outright scams. That number goes up to 99% in the Philippines
Just fly back to the US. When you leave tie up your neighbor with a broom handle in his ass and let his dog out.
having read most of your thoughts and situation in the shithole you're in, i unironically think killing the dog would be better for the dog. its existence is misery as it is. its misery is making you and your family miserable. it would be better to put it to peace and deal with your neighbour when he thinks it's you. any attempt to silence the dog will be met with retribution anyway. be prepared to show unapologetic dominance. make sure he knows without a doubt you'll fricking kill him in front of his family if he fricks with your family any more, and the problem will most likely just fade away.
Call the cops, you fricking dope.
>t. didn't read the thread at all
Why would you stay there? Just go back home. You will get back on your feet much better back home. Willingly exposing yourself to thirdies is masochism
Better off giving him the 'ol spicy Scooby snack instead of trying to torture it. Anytime some fricknuts moron gets a bulldog, pitbull or whatever the frick fighting dog and thinks he can walk it around my neighborhood of children and old people it mysteriously ends up eating rat poison and dying. Of course it's not very nice, but necessary.
I developed misophonia in my teens after the neighbour's dog kept barking and waking me up every night. Now every time I hear a dog bark I have to hold myself back to not beat something up. It really is a life of almost constant suffering except for when I get to put on my headphones. Do something about it fast, even if it means killing the dog one way or another, don't let your life turn into shit like I did.
I found using earplugs 24/7 works somewhat to mitigate the sound, but I agree killing the dog is the smartest soultion
>I asked him politely to do something
Big mistake. Once you confront him you lose the ability to kill it without instantly becoming the prime suspect. In situations like this you need to immediately jump to the inevitable before giving any outward signs of interest at all.
I'm your neighbor
shut your dog up then
they sell a device thst does this on amazon. i was thinking about buying one because i have Black person neighbors with pitbulls, and go figure, they are i considerate Black folk.
>Any and all advice is greatly appreciated. I have no experience on this topic.
get some dindu bees and set up the hives next to the dog.