This is the best tank in the world right now

This is the best tank in the world right now

  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous
    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >a prototype with visible test packages that has never been manufactured at scale is "the best tank in the world"
      Couldn't you have at least picked one that's actually been fielded? The type you posted exists at a single example in a warehouse somewhere, and isn't even a complete vehicle. The "armor" on the turret cheeks are just weight simulators

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        imagine seething this hard. Sepv3 and sepv4 are being fielded

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          SEPv4 hasn't been fielded yet

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            No but it’s very close. I posted a sepv3 anyway

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        That's an M1A2 SEPv3

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        you stupid bastard, the m1a2 sep v3 has been in service for 2+ years now and finished development in 2016

        SEPv4 hasn't been fielded yet

        SEPv4 is two years from entering service

        no

        just say "I have no idea what the fuck I'm talking about" next time. Its faster.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          My country is buying over 200 of those

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            more than 200.
            370. Plus training vehicles.

            rolling with namers

            I am legitimately impressed with how fucking miserable Israel's manufacturing capability is compared to its PR

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >I am legitimately impressed with how fucking miserable Israel's manufacturing capability is compared to its PR
              It's a small country, they are literally becoming friends with morocco so that the Moroccans will use their manpower to build their drones (among other benefits)

              >https://www.unav.edu/web/global-affairs/a-new-era-in-israel-morocco-relations.
              >https://www.defensenews.com/opinion/commentary/2022/08/09/expand-israel-morocco-security-cooperation-to-counter-malign-influence-in-africa/

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >Morocco
                The current Israeli government really is beyond retarded.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              how so? there's like 230 in service right now which is probably enough for the golani and givati brigades, i think since 2019 even carmeli use em.

              name one other country fielding those numbers of APCs with this level of protection

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                that's super cool anon. Let me know when you aren't using the m113 in combat roles. Like your own people have said will probably be the case until the 2050s at current production rates of the Namer.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Its not so much as the piss poor manufacturing capability, as much as its funding, Mk4s and Namers are expensive af, and the majority of the IDF budget for the forseeable future is being dumped in to the IAF, buying new heavy lift choppers, tankers and possibly new F-15AIs

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    no

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I don't know much about tanks but i will say the merkava is one sexy looking tank

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        yes
        the next iteration of it (4 barak) is entering service iin a few months

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          It’s not a very good tank

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            dude who said he doesn't know much about tanks here. I think the people who designed the merkava knew what they were doiing. Israel has always been good at tank warfare (or the Arabs that bad). I think the garden gnomes who designed it made it well fitted for their environment. or at least i think they know better than some dudes on anonymous chat forums

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Basically this. It’s good against Palestinians. It’s probably the best COIN tank in the world

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Has it ever faced anything better than t62?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                the T-62s were going against Sho't Kal, slightly modiefied centurion tanks. i don't think modern israel has been in a tank battle and they probabbly won't be soon

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                merk 1 defeated t72
                but yes no current tank in service fought another tank because the oldest shit is probably merkava 3s from the late 90s upgraded to the baz standard and even some of the reserves drive merkava 4s now.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >merk 1 defeated t72
                Fucking Shermans defeated T-72s.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                i think israeli tirans almost faced t72 in lebanon but that ended up not happening

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                last combat use of the israeli sherman was in yom kippur, so T-62s

                first use of T-72s was in 1982, by which point M50s and M51s were long gone even from reserve units, and merkavas were already being rolled out
                there are no confirmed T-72 v merkava engagements, its still argued whether it was TOWs or the merks who did it

                though with 120mm APFSDS, relatively thick armor, and thermal sights
                theres no reason to believe the merk isnt capable of facing or defeating T-72s

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Jesus that thing looks fucking stupid from that angle

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >built with US tax dollars

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      The merkava isn’t that good

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        No but it looks cool

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      You need a tank to deal with little kids throwing rocks?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      It's the best LOOKING tank, the K2 black PANTHER is the best tank overall

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >K2 black PANTHER is the best tank overall
        No one thinks this other than SK shill.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Ask Poland, Egypt, Morocco, and Saudi Arabia why they're lining up for the purchase of it in thousands.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >but consider these unimpressive countries that want to government jobs program building tanks!
            No

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Egypt currently owns 1300 Abrams and that's second only to the US, yet they're opting for more than a thousand K2 to be license produced. So are Morocco and KSA, who already own 222 and 373 Abrams respectively.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I don’t think they have sepv3 which is superior to the k2. I know Saudi Arabia built their own M1s so they’re after the job program as well

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                MBS is extremely upset about the current US leadership so he's currently planning on breaking all dependency on the US. His first step is building an army with 100% america-free weapon systems, such as adopting the J-35 as its future fighter jet and funding the Ukrainian ballistic missile projects.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >His first step is building an army with 100% america-free weapon systems
                kek. That’s a good way to become completely militarily irrelevant.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Imagine not being allowed to buy the f35

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                He certainly can as long as the current energy crisis continues.

                Imagine not being allowed to buy the f35

                KSA wasn't allowed access to it anyways.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                You can’t build a competent military without US gear.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                They don't even need a competent army as long as it is enough to defend its own.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >w…we don’t even need the best gear!

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                US hardly is the forerunner in arms industry anymore, China and Korea will replace its place.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                kek I’m loving the delusion of SK shill
                https://www.dsca.mil/press-media/major-arms-sales

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                holy shit. You don’t realize how much military gear the US exports until you see it broken down like this

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah, ask the MIC why it is decades behind in Hypersonic to China.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                But all of the relevant military tech I linked to that’s being sold by the US. Hypercopeing won’t change that

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Exactly how losing to your peer is coping when its not the other way round?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Hypersonics aren’t really relevant.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                You should have out the is after the word how. Your ESL is glaring

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                That's even worse, where did you learn this?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Please explain how the hypersonic meme missiles will do anything? And has China acrually demonstrated any real tests of it hitting a target?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >Please explain how the hypersonic meme missiles will do anything?
                You can't stop it at the moment.
                >And has China acrually demonstrated any real tests of it hitting a target?
                US gov officials have already admitted to their hypersonic program is getting behind China's.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                You can't stop a regular ballistic in its terminal phase either.
                The increased difficulty in interception is marginal.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Can anyone but the US stop any missile?
                Also the US has loads of nuclear tipped hypersonic missiles that can't be stopped.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Saudi Arabia intercepted Iranian built ballistic missiles with THAAD

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Chinese hypersonics were done in the 1950s at White Sands. They're boost-glide ballistics. The USA and friends are absolutely capable of producing those, but they're pretty pointless compared to regular ballistics.
                The hypersonics the Yanks are trying to build are scramjets that travel in the lower atmosphere.
                China has not leapfrogged anybody in terms of missile tech.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Norway as well

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Norway hasn’t made a decision.
              https://www.asianmilitaryreview.com/2022/05/south-korea-continues-to-push-k2-mbt-for-norwegian-tank-requirement/?amp

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Yes, they're totally not going to kick the krauts out of the competition who had been failing to provide proper maintenances and spare parts for the Leopard 2 for decades.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                LMAO it’s sad that you have to include situations like this as numbers of k2 exports. LMAO

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Why are you even living? Get back to /r/kaiserreich.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >South Korea replaced Russia as the 2nd world tank supplier

            Wacky.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              That’s crazy to think about. How many k2s have been delivered to foreign customers

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Uh anon only 260 k2s have been built.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Altay has nothing but prototypes but it's enough to make Qatar sign for the contract.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Exactly, right before it stepped in, Egypt was license producing T-90A. It's currently the only option out there without being riddled with political shitshows like all German made weapons

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                T90s are such sexy machines, the T90M are my favourites.

                Too bad they have to be wasted by subhuman Russians.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        it's better
        period

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          M1a2>k2>merkava

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Leclerc XLR is better

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    The warrior wasn’t very good

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Yes because it was produced in the right numbers for war. Other tanks are more items for exhibitions

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    rolling with namers

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >go into battle against namers
      >think you escaped safely
      >get home and everyone is calling you dingus the hedgehog
      how is such a weapon allowed?

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Lads. The garden gnomes know what they are doing regarding defending their sandy shithole.

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous
  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    true

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    Anonymous
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    Anonymous
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    Anonymous
  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous
    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      RIPPEN

  14. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    No shit

  15. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Water is wet

  16. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    That would be Altay, thank you for the reminder, anon.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Altay is stolen from new best Korea

  17. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Can someone explain the differences between the basic M1A2 Abrams and the SEPv1,2,3 variants? I heard that the v3 replaced the wiring with fiber optics to save weight for APS and shit.
    Is the SEPv3 the M1A3 or is the A3 still not out in production?

  18. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    When looking at the k2 wiki page it lists Korea as the only operator and Poland as a future operator. It lists Egypt and Norway as potential operators. Why is this the case? People on this board have told me k2 has way more sales than that

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Sales contracts don't mean a damn thing until they actually deliver

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Actually, Egypt may no longer be the priority in its sales in Africa. Morocco is already in talks with Rotem, the manufacturer of K2, to discuss a license production of it and there's a high chance of getting ahead of the Egypt deal.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        That’s rumor. Why would we discuss it seriously?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Rumor is a highly debatable subject?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            It shouldn't be, you retard. I suspect the morons are just trying to stir up as much interest as possible and 90% of the contracts are vaporware, as these things normally go

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >90% of the contracts are vaporware
              Care to suggest any proof on that?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >Muh proofs
                It has exactly as much proof as the "rumors". It's just how these things usually go, my proof is simply wait a few months. Will be extremely surprised if anyone besides Poland goes through with any orders

  19. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    The Challenger 2 with the kraut 120 is far better than this fuel eating mess

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      New abrams have a small Diesel engine for idling.

  20. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Inviting the delusional worst Korean shills I will link a thread showcasing recent foreign military sales. The thread heavily favors US sales with press releases to back it up

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  21. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Despite what PrepHole thinks or believe, Western is not always superior to Slavshit equivalents.

    For example, when it comes to main battle tanks, at the moment Australian M1A1 and Sing/Indon Leopard are the bottom of the barrel in the Southeast Asia region. Malaysian PT-91M Pendekar, Viet T-90S, and Thai Oplot/VT-4 are superior to monkey model Abrams without DU armor (same as what Arab cunts like the Saudis, Egypt and Iraq use which have been lost in great numbers) Leopard 2A4 with body kit.

    The Malaysian version of PT-91 are more different than Polish one and have included some pretty extensive upgrade possibly makes it among the most capable T-72 variant available. Instead on using a standard one, they following the Malaysian design by mix and match various East and West equipment like M2HB HMG, Germany tank tracks, Malaysian spectral camouflage system and Polish ERAWA ERA.

    >French SAGEM gyroscoptic SAVAN-15 Fire Control System, similar to that used on the Leclerc
    >EADS 3-axis gun stabilizer coupled with the ability to shoot GL-ATGM
    >Belgian FN Mag + M2 HMG
    >SS1C "Obra" laser warning receiver
    >PM Dezamet 84mm Grenade Launcher
    >Slovakian 2A46MS gun, 20% better accuracy than basic 2A46
    >Malaysian thermal camouflage optronic system

    and last but not least,Malaysia army has integrated network-centric operation via MEASAT 3B communication satellite that have 4x X-band transponder for military usage , so PT-91M have higher situational awareness than Australian M1A1.

    For about half the price of an Abrams those modernized PT-91M is good to at least stand toe to toe with M1A2 SEPv3/Leopard 2A7

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      That’s cool. But there’s a reason you compared those tanks with old abrams without DU armor

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        M1s sold to Iraq were easily penetrated by RPG rounds and because it does not have ERA like PT91, it was an easier kill compared to Russian type tanks.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Again. Your ignoring the sepv3 and talking about tanks without DU armor

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            stop replying to the obvious troll

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            At the moment the PT-91M is the most advanced T-72 variant in service. As I pointed out earlier, the PT-91M operated by a well trained crew, exploiting the terrain, with the right ammo, is more than capable of taking out a heavier, more protected western MBT.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >For about half the price of an Abrams those modernized PT-91M is good to at least stand toe to toe with M1A2 SEPv3/Leopard 2A7
      This isn’t true

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        PT-91M is probably one of the most advanced of the T-72/T-90/PT-91 tank family.

        1) renk ESM350 transmission + S1000 1000hp engine.

        2) SAGEM SIGMA30 Laser gyro INS (can navigate in GPS denied environment)

        3) SAGEM SAVAN 15 targeting system

        4) SAGEM Vigy 15 commander sight

        5) OBRA-3 laser warning system

        6) ERAWA-2 explosive reactive armour

        7) ZTS-Special 2A46MS upgraded 125mm gun.

        8) Diehl Type 570p tracks

        9) Lubawa SA multispectral camouflage netting.

        10) air conditioning system

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          None of that is impressive. It’s still a fatally flawed t72

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            The PT91M tank is indeed based on the T72 Tank...... but only on the body....... while all other important parts such as engines, transmissions, gunnery, weapon system technology, turret and ammunition, chains, thermal sighting technology, communication systems, fire systems, tank defense systems, electronic systems and devices, scouting systems, hydraulic systems, battlefield systems management, tank maintenance systems, fire control systems, gun stabilizer systems, optronic systems and others are the most sophisticated and up-to-date ones used by modern tank equivalent to leclerc, leopard, T-90MS.....

            other details of the data I can't mention here it's a secret in the ATM itself...... a lot of adjustments have been made to the PT91M tank........ This PT91M tank is far more specific than Poland's own PT91 Twardy..........only the body is the same... ……the other systems are on par with Leopard 2A6 belongs to Germany and T-90MS belongs to Russia...... that's why the price is very expensive....

            One x PT91M can easily destroy 4 x Leopard 2A4 tanks belonging to neighboring Indonesia.... ......the only missing technology is the GPS shell guided system technology which failed to be obtained from Russia due to pressure from the US.......if the PT91M is successfully paired with the system........ PT91M can be fired reaching up to a distance of 21km....... this ability is only owned by the Russian T-14 Armata tank for now....but what is currently available is already able to reach fire support of up to 12km...... not all modern tanks can reach this stage in this distance......and the 125mm gun on the PT91M tank can launch missiles for low-level air defense....... while the US modern Leopard 2A5 and Abram M1A3 don't have this ability..

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Autoloader

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              This PT91M's firing ability is 9 rounds per minute......faster than the Leopard 2.......and the armor penetration stage is the best and the latest equivalent to those used by Russia today...... instead of the type of shell that was produced by Iraq during Saddam Hussein's time, during the Desert Storm operation, ....the penetrating power of this new shell is equivalent to Russia's ATGM ....

              Poland itself can't afford to upgrade their PT-91 Twardy to the PT-91M owned by Malaysia because the cost is very expensive...... ..not because the Leopard 2A5 tank made in Germany is better ..... one PT-91M tank costs more than USD9 million......at this price Malaysia can buy more than 600 x pieces of second hand Leopard 2A4 made in Germany...

              it should be known that Malaysia has been offered it by many countries that have this Leopard 2A4 tank....but all of them have been rejected by Malaysia because they are not in accordance with the climate in Malaysia.........many tanks have been tested by Malaysia before that.......US Abram M1A1 tank has not reached 2000km already broken track.... ..the Leopard 2A5 tank is good but it doesn't have an autoloader and weighs more than 65 tons so it doesn't suit the jungle climate in Malaysia and is often immersed in mud which is only suitable for urban warfare....

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Keep in mind that the acquisition of this Malaysian MBT has taken a period of more than 10 years. very long.......because of the various stages and tests....and more than 10 models and builds of tanks have been successfully tested during that period....so there comes a time when the test is also carried out in one of the a country in the Middle East also to ensure the specifications can also work even though this PT-91M tank has never experienced in actual combat..... but ATM believes it because the PT-91M has gone through so many tests of its climatic suitability in various real weather fields........ then definitely not inferior to Leopard 2A4 RI.........because the US threatened to buy T-90S from Russia........then PT-91 Twardy from Poland was finally forced to be chosen by Malaysia ........but Malaysia has set a condition so that all the capabilities of the PT-91 Twardy tank are raised to the level of or more than the Russian T-90S tank.....Russia itself after completing its test in Malaysia has upgraded their PT-90S tank to T-90M as a result of the experience of passing the test in the jungles of Malaysia........ PT-91M also has a system equivalent to Shtora 2 installed belongs to Russia........it's just that the design is not the same because I'm afraid it will be pressured by the US........but all systems work and the electronics are the same as the Russian Shtora 2........only on the outside the right and left sides of the tank on the turret look smaller than the ones installed on the Russian T-90MS tank...... ..deliberately so as not to appear that it belongs to Russia.......Sthora 2 system like this does not exist on the Polish PT-91 Twardy....... This Shtora 2 system has been installed by Malaysia later.... ......but that doesn't mean the ability is less than the Russian Shtora 2

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Lmao just recently a tank of theirs broke down in their highway look it up retard.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        PT-91M is probably one of the most advanced of the T-72/T-90/PT-91 tank family.

        1) renk ESM350 transmission + S1000 1000hp engine.

        2) SAGEM SIGMA30 Laser gyro INS (can navigate in GPS denied environment)

        3) SAGEM SAVAN 15 targeting system

        4) SAGEM Vigy 15 commander sight

        5) OBRA-3 laser warning system

        6) ERAWA-2 explosive reactive armour

        7) ZTS-Special 2A46MS upgraded 125mm gun.

        8) Diehl Type 570p tracks

        9) Lubawa SA multispectral camouflage netting.

        10) air conditioning system

        oh look its the maylay shill, almost as bad as the SK fag

  22. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Abrams is based

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      But it's also one of the ugliest tanks and also knowing some poor soul is loading canon by hand like it's some medieval pirate ship further ruins the feels.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        boy what the fuck are you talking about? Every NATO mbt right now is manually loaded the only exception is the Leclercs

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >Every NATO mbt right now is manually loaded
          That's just sad

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            well generally NATO tanks don't explode violently when hit

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Because they're almost never used in combat. When they are they pop like every other tank.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >same_old_picture_of_airstriked_Leo2.jpg

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Those are supposedly yugo M79 Osa kills which is really old at this point tho quite a big boy.
                M79 was pooping SAA tanks with reactive armor from the front so who knows.
                >same_old_picture
                It's old since western made tanks are not used anywhere so it's hard to make new pics

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Unpopular opinion but ISIS was top tier force, if they got fraction of equipment that Kyiv got they would be in Vladivostok by now.
                Too bad they're bunch of crazies.

  23. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >No trophy system
    At least get the right model.

  24. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Based.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      its just a promo from GD. Means nothing. M1A2D is still in final development and looks nothing like that.

  25. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >This is the best tank in the world right now

    No its not.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >doesnt bother posting an actual opinion, knowing he'll be refuted/proven wrong anyways
      lol

  26. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    It looks like a very alert dog for some reason

  27. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    It's between Abrams and K2. But Abrams is lagging a bit with offensive capabilities. Still the old shorter 120mm and no smart ammo.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      K2 has weak side armor

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Still the old shorter 120mm and no smart ammo.
      it has programmable HEAT-MP already
      and the penetration on its most recent ammo is still classified but is estimated to be able to defeat another MBT frontally at standard combat ranges
      in any case, it has both gunner and commander thermal sights which is the standard today

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