Thank to the food shortage i'm gonna start restock on survival food but i don't know what to choose or know what the right one.I don't want to choose food that not good or mold on it when SHTF. I need suggestion what brand and type of food for in any climate any suggestion /k/?.
Out of all them I myself ready wise. Food it good, has more calories than most others and usually cheaper than mountain house.
what the frick is this post
It's the rest of the speech
Don't listen to these homosexuals.
Do it on the cheap and not in a wasteful way.
Step 1:don't be a gay and learn to cook
Step2: Buy staples - rice, beans, flour, sugar, cooking oil. Some lean meat for the freezer so you can make jerky or some canned stuff
Step3: buy mylar bags and oxygen absorbers (they sell them as kits)
Step4: split up beans rice and flour in those mylar bags in ~1lb chunks. Seal them with an iron then date them.
Cook with that stuff in the mylar bags and replace over time.
P.s. Consider a nice water filter. Msr makes good ones but they're pricey
>do it on the cheap
Some of us work 60+ hours a week, + projects + kids, so it is unironically the case that our time is more valuable than the fiat we spend on boxes of food.
Then get #10 cans from the Mormons lazy bones.
In that case, look up stuff like superpails, splurge for the ~$300 high-quality grain mill, and buy lots of #10 cans from places like Augason Farms. Also, since you have money, find a place (closet? garage?) to store all of this stuff, and buy some really nice, heavy-duty shelves.
>Step 1:don't be a gay and learn to cook
>Step2: Buy staples - rice, beans, flour, sugar, cooking oil. Some lean meat for the freezer so you can make jerky or some canned stuff
>Step3: buy mylar bags and oxygen absorbers (they sell them as kits)
>Step4: split up beans rice and flour in those mylar bags in ~1lb chunks. Seal them with an iron then date them.
>Cook with that stuff in the mylar bags and replace over time.
Or you could just buy a tub of Mountain House and keep it for 20years. Don't buy it all at once, do a tub every three weeks. You only need about 4, with supplementary select items it'll last you a year. After the first year, if the problems that forced you into that situation didn't go away, you're fricked anyway. Having more wouldn't have changed that and you sure as frick are never going to have a Life Time's worth.
>Do it on the cheap
Time is money and I ain't gots no time niguh.
There are way fewer calories in those stupid buckets than you think.
not to mention they taste fricking terrible. I've tried oatmeal, soup, and pudding from the bucket I bought a few years ago, and all three items somehow had the taste and consistency of spackle.
Lots of no-calorie artificial sweetener too, which just makes no fricking sense.
>>OP
asks question on board because too lazy to research
>don't be a gay and learn to cook
I don't think you understand human psychology as well as you need to
It's literally people saying "I want to survive the apocalypse but, not develop any skills"
Agreed. And they're gonna die. Luckily they'll have Mountain House stashes I can collect on my looting outings.
So, again, buy Mountain House.
This. I like the granola with blueberries OP. Buy a box for me
go back to plebbit, Black person.
as he said ready wise is better than mountain house personally.
i do suggest the walmart brand for indivual dehdrated items
https://www.walmart.com/ip/Vegetable-Flakes-Dehydrated-Mixed-Vegetables-Dried/320798912
this is cheap as shit, put it in better bags/mylar and throw it in soups and other shit you make in an attempt to be healthier
I tried ReadyWise. Ate the entire bucket in a week. Food was mediocre but I can see it doing the job just fine.
Why it's good to also stock spices too. Even just black pepper can really up the taste of them.
coffee grounds and cigarettes
well-versed in etiquette
go the frick back. No one but redditors ever make replies like this. You homosexuals think it's funny to reply with shitty puns and jokes and continue them ad nauseum for your internet points.
The proust diet, a man of taste
don't forget pervitin
mountain house
there is no alternative
buy it in the can to save money, but buy enough pouches for your 72h bags
Mountain house sucks ass now a days.
All the taste test don't even come close to mountain house and I've had it while camping and can confirm, it works, it's good and filling.
I bought some mountain house to try. Its tasty. Filling. Energizing. There are other brands but only one or two of comparable quality.
Ready wise aka my patriot supply tubs are good for long term situations where food is scarce but water is not. If water is scarce then you want mountain house type freeze dried stuff.
Ready Wise: dried, large meals per bag, 6-8 cups of water, 30+ minutes prep time, requires pots (dishes require cleaning, which requires water). Good for long term survival while encamped.
Mountain House: freeze dried, 1 person meals per bag, add 1 1/3rd cup boiling water, 9m prep, 0 dishes (use in bag). Good for short term survival during outages or on the move.
I have some of both.
Learn to garden, buy chickens, and don’t rely on shit tier survival food
post chickens smartass
Post your garden and chickens friend
That's cool, but it's good to get something ASAP since stuff can happen that's not necessarily collapse of society while you learn to get all that going.
This is weapon correct?
Yes, obesity kills many people each year.
Whats a matter troon? Angry this isn't another Ukraine shill thread?
canned goods are standard issue conceal carry for school kids
OP buy food from the Mormons. Seal in mylar and five gallon bucket.
https://providentliving.churchofjesuschrist.org/food-storage/home-storage-center-locations-map?lang=eng
This is objectively the correct answer. Mormons have been in the prepping business for a long time and know their shit. Look for places they shop.
Can confirm. Not only do we store food and non-perishables in warehouses, it's each family's responsibility to store food and ammunition in-house. I personally have several food banks that members of my ward and myself go to for free food, perishable, non-p, and toiletries.
t. A /k/ommando who married LDS
If I buy from there, will they send me a free bible? I've never read the whole thing.
Jesus dies in the end.
Spoilers anon.
And then comes back to life.
Bro I didn't get there yet, frick you.
Try a small sample of something before buying a whole bunch of it. I learned that the hard way. Went and bought big cans of freeze dried diced beef and diced onions that are basically inedible. $50 down the drain that could have been spent on dried beans or beef jerky. A lot of people who buy these big pre-made survival food kits are gonna be real disappointed if/when they ever actually need to use them.
They won't be disappointed when they're starving.
You got to have that gravy mix for the gravy train.
canned cheese and pilot crackers
>Basic dry goods
Grains/Flour/Hardtack
Dried Beans/lentils, get a good selection and make sure to soak for at least eight hours as some contain toxins, do not reuse the water
Freeze dried vegetables
Pasta
Potato flakes
Powdered eggs
Salt, Iodized
Herbs/Spices, variety
(Keep salt/spice use light, modern food is already overflavored to frick.)
MSG, because if it makes shit food taste good enough to eat it's useful
Honey
Multivitamins
Seal in water resistant containers with moisture absorbers and store in a cool place.
>Canned
Meat, pork/beef for max calories, remember to choose different types to keep things not boring
Fish, pick ones soaked in oil
Beans, baked/plain, pick whatever you want
Vegetables, pick one with salt
Nice to have sanity foods, soups/stews, chili, fruit, etc.
Start a garden if you can.
Water, assume 2L per person per day, 4L if physically active, adjust for age. Have at least two weeks worth if possible. Distillation is best method for purifying, but filtering plus choosing a non-polluted source will have to do.
Afterwards familiarize yourself with exactly how much of one item has how many calories. 1 cup of pinto beans has around 200-ish calories, one large potato is 280 calories. 2k calories is what's recommended but get used to eating less. Portion control will be your biggest challenge, you'd be surprised how little 2000 calories already is compared to what the modern westerner eats and if shit has really gone bad then you have to forget what a full belly feels like.
Soup is the answer to everything. The fluids/fats that people nowadays throws away? Stick it in the soup. Boiling foods brings out the most calories, do not roast or fry. If you do, do not wash away the residue on the pan, boil water in it and make a soup out of it. Wash the cans, add to soup. Boil bones for soup.
If something is about to go bad stick it in the soup and boil the hell out of it. Anything to make food last longer.
I also concur, go talk to the mormons.
Imagine typing all of this...
Imagine typing a worthless post...
Groomers got triggered. LOL
Frick I can't stand you summergays
Imagine being useless and worthless to the point you get jealous over another anons contribution
good advice, and the TL:DR version:
>Beyond that. Store what you already eat.
Now I need to find some powdered eggs...
If you are travelling on food or trying to go light, mountain house is the best. There is a decent deal if you buy a months worth. Probably all you'll ever need. Try it out. Go hiking.
In b4 muh boiling water inconvenient.
Can be prepared with non boiling water just have to wait twice as long.
Other than that, millenium food bars are meant for storage at a wide range of temps and are useful for some folks.
Beyond that. Store what you already eat. 6 months supply is my goal. Stop eating trash.
Gardening is nice in peaceful times and so are chickens. Canning and charcuterie are useful too(learning about the pink cure types, what goes in them, and why celery salt is so relevent is a trip). Not sure if thrse are really /k/ related skills, but I suppose nearly everything kinda is... but still relevent and cool.
Learning to butcher game and fillet fish can be more useful and/or learning a few of the most common local edible plants. Acorns, dandelion, plantain, pine needles everywhere where I'm at every year. Pick up a reference book relevent to your area.
any good recommendations on water filter systems?
>chlorine maker
based, I didn't know this existed. been enjoying the berkey life for years though. I cannot stand tap water.
My benis.
Before you start shopping, answer this. Will your survival depend on staying where you are, or going someplace safer? If your home is in line for wildfires there's only so much room in your truck for bringing food with you.
pinto beans from walmart 5 lbs for five dollars
white rice from walmart 5 lbs for five dollars
good multivitamin $5
50 gallons of water, treated with chlorine
some way to cook beans and rice
Your nutrition lacks fat. You die. The end.
This. You'll eat endlessly and won't know why. Humans evolved to weigh fat the highest in terms of satiety. No fat and your body will make you over eat, create fat, and consume it.
Not sure if serious or not.
Google rabbit starvation. It happens if you don't have fats in your diet.
What is the actual meta for shelf stable fat storage?
Even the more durable nuts and oils go off after about a year, dairy products are preserved by explicitly removing fat from them. Is it unironically canned spam? That has the best shelf life:fat content ratio of anything I can think of
ive eaten spam that was 6 years passed the best by date.
0 issues
10 years seems to be the top out but.....in an emergency id try it as long as the can wasnt swollen.
rotate your food so this isnt a problem
Just saying the natural 30+ year shelf life of sealed dried grains and legumes means stacking protein and carbs is much more accessible and fat is a bit of a challenge
ohhh yeah for sure canned meat is a good source
they sale canned butter but ive never even held the can or read shit about it
You can clarify butter and vacuum seal in jars. Will last 5-10 years as I understand.
>but i don't know what to choose or know what the right one.
Do not listen to anybody recommending overpriced garbage and instant-food.
Look up the mormon prepping guide. They are wacky weirdos but their doomsday prepping has a lot of thought put into it for centuries now.
You'll learn what to buy and how to store it so it stays edible for decades.
>one recession and people start survivalist larping
one? I was 22/23 in the 07/08 recession, just starting out in life. My pay was shit. My commute was 45m and gas was $5/gal IF you could find a station that had any
Now, 14 years later, everyone is armed and pissed off and inflation is soooo fricking much worse.
I don't think any of us can predict what is going to happen. We might not pull out of this one without serious happenings
Inflation has been a lot worse than this back in the 70s and 80s, and everyone is always "armed and pissed off"
Demonstrably untrue. We actually have worse inflation right now and worse income/home price differentials.
>SP500 just had its worst half in 50 years
>inflation not even a quarter of what is was back then
the ride is only beginning
what's actually driving the change, though?
2008 was the result of a mortgage securities market that literally could not have been more dangerous, and the US was the epicenter
2022 seems to just be a covid/ukraine aftershock. food shortages incoming, but America will always be able to feed itself.
An enormous amount of money was printed in 2020-now and supply shocks have been making many industries substantially less efficient than they used to be. I think there will continue to be bad inflation until it stabilizes in a few years (hopefully).
>what is driving change
anon - pay attention. The WEF is literally writing about their schemes in public. Its called the great reset. The great narrative.
ESG scores with distributed by Larry Fink. World leaders all hang out together in Davos and coordinate the politics and the business interests.
Social Emotional Learning and other communist ideas have been deployed into schools to create revolutionary red guard where we should be creating engineers.
etc
This one is going to be a big one. Worse than 2008 and all my sources are hinting the same. What will make it bad, isn't the recession, but all the Nice Independent Gentlemen Scholars in the cities that will make a bad situation, worse. Crime rates are already high, all the people that could flee cities, have done so and there are more gun owners now than ever before in our nation's history. Things are going to get wacky tacky.
Bad loans and housing collapse created the 2008 recession. Now we have high inflation, high gas, high cost of living, low food supplies, more poor people, more angry people AND our leaders are senile.
>more poor people
250,000+ more every single month. every fricking single month.
good thing trump built that wall, eh?
israelite
you havent seen shit you homosexual zoomer. youll be the first one back here asking for advice during the bread riots this fall
Fortunately, those should mostly be in other countries. Expect it to get bad; like, worse than '80s Ethiopia bad, in large chunks of Africa and the Middle East.
The US should be o.k., but between smaller harvests (insufficient fertilizers), greatly-reduced food imports, and rampant Democrat spending, food prices will be way up. Expect to spend a much larger chunk of your income on food for a few years.
That's why you buy food now. Either you have food for the collapse or you can lower your food costs over the next few years by slowly using your stock.
there will absolutely be food riots in america. i dont think you appreciate how poor the average middleclass is. the problem wont be lack of food it will be price of food. the average person has zero savings and lives paycheck to paycheck. people are going to absolutely ape out when gas hits $10 national average and groceries double from what they are right now. we literally havent even started to see the effects of inflation yet. this is the very beginning. we have at least 5 more years of this shit.
I think the rest of the world is a bigger problem, because they are much poorer than the poorest American. International food riots and disruptions may cause more of an effect on America than food prices. Like how more people are stealing from stores and the supply chain.
>there will absolutely be food riots in america.
Black person, please
we've never had a food riot in america
>there will absolutely be food riots in america
anon you know the US is the most food secure nation on the planet right? not even in the most poorest shithole will there be food riots. This whole "the world is running out of food" is gonna hit as other anons said, shitholes that rely on food imports, but the US makes so much food that it can't possibly run out.
follow up: by poorest shithole, I mean in the poorest shithole in the US, not foreign nations
People forget, or just don't know, that the US is the worlds breadbasket. It would take a lot to take that away. Times might get hard but never starvation hard. Unless some Zimbabwe shit happens.
The majority of American farmland is owned by fricking Bill Gates, the same homosexual that wants mass depopulation.
It doesn't matter if the food is available. A huge chunk of the population can't afford price increases. I saw a box of Barilla pasta and a can of Goya black beans for $2 each at the grocery store today. That shit has doubled in price over the last two years. Six months from now when its $3 dollars per item, gas is $8-10 per gallon and heating/electricity costs $500 per month per household, poor and working class Americans won't be able to make ends meet. More than enough of them are going to say frick it and start looting.
nah
the USA is literally the only place in the world where the poor are fat, although mexico is running up pretty hard
Last time there was a serious crunch the goobermint started handing out surplus food to everybody. Ever since the great depression food security has been at the head of line on readiness
>the USA is literally the only place in the world where the poor are fat
If only
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/5004431/Family-who-are-too-fat-to-work-say-22000-worth-of-benefits-is-not-enough.html
Buy spices and seasonings and some canned meat too. You are gonna get super duper bored of what you are eating if you don't.
Don't buy those overpriced prepper shit.
You can easily make your own food bins by buying from your local groceries and getting one of those plastic bins yourself. You'll save more money doing that and have something that's actually personalized to your tastes.
I stack food in mylar bags with oxygen absorbers, stored in 5 gallon buckets with gamma lids (the screw top kind with rubber gaskets). I paid the small extra amount for the zip-close bags, and got bags that fit 3 per bucket, so each bucket is 2 bags of rice and 1 bag of beans, if I remember right. I've got a smaller pouch with basic seasonings like salt and pepper on top so each bucket is a self-contained 'month of meals' for one person. I have some other buckets with flour, sugar, salt, pasta, etc. I think I'm somewhere around a year's supply now for myself and my wife, not counting the canned food and stuff in the pantry/fridge/freezer.
I want to fill in with more variety stuff, but beans/rice was the cheapest way to fill 30 buckets of food. If you have a Costco Business Center near you, it's very worth the trip. They have a bunch of stuff you don't see in normal Costcos, like 25 lb bags of salt, two entire aisles of various types of rice and beans, a lot more canned options, huge cans of powdered Tang and Lemonade, etc.
what size bag is that which fits 3 per 5 gallon bucket? also shameless can you link a source for bags and oxygen absorbers or tell me a reputable brand i dont want to get chinkd
The ones I used are from DiscountMylarBags, specifically the '10"x16"x4" 5 Mil ShieldPro Gusseted Ziplock Mylar Bags (1 Gallon)' They each fit a bit more than a gallon, and left a few inches of space in the top of the bucket to add small stuff like spices, a ligher, etc. Just make sure to label the bags on the inside as well as the bucket on the outside, it all looks the same once it's sealed up.
do you vacuum seal them too? or is the oxygen absorber enough protection for storage?
nah, I just added oxygen absorbers (there are calculators online showing how many to add for a bag size), pushed as much air out as possible, and sealed them up. After a day or so, they basically vacuum shrink themselves, so make sure they're loaded into the buckets before you leave them overnight or they'll be kind of awkward to fit them nicely.
thanks man. did you freeze your rice and flour first? i was reading somewhere to do that in case any bugs might be in it. or do the oxygen absorbers deal with that too
The lack of oxygen kills any eggs within a couple of weeks, I didn't bother freezing any of my stuff. I'm just planning to start opening one bucket a year and then replacing it so I don't have a bunch of mystery buckets that may or may not be any good if/when I need them. Also helps to actually know how to cook what you've prepped in ways that you like.
this is the way, that "survival" shit is disgusting and cost a fortune
>beans
>lentils
>rice (brown)
>Sardines in olive oil (fat sources become scarce before carbs)
>Vit D, B complex, zinc
>Protein Powder
>Fruit preserves (jams, jelly, dried, etc...)
>Honey
If you have a chest freezer (you should):
>Tons of frozen fruit
>Tons of frozen fish
>Frozen meat of your preference
This is how essentially how I eat day-to-day with the addition of eggs, milk, butter, spinach, and fresh fruit. The best food prep is when 80%+ of your normal diet is prep food.
what's the pull of lentils
every time I see them in the store they're surprisingly expensive
>protein
>fat
>carbs
>fiber
literally everything you need
>When combined with brown rice they form a complete amino acid profile
>More protein per unit weight than other legumes
>Better micronutrient profile than other (cheaper) legumes
I make one lentils and brown rice dish 4-5x per week and eat it with eggs, fish or chicken, and fresh fruit. I really like this one particular dish. They're also cheaper if you buy in bulk than in the supermarket.
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can you just keep them in their original packaging or do you do the mylar/oxygen absorber method too?
Based and lentil pilled. You should be eating this shit year round too, good for the poops
Take some lessons from history, stockfish and salt pork, hardtack and hard cheese
>salt pork
I used to take food prep seriously but in the unlikely event shit goes down where people are actually starving in America (yeah right), I'd probably try to join the nearest death squad that is somewhat professional or official.
Instead of hanging out eating my own food and not participating to cleanse the country.
Even if you join a death squad you'll still need to eat.
Death Squads are by the government. So you'll be joining private Jamal Mohammad Sanchez and eradicating the people on the right side of your pic
What's the plan for food when there's no power? Everything spoils faster without air conditioning. Even the mountain house stuff is supposed to be stored under 75F.
I might dig a cellar in the crawlspace under my house. Pests, water intrusion, and soil gasses will be a challenge though.
>What's the plan for food when there's no power? Everything spoils faster without air conditioning. Even the mountain house stuff is supposed to be stored under 75F.
This thread convinced me to put some actual thought into doing some prepping. And this specifically is a big concern for me. I live in coastal Carolina and inside of my shed gets absolutely hot as frick.
I live in Virginia and have the same problem. It's either I add enough solar and batteries to power the HVAC during the day (probably $20k) or start putting food in the ground.
SPAM, RICE, CORNED BEEF, VIENNA SAUSAGE, SPANISH SAUSAGE, DEHYDRATED Fruits n veggies n potatos, lemon juice, dried hot peppers.(use to make sauce to eat with spam or vienna sausages.) Ramen ichiban
There’s not gonna be food shortages in the US chud. Maybe in Africa or some shitholes. You’re better off learning to cook cheaply, i recent made some Hoover stew that gave me 10 full servings for under $1 a meal. Good shit. You can probably do for 50 cents a meal if you get creative.
>Maybe in Africa or some shitholes.
Russia has enough wheat exported from Ukraine to give the starving Nations some. All they have to do is to vote differently in the UN.
With Gods help this will be over in september when the wheat usually get's exported.
Im a moron, explain to me why i shouldnt just rotate canned food. Seems like m.r.e. and 20 year survival food is a waste of money.
It costs way more and you get way less calories than just storing rice and beans.
will you?
so if its not food you eat alot or even now and then youll like have it in a cupboard you dont use and wont rotate.
having 25 years of shelf life mean you can forget about it for a long fricking time
mres last 2 years 5 if you freeze they are not a good shtf bulk buy item....rotate a 24 pack of them every year and treat it as camping food for "outings" if you have to go all merc
the problem is MREs taste like dogshit
personally i think youre right and those meme survival foods are actually good for weight savings if you are packing for mobility. if you are just stationary at home then cans are better in every way. plus you get the liquid and water from cans which is a bonus.
You should have both unless you're setting up a shelter of some sort that also has canned food in case you are forced to abandon your main residence. But even if you have that shelter, in a situation where you need to get to it things might be chaotic enough that getting to it isn't straightforward and you may want some freeze-dried or some other kind of consumable that doesn't need cooking really. Depends on your vehicle's size.
>keto
High quality shelf stable fats are going to make these meals go farther and provide satiety; avocado, coconut ect.
Buy some chickens and a rooster, plenty of eggs, and occasionally have chicken. Also plant a fricking garden and learn how to can food and brew beer. None of these things is really too difficult.
Post chickens and garden with time stamp
The prepping idea of food is wacky. You don't need to replace all your food that you buy. What you need to do is supplement what you have in case of shortages. There will always be food and water otherwise we are looking at billions of deaths with WW3. So supplement your food supply. Grow your own veggies with in door hydroponics year round. Might want a little solar power in case of power shortages. Little stuff helps like extra canned goods. You don't need prepper meme freeze dried food.
Can you pour me a liquid panty dropper?
Anon there is a food shortage in Africa not in Europe or the USA.
how do you think food gets to the store homosexual
Holy frick just buy some canned goods
Staple foods if you feel like it
Anything else is a meme. "Survival food" is for moronic larpers.
/thread
I'm only posting to spite you.
An air popper is $20ish dollars and popcorn kernels stores for years easily. Decent protein content and some fat. It's filling and tasty too.
Guys I just had some mountain house delivered and it was sitting in the sun outside for about 2 hrs. Probably got over 100 in the box. Do you think it’s gonna be ok?
Anon, it's freeze dried food meant for hiking. Think about it.
It's done. Might as well throw it in the trash now.
This is a pretty good video for actual shtf long term food prep.
Everything else is just a meme and waste of money.
I also would avoid his other videos because he's quite the schizo.
>I also would avoid his other videos because he's quite the schizo.
I really enjoyed watching him slowly loose his shit. He started out with good in-depth reviews and now years later all his videos are titled something like, "IT"S THE END, FOR REAL THIS TIME GET READY".
So because of the food shortage you’re experiencing RIGHT NOW you’re going to pay MORE money for LESS food because it’s freeze dried for long term storage? You understand dry goods and canned goods last literal years on a shelf while costing less and tasting better?
just buy a bunch of ramen noodles. you could fill a whole shipping container full of them for a couple grand
>dies of salt poisoning
"t'was worth it"
>Thank to the food shortage
Both the United States and Europe are agriculturally self-sufficient.
Asia and Africa will get fricked hard by this conflict.
>All these people with bags and buckets
Are cans not the best survival thing any more? I always remember people saying "they'll last longer than you do."