Tactical advantage to NATO doctrine armies getting BTFO by prisoner Zerg rushes? Posted on May 23, 2023 by PrepHole Contributor Tactical advantage to NATO doctrine armies getting BTFO by prisoner Zerg rushes?
10 dead russians for each ukrainian.
And? Human life is not a factor in Russia.
Just mentioning that the brave sacrifice of ukrainian defense made the world that much better place
By losing Bakhmut?
That, and the 100k casualties ruskies suffered
Joe Biden isn't a source.
Damn 100k causalities? I guess Putin will just surrender now.
Bakhmut is irrelevant in the large scale of the things. As long as russians are dying in droves such sacrifice was acceptable.
You are trying too hard anon
Here, some (you)s, tell your handlers that you deserve that CS skin I hope you sell it for a few dollars later.
>false flagging vatnik trying to sound like a butthurt glowmoron
You’re laying it on too thick comrade
You war tourist are the ones who sperg out if anyone does less than worship the ghost Kiev. It’s so fucking obvious you’re either redditors or actual shills.
Probably the later, because y’all have been here for a year and still can’t figure out how to make a general. You know, like what we had for Ukraine and Syria in 2015. But you’ll continue to call me a vatnik and make a new thread every time someone tweets about the war.
>ghost of kiev
There it is everybody. Pack it up, it's over.
Every fucking single time.
I wouldn't be surprised if it's both
Eglin airforce base has the most visitors on reddit in 2013, admins took the post down after realising what it means. It's also a source of astroturfing and social media propaganda
eglin air force base is one of the exit nodes of the DOD's intranet. the us military employs a shitload of men in their 20s and 30s, which is a population group that makes up like 90% of reddit's users.
>shills and redditors!
Or maybe.... people that just don't give a shit? People don't care and the attempts to make a general failed because people much rather shitpost outside. Its not a work of shills or redditors, just autistic people from different boards. Different board culture can also effect the way things work.
moron every board has generals because a better way of discussing a topic. You can link them and go back to one’s you missed and have everything in one mega thread essentially. These fags have been here for a year and we have multiple generals up on PrepHole at any given time. If they’re not shills intentionally trying to spam the board they’re actually room temperature IQ retards.
No, lol. Every board has a general to serve as containment, not as a way for discussion. /a/ banned them because of how shit they were, but it got too out of control and decided to not enforce the ban. Generals are containments and whether the containment is good can vary. People sometimes don't give a shit and post outside of their containment, which can vary from board to board.
>You war tourist
Stop trying to "outgroup" other posters. You are a literal commie, I don't care how many years you spent on a tranime incel board before me.
>But you’ll continue to call me a vatnik
Yes because you are a vatnik. You are a vatnik who wants to destroy the people of the West.
You want me, and everyone like me broke, dead, our kids raped and brainwashed into Communism, and YOU think it's funny.
post gun with time stamp
I have no obligation to do anything for a Russian shill.
THERE IT IS!
Yeah, you're a Russian shill. What's with the fake laughing?
I’d rather be a Russian shill than a nogunz
But if gulaghomo wins you will be nogunz or put up against the wall
Shh, don't tell him that. We want him to be deluded until he gets to Chudograd and realizes he's stuck there eating the bugs.
The US government is a million more times likely to try to take my guns than Russia who’s struggling to take Eastern Ukraine.
and you, in this moment, are nogunz and likely not even American
>russia who is struggling
Yea, lets ignore their draconian gun laws that makes the most liberal state conservative.
I don’t give a shit what the gun laws in Eastern Europe are because I have no intention of living there. Aside, what are gun laws like in most NATO countries?
It literally won’t affect me. Ukraine and Russia were each others biggest trading partners before the war, even making military equipment for each other. If they blitzed Ukraine and took it all with minimal infrastructure damage then the status quo would’ve stayed the same. Now even if they take the whole country the most productive part, the eastern, is all rubble. Same for Ukraine if they retake it. The war is essentially over which side will Ukrainians Will mine lithium for and I couldn’t care less.
I’m not shilling anything, I just don’t believe the propaganda than one gorillon Russians are dying for every Ukrainian and that they’ll take Moscow by Christmas.
Even if they are disproportionately taking casualties at worst it’ll be like the Finnish Soviet war where the Soviets still won despite the Finns inflicting disproportionate casualties.
What is our current media’s influence on gun laws? Besides this is Trump-Russia collusion tier retarded. Why would Russia give a shit about gun laws in the US?
>you now remember the gungrabbers buying guns en masse during the COVID and Floyd bullshit.
About to go to bed, but remembered that the updated M&P trigger wasn’t released until end of 2021
>still hasn’t posted gun
I can only imagine it's teenagers or discord trannies shitting up the board these days. I can't imagine paid shills would do such a terrible job
moron I’m literally the only one who’s posted a gun with time stamp ITT
>moron I’m literally the only one who’s posted a gun with time stamp ITT
>airsoft guns have tilting barrels
Although tbf I don’t own an air soft gun so don’t know for sure.
Also I inb4ed this btw
>inb4 those aren’t 9mm holes!
Correct they’re 5.56 because that’s what I shot over the weekend
You posted it chamber facing down, it could be airshit. Besides I don't doubt the FSB buys American brand guns just for the purposes of shilling and datamining on PrepHole.
>FSB buys American brand guns just for the purposes of shilling and datamining on PrepHole.
They could, but it's alien anal probe tier. What could they learn or even influence on PrepHole
>Why would Russia give a shit about gun laws in the US?
To inflict more divisions? The issue about gun laws is literally the most heated issue in the U.S., why the fuck Russians wouldn't seize their opportunity to pursue their own interests?
So why do you want Russia to get bigger so they can take more people's guns?
More importantly, why do you want Russia to be more powerful and influential so that they can pass resolutions at the UN giving guidelines on gun grabbing?
We know that Russia tries to influence other nations to ban things that Russia doesn't like - after all, isn't that the purpose of the "denazification"?
Why shill for something you know is objectively shittier in every way? Why be a contrarian?
>Why shill for something you know is objectively shittier in every way?
Because uh uh reddit and trannies and nazis and stuff, or something.
lets not pretend anyone here is arguing in good faith anymore, or that there was even an argument to begin with rather than endless shit posting and one anon proving he is the only has guns in the thread
I think that was clear from the OP.
This thread was created in bad faith fro. The start.
Do you realize the more russia has influence geopolitically, the more they can influence at home, right? They can definitely influence "gun laws" if you let them have enough influence over governments and media.
>incredibly retarded orcs
>yet still capable of influencing politics in other countries
c'mon man, even at the height of the USSR they were incapable of swaying gun control laws, although at that time there was far less intercultural exchanges. From memory at least there was that russian spy working for the NRA
Retard, the russians still inherited the political system and will of the Soviet union. Regardless of their retardation, they still have things they are decent at.
Russia is the most anti gun country in Europe.
Pro tip for hasguns. The strategy of the tourist shill is to call your guns airsoft, so a handgun with the slide locked back to the rear and a loaded mag is the best way to inb4 these claims.
One time I posted a handgun with a loaded mag out and the slide forward and they accused me of it being an air soft gun and that I just bought a real mag and ammo to go with it.
>pardoned for rape
>get sent back to the front, have your legs ripped off by vengeful Ukrainians and their killer drones as I laugh hysterically watching you bleed to death while eating popcorn and drinking Johnny Walker Red and Cola
Don't believe me?
>Citing a report from Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty, the Institute for the Study of War concluded that the brigade had likely been destroyed as "part of an intentional Kremlin effort to conceal war crimes it committed in Kyiv Oblast." The report went further stating that of the 1,500 members of the brigade, losses were placed at 200-300 likely killed during fighting at Izium and Sloviansk, and that the unit "largely ceased to exist." The unit was then directly hit by the main Ukrainian thrust during the Kharkiv counteroffensive, and afterwards ceased to be mentioned in the Russian order of battle again, corroborating reports by the Ukrainians that the Brigade's remnants had suffered 90% casualties during the offensive.
Would have been better for them to be extradited after the war and face the firing squad IMO. Death in battle is too good for them.
Personally, I don't give a shit how it happens so long as their deaths are exceedingly violent and painful.
>unironically trash tier.
Shut the fuck up Jameson shill
All I'm trying to say is black label is far better than red label while still being a reasonable price
>Johnny Walker Red
unironically trash tier. So is double black for the price point
Yes it is you retard, Russia doesn't have 10 times the population as Ukraine. Russia is not the Soviet union, it can not afford casualties
This is why Russia must no longer be a factor in human life.
>muh man power
Russia had about 6,000,000 men aged 18-24 and Ukraine had about 2,000,000 at the outbreak of the war. Considering Russia has to operate a somewhat functional economy and Ukraine doesn't really have too Russia, on a strategic level might have less raw man power.
It very much is. The Russian Army has seen its offensive potential exterminated over the span of 9 months, and all it got them was the ruins of a minor town.
And that is the reason Russia is dooming it's people into further misery. For what? Just a bunch of land grabs? Under your same tyrant and it's court of clowns that just suck off the blood of your peasants? You people take pride in being a slave to be abused
>And that is the reason Russia is dooming it's people into further misery. For what? Just a bunch of land grabs? Under your same tyrant and it's court of clowns that just suck off the blood of your peasants? You people take pride in being a slave to be abused
Let me explain something to you, a situation that is unique to one specific country.
A man picks up his son from school. He asks, "How was school, son?" And his son replies, "Terrible, father. My asshole is still bleeding from when my teacher fucked me. She gave me a poor mark for the day."
Enraged, the father turns the car around in a huge circle and drives back to the school, and sits his son down in front of the principal.
The father says, "Say again what you told me."
And so the son repeats, "My asshole is bleeding from when my teacher fucked my asshole, and she gave me a bad mark for the day."
The principal nods his head in agreement. "Yes, I see the problem. Your son is racist for not specifying that his teacher is also black."
Let me end this with a question, what country is this?
Probably russia considering all the assrape
But the kid kept saying "she". Is Russia now ok with chud teachers?
Sure, there has been major wave of transitions in russia now that people dodge mobilization
Better question why do you always think about rape?
>And so the son repeats, "My asshole is bleeding from when my teacher fucked my asshole,
Is fucking kids not considered rape in there?
It's considered corrective action, obviously.
>be given a spoon with a hole drilled in the middle of it
A-at least I w-wasn't born in Fagmerica!!!
In arab countries(and also russia) its pretty normal to consider rape as a corrective punishment or guilty pleasure
Russia is the only country where rape is seen as a normal occurrence
Sounds like russia.
What's wrong with you vatniks and those constant ass fucking jokes?
Russia pays for people's transition surgeries and medications.
Too bad Russia had 11 people.
>Too bad Russia had 11 people.
Past tense is right. Now they're down to 1.
>destroyed an army
surely they'll be in Kiev any day now then
So Ukraine's army is destroyed?
I really wish we could get some semi-accurate information on what is and has gone on there.
All we know is Russia is stalled and Ukraine, while getting incrementally more advanced Western gear, is also depleting the munitions reserves that are propping it up.
Ukraine needs to build about 5k cruise missiles that can strike everywhere important for Russia's war effort at the same time.
I do like how Kim Dotcom is trying his absolute best to stay relevant and his only way of doing that is to do these kind of hot takes. I still not sure who out of the 'e-famous vatniks' is the most obnoxious. Kim's comes across as shitposting. Armchair Warlord has left twitter so many times his anticts don't matter. Spriter and JihadJulian are concern trolls. That leaves Antony Karlin and a few others who I cannot remember right now.
Karlin hilariously gave up on Russia and has cast his lot back with globohomo
He did? Where? I swear he had a break down after the Kherson goodwill gesture and started posting 40k Khorne shit. So I dunno what happened after that.
He's Girkinposting really, or he was before he decided to post less about Ukraine and focus on AI/transhumanism etc, but overall he's way more realistic than he was.
In particular his recent analysis of the Bakhmut "victory" and co:
>The results undershot even my Z-"pessimistic" assessments from half a year ago. I was expecting not only Bakhmut, but Donetsk outskirts to be cleared, and for the frontline to shift to someplace like New York several months earlier. Today very likely represents a local maximum in terms of Russia's advances in this war.
>it seems almost all the relevant trends are going in Ukraine's favor.
>failure to implement a war economy does eventually result in a Ukrainian materiel and full spectrum technological advantage and then Russia stands a good chance of losing everything. Maybe UAF even occupies Bilhorod to force reparations in the event the previous provokes some kind of major political collapse.
This guy was on the "Kiev in 3 days" train back in february.
Remember how dotcom bragged about how he had Hunter Biden laptop decrypted and how any day now he is going to start publishing truly mindblowing revelations that will totally change the perception of the war?
Becasue i sure as fuck remember. It was over a year ago.
Fatman is a fucking clown.
armchair is back on twitter luckily
I'm genuinely curious enough about these people that I want to discuss them further. What are their motives? Are they compensated in any way, or simply ideologically motivated (both of which are possible and not mutually exclusive)? Are they decentralised voices, or clandestinely organised? And if the not-so-unthinkable happens and Russia fails, or even collapses, how will they fare from that point forward?
Usually it's people who hate America or the quote unquote liberal order. The US went hard after Kim.com for copyright law so he's blinded by his hate for the west and his love for illegal Russian torrents.
This is what it boils down to in nearly all cases.
They hate America (or the Western-led system in general), which means they believe the world is ruled by the bad guys. They can only cope by telling themselves that some great hero is out there fighting against the bad guys.
They *need* to believe that Russia is the good guy and that Russia is winning. It's the only way they can make it through the day.
holy cope batman
He's right - die out, vatnig.
But at what point does the dissonance become too strong to handle? Given that we have tons of evidence of Russians committing atrocities that make My Lai look like Tuesday morning, when do they start realising that they can't rely on them to be the moral high-ground?
The assumption is that they're necessary evils in the short-term, and that the benevolent power will do what's right when it's able.
Easy. Ignore and conpartmentalize. Russian war crimes? What about X incident? What about America in Vietnam? In fact, the whole world system is subjugating us Russians and Chinks! You are the bad guys and everything we do is justified to cast off your big American boot!
There are so many atrocities in history by all major actors you can always find a counter atrocity to level the argument and forget about it.
The dissonance will never be too hard to handle because they find themselves in an inferior position or standing in life, whether or not that's true, and they will always be victimized. Ironically, they use Russia as a proxy between themselves and the world which they believe slighted them.
they're narcissists in a clinical sense
Kim hates America because the DOJ went after him for Megaupload. That's literally it.
If this had actually happened the vatniks would be gloating over countless pictures of destroyed leopards and bradleys.
>muh US spends trillions per year
Ukraine is getting an incredibly small percentage of that, not sure what his point is
This is his point. He's just another disingenuous anti-American, like Noam Chomsky.
This is pretty true. I mean the US flipped shit when nukes were in Cuba but acted like USSR should just deal with their entire country being ringed by US nuclear missiles.
>Cuban Missile Crisis
>US: "Well damn, Bay of Pigs failed, I guess Cuba is commie now."
>USSR: "Hahah, we shall put nukes on the island."
>USA: "Okay, we'll blockade the island."
>USSR: "NO YOU CANNOT DO THAT, WE HAVE A RIGHT TO PUT NUKES THERE!"
>USA: "Not if we blockade it."
>Missiles in Turkey:
>USSR: "Hahaha! We shall spread communism everywhere!"
>Turkey: "Hey, US, can you put nukes here so the Soviets won't invade us?"
>USSR: "NO YOU CANNOT DO THAT! WE WILL BOMB YOU!"
>USA: "Do it gay."
You got your timeline fucked. Castro wanted nukes in Cuba, the USSR wasn't willing to make the move because they figured it would open the door to the US playing tit of tat and putting nukes in Turkey. Then the US puts nukes in Turkey and bay of pigs went tits up. Missile crisis happens and both parties remove nukes.
We’ve been autistic about euros in the new world for like 200 years
Even if the US had invaded Cuba and put nukes in Ukraine, it would be justified under the following principle:
When anti-communists do it against communists it's good, when communists do it against others it's bad.
Apparently Chomsky rode on Epstein's jet. Really incites one to contemplate
Is that retarded word salad in any way linked to Chomsky? It says "advert" right on top, that means somebody simply bought a space in paper to print whatever
>what is reading comprehension
I'm saying this is exactly the same kind of "US is actually the aggressor" bullshit that old Noam has been peddling for years. Russia is the aggressor, has always been the aggressor, and will continue to be the aggressor. NATO is the "please prevent Russia from invading us" club and Ukraine wanted in. Oh no! We can't have that! Russia must invade to "defend itself". And the US most certainly isn't allowed to get involved, oh no no, that'd be warmongering.
the term you are looking for is paid (and also blackmailed) shill
He is currently fighting extradition to the US and will end up perma-Assanged if he loses - I don't think its exactly disingenuous
He's not talking about Ukraine. He starts off by saying Ukraine was trained by NATO for 9 years and got beaten and then he links that to how USA got kicked out of Afghanistan... forgetting that the USA agreed to leave at that point and the fact the ANA collapsed like it did was not really their problem at that point. It's tantamount to watching a guy beat the shit out of somebody and as he's half way down the street jump out of a bush and go
>YEAH! YOU BETTER RUN!
Or in the case of Afghanistan, a cave instead of a bush.
This reminds me of when the goat fucker dirt farmers in Afghanistan kicked the Soviet union out of their land and their entire country toppled shortly after. Russians base their entire economy around war and can't even fight.
no one cares
stop shilling your twitter
Kim Dotcom is such a fat fucking piece of shit who's just mad because nobody is using MegaUpload anymore and because the gubment raided his house
And those NATO trained useless soldiers ruined Putin's total invasion aka three days operation to take Kiev...
Kim dotcom is just mad at america after the raid in his house anon. And im mad too because all my pictures were on megaupload and those FBI glowmorons didn't let me to save them.
>they’re winning so slowly we’re the real winners!
Who's in Belgorod right now btw
>destroyed an army
Ukrainians didn't even get substantial shit until 2015/16. The fact that they lost less soldiers than the Russian did does mean they got destroyed. Because by that logic, russia would have exploited the weakness of a destroyed army by capturing more territory outside of the city. Because a "destroyed" army cannot defend anything.
Did he miss the fact that americans barely lost any soldiers there and had operational success? Did he forget that the doha agreement had to have the taliban renounce their affiliation with al-Qaeda? the taliban didn't even kick anybody out.
>the taliban didn't even kick anybody out
I mean, they kicked Afghanis out... but not the USA. They left as per the agreement. What, you wanted USA to send shit in again after they spent 20 years trying to make sure the Afghani government was stable? Not their fault the entire region is just fucked. There is a reason the Bongs gave it independence.
Don't cope too hard. We lost that one.
>guy and his mate starts shit
>big guy and his friend comes and kicks that guys shit in
>guy getting his shit kicked in is abandoned
>20 years pass
>guy and his friend go 'well, time to go home now'
>guys who abandoned the other guy come out and go
>YEAH WE KICKED YOU OUT
Aside from the ANA, they didn't have any substantial battle with the U.S.. the U.S. also stopped majority of its ground operations against the taliban in 2014 and by that point its just air support. The doha agreement had the U.S. agreeing to stop sending air support to the ANA and leave after the taliban commit to their anti terrorist commitments.
>Did he miss the fact that americans barely lost any soldiers there
This tbqh. A friend from Scotland was under the impression that the US got wrecked in Afghanistan as hard as the soviets did. The general impression of the war on terror is strangely misinformed.
>Ukrainians didn't even get substantial shit until 2015/16.
>Only 6 years before hand
>6 years is enough to transform an army
It apparently is enough to make it more competent than Russia's
Well, they were determined for reforms. The money does not make the difference, the workings of a fundamental institution does.
>Did he miss the fact that americans barely lost any soldiers there and had operational success? Did he forget that the doha agreement had to have the taliban renounce their affiliation with al-Qaeda?
None of that matters. Our proxy was kicked out immediately. We didn't get run out but we lost. No need to split hairs to save face.
>we won the battles in Vietnam we just lost politically.
The political outcome is the only thing that matters in war.
>None of that matters. Our proxy was kicked out immediately. We didn't get run out but we lost. No need to split hairs to save face.
Not our problem since the agreement made it their problem.
>The political outcome is the only thing that matters in war.
But the cost of it matters more than the dignity. Losing less than 3,000 is pretty good for the span of 20 yeats.
>b-but muh 2 trillion
Anerica spends an annual of 1.5 trillion per year on healthcare alone.
Kim dot com hates amerimutts with passion, they raided his mansion
>US fails at something
>Russia/USSR fails the same thing but many magnitudes worse
>vatniks will use the US fail as an “own”
They really think that people won’t point out they failed much worse at the exact same thing don’t they.
Prisoners with shovels> nato trained hohols , well yeah seems about it :^)
>Western analysts: "in the close urban fighting of Bakhmut, it's small arms and shovels due to shell shortages"
>be retarded journalist, probably an intern
>read the latest ISW report or whatever
>"hurr durr they're using shovels because they have no ammo for their rifles"
>write for NBC news on the internet dot com
>destroyed an army
Didn’t the Russians suffer like 95% of the total casualties there?
No one has any reliable casualty counts but you can continue just believing whatever feels good for you. Contemplate how stupid you are if you actually think that Wagner is 20x larger than the AFU forces stationed in the area. It's a small group that never had more than 30k members, but now pro-NATO people are trying to claim it is by far the largest corporation in the RF. Lmao.
You honestly think I just meant Wagner?
Learn to read
Anon, they literally consistently recruit people. I doubt their official numbers are anything true, especially when they recruit prisoners or random mobiks into their ranks. Do not forget the fact that they are supported by the regular russian army.
>never had more than 30k members
LMAO. They recruited tens of thousands more cannonfodder over the course of the battle because they kept losing 'em too fast.
Fact is Wagner and the Russian Army kept throwing ill-supported frontal humann wave attacks into the teeth of dug-in defenses manned by better-trained ukrainian soldiers, and then kept pushing their untis forward until tehy were destroyed wholesale while the Ukrainians were regularily rotating their units to give them downtime and preserve experience. If you wanna claim the Russians DIDN'T suffer massively lopsided mcasualties doing that, you better find some extraordinary evidnece for your extraordinary claims.
Why would mods sticky that?
they didn't, the fag that got butthurt over the Ukies response and made that sad "meme" added that to hide his own butthurt
Not everyone visits 4chan, retard
Tourist confirmed anyway. Good work.
Pray tell which side has claimed to have destroyed every plane and artillery piece the opposing side owns 3 times over? Clearly if a country owns 100 planes its entirely possible and plausible to have blown up 300.
Given the levels of delusion you guys are on, I wouldn’t be shocked that when Russia is forced out that half of you /chug/gers commit an hero and the other will go full Qanon schizo tier
>full Qanon schizo tier
You say that as if they arent already on the same tier.
It's more plausible that Russia was not wildly overestimated by every intelligence agency in the world than something about secret ballots/warrants/whatever.
And the leaks showed that the russians are suffering, by american estimates, more than the Ukrainians. And the U.S. loves to keep things at a conservative number, so the numbers could be higher.
The pentagon leaks directly stated that the numbers were probably unreliable, lol. They also demonstrated a shocking lack of knowledge for any statistics relating to the AFU at all. They seemed to know how many guys the RuAF had on every sector of the front but could only wildly guess that the AFU had 10-20k here and there. In other words, those weren't American estimates at all because they have none, they were just regurgitated claims from Kiev.
Why can't you fucks spell hohol. I don't understand why.
Different alphabet than they're used to.
Believe what you want. You will be feeling silly when the real numbers are revealed
Wounded and killed? Yea. Killed overall? The most conservative estimation is 40k.
the only thing kim dotcom can destroy is a buffet.
Every source said that about 100k are either killed or wounded. Stop trying to make this into a false dilemma.
Putin himself admitted 1000k dead russians in bakhmut, dont cope too hard
That's one vote for a clear Putin victory by... a Mr. Putin. Ok we'll put that one over to the side for now.
You want one that is a full schizo tier site that may or may not be paid by the russian/chinese governments?
Uh huh and we should just take russias word on it then? Fact is you can bitch cry and moan all you want about the nato boogieman and their "made up" numbers but at the end of the day the side that lies the most is russia.
>Oh by I would love to see the source on that
Nah, you must prove that Putin did not admit that
>Am not saying I trust russia either but no western source is going to be accurate considering where its coming from
The problem is literally EVERYONE that isnt russia is the "west" according to these absolute fucking schizos.
Why the fuck would you trust Paraguay sources or Niue sources over the guys who actually have AWACAS and satellite data and shit?
>am not saying I trust russia
Majority of those "alternative" sources you want place emphasis on their trust on the russian government for the sake of contrarianism. You can have multiple sources that say the same thing from the west. The main difference is that western sources are backed by multiple interests. Pro RU sources not so much.
Yeah, the same people that said Saddam had weapons of mass destruction and Iraq soldiers were killing Kuwaiti babes in hospitals. Oh and Assad using chemical weapons.
But they’re telling the truth this time guys!
But Saddam did have WMDs. They found them in 2009
Don't tell him, he'll shit himself, it's one of his core beliefs, a directive he was given when he began shilling, that may not be challenged under any circumstances.
>No they didn't
>And I bet X was Y as well?
>Sure, the people who did A can definitely say B
>Those weren't WMDs
>According to your western media?
People always memory holed the fact that chemical weapons are WMDs and saddam had a shitton of them scattered across the country.
I don't blame them. For literal years MSM was going on and on about how Bush lied and there was no WMDs. Then a few years later they found them and then they shut up about it.
The original reason was so twisted that it just became "saddam had No WMDs". Even though it should have been "saddam had no ACTIVE WMD programs" which is up to debate. The reason that the invasion started was the fears of terrorists getting chemical weapons and Saddam supplying them with it. Saddam then became ambiguous about his usage and developments of WMDs in order to appear strong and bush took that as a reason to invade. Saddam dropped the act at the last moment but it was too late. It all started with saddam's retardation and pussyfooting the UN.
Ok now you are just being disingenuous.
This one was published in 2019. No chemical, nuclear, or biological weapons were found of any significance
Anon, U.S. soldiers were injured by the chemical weapons that were laying around and the U.S. government put a gag order on everybody until they left iraq and it was declassified. Iraq did have chemical weapons.
not to the extent that was envisioned by the administration, and not the WMDs they were looking for in the first place
>After the war, officials could find no caches of chemical weapons munitions and only a handful of pre-1991 chemical munitions. There was no credible evidence that Iraq resumed its chemical weapons program after 1991.
Anon, that is talking about the program, not the supplies itself. Iraq didn't have an active program, but they still had stockpiles that they still use. The reason the U.S. government put a gag order on soldiers that got injured from it was due to it not being the one they were looking for and to prevent insurgents from trying to use it(which isis reportedly did after finding stockpiles)
oh right yeah. Thought the post chain was about nuclear weapons
No, we are talking about Iraq did having WMDs, but they just have chemical ones.
yeah my bad. They did have chemical weapons
Why don’t you update the Wikipedia page then?
>they found them in 2009
>no they didn't, here's an article from 2004 and a fat man emoji
>a fat man emoji
Russian shills will often post random memes alongside their shillposts to show that they're hip internet website users. They're called "signifiers".
Shillfarms even have folders of images with old UNIX timestamps so that they can pretend to be "oldfags".
zero effort bait is zero effort
>saddam had weapons of mass destruction
Yea, I am sure those chemical weapons being found on occasion are not WMDs.
>saddam had weapons of mass destruction
Why do you morons keep on spreading this easily debunked bullshit? You gays always think WMDs are nukes or some shit even though they can be shit like nerve gas. Yes, saddam did have WMDs, you buffoons.
You mean America, you concern trolling gay.
If they want that, then they would place GREAT emphasis on the threat on russia and not downplay anything that the russians do. The MIC wants a boogieman, not a weaker opponent.
>Majority of those "alternative" sources you want place emphasis on their trust on the russian government for the sake of contrarianism.
Absolutely nailed it.
People STILL cant understand that much of the problems we are dealing with right now is the absolute fucking boner the right has with lowering taxes for the rich every time they possibly can instead of doing literally anything else.
>zelensky wants Ukraine to become a fortified ethnostate
Did you even read the source you post? You morons literally read headlines without reading up on the actual source. You're the most gullible gay I've ever seen. So much for being a "independent thinker" huh?
>*gives the $75bn to 'poor people'*
>*stores know everybody has been given a chunk of $75bn*
>*ups the price of EVERYTHING because they know they can charge more because people can pay it*
You guys are about to start arguing economics with high schoolers. Don't waste your time.
Anon, what the fuck would military equipment do to the poor? Those dollars are fixed value items, not literal cash. If you want to fix the poor, then tell your govenors to get up his ass and deal witht he problem.
>posting literal who twitter accounts to validate your point
You're no different than the woke retards you're against. You gays also use regime so lightly that its becoming a white sound.
this, you should mock them but don't try to actually debate them
>They have to pay for them you fat gay, I dont care about ukraine I care about Americans that are poor and starving
Pay for what? Those equipment are already paid for. Hence it having a fixed value. You do not understand what you're talking about. Please understand the difference between assets and literal cash.
We had the same idea because we both saw your post and both concluded it was shit deserving of reprehension. Die out, twittard-tier trailer trash ztard.
uncoordinated posts responding to the same thing are likely to be similar, do you not know what "organic" means?
He has the intelligence of a subhuman, his posts so far have shown that, I suppose it's only natural he would not grasp the meaning of organic.
Go back to twitter & Die out there.
Whites are already doing a great job dying out thanks to the millions of Hispanics streaming across the border while Biden sends yet another blank check to a transvestite comedian
The US cares more about defending Ukraine’s border than their border with Mexico lmao
Those are the kind of post when russia is getting buttfucked. What russia didn't do this time?
See this is what people organically think of you (you're a gay and brown)
>The United States Government Has Officially Declared It Will Give Billions Of Dollars To An Internationally Recognized Corrupt Organization That Kills Millions Of Children Every Year
The question is... Is it Planned Parenthood? Or The Government Of The Ukraine?
The answer is... Both.
>America is using tax money to fund TND and TZD
eggs are like $1.50 a dozen here dude
You bumbling retard, those equipment are already paid for. They got paid for 5-30 years ago. They have a fixed value for a reason. It also cost more to maintain those equipment than to give them away. If you want to help the fucking poor, vote for a governor that can actually do his job. The poor are in states with shitty governors that do not do anything with their money. Then complain to the federal government on why they are not giving them block grants. Things like infrastructure and poors are states problems, not the federal governments.
still waiting on this gay to produce literally ANY of the information on Seth Rich he swore up and down he had.
>Commit fraud over the internet against US companies
>Get extradited there for your crimes
>Oh the humanity, why would the globohomo garden gnomes do this?
>Please, won’t someone think of the record companies?
I didn’t know Jitterbugs could even get on 4chinz
Unironically nuke Moscow AND Hollywood. Total Record Company Death.
well then eat shit you cali bitch lmao try living within driving distance of a farm for once in your life
>Not all of what they are giving them is old and even whats not old they ask for more when the send it to ukraine
What they are giving them is old and already produced shit. They are not categorized by their cash, but by their fixed value. Each assets have a fixed value to them and the cost to produce them can also create more jobs.
>b-but they spend money
Investments are a thing and people spend money to gain more money. Please for the love of christ take economics. This is literally highschool shit.
>MIC Corporate welfare is good
I wonder who could be behind this post
A job is a job regardless of its type. A farmer spends money to make more money. A programmer spends money to make more money. A small business owner spends money to make more money. Its literally called an investment and every business in the goddamn world does this. You spend money to gain money and eventually you make all of it back in a short/long while. This is literally basic economics.
Boomer-san, eggs are 2 bucks a dozen again.
You guys actually think this fucking retard cares about egg prices? He couldn't give less a shit if they were a dollar a dozen or a dozen dollars for one, he's just repeating 2 month old talking points like a dumbass to justify opinions on this war he already internalized when he heard them on shitter
>wahhhhh my eggs cost 5 dollers :~~*~~* why would ukraine do this? ukraine is the heckin' reason the chickens aren't shitting out enough eggs
>They keep giving them grants and more money every day to make more weapons
Thanks for telling us how little you know; Die out.
>im being made fun of for having a retarded position, bring up the trannies and immigrants
kek you really pissed off the 3rd world Russia simps
Just another twatter /pol gay, nothing to see here.
Why are you pretending biden isn't senile?
>Post hand with timestamp
Post guns with timestamp, you wont do it because youre a brown thirdie with no guns
>So glowie shilling is not?
Buying more of that equipment and creating jobs. Its not waisting tax payers money because those equipments are being used what they are used for: which is war. It cost more to maintain thise equipment than to send them off. It also an investment to gain data to improve on those equipment. You have little understanding in how investments work
Bill Whitaker: So does that affect our readiness?
Shay Assad: There's no doubt about it. You just can only buy so much, 'cause you only have so much money. And that's why I say, is it really any different than not giving a Marine enough bullets to put in his clip? It's the same thing.
Assad points to the Patriot weapons system, a pillar of air defenses for the U.S., NATO, Ukraine and Taiwan. In 2015, Assad ordered a review and Army negotiators discovered Lockheed Martin and its subcontractor, Boeing, were grossly overcharging the Pentagon and U.S. allies by hundreds of millions of dollars for the Patriot's PAC-3 missiles.
Shay Assad: And over a seven-year period these companies just keep rakin' it in.
Bill Whitaker: What level of profit are we talking about?
Shay Assad: Well-- if the average profitability that was negotiated in a firm fixed price contract was typically between 12% and 15%, so a company could make--
Bill Whitaker: --that's a good profit.
Shay Assad: Sure.
But Shay Assad told us Pentagon analysts found total profits approached 40%.
Shay Assad: Based on what they actually made, we would've received an entire year's worth of missiles for free.
>an entire year's worth of missiles for free.
Imagine home much more efficiently war could be waged if defence contractors weren't screwing us
For what purpose?
I like how he didn't even try to hide it, all the posts are at least a minute apart, the autist couldn't even get a functional proxy going.
You're unironically a schizo. Meds now
Proxys are range banned in general because they're abused so much. Unless I'm posting with PrepHole pass (lol) a proxy is useless
moron, why did you reply to my post again? What is the purpose for this blatant samegayry?
Your posting style makes it obvious.
all me btw
lmao, neet confirmed. Try not to wake your mom with your impotent seething
12am is considered unusually late by you? What? Are you a toddler?
Not him but it's called having a job and a family
>you're up at 12 so you dont have a job
shit tier ragebait lmfao try harder next time
that's good and all but where's your gun?
>being up at 12 am means you don't have a job
When does school start back up? Is it too late to sign up for an outdoor camp?
Is this your response to getting called a high schooler when you cried about the price of eggs? do you need a hug? A warm blanket, perhaps?
Even in their personal insults; the Russian shill cannot help but to to be insincere. It is simply second nature to them I suppose.
Thirdies absolutely seething over seeing American timezones
You sure it has nothing to do with bird flu wiping out 50 million chickens last year?
Ladies and gentlemen, behold, the spergout to end all spergouts, the autistic tantrum to put all other autistic tantrums to shame, the wailing that ended all wails.
He was so upset by me making fun of him that he decided to reply not once, not twice, not thrice, but four times.
Hey, you, the vatmoron reading this - Die out.
The fact is he is just incredibly mad and that's great and makes my day better.
You know they're seething when they pull out the chud, I expect nafo compilations any minute now
>You cant say that anymore chud india gave aid to ukraine
there are more than just indian russian simps
They just fucking conjure it out of thin air, my guy. Taxes are a spook.
>bro it's 5.50 where I live
Move out of Alaska or stop buying """health""" brand eggs that charge you an extra four bucks for meaningless buzzwords you brainless moron
Anon, governments get taxes and redistribute it to the public as an investment. Its up to those public/private sectors in what they want to do with that money. The governments job is to regulate and to manage the development in the country. There is no dilemma regarding the amount of funds that the public gets because the U.S. spends TRILLIONs on infrastructure and healthcare. The military/defense budget only makes up 3% of that budget.
This is the most ubiquitous tool of the Russian shills playbook, their signature move, one could say. "Oh so this is okay but this isn't?"
Inorganic forced responses because leaving an insult towards your dearly beloved Kim Dot Morbidly-Obese unanswered would've stung too much. Die out.
that guy is an american trainer for the ukies. why wont you just post guns with timestamp?
What is "Inspect Element"?
Are you schizophrenic enough to believe someone would even think of doing that in your Congolese flat tax debate? Take a break.
what? it takes 5 seconds. You just need to highlight the message, open inspect element and click delete on the (You). Of course anyone accused of spam replying like an autistic samegay would do it.
Die out, you ingenuine retard.
>Sorry that uhhhh I'm a stupid gay who thinks aid to other nations is determining the price of my eggs
Its like $2 where i live. Move out of your state.
>bitch bloody banchod basterd paki INDIA has given aids to ukraine, stop accusing me of being INDIAN
Haha ok, Pajeet. You remember to do a poo in the loo, okay.
You can just feel how angry the Russian Shill was when he typed this out. You can just hear his keyboard clacking, him punching in the letters. You can feel his blood pressure rising as he searches his "Gay Ukrainians" folder to find just the right one to post in response to my message. Lol.
Hey, vatmoron, Die out.
I'm the only person in this thread and I am just responding to myself from 55 different devices.
What the fuck is even wrong with Russia?
They take the bodies of the few comrades they actually manage to recover and the nthey bury them in a fucking mass grave.
At least have the common decency to give them a separate burial.
>has an economic understanding of a teenager
>post pics of trannies/gays
>is retarded and spamming copes about UA losses despite the Russians suffering even worse losses
ziggers unironically believe that if you don't honor your dead by burying them then you they never died. For every dead Ukie grave there's pics of entire muddy fields of dead Russians
don't worry dude, trump will definitely send them all back this time
>5.50$ for a dozen eggs
Are you posting from Guam?
he was a whimsical gay who would change his mind every time someone new got in his ear
Anus to eyebrow status?
>Sorry that I live in cali
Don't apologize. Knowledge of your suffering is enough for me.
>who don’t feel so great about kissing away billions
Whose billions? It certainly isn't theirs, given they are primarily unemployed e-boicons who live in their mother's home & subhuamn trailer trash barely deserving of life.
>n-n-no please look at this noncomital statement the grand nabob of public defecation made, I can't take being called a streetshitter one more time, I'll cry, please memoryhole all the Pajeets shilling for Russia
Lmfao look at the fucking state of you, you're actually fucking pathetic.
>morning in Bombay
>sudden influx of ztards
>it's around 3.12 now
I reiterate, do you live on Guam? Because Guam, Hawaii, and Alaska are the only places in the US I can see you paying that much more for eggs
There are no NATO doctrine armies fighting in ukraine. Its a pretty funny cope pretending that Ukraine has a NATO standard force
What is it about these Russian memes that feels so definitively artificial? They all look so ridiculous. Trashy. Trashy is the right word. Who makes these?
I do. Do you have a problem with my art?
It's because they're astroturfed by Russians & third worlders, so they feel forced and generally emanate an artificial feeling.
That's why, for example , the "Us Americans can't afford eggs because of aid to ukraine" complaint feels so forced - It's not Americans making it.
Is this the same "The f35 is a waste of money" CBS? Die out.
>I think you should take a break anon. You’re starting to sound delusional.
didnt you reply to him like 4 times because he made fun of you for complaining about eggs
Are you sure this is the hill you want to die on, you pathetic sperg?
Finally something funny itt.
And I'll gladly do it again, gay!
It's the type of thing you'd see 50 year-old impoverished MIGA boomers reposting.
I am a 50 year-old impoverished MIGA boomer.
>I said I live in cali
>calitards are the ones crying that we need to stop arming Ukraine because the gubmint needs to pay for their eggs
In the morning I'm going to write my representatives and urge them to approve more aid for Ukraine, no hard feelings.
Good morning sirs
>Sorry that I live in cali
I'm with the other guy on this one, please die out
Enjoy food while you can Caliqueer, God willing you'll be fighting Tyquandrellius for a spot in line at the soup kitchen to avoid starvation by the end of the year.
Why do they make anti-Semitic memes? Don't they know it's illegal in Russia?
So is mine, but you don't see me paying $5 for eggs lmao
Then leave you dumbfuck. You're really calling everyone else good goy while living in the most garden gnomeed state in the US aside from New York.
We claim the frogGOD, yes. You, on the other hand, should die out.
NATO is a fucking joke and should be dissolved
make an ironclad alliance with a few very close allies like the 5 eyes + japan or something
europoorians that don't contribute and flipflop between china/russia and the west don't belong
slavic shitholes going to war with each other is not our problem either. if fullblown war breaks out in europe we can swoop in and fuck up russia ourselves if it really comes to that but proxy wars are a waste of money when you spend on corrupt subhuman slavs that can't fight worth a shit
It can be dissolved after russia gets dissolved.
It was dissolving. Then Putin decided he wanted banan
>MY whole state is flooded with Hispanics
Is that why you stay? Big fan of the latina hunnies?
>How can I win
You don't. You lose, gay. Kinda like your Russian buddies, in that way.
Come on, do it already. Move it to 4chan.
I'm in contact with the mods right now, they said if I get dubs the thread moves to 4chan
Russia took 10 months to take Bakhmut.
Ukraine took Belgorod in 10 hours.
You tell me which army is exhausted.
prime mental gymnastics on display right there
No wonder he is not an American, for nobody would ever do any exercise at all, especially with the weakest part of their body.
That sounded better in your head
>for nobody would ever do any exercise at all
Holy mother of esl lmao. Do not redeem sir and head to your designated shitting street.
And so, the pretense of just being a poor old fiscally responsible American, worried about the cost of aid, fades away. After being mocked for his failures, he reveals himself to be an astroturfing Russian gay, making disingenuous complaints. What a surprise. Die out.
I wonder if someone predicted this? Oh, wait, I did -
The consensus has been the city was useless since the fighting around it began (see picrelated).
Proudly waving their flag over a useless city they pointlessly leveled to satisy a sunk-cost fallacy. Truly, there is no greater metaphor for the state of the Russian army.
How's traffic in Belgorod today?
>0.2% of last years GDP has done more political and financial damage to russia and russian backing states, than the past 2 decades of american involved conflicts combined, and seems to be giving back in dividends now that the american controlled institution of NATO is actually advancing for once
>Don't even have to deal with the political controversy of dead americans in foreign soil
i dont even like anglos and i gotta admit brandy boy got himself a sweet deal
Everyone in this thread was me, btw.
>all this seethe
>the slavs haven't even had their coffee yet
>ziggers are pretending taking 9+ months to take a shitty town 100km from your own border and suffering casualties in the 6 digits is something to celebrate
It would have been embarassing 6 months ago, now it's pathetic. It's also funny how the narrative went from "xaxaxa Russia strong and hohols weak, Kiev in 2 weeks" to "Ukrainian forces are basically HATO supersoldiers".
>100km from your own border
17km from the border of the prewar occupied areas
>The Russian military had 1.2 trillion dollars of funding over 20 years and 10 years to prepare for the invasion and nearly a 100 years of soviet stock
>Gets BTFO so bad by 80 billion dollars and 1 years worth of NATO scraps that they have to resort to throwing penal battalions at a bombed town
>said town lost any strategic relevance after the Ukis took Kharkiv and Izium
>bakhmut took 14 months
>Kharkiv took 1 week
>Belograde took 9 hours
LPR, VDV and the professional Russian military are all ground hamburger now we have to rely convicts and murderers. we are of winnings now because the russian budget is saved. HATO BTFO xaxaxaxa
When will retards stop trying to conflate nation building with actually military successes? You can't build a nation out of inbred Arabs the same way you can with the Japanese, Koreans, or Germans, but I'm pretty sure the their standing armies were obliterated much faster. Their insurgencies weren't even a challenge as some retards say they were because near the end of the occupation, the Taliban killed less Americans than bees did. Are people so butthurt and thirsty for victory against America's overwhelming military superiority that they have to invent victories?
Sometimes I wonder what makes someone so supportive of Russia, do you know the answer?
subjects with severe mental disorder, rapists, paid shills, pajeets and bugmen.
I don't like these people and they don't like this thing so I must like thing.
Profound mental retardation in most cases.
Butthurt in every sense of the word.
>60k dead rusmorons
>~8km in 9 months
Zisterz, is this really zictory?
Nobody who lives in California calls it “cali” that’s a cringe outsider term. You fucking cock sucking gay lmao.
How's Belgorod doing?
It sure would be a shame if ole' Kim had another domain seized...
I'm just going to say, as an impartial neutral with no bone to pick with either side of this conflict, who just does not want to get nuked, that the NATO/Western Alliance/European Unionists/British/Americans in this thread did not look good. Too many points out of their favor, too strong a position from the counter arguments, lots of face lost.
An effort, any can see. Informative, but...
>as soon as the thread starts auto saging the shill posts dry up
I guess their job here is done
Jesus what is it with techbros and vatnikery
>Billionaire Oligarch is a "restaurant owner"