>that can't even pen a T-72 Ural
on paper
Looking at the footage it does seem to get side shots on the lower hull at 0:40, which I'm pretty sure the 25mm can manage with APDS
a bet it's like the T34 story again: the actual armour doesn't match the design on paper due ot corruption/incompetence/whatever
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Remember that video with a ukie BTR-4 penning the side of a T72? I believe it.
All-or-nothing tank armor is a moronic and shit idea. While I admit that the rear and the roof cannot be feasibly armored to withstand powerful munitions, it's absolutely inexcusable that the sides can be penned with some shitty 25 mm APDS.
Side armor is neglected by pretty much everyone since if a tank is getting shot from the side it’s probably fricked anyways. I do think they should at least be rated to stop autocannon fire though, it wouldn’t add that much more weight and every western tank is already a bit overweight anyway. Concerns about frontal penetration seem a bit overblown now that it turns out Russia had like 2 rounds each of 3bm59 and 3bm60 and your average T-72 mobik crew is lucky to get a handful of 3bm42 rounds, might be worth it to take a bit of armor off the front to beef up the sides but I doubt that’d go over well
a bet it's like the T34 story again: the actual armour doesn't match the design on paper due ot corruption/incompetence/whatever
>that can't even pen a T-72 Ural
on paper
Looking at the footage it does seem to get side shots on the lower hull at 0:40, which I'm pretty sure the 25mm can manage with APDS
Remember that video with a ukie BTR-4 penning the side of a T72? I believe it.
that's because the source is terrible and this just happened today, I'm sure we'll get high quality HD zoom ins of chadley penetrating in this fight at some point
>that can't even pen a T-72 Ural
Every Russian tank can be penetrated from the sides by even 25mm APDS, let alone APFSDS.
There are parts of the side armor that are only 40mm thick and the engine compartment is even worse.
Did the t90 fire even once after the first burst of fire from chadley? That was kino. I can just imagine the ziggers seething in panic while the 25mm apfsds get penning
I believe the equipment is missing on account of having been struck by autocannon fire. Although recent production T-90Ms probably aren’t up to spec and are just pushed out anyway to meet quotas and make production numbers look good in articles
Before this war the scale modeler inside me wanted to believe into monke models because I think the design of T-series tanks just looks neat compared to decadent wectern designs, but here we are. Basically what
I hate that I find russian tanks aesthetically pleasing but they're in fact complete junk, same with their airplanes, such kino designs wasted because it's made by literal morons. frick.
just said.
I still wont stop building models about them or drooling over them though, I just know that they are SHIT!
It’s Stepove, a small village outside of Avdiivka in Donetsk. Russia has probably lost 10,000+ men by now trying to take it since October. There’s a lot of kino Bradley videos coming from there.
Stepove, the village just north west of Avdiivka that Russians need to take to encircle/into Avdiivka proper. Russians need to funnel themselves over a rail line which has turned into a kill zone.
I like the deployment of flares before going in and blasting. They got a few good hits, but it seems like it wasn't penetrating the tank, I think the driver and some of the crew inside got fricked though. Cool footage.
No, the Bradley IFV cannot fire its TOW missiles on the move. This is because the TOW missile is a wire-guided missile, which means that it requires a continuous wire link between the missile and the launcher in order to guide it to the target. If the Bradley is moving, the wire link can become tangled or broken, causing the missile to lose control and miss the target. Additionally, it is difficult for the gunner to keep the target in sight and guide the missile accurately while the vehicle is moving at high speeds.
The TOW missile is designed to be fired from a stationary position, so it is more accurate and reliable when the launcher is not moving. This makes sense, as the gunner has more time to carefully aim and the missile has a more stable flight path.
However, there are some situations where it may be necessary for the Bradley to fire its TOW missiles on the move. For example, if the Bradley is being attacked by a tank and has to take evasive maneuvers to avoid being hit, it may need to fire its TOW missiles while moving in order to defend itself. In these cases, the gunner will need to be very skilled and have good situational awareness in order to successfully guide the missiles to the target.
>-Are there 2 Bradly's in this video? I see something on the right
Looks like there is another one in the upper right somewhere. Probably why the tank crew didn't react. They were taking fire from multiple angles and panic set in if I had to speculate.
>-What is that explosion around 20 sec? Smoke screen?
25mm fire hitting the smoke grenades launchers I would assume.
I hadn’t even really considered it until recently but wouldn’t 25mm HE (or any other autocannon round really) absolutely frick up every expensive sensor and thermal imager that’s bolted onto a turret? Those are probably worth more than the hull itself to Russia at this point
Possibly even 3. The first volley is shot by a chadley that drives away, and the chadley that destroys the tank in the end comes in from the right. Also, in the beginning you can see fire in the upper right corner (0:15 onwards) being shot from way far back and that to my untrained eyes does look like 25mm barrage.
>-Are there 2 Bradly's in this video? I see something on the right
Looks like there is another one in the upper right somewhere. Probably why the tank crew didn't react. They were taking fire from multiple angles and panic set in if I had to speculate.
>-What is that explosion around 20 sec? Smoke screen?
25mm fire hitting the smoke grenades launchers I would assume.
Does this count as a gangbang?
There isn't a second Bradley, those flashes in the upper right are the 25mm shells that missed the tank exploding as they hit the ground
The Bradley crew just looped around, and went face to face with that T-90 and just blasted it.
I don't know if they are brave or suicidal, at least it worked.
Daily reminder that shit tons of people, including many on this board, believed or still believe this horseshit
APOLOGISE
SECOND TO NONE
But, doesnt this prove his point?
Bradley was not designed to engage T-90 from meelee range using bushmaster. Burton said it is stupid that crew dies when it gets penned by tank and went full metal autist to prevent that, even though it was considered too unprobable to even happen.
And here we are, watching Chadley decimate a tank from meelee range with its gun only.
I must say, Burton was a moron, but only moron like him can predict such moronic situations.
Burton was just abusing his position to try and prove a reformer point. The movie (and book it was based off) got brutally mogged when all the files got declassified. What Burton fails to mention is that prior to all this hed submitted several designs for ground attack aircraft without any guidance systems, radar or even a complex radio. It was rejected and he seethed then ended up in procurement and abused his position so hard the Army basically told him to either frick off and take early retirement or hed face a full investigation for wasting billions of US taxpayer money.
Dont even want to know how hard Sprey got outed in those files either.
The side armor is simply not built to withstand 25mm APFSDS going full blast. The cool as frick spinning turret is most likely because the gunner had his head explode from autocannon fire.
T-90s are just T-72s with a body kit. Russians make a lot of noise about their new ERA kits but it's been shown that the majority of the time the blocks are still using the same explosive element as 1970s Kontakt-1 instead of having their advertised protection
We saw Ukrainian BTRs fricking up T-72s with 30mm AP rounds (not even APDS) at close range at the start of the war. 25mm APFSDS will go through the side of one no problem.
You don't even necessarily need to penetrate. The mobik crew inside just panic once their metal shell starts banging like they're inside a church bell and they can't see shit outside since all the optics are fricked.
Is there any documentation of what its like to be inside a vehicle being pounded by 25mm? (or or similar weaponry in general).
I would imagine it to be fricking horrible and nightmare fuel but curious
Judging by the fact that they didn't fire back I'd guess they were fricked from the start. Possibly a total chaos and panic when and if their sensors and optics get blown to shit and the shells start penetrating the sides and rear
Probably feels like getting in a car crash every time a round hits, wouldn’t be surprised if it could disable a crew through just concussing them until they pass out even without penetration, may have been what led to the driver crashing at the end since it didn’t seem like his compartment was ever penetrated
I would have guessed the driver rammed the tree to stop the turret from spinning.
Don't think he would be able to get out without getting liveleaked with it spinning.
I remember listening to something that had a bit from a Cromwell crew in WW2, during the fighting after Market Garden fell apart his platoon were moving up to follow a recon element that reported a small rise that passed for high ground was clear before moving on. What they didn't realize was that a group of Germans were camped about a hundred meters away from the road hiding in some trees who panicked and threw their shit together to run, and were just hitting the road when the Cromwells crested the rise so a 20mm on a truck lit them up. It didn't do anything to the tank, but the guy said they weren't expecting it so the noise was like the biggest fright of your life when you jump and drop whatever your holding and your hands get all shaky, then it took him a good ten seconds to actually get his eye lined up with the scope (he was either the gunner or the commander)
dude like turn the tank around 90º to face it and then shoot it, they were moving up and down the same straight road, what shitty optics did that tank have that they could not hit it?
>in a loud tank, commander screaming at the gunner >suddenly the loudest fricking sound is ringing the hull of your tank non-fricking-stop and you have no clue where it's coming from or what to do
One thing I’ve never been sure of is if the missile will actually not launch or if it’s just not advised because of how easily it could go wrong. Does anyone know?
If IFV's got completely open line of sight to your side armor and got to fire round after round then no, the crew and / or the tank would just die. The big difference is that the modern western tanks have significantly better situational awareness of the battlefield which would make situations like this less likely. To be clear a BMP-2 could destroy the latest and most upgraded Abrams that the US could manufacture if said BMP-2 got to dump 50 rounds of APFSDS to the side of that tank.
I've always remembered a news story that came out during the "quagmire" phase of OIF1 (during the sandstorm, and the pause for the loggies to catch up) that mentioned that two Abrams were disabled (but repairable) in a wild melee by 25mm depleted uranium rounds to the rear armor.
Somehow, the journalists involved never clued into the fact that Saddam had neither 25mm rounds nor DU... Oops. Some 3ID LT probably got a royal chewing out that day.
After the shooting starts, not particularly, assuming an equally (in)competent crew, but it is still pretty funny. The better thermals and other various sensors/electronics may let them identify and engage the threats much sooner though, so they’d probably have a slightly better chance. The situation in the video isn’t one any tank ever wants to be in though.
The optics existed, maybe, until the 25mm HEI started hitting. I suspect that some of the new production “T-90M” tanks may not actually have all of their specified components, but if they had any thermal sight at all I struggle to understand how they could’ve found themselves in this situation. Are Russians really just that moronic? I suppose I should know by now that the answer is yes.
I think the biggest frick up that happened here didn't come from the T-90M crew, but the Russian drone operators that were supposed to support them.
The T-90M was totally fricking clueless that a Bradley was driving up on their ass mere meters away. Any competent drone operator would've told them exactly what was where, but either EW is air tight, or there's a long communications chain, or they're moronic.
Eurobros? Saabbros? 40mmbros? What is our response to this? It's not a good look to see a chadley obliterate a T-90 with nothing but autocannon fire in 4k. I'm starting to think we made the wrong decision and should've just contracted Northrop to put Bushmasters in our IFVs.
The Bushmasters are just really fricking good. The Finns decided to go with a 30mm Bushmaster instead of the 40mm turret that the Swedes went with. Just look at that accuracy and compare it to the shit that you see with the BMP-2 fire you see in Ukraine. I fricking love Bushmasters.
>The 10 year old Cuckvehicle-90: one solitary training video >30 year old Chadley: weekly video of it wiping out mobik squads, flattening ziggers trenches under its treads, and dominating modern MBTs in head-on duels
To be fair from what I've heard it's down to the fact that 40mm is too scarce to really commit the CV-90's to frontal assaults and wiping out trenchlines whereas 25mm stockpiles are basically an endless cornucopia.
>Historical footage of the MBT pride of Russia in close combat with a 35yo American IFV for the first time. >Buuhhh boring get better material
The Bradley's turning 43 this year.
god imagine if the us took on these kinds of losses for just 1 pile of rubble. we would tar and feather the O-6+ who is responsible.
They'd sack everyone from the division commander down to the battalion XO. And everyone below him would already be dead.
>Kelsey Grammer >Cary Elwes
how did I not know about this? definitely gotta watch it now
It's funny, but the problem is morons think it's a documentary. Cary Elwes' character is a real guy named James Burton who wrote the book the movie's based on, and he was king of the morons.
You need to do some or research (or don't, I won't judge you for not caring about Russia) because there are a number of historical factors that can be directly linked to the absolute state of modern Russia
These include (but are not limited to) the Mongol invasion of Russia, the Russian invasion and occupation if the Hanseatic league (Did you know that St Petersburg was once a free city with a thriving trade economy and its own elected representative government?), the rise of Communism, the fall of communism, the communist administration, the post communist economic crash and even geographic and environmental factors like the sheer size of the place all play a role.
Sure, all of these things are things a nation of white people could probably overcome but the Russians have a serious handicap in that particular direction
Yet somehow there is still a world of people who think most ukkies want to give up, I mean, you have republican senators literally telling everyone ukkies should give up their land while Zelinsky government nowadays is basically "GIVE US MORE WEAPONS TO KILL THEM ALL".
No wonder most end up coping by saying it's CIA psyops or the reptilians.
>If T90s are that close to Bradleys this means that the Ukrainian front collapsed.
Nah, it's Stepove. Russia has been throwing tanks and IFVs at it for several weeks now. Each time they get beat back only to try again with more mobiks.
what absolute pure /k/ino: >first chadley drive-by >second chadley firing HEIT away on treeline on top right >third chadley rolls up and savages the t-90 >cluster munitions going off on the left
jesus christ, these are straight up murder zones
vatnigs are getting farmed in this area lmao
I don't know shit about tanks, isn't the whole point of a tank that it can't be destroyed by smaller weapons like that? I don't get it, what is it that tanks are actually immune to?
Armor thickness means nothing in this situation. That many rounds hitting a tank will frick up the optics/hydraulics and severely disorient the crew. Complete mission kill.
>That many rounds hitting a tank will frick up the optics/hydraulics and severely disorient the crew.
so it's just like bashing it into submission then? or do you mean they partially penetrate or something? like I said I don't know shit.
I see, so just how vulnerable are those optics and whatnot, could they be destroyed by something even weaker than this gun?
4 months ago
Anonymous
You won't get close enough to the tank to shoot into optics, but in the first months of the invasion there were stories, about snipers, who stopped tanks by shooting into optics
4 months ago
Anonymous
>You won't get close enough to the tank to shoot into optics,
Deliberately but saturation fire certainly ups the odds.
4 months ago
Anonymous
maybe something like.....a mobik with a shovel?
4 months ago
Anonymous
You won't get close enough to the tank to shoot into optics, but in the first months of the invasion there were stories, about snipers, who stopped tanks by shooting into optics
lol really? well damn that seems like a pretty serious achillies heel.
4 months ago
Anonymous
Not really. Normally there will be a minimum of 3 sights: a backup sight, a gunners and a commanders sight. The backup will be closed with bulletproof shutters unless its needed. The tank can blast you anywhere, while you have to carefully line up multiple perfect hits in a row.
It's the same concept as medieval plate armor. It's not about being 100% invincible, it's about being 90% which gives you an additional speed and risk advantage over an enemy.
4 months ago
Anonymous
The US should replace its entire abrams fleet with Bradleys
4 months ago
Anonymous
Tank commanders' have their own set of sights with independent turret controls so they take over aiming the gun if needed. Often gunners' have both a primary and a backup sight. And the commander and driver have vision blocks which at least allow them to see their surroundings even if the rest of the optics and sensors are disabled.
If they were using the APFSDS rounds it wouldn't be unreasonable to assume the crew was fricked by spalling. The constant rotating of the turret at the end makes it seem like they're not having a good time either way.
Every tank since the beginning of its invention has had heavy armor in the front and shitty thin armor on the back and the sides. Bradleys surrounded it so it had not choice to expose its weaker parts of its armor. Even the strongest tanks in the world can be killed by simply blowing up the tracks with a tiny gun then targeting it with artillery while it is immobilized. Tanks are meant to face their targets not away from them
But according to /k/ all those hamas RPG hits on the sides and asses of merkavas never penetrate...
4 months ago
Anonymous
Because RPGs are not good enough to pen a Merkava
4 months ago
Anonymous
Depends on the warhead and yes some of them penetrate merkavas, we like it or not.
4 months ago
Anonymous
That’s because of the ERA panels. ERA is designed to defeat shaped charges for the most part, it’s not good at defeating kinetic penetrators (modern Russian ERA was supposed to be better at this but we’ve seen how well that went in practice)
Not every single part of the tank can be armored against auto cannon fire. Each part of the armor has a certain protection level. The sides, top and back are usually more vulnerable. There are many ways to kill a tank, by physically destroying it, killing its crew, or disabling tracks or another system it needs to do its job.
That tank took 30 hits to the side at close range from an armor piercing auto cannon, at least one round probably found a weak spot and penetrated and killed the gunner and possibly the driver and commander too. The spinning and aimless driving is most likely their bodies lying on the controls.
Hydraulics are inside but they'll frick up any external optics they or the spall from the hits impact. To damage hydraulics requires penning hull or turret.
How good are Russian spall liners or is the crew expected to catch spall with their (flammable due to vodka) bodies? If those rounds spall at every hit even a thicc liner could fail. Should that happen it's like wooden warships perforating gunners with wood splinters.
Sp. Outside the frontal arc, the T62/72/80/90 has a hull thickness varying from 45mm to 80mm. That's good enough to stop large artillery fragments at close range, or many kinds of autocannons firing at a bad angle or single shot or old ammunition, but it's not going to do much against sustained modern autocannon fire.
>but it's not going to do much against sustained modern autocannon fire.
so what actually makes it fail? the armor gets progressively weakened from being pounded repeatedly?
Sometimes, but also because the armor isn't perfectly flat all over; there are thin spots, holes cut in for optics or axles or the turret ring etc and spamming shots until a few dig through a thin spot is a valid tactic.
This sort of happens with ERA, as each block can only absorb one hit due to its nature, but it’s not as much of a thing with the actual steel hull armor, although it does get weakened after repeated hits. You’re not going to penetrate a tank by shooting the same spot 1,000 times with 9mm or anything though. The side armor just isn’t that great on most tanks since doctrinally they’re never supposed to be pointing anything except their front towards the enemy. They’re never supposed to get this close either so obviously many things went wrong in the video
I don't know shit about tanks, isn't the whole point of a tank that it can't be destroyed by smaller weapons like that? I don't get it, what is it that tanks are actually immune to?
tanks are just for dick measuring and bullying irregular infantry (just pray they don't have western rpg's)
Tamks are not immune to anything, even small arms fire can hinder a tank if it is accurate and well placed
What tanks are is fast, armoured and packing a genuinely exceptional amount of fire-power
There are many things on the modern battlefield can kill a tank, but there is literally nothing in the ground forces of any nation on earth that can actually survive being directly engaged by the main gun of a modern tank.
In short the tank is the apex predator of ground combat, it is the armoured fighting vehicle that every other armoured fighting vehicle aspires to be, but it is most definitely NOT invincible
25mm isn't exactly a small weapon, at the very least the crew is basically having a bomb go off besides their head every second so that can disorient or concuss the crew. and a lucky shot from an armor penetrating round in a weak spot in the armor can do serious damage.
also Russia is notorious for lying about their equipment's capabilities. so this isn't all that surprising, but it is still humiliating.
Russian tank design is slapdash and lazy. A "cargo cult" of industrial design. Same with their BMP and BTR series.
In the T-series tank case: all their tanks have small turrets composed of two layers. Innermost is a simple steel dome, which was already reaching its limit toward the end of WW2. Around this simple steel dome is a hollow wedge, which mounts blocks of "explosive-reactive armor" (ERA).
ERA is usually only good for countering one hit, because as the name suggests, it blows itself up to make a counter-shockwave against the incoming attack.
Well, the M242 Bushmaster 25mm autocannon has an easy time landing consecutive hits in around the same spot. So it chews through the Russians' lazy bolt-on armor scheme.
The reason why Western tanks tend to look CHONKY in comparison to most T-series is that they're a dense block of stuff. A lot to chew through, at least horizontally. Not so much bolt-on façades.
Wrong, improved Urals had some kind of ceramic armor added to the cheeks and more modern cast turrets do have NERA arrays, as do modern welded turrets. They just have limited coverage focused entirely on the frontal arc with the sides of the turret being plain RHA + ERA.
I fricking hate you Americans.
Right now I want to kick your fricking heads and step on them.
You bastards have been telling us that the Bradley was a mistake and underperformed everywhere. For two decades.
APOLOGIZE
The denizens of the People's Republic of Berkely and the likes aren't americans, they are fifth columnists who should be thrown in the middle of some nork woods so they can enjoy the realities of communism.
Is it possible the turret spin was just caused by the rotating mechanism being damaged or is it more likely the guy controlling it was turned into paste?
>Armatard gets back from whatever shilling hole he fell into during the houthi attack >Is now back to shit up the board
It's just so obvious. Why can't you just be human instead of this obvious low effort baiting sperg.
All right this is it. Were 12 days into the year 2024 and this is it.
Absolute fricking state or Uralvagonzavod piece of fricking shits.
Mods might as well sticky the thread and play World Beater on loop
This is a fair statement to make. Bradley isn’t going anywhere for a long time. We will see them serve all over the world for the next 50 years at least. The US will hand these things out like candy when their new IFV gets delivered.
This is a fair statement to make. Bradley isn’t going anywhere for a long time. We will see them serve all over the world for the next 50 years at least. The US will hand these things out like candy when their new IFV gets delivered.
Talking to yourself is never a sign of mental stability.
it's amazing and awesome to see in real time. All the shit talking and dick swinging by the slavs and they get BTFOd. Much like throughout history even Napoleonic times, Western Forces are superior, just a fact.
I cannot believe how overhyped Russia was. We heard all through the 2000's how scary Russia was and how their tech was totally just as good as ours and their soldiers were all elite super soldiers.
And what happens when they actually pick a fight with someone backed by NATO? They get slaughtered in droves. I can't believe how American politicians, Republicans and Democrats alike, expected us to be afraid of these morons.
They have been terrible literally for centuries. Nappy BTFOd them MANY times. They always talk shit then tuck tail. It's literally their DNA. Alexander and the many Tsars they have had literally just built on the backs of peasants. It's like feudal age while everyone else was in the enlightenment era.
Yep. They would have literally been throwing bodies with hand to hand combat with machine guns, literally. They would rather burn their own shit than be taken alive. They're like fricking bugs, or bacteria.
even the shit they made themselves was largely made using factories and infrastructure that was built for them by Americans pre war, the stalingrad tractor plant was literally built by Ford lmao.
Yep. They would have literally been throwing bodies with hand to hand combat with machine guns, literally. They would rather burn their own shit than be taken alive. They're like fricking bugs, or bacteria.
>literally
even the shit they made themselves was largely made using factories and infrastructure that was built for them by Americans pre war, the stalingrad tractor plant was literally built by Ford lmao.
I knew russian armor was inferior, but this completely surpassed my expectations, when I read that a bradley destroyed a t-90 I instantly imagined it must've used those anti tank missiles, but they actually did it with a fricking 25mm cannon LMAO. Any modern western tank, hell, even a Leopard 1 would shrug that off.
Thinks are not looking good for tankies rn
Frontally, sure. From the side Leo-1, even 2 would struggle depending on the variant and location hit with a long burst like that. 25 mm APFSDS does not frick around
The tank itself might shrug it off, but that thing got fricking hosed down for minutes straight and crewmen are still just fragile little meat blobs that don't really enjoy having their brains concussed to frick. I wouldn't want to be inside even a fortified bunker during that.
Feels good doesn't it? If anything solely to shit on Russians having talked shit about American hardware is good enough a reason to send Ukrainians hardware after giving them good training. Hope they can propagate the training from the current crews once the next aid package passes.
What ammunition you reckon they used? Judging by the inciedary/explosive effects sometimes occurring on some shots and not on some I'd guess he alternated between apfsds and HE rounds. But I wonder why one would do that, instead of just going full blast on the DU/tungsten AP rounds? Is it possible he used the HE purposely just to beat the optics quicker?
I hate that I find russian tanks aesthetically pleasing but they're in fact complete junk, same with their airplanes, such kino designs wasted because it's made by literal morons. frick.
Just look at it, were it in any other circumstances youd be getting praised or nominated for awards when it comes to artistic design and worldbuilding.
But alas, its a RWR indicator on a POS MiG-29/35, not a Working Joe detector in a game of Alien Isolation.
I hate reality.
Russian aircraft are actually avionicly outstanding. The thing is, their radars and weaponry are still from the 80s/90s. We don't do dogfights anymore.
SlavCore Military Aesthetics definitely have a certain inspired form to them that struggles to break through the myriad layers of corruption and incompetence.
2024 has been such a busy year so far in regards to American superiority. I’m still sitting on a whole new lineup of threads but more Ameri/k/ino is released every day. I haven’t gotten to even bring up romanias massive HIMARS order or the brand new stinger orders from Germany, Italy, and the Netherlands
this war is gay, but bradleys killing armour is always great.
Playing conflict desert storm and doing the bradley missions was the best.
>playing war thunder IRL
I fricking hate this map. The most campey shit ever.
Bullshit there are 6 more “campy” maps before this one. B is wide open so there isn’t a lot of close combat on it but A and C get lots of action
SECOND TO NONE
A MARINE AND HIS GUN
>rams into a tree while spinning around whilst on fire
kino zigger death machine
>that turret rotation
>blindly drives into a tree/building
So what, dead/dying crew?
looked like the gunner/commander bailed out earlier and the driver never got the memo.
go home T90m you're drunk
Tank is fine, you can see it spinning up its helo engine at the end there, the driver just made a mistake and hit a tree, that's all.
>gets fricking knocked out by a 30mm fricking bushmaster that can't even pen a T-72 Ural
this T-90M crew got fricking mogged
correction i'm moronic 25mm
>that can't even pen a T-72 Ural
on paper
Looking at the footage it does seem to get side shots on the lower hull at 0:40, which I'm pretty sure the 25mm can manage with APDS
All-or-nothing tank armor is a moronic and shit idea. While I admit that the rear and the roof cannot be feasibly armored to withstand powerful munitions, it's absolutely inexcusable that the sides can be penned with some shitty 25 mm APDS.
Side armor is neglected by pretty much everyone since if a tank is getting shot from the side it’s probably fricked anyways. I do think they should at least be rated to stop autocannon fire though, it wouldn’t add that much more weight and every western tank is already a bit overweight anyway. Concerns about frontal penetration seem a bit overblown now that it turns out Russia had like 2 rounds each of 3bm59 and 3bm60 and your average T-72 mobik crew is lucky to get a handful of 3bm42 rounds, might be worth it to take a bit of armor off the front to beef up the sides but I doubt that’d go over well
a bet it's like the T34 story again: the actual armour doesn't match the design on paper due ot corruption/incompetence/whatever
Remember that video with a ukie BTR-4 penning the side of a T72? I believe it.
You spin me right round baby right round
fricking washing machine chips getting used again
free spinning turret is interesting, how does the crew control the turret rotation in a T-90?
I guess we wont be seeing any t90 shill threads for a while.do you guys remember that wobblecopter that they used to shill here?
Your webm quality is horrible.
that's because the source is terrible and this just happened today, I'm sure we'll get high quality HD zoom ins of chadley penetrating in this fight at some point
>that can't even pen a T-72 Ural
Every Russian tank can be penetrated from the sides by even 25mm APDS, let alone APFSDS.
There are parts of the side armor that are only 40mm thick and the engine compartment is even worse.
every time I see a Bradley shooting at a tank.
>SPARKS
Why is it so beautiful?
Cool video, mute the audio to skip the chipmunks. Got the original speed vid?
https://t.me/WarArchive_ua/9564
I guess I could have found it from the watermark, thanks for spoon feeding me
Original speed
https://streamable.com/9g7ele
Thanks
Maybe they shouldn't have used those scavenged washing machine chips for the turret control.
Or at least put it on "Delicates"
Damn, the Bradley's 25mm hits hard as hell. The supression effect is impressive, even inside that T90 the crew must have been in shock
Did the t90 fire even once after the first burst of fire from chadley? That was kino. I can just imagine the ziggers seething in panic while the 25mm apfsds get penning
Doesn't look like it even fired once. Optics probably got all sorts of fricked up from the initial barrage of 25mm.
It fired point blank at 0:07, landed completely short
Result
Would be pure kino if we get some close ups. Would love to see how the 25mm performed.
anon said that it can't be penerated so everything without problem comrade
Looks like a T90m monkey model.
It is missing some protection on the rear. And the modern equipments.
It is not the real deal.
I believe the equipment is missing on account of having been struck by autocannon fire. Although recent production T-90Ms probably aren’t up to spec and are just pushed out anyway to meet quotas and make production numbers look good in articles
This is supposedly the same tank in question, observe as you will
Seems like /k/ has an inside scoop. This thread was from before todays video got dropped
I checked that thread out. Some guy in there attributed it to a warriortard. I guess he’s some kind of board shaman or something
I just saw a tweet from a Ukrainian soldier and posted it to the board. Also high-res drone footage will be published soon
>high-res
don't blueball me now
Shouldn't it be crashed into a tree?
>Turret sits perfectly 90 degrees facing forward
It's a different t-90 also no tree
If 2022 taught us anything, it's that Soviet/Russian equipment is monkey models all the way down.
All Russian vehicles are monkey models.
Before this war the scale modeler inside me wanted to believe into monke models because I think the design of T-series tanks just looks neat compared to decadent wectern designs, but here we are. Basically what
just said.
I still wont stop building models about them or drooling over them though, I just know that they are SHIT!
There's a reason tractor miniature models got a uptick in orders in 2022.
I mean if that's what they put on the field, how is that not "the real deal"?
T90 M(onke) ooga boog 2024
CHADley
These Bradleys usually carry a pair of TOW missiles, right?
Yhe but you have to be stationary to fire them and on that range whould be a death sentence
>T-90M lost to Bradley in a duel
>turret still turning
>tank still driving
tank is of fine, da*~~*~~
such things happen in war, even Bradley disable Challenger
Geolocated?
>can't recognize the most popular map: Stepove
Avdiivka
It’s Stepove, a small village outside of Avdiivka in Donetsk. Russia has probably lost 10,000+ men by now trying to take it since October. There’s a lot of kino Bradley videos coming from there.
Stepove, the village just north west of Avdiivka that Russians need to take to encircle/into Avdiivka proper. Russians need to funnel themselves over a rail line which has turned into a kill zone.
god imagine if the us took on these kinds of losses for just 1 pile of rubble. we would tar and feather the O-6+ who is responsible.
I like the deployment of flares before going in and blasting. They got a few good hits, but it seems like it wasn't penetrating the tank, I think the driver and some of the crew inside got fricked though. Cool footage.
And by penetrating I mean it blowing up if the rounds hit the shells stored in the tank.
haha speen
This drops on the same day the video that makes the CV90 look bad. The Americans did it again
nature is healing
Do the Bradleys the US sent over there not have TOWs?
I remember a TOW video from a week or so ago. But obviously not enough
(01:30-02:30)
NGL it's kind of spooky how that tank kept moving for a full minute despite all of the crew being dead.
It’s like a chicken with its head cutoff
the fricking balls on them
Bradley can't use the TOW while on the move right? I might just be talking out my ass there but I'm pretty sure that's right.
No, the Bradley IFV cannot fire its TOW missiles on the move. This is because the TOW missile is a wire-guided missile, which means that it requires a continuous wire link between the missile and the launcher in order to guide it to the target. If the Bradley is moving, the wire link can become tangled or broken, causing the missile to lose control and miss the target. Additionally, it is difficult for the gunner to keep the target in sight and guide the missile accurately while the vehicle is moving at high speeds.
The TOW missile is designed to be fired from a stationary position, so it is more accurate and reliable when the launcher is not moving. This makes sense, as the gunner has more time to carefully aim and the missile has a more stable flight path.
However, there are some situations where it may be necessary for the Bradley to fire its TOW missiles on the move. For example, if the Bradley is being attacked by a tank and has to take evasive maneuvers to avoid being hit, it may need to fire its TOW missiles while moving in order to defend itself. In these cases, the gunner will need to be very skilled and have good situational awareness in order to successfully guide the missiles to the target.
Thanks ChatGPT
>no, bradley cannot fire its tow missiles on the move
>however, it may need to fire its tow missiles while moving
chatgpt moment
The Bradleys Ukraine got can apparently also fire Javelins, though I'm not sure if they were provided.
That random beep in the video scared me
Anyone surprised at the outcome is moronic . Without support Bradley will win 9/10 due to better mobility and optics
25mm confirmed best IFV round
2 questions:
-Are there 2 Bradly's in this video? I see something on the right
-What is that explosion around 20 sec? Smoke screen?
>-Are there 2 Bradly's in this video? I see something on the right
Looks like there is another one in the upper right somewhere. Probably why the tank crew didn't react. They were taking fire from multiple angles and panic set in if I had to speculate.
>-What is that explosion around 20 sec? Smoke screen?
25mm fire hitting the smoke grenades launchers I would assume.
I hadn’t even really considered it until recently but wouldn’t 25mm HE (or any other autocannon round really) absolutely frick up every expensive sensor and thermal imager that’s bolted onto a turret? Those are probably worth more than the hull itself to Russia at this point
For sure, I wouldn't be surprised if the optics for destroyed or at the very least damaged on the T-90.
Possibly even 3. The first volley is shot by a chadley that drives away, and the chadley that destroys the tank in the end comes in from the right. Also, in the beginning you can see fire in the upper right corner (0:15 onwards) being shot from way far back and that to my untrained eyes does look like 25mm barrage.
You are right. Something is getting fricked at the top right in the distance. Around 0:15
There isn't a second Bradley, those flashes in the upper right are the 25mm shells that missed the tank exploding as they hit the ground
No look at 0:15 at the horizon on the right. Another battle going on
There's 3 bradleys. Watch the video. You can see 2 of them and see the volley being shot by one in the beginning way behind the drone on the right.
The Bradley crew just looped around, and went face to face with that T-90 and just blasted it.
I don't know if they are brave or suicidal, at least it worked.
They were this moronic in training too
Handheld by the vehicle I guess
Burton is rolling in his grave
Burton's still alive.
He's rolling in his bed then
But, doesnt this prove his point?
Bradley was not designed to engage T-90 from meelee range using bushmaster. Burton said it is stupid that crew dies when it gets penned by tank and went full metal autist to prevent that, even though it was considered too unprobable to even happen.
And here we are, watching Chadley decimate a tank from meelee range with its gun only.
I must say, Burton was a moron, but only moron like him can predict such moronic situations.
Burton was just abusing his position to try and prove a reformer point. The movie (and book it was based off) got brutally mogged when all the files got declassified. What Burton fails to mention is that prior to all this hed submitted several designs for ground attack aircraft without any guidance systems, radar or even a complex radio. It was rejected and he seethed then ended up in procurement and abused his position so hard the Army basically told him to either frick off and take early retirement or hed face a full investigation for wasting billions of US taxpayer money.
Dont even want to know how hard Sprey got outed in those files either.
Daily reminder that shit tons of people, including many on this board, believed or still believe this horseshit
APOLOGISE
SECOND TO NONE
I refuse to believe that 25mm alone can take out a modern MBT. It must have had preexisting damage or something. Still a good kill.
Also mobility of Bradley is very impressive, the ziggers didn't know what hit them.
do you think tanks have HP? if it penetrates it penetrates
>Also mobility of Bradley
Crew seems well trained
The side armor is simply not built to withstand 25mm APFSDS going full blast. The cool as frick spinning turret is most likely because the gunner had his head explode from autocannon fire.
T-90s are just T-72s with a body kit. Russians make a lot of noise about their new ERA kits but it's been shown that the majority of the time the blocks are still using the same explosive element as 1970s Kontakt-1 instead of having their advertised protection
We saw Ukrainian BTRs fricking up T-72s with 30mm AP rounds (not even APDS) at close range at the start of the war. 25mm APFSDS will go through the side of one no problem.
>modern MBT.
Where were those in that video?
Russians lie about all their equipment.
Everything Russian is absolute dogshit.
Chinese stuff is a million times better.
>Chinese stuff is a million times better
nobody tell him about the chink military administration corruption scandal
You don't even necessarily need to penetrate. The mobik crew inside just panic once their metal shell starts banging like they're inside a church bell and they can't see shit outside since all the optics are fricked.
Mobradley Dick back at it again
Is there any documentation of what its like to be inside a vehicle being pounded by 25mm? (or or similar weaponry in general).
I would imagine it to be fricking horrible and nightmare fuel but curious
Judging by the fact that they didn't fire back I'd guess they were fricked from the start. Possibly a total chaos and panic when and if their sensors and optics get blown to shit and the shells start penetrating the sides and rear
Probably feels like getting in a car crash every time a round hits, wouldn’t be surprised if it could disable a crew through just concussing them until they pass out even without penetration, may have been what led to the driver crashing at the end since it didn’t seem like his compartment was ever penetrated
I would have guessed the driver rammed the tree to stop the turret from spinning.
Don't think he would be able to get out without getting liveleaked with it spinning.
I remember listening to something that had a bit from a Cromwell crew in WW2, during the fighting after Market Garden fell apart his platoon were moving up to follow a recon element that reported a small rise that passed for high ground was clear before moving on. What they didn't realize was that a group of Germans were camped about a hundred meters away from the road hiding in some trees who panicked and threw their shit together to run, and were just hitting the road when the Cromwells crested the rise so a 20mm on a truck lit them up. It didn't do anything to the tank, but the guy said they weren't expecting it so the noise was like the biggest fright of your life when you jump and drop whatever your holding and your hands get all shaky, then it took him a good ten seconds to actually get his eye lined up with the scope (he was either the gunner or the commander)
Did the crew eat 25 mm fragments and their bodies push on the controls of the still operating tank?
Is that black smoke coming out of the barrel at 1:35 onwards? Must be a fire in the fighting compartment.
20 seconds of pure sex
Was hit in the side armor approximately 30 times at about 1km range.
Even if the armor is officially rated to stop 25mm, that number of sustained hits in the same area will cut through it eventually.
dude like turn the tank around 90º to face it and then shoot it, they were moving up and down the same straight road, what shitty optics did that tank have that they could not hit it?
>in a loud tank, commander screaming at the gunner
>suddenly the loudest fricking sound is ringing the hull of your tank non-fricking-stop and you have no clue where it's coming from or what to do
yeah, just turn 90 deg
this is not ww2
well sure, for everyone except russia
>garmin GPS units in jets
>chinese consumer grade aliexpress radios for commanders
Does this count as a gangbang?
>597 KB
PLAP PLAP PLAP PLAP PLAP
GET PENNED GET PENNED GET PENNED GET PENNED
What I’m about to say is a factual statement, nothing more. Well, here it goes. The warrior couldn’t do this
Enjoy it while it lasts
does the crew roll without TOWs? im thinking one tow would turned that T-90M into a fireworks display
They can't fire it while moving.
One thing I’ve never been sure of is if the missile will actually not launch or if it’s just not advised because of how easily it could go wrong. Does anyone know?
It's wire-guided, if they move while firing the guide wire will get caught on something and frick up the trajectory.
Yes, I know that. I’m asking if the vehicle’s FCS will actually prevent launches while above a certain speed or not.
Probably not. Besides a lot of the TOW Ukraine has are RF guided and don’t have any wires at all
wouldn’t they be called TORFs then
Yeah...bullshit. Not even gonna waste my time watching some blurry shit from a kilometer away.
>The zigger cries out.
It's fricking 4k compared to anything Puccia puts out.
Holy cope
>40 years old IFV
>Not enough repair parts, soldiers cannibalize multiple IFVs to just fix others
>Still fricks best russian tank
I'M SORRY, BRADLEY
Would a western tank like Challenger, Leo, or Abrams fare better in this situation?
If IFV's got completely open line of sight to your side armor and got to fire round after round then no, the crew and / or the tank would just die. The big difference is that the modern western tanks have significantly better situational awareness of the battlefield which would make situations like this less likely. To be clear a BMP-2 could destroy the latest and most upgraded Abrams that the US could manufacture if said BMP-2 got to dump 50 rounds of APFSDS to the side of that tank.
I've always remembered a news story that came out during the "quagmire" phase of OIF1 (during the sandstorm, and the pause for the loggies to catch up) that mentioned that two Abrams were disabled (but repairable) in a wild melee by 25mm depleted uranium rounds to the rear armor.
Somehow, the journalists involved never clued into the fact that Saddam had neither 25mm rounds nor DU... Oops. Some 3ID LT probably got a royal chewing out that day.
After the shooting starts, not particularly, assuming an equally (in)competent crew, but it is still pretty funny. The better thermals and other various sensors/electronics may let them identify and engage the threats much sooner though, so they’d probably have a slightly better chance. The situation in the video isn’t one any tank ever wants to be in though.
100 Bradley's with a defeated Russian airforce could take Moscow. I'm sure of it
I always believed in you Bradley.
>puccian heavy armour is penetrated by fricking bushmasters
what the frick lmao
Bradleys raped T-72s in 1991
Bradleys raped T-72s in 2003
Why are you surprised that Bradleys are raping T-72s in 2024?
I thought they used the ATGMs, soviet armor is such a meme
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The cope about middle eastern T-72s is they didn't have optics . This T-72 should theoretically have "optics"
optics don't stop 25mm from turning the crew to paste
It can if it allows you to hit a slowly moving object once before it wrecks you.
The optics existed, maybe, until the 25mm HEI started hitting. I suspect that some of the new production “T-90M” tanks may not actually have all of their specified components, but if they had any thermal sight at all I struggle to understand how they could’ve found themselves in this situation. Are Russians really just that moronic? I suppose I should know by now that the answer is yes.
I think the biggest frick up that happened here didn't come from the T-90M crew, but the Russian drone operators that were supposed to support them.
The T-90M was totally fricking clueless that a Bradley was driving up on their ass mere meters away. Any competent drone operator would've told them exactly what was where, but either EW is air tight, or there's a long communications chain, or they're moronic.
Eurobros? Saabbros? 40mmbros? What is our response to this? It's not a good look to see a chadley obliterate a T-90 with nothing but autocannon fire in 4k. I'm starting to think we made the wrong decision and should've just contracted Northrop to put Bushmasters in our IFVs.
Are you willing to use DU rounds?
The Bushmasters are just really fricking good. The Finns decided to go with a 30mm Bushmaster instead of the 40mm turret that the Swedes went with. Just look at that accuracy and compare it to the shit that you see with the BMP-2 fire you see in Ukraine. I fricking love Bushmasters.
Forgot my link frick.
?t=9
Swedes on suicide watch
>The 10 year old Cuckvehicle-90: one solitary training video
>30 year old Chadley: weekly video of it wiping out mobik squads, flattening ziggers trenches under its treads, and dominating modern MBTs in head-on duels
To be fair from what I've heard it's down to the fact that 40mm is too scarce to really commit the CV-90's to frontal assaults and wiping out trenchlines whereas 25mm stockpiles are basically an endless cornucopia.
This is the new cope now that the “Sweden forbids the release of cv90 footage” turned out to be false
is this CV-90 fault that all Russian assaults in Kupiansk area end on first minefield?
It’s the CV90s fault for being so fricking bad compared to the Bradley
The Bradley's turning 43 this year.
They'd sack everyone from the division commander down to the battalion XO. And everyone below him would already be dead.
It's funny, but the problem is morons think it's a documentary. Cary Elwes' character is a real guy named James Burton who wrote the book the movie's based on, and he was king of the morons.
Kek the same video posted in shitter getting some zigger seethe
what the frick is wrong with russians?
They're Russian.
Pride
people have been asking this question for literal centuries
no one to my knowledge has ever come up with a good answer
You need to do some or research (or don't, I won't judge you for not caring about Russia) because there are a number of historical factors that can be directly linked to the absolute state of modern Russia
These include (but are not limited to) the Mongol invasion of Russia, the Russian invasion and occupation if the Hanseatic league (Did you know that St Petersburg was once a free city with a thriving trade economy and its own elected representative government?), the rise of Communism, the fall of communism, the communist administration, the post communist economic crash and even geographic and environmental factors like the sheer size of the place all play a role.
Sure, all of these things are things a nation of white people could probably overcome but the Russians have a serious handicap in that particular direction
Let me share some wisdom of Tengri: culture of smal heada
>driving into a tank and not only surviving but knocking it out
I will never have balls this big
>knocking it out
As opposed to letting yourself get blown up by a T-90?
>balls
Not wanting to be MBT food
Yet somehow there is still a world of people who think most ukkies want to give up, I mean, you have republican senators literally telling everyone ukkies should give up their land while Zelinsky government nowadays is basically "GIVE US MORE WEAPONS TO KILL THEM ALL".
No wonder most end up coping by saying it's CIA psyops or the reptilians.
>If T90s are that close to Bradleys this means that the Ukrainian front collapsed.
Nah, it's Stepove. Russia has been throwing tanks and IFVs at it for several weeks now. Each time they get beat back only to try again with more mobiks.
>huge city and industrial mine
it's an uninhabited pile of rubble that used to have 30000 people before the war lmao
what absolute pure /k/ino:
>first chadley drive-by
>second chadley firing HEIT away on treeline on top right
>third chadley rolls up and savages the t-90
>cluster munitions going off on the left
jesus christ, these are straight up murder zones
vatnigs are getting farmed in this area lmao
It's like watching a pack of wolves attack a bison or a muskox.
Bait or desperate cope? Too hard to tell with how pathetic Puccia has gotten.
The crew probably died from DU poisoning.
The Russian crew probably literally burnt to death inside of the tank if they really did use DU because of how DU works.
Looks like they were using HE, given that the missed shots exploded.
The eggs are being measured and soon everyone will know everything.
Meh, I am tired of Bradley shit. Can we get some other footage?
It’s just the best vehicle they have
They do have Abrams but no footage of any of them fighting
>Historical footage of the MBT pride of Russia in close combat with a 35yo American IFV for the first time.
>Buuhhh boring get better material
To be fair the T90M is just a reskinned T-72 which is also extremely old. But yea anytime a MBT gets BTFOd by a IFV is hilarious.
First it was the BTR-4 mogging T-72s. Now it's the Bradley's turn.
>the MBT pride of Russia
wouldn't that be the Armata?
and before you say it has zero operational history, that's precisely the reason why
I don't know shit about tanks, isn't the whole point of a tank that it can't be destroyed by smaller weapons like that? I don't get it, what is it that tanks are actually immune to?
any tankgays that can educate an ignorant anon? I want to enjoy these videos too but I have no idea wtf I am looking at lmao.
Armor thickness means nothing in this situation. That many rounds hitting a tank will frick up the optics/hydraulics and severely disorient the crew. Complete mission kill.
>That many rounds hitting a tank will frick up the optics/hydraulics and severely disorient the crew.
so it's just like bashing it into submission then? or do you mean they partially penetrate or something? like I said I don't know shit.
The crew can't see or hear anything properly after that barrage.
I see, so just how vulnerable are those optics and whatnot, could they be destroyed by something even weaker than this gun?
You won't get close enough to the tank to shoot into optics, but in the first months of the invasion there were stories, about snipers, who stopped tanks by shooting into optics
>You won't get close enough to the tank to shoot into optics,
Deliberately but saturation fire certainly ups the odds.
maybe something like.....a mobik with a shovel?
lol really? well damn that seems like a pretty serious achillies heel.
Not really. Normally there will be a minimum of 3 sights: a backup sight, a gunners and a commanders sight. The backup will be closed with bulletproof shutters unless its needed. The tank can blast you anywhere, while you have to carefully line up multiple perfect hits in a row.
It's the same concept as medieval plate armor. It's not about being 100% invincible, it's about being 90% which gives you an additional speed and risk advantage over an enemy.
The US should replace its entire abrams fleet with Bradleys
Tank commanders' have their own set of sights with independent turret controls so they take over aiming the gun if needed. Often gunners' have both a primary and a backup sight. And the commander and driver have vision blocks which at least allow them to see their surroundings even if the rest of the optics and sensors are disabled.
Same energy.
/r/ing Saddam Hussein
If they were using the APFSDS rounds it wouldn't be unreasonable to assume the crew was fricked by spalling. The constant rotating of the turret at the end makes it seem like they're not having a good time either way.
Every tank since the beginning of its invention has had heavy armor in the front and shitty thin armor on the back and the sides. Bradleys surrounded it so it had not choice to expose its weaker parts of its armor. Even the strongest tanks in the world can be killed by simply blowing up the tracks with a tiny gun then targeting it with artillery while it is immobilized. Tanks are meant to face their targets not away from them
Source: War Thunder
But according to /k/ all those hamas RPG hits on the sides and asses of merkavas never penetrate...
Because RPGs are not good enough to pen a Merkava
Depends on the warhead and yes some of them penetrate merkavas, we like it or not.
That’s because of the ERA panels. ERA is designed to defeat shaped charges for the most part, it’s not good at defeating kinetic penetrators (modern Russian ERA was supposed to be better at this but we’ve seen how well that went in practice)
You mean APS, not ERA, anon.
Not every single part of the tank can be armored against auto cannon fire. Each part of the armor has a certain protection level. The sides, top and back are usually more vulnerable. There are many ways to kill a tank, by physically destroying it, killing its crew, or disabling tracks or another system it needs to do its job.
That tank took 30 hits to the side at close range from an armor piercing auto cannon, at least one round probably found a weak spot and penetrated and killed the gunner and possibly the driver and commander too. The spinning and aimless driving is most likely their bodies lying on the controls.
Every time a piece of armour takes a hit it gets weaker, hit the same piece of armour enough times and practically anything will get through
Could you defeat side armor by punching it enough times?
Hydraulics are inside but they'll frick up any external optics they or the spall from the hits impact. To damage hydraulics requires penning hull or turret.
How good are Russian spall liners or is the crew expected to catch spall with their (flammable due to vodka) bodies? If those rounds spall at every hit even a thicc liner could fail. Should that happen it's like wooden warships perforating gunners with wood splinters.
Sp. Outside the frontal arc, the T62/72/80/90 has a hull thickness varying from 45mm to 80mm. That's good enough to stop large artillery fragments at close range, or many kinds of autocannons firing at a bad angle or single shot or old ammunition, but it's not going to do much against sustained modern autocannon fire.
>but it's not going to do much against sustained modern autocannon fire.
so what actually makes it fail? the armor gets progressively weakened from being pounded repeatedly?
Yes it is getting fricked up worse and worse the more it is hit
Sometimes, but also because the armor isn't perfectly flat all over; there are thin spots, holes cut in for optics or axles or the turret ring etc and spamming shots until a few dig through a thin spot is a valid tactic.
This sort of happens with ERA, as each block can only absorb one hit due to its nature, but it’s not as much of a thing with the actual steel hull armor, although it does get weakened after repeated hits. You’re not going to penetrate a tank by shooting the same spot 1,000 times with 9mm or anything though. The side armor just isn’t that great on most tanks since doctrinally they’re never supposed to be pointing anything except their front towards the enemy. They’re never supposed to get this close either so obviously many things went wrong in the video
tanks are just for dick measuring and bullying irregular infantry (just pray they don't have western rpg's)
Tamks are not immune to anything, even small arms fire can hinder a tank if it is accurate and well placed
What tanks are is fast, armoured and packing a genuinely exceptional amount of fire-power
There are many things on the modern battlefield can kill a tank, but there is literally nothing in the ground forces of any nation on earth that can actually survive being directly engaged by the main gun of a modern tank.
In short the tank is the apex predator of ground combat, it is the armoured fighting vehicle that every other armoured fighting vehicle aspires to be, but it is most definitely NOT invincible
25mm isn't exactly a small weapon, at the very least the crew is basically having a bomb go off besides their head every second so that can disorient or concuss the crew. and a lucky shot from an armor penetrating round in a weak spot in the armor can do serious damage.
also Russia is notorious for lying about their equipment's capabilities. so this isn't all that surprising, but it is still humiliating.
Russian tank design is slapdash and lazy. A "cargo cult" of industrial design. Same with their BMP and BTR series.
In the T-series tank case: all their tanks have small turrets composed of two layers. Innermost is a simple steel dome, which was already reaching its limit toward the end of WW2. Around this simple steel dome is a hollow wedge, which mounts blocks of "explosive-reactive armor" (ERA).
ERA is usually only good for countering one hit, because as the name suggests, it blows itself up to make a counter-shockwave against the incoming attack.
Well, the M242 Bushmaster 25mm autocannon has an easy time landing consecutive hits in around the same spot. So it chews through the Russians' lazy bolt-on armor scheme.
The reason why Western tanks tend to look CHONKY in comparison to most T-series is that they're a dense block of stuff. A lot to chew through, at least horizontally. Not so much bolt-on façades.
Wrong, improved Urals had some kind of ceramic armor added to the cheeks and more modern cast turrets do have NERA arrays, as do modern welded turrets. They just have limited coverage focused entirely on the frontal arc with the sides of the turret being plain RHA + ERA.
welded turret, note the almost complete lack of protection on the rear and sides.
I'm the first anon you answered. Thanks, you saved me a lot of time, learning that. Good picture too.
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SECOND
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SECOND TO NONE.
God damnit, this war is turning me into a fan of this little guy.
BRADLEY --
second to none
SECOND TO NONE!
MOBIKS ARE GONE!
WHITE BRAD
HOLY GRAIL
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Who would win? One vatBlack person shit bucket, or a belt of these cheeky lil' guys?
Reformer-bros... I don't think we're going to be able to meme about the Chadley anymore...
The M119 with a recoilless rifle taped on top would have performed better. PROVE ME WRONG.
>Kelsey Grammer
>Cary Elwes
how did I not know about this? definitely gotta watch it now
Nah, we'll just make a new version but about RUSSIAN tanks.
I fricking hate you Americans.
Right now I want to kick your fricking heads and step on them.
You bastards have been telling us that the Bradley was a mistake and underperformed everywhere. For two decades.
APOLOGIZE
>you Americans
Sorry, you're thinking of fifth columnists. Easy mistake to make, you understand
Anyone telling you that the Bradley is shit either wants to sell your country the next best thing or is a dirty tankie.
Anything with a promo vid as /k/ino as the Bradley's cannot possibly be bad
The denizens of the People's Republic of Berkely and the likes aren't americans, they are fifth columnists who should be thrown in the middle of some nork woods so they can enjoy the realities of communism.
I know you’re in here, and how badly you want to name me. The actions of this chadley are a shield. You lost, you’re the schizo
>armor was a meme all along
the endless garbage spewing from tankies endured throughout the years is finally at an end
>BLYAT, IT'S THE WHITE BRADLEY!
Now that 25mm has been confirmed to be the best general purpose infantry fighting vehicle round will the suicide rate in Sweden skyrocket?
Is it possible the turret spin was just caused by the rotating mechanism being damaged or is it more likely the guy controlling it was turned into paste?
>Armatard gets back from whatever shilling hole he fell into during the houthi attack
>Is now back to shit up the board
It's just so obvious. Why can't you just be human instead of this obvious low effort baiting sperg.
You think armatard posted a video of a Bradley killing a t-90? May I hear the schizo reasoning behind this
All right this is it. Were 12 days into the year 2024 and this is it.
Absolute fricking state or Uralvagonzavod piece of fricking shits.
Mods might as well sticky the thread and play World Beater on loop
CV90 bros
Sekrit dokument failed me again
what was it
now that the dust has settled, can we agree the M2 Bradley is the best IFV in the world. Might as well just cancel OMFV and build more Bradley's
This is a fair statement to make. Bradley isn’t going anywhere for a long time. We will see them serve all over the world for the next 50 years at least. The US will hand these things out like candy when their new IFV gets delivered.
Talking to yourself is never a sign of mental stability.
Pretending to be moronic?
LIKE A RECORD BABY RIGHT ROUND RIGHT ROUND
Byotiful, how will t90 gays recover
>I SET MY SIGHTS ON YOU
>(AND NO ONE ELSE WILL DO)
>AND I
>I'VE GOTTA HAVE MY WAY NOW BABYYYYYY
kino kino kino kino
I knew that there was something spicy on the catalog the moment I saw the usual "recruitment crisis" thread pop up.
Jesus how did he get it so right? HIMARS, stinger, the Bradley. It’s like he could see into the future.
it's amazing and awesome to see in real time. All the shit talking and dick swinging by the slavs and they get BTFOd. Much like throughout history even Napoleonic times, Western Forces are superior, just a fact.
25>>>40 bofors
how did this little spicey meatball do it
1200 rounds on tap helos
webms like this show me how greatfull I am for what I have and for not being russian, as well.
I cannot believe how overhyped Russia was. We heard all through the 2000's how scary Russia was and how their tech was totally just as good as ours and their soldiers were all elite super soldiers.
And what happens when they actually pick a fight with someone backed by NATO? They get slaughtered in droves. I can't believe how American politicians, Republicans and Democrats alike, expected us to be afraid of these morons.
They have been terrible literally for centuries. Nappy BTFOd them MANY times. They always talk shit then tuck tail. It's literally their DNA. Alexander and the many Tsars they have had literally just built on the backs of peasants. It's like feudal age while everyone else was in the enlightenment era.
Also they only survived the german onslaught during ww2 because they had massive allied lend lease literally keeping them afloat.
Yep. They would have literally been throwing bodies with hand to hand combat with machine guns, literally. They would rather burn their own shit than be taken alive. They're like fricking bugs, or bacteria.
even the shit they made themselves was largely made using factories and infrastructure that was built for them by Americans pre war, the stalingrad tractor plant was literally built by Ford lmao.
a nation thats living on foreign gibs and prone to chimpouts.jap anon was right.
>literally
>literally
>literally
cover your tracks better, bro
I knew russian armor was inferior, but this completely surpassed my expectations, when I read that a bradley destroyed a t-90 I instantly imagined it must've used those anti tank missiles, but they actually did it with a fricking 25mm cannon LMAO. Any modern western tank, hell, even a Leopard 1 would shrug that off.
Thinks are not looking good for tankies rn
Frontally, sure. From the side Leo-1, even 2 would struggle depending on the variant and location hit with a long burst like that. 25 mm APFSDS does not frick around
The tank itself might shrug it off, but that thing got fricking hosed down for minutes straight and crewmen are still just fragile little meat blobs that don't really enjoy having their brains concussed to frick. I wouldn't want to be inside even a fortified bunker during that.
Is there anywhere I can find all of the Bradley /k/ino in one place? Are there any geek anons that would spend time on amassing a brad folder
It's like my Gundam anime irl.
Imagine the gore when tiny jets of 25mm pen your hull and turret ring.
I remember you vatnick fricks saying that there was no way that a bradley could pen a T72 point blank like that gunner said he did in iraq.
Frick you.
Feels good doesn't it? If anything solely to shit on Russians having talked shit about American hardware is good enough a reason to send Ukrainians hardware after giving them good training. Hope they can propagate the training from the current crews once the next aid package passes.
James burtonbros…
Nigel killed himself
>muh monkey models
>muh stupid arabs
>muh air superiority
>muh flat desert
Vatsisters, I'm replying this video over and over but I can't find any of those. Why is Bradley still mogging us?
I want to see Ace Bradley vs T-55 now. No mercy
What ammunition you reckon they used? Judging by the inciedary/explosive effects sometimes occurring on some shots and not on some I'd guess he alternated between apfsds and HE rounds. But I wonder why one would do that, instead of just going full blast on the DU/tungsten AP rounds? Is it possible he used the HE purposely just to beat the optics quicker?
>Is it possible he used the HE purposely just to beat the optics quicker?
It’s not only possible, it’s probable
I don't know if it was SAPHEI-T as picrel but it's plausible there is benefit to firing HEI-T rounds for increased incindiery and explosion effects
The best IFV the west has. Always has been
That's not the CV90.
>west
Implying the east has anything in competition
the type 89 looks neat
M2a7 on mars can’t wait
I hate that I find russian tanks aesthetically pleasing but they're in fact complete junk, same with their airplanes, such kino designs wasted because it's made by literal morons. frick.
I like seeing the wienerpits to old migs and the layouts just making 0 sense
I want to see what the inside of the Su-57 looks like. I wonder if it still has that same old Soviet RWR.
occasionally vatniks will cope about this and claim it’s “easier to understand quickly” or something
Just look at it, were it in any other circumstances youd be getting praised or nominated for awards when it comes to artistic design and worldbuilding.
But alas, its a RWR indicator on a POS MiG-29/35, not a Working Joe detector in a game of Alien Isolation.
I hate reality.
Russian aircraft are actually avionicly outstanding. The thing is, their radars and weaponry are still from the 80s/90s. We don't do dogfights anymore.
SlavCore Military Aesthetics definitely have a certain inspired form to them that struggles to break through the myriad layers of corruption and incompetence.
IS IT THE COMMANDER IN THE WHITE BRADLEY AGAIN?
SECOND TO NONE!
>"Those who have laid eyes on a Bradley shall not live to tell about it. Those were the orders I was given." - Trowa Barton
I will just keep calling the white one Gundam.
It's pretty good at turning Reds into comets.
2024 has been such a busy year so far in regards to American superiority. I’m still sitting on a whole new lineup of threads but more Ameri/k/ino is released every day. I haven’t gotten to even bring up romanias massive HIMARS order or the brand new stinger orders from Germany, Italy, and the Netherlands
Jesus, even the smoke deployment at 0:22 looks sloppy and shitty. Lots of big gaps where you can see right through.
b-but what about that image of the bradleys a few months ago?
anything can die to artillery
status of the White Bradley when this all went down
I have an unfinished m2a2 ODS kit. I’m going to dig it out and make myself a white Bradley
USA should really upgun the bradley into baneblade size, paint it white and send it to ukraine
>T-90 loses to a Bradley
Not that surprising
>T-90 lost to the Bradley's auto-cannon
FRICKING KEK
>Bradley redeemed
>Yemen getting glassed
>Chinese are still seething
It's been a great week to be a Westerner, friends
I want to hear the sounds the t-90m crew heard when Bradley hit it.
Next thread is ready since this hit 300+ so quickly
Awesome
T-90M should be downgraded to BR8ish, maybe lower since a panzer 3F and higher should be able to knock it out via hits to the front armor.