>be the MiG-31 'Foxhound'
>be fast as fucc and fly high
>can carry long range R-37 and R77 missiles
>shot down a fair amount of Ukrainian aircraft from afar
>uses its range, speed, and altitude to avoid being intercepted
>is actually a threat and being utilized properly
Like, after hearing many countless news of Russia's incompetence and failures, I'm quite surprised that there's something working as intended and being used properly. I mean, sure, it isn't going to change the tide of war but its odd to hear that this aircraft isn't as shit, unlike its predecessor the MiG-25.
The Mig-31 supposedly fixes a bunch of stuff that the Mig-25 had it wrong.
Mainly the engine now don't melt when on full throttle.
>Mainly the engine now don't melt when on full throttle.
Because they locked the throttle to like 80% LMAO
>Mainly the engine now don't melt when on full throttle.
Two engine explosions in the last few months
Engine still melts at max BUT the pilots don't use 100%
Lots of other stuff has been upgraded though, (radar, materials etc).
"Russia is corrupt" is just a meme, its only true when it comes to the public sector but when it comes to the military, Russia is less corrupt then NATO.
>when it comes to the military, Russia is less corrupt then NATO.
So much truth.
Rumors of ammo, uniforms, fuel and food being stolen by officers are liés :
They never even purchased the supply to begin with.
And they didn't steal the budgets Monet : they allocated it where it was the most economically efficient so as to provide maximum future value for Motherland's defense.
Since the yachts and datchas market were on the rise, this was a smart décision.
All these villas in Italy ans Southern France would have been sold for a huge profit and much more supply if Putin's perfidious advisers had warned thé army sooner about the SMO, we swear.
Let me list you all the things Russia got since Putin took office when it comes to the military.
>S500
>S550 Prometheus
>Armata
>Su 57
>Su 75 checkmate
>modernization of the nuclear arsenal
>Upgraded Stockpiles of tanks
>Fixed Admiral Kuznetsov
> RS-28 Sarmat
>Better generals
i fricking love that list anon
truely a terrifying list, I john Budweiser from the mizzizzippi oblast personally believe, that, at this time of war, the decadent American government should cease all support to the so called ukraine and use those savings to help glorious Russia's accent to the 2nd holy roman empire as a sign of peace and understanding
hello i am ryan smith from state of the ohio administrated division and am would like add to this that evil american empire [i am from] is weak comparison to russia, unyited staytes should cease all evil aide to 'ukraine
>better generals?
do you mean all the ones that have been killed?
THOSE generals?
>upgraded stockpiles of tanks
ah yes. yes. the ol' lightening upgrade where you take the engine and wiring out and sell it to china, mmmmmm yes.
>fixed admiral Kuznetsov
ah yes, final preparations are made for the permanent submersible conversion, YES!
>RS-S8
OH yes... the NOOOOKS! I am SURE you will use it lmao. TOTALLY.
>SU-57
your "stealth fighter" that gets shot down by manpads and collides with its fellow vatBlack folk?
lol
>Su-75
lmao
literal vaporware that isnt out and likely will be the same wunderwaffen as the
>armata
and you aren't gonna be able to make either without the western parts you were relying on.
meanwhile some key facilities in your research and manufacture got burned to the fricking ground.
How much development is gonna happen when your top aerospace institute is literal ashes?
fricking moron, it's bait
That is still better then NATO.
>"Russia is corrupt" is just a meme
Absolutely delusional
So the US and their 31 trillion dollar debt isn't corrupt? nice logic.
>Be corrupt US business man
>"Yes, these $10 uniforms actually costs $15!"
>Laugh evilly as you walk to the bank
>Military gets uniforms
>Be corrupt Russian business man
>"Da, these 100₽ uniforms will be delivered!"
>SBlack person moronicly as you shamble to the bank
>Military gets no uniforms
The US spent over a trillion dollars on a plane that crashes and isnt that good.
Why are countries begging to be allowed to buy it, anon?
Before anon replies:
>US forced them
Common line with no proof. France have been caught doing it tho.
Only US allies that don't want to upset their leader. You have to remember when Erdogan tried to improve his countries military by buying Russian made equipment, the new world order basically destroyed the Turkish economy as punishment.
Russian equipment is dog shit. Even when it works as intended it doesn't do a very good job. We're watching it happen in real time
Russia is using their weaker equipment because Putin is trying to save the good equipment for future wars.
>the good equipment
All 4 units of it?
A good equipment is a force multiplier and can do jobs efficiently. If that's their status of being some kind of a holy grail then it's not much useful.
The same Erdogan chimping out because we wont sell him F35s? Is that really the example you want to use?
Erdogan doesn't believe in the same economics laws as the rest of the planet. It turns out you can dictate to your employees and citizens all you like, you can't force the global markets to participate in your delusion.
>The US spent over a trillion dollars on a plane
Proof?
it wants to play 🙂
>8 years ago
That's not proof that the US SPENT 1 trillion dollars on the F-35. Can I see the proof where 1 trillion has been SPENT?
I counter your 8 year old youtube link with my 1 year old youtube link
$1 Trillion is for the entire project development costs over the entire life of the plane which isn't that much considering how many aircraft are going to be built. I'm reading Sharky Ward's book rn and unsurprisingly the Sea Harrier was shat on, underestimated and sneered at from the late 70s until 1982.
Then it won an entire war, proved it could perform multirole strike missions even at night with complex TOT and is undefeated in air combat 23-0 including killing 2 Mirage IIIEs over the space of about 3-4 dogfights despite the mirage holding all the cards.
[citation needed]
For what, exactly?
for which the $1 Trillion being the whole life cost of the F-35 or on the Mirage III getting assraped and wasting loads of 530s trying to shoot down harriers?
>despite the mirage holding all the cards.
All aspect sidewinders are a hell of a gamechanger... see War Blunder where A-10 and Su-25 rape their BR solely because they are using AIM-9Ls and R-60Ms in a tier bracket where everything else is AIM-9Gs at best
Lol lmao. They didn't spent that amount already.
The USA spends a trillion dollars on blocks of cheeselike foodstuff for Black folk. USA don't give a frick
Sir! Good of the mornings to you, good sir!
Is it time for another glavset circlejerk? Look at the office's wiener replying to herself.
I (
) didnt write that (
) post.
You wanna know why i love that list?
Because everything on that list is a failure that can be directly pinpointed to putin.
The biggest win of "the west" with this 1year ongoing 3 day smo is that finally putin dropped his charade and showed himself what he really is.
a mass murderer rightfully compared to stalin and or hitler. At least stalin allthough he was super uneducated knew when not to attack, seems like putin read the wrong pages of his diary.
There's no goverment in history that wasnt corrupt
Yes the money that was supposed to be used to maintain the entirety of Russia's military just disappeared on it own and not into oligarchs pockets.
you shits literally gutted your reserve tanks for scrap and sold it on the side lmao.
They spent 1.5 trillion dollars preparing for this war and lost. I don't think we've ever seen corruption of this scale.
Why not 15 trillion?
Right, thats why they have all those working NODs, encrypted communications, and rust-free aks
>26%
>of the official numbers
What is problem, Vanya?
All countries have some secret money.
That's easy to explain anon, it's the revenue from selling a crusty old nuke or two every year to North Korea so they can maintain the facade of a success nuclear program in exchange for 150mm artillery shells.
>26%
>Russians finally use something as intended
HATO sisters...I'm panicking, what if they use palettes correctly?
Almost everyone can use palettes correctly. More surprised they can actually use their weapons platforms correctly, unlike some incidents with the tanks and AA platforms.
>shitskin too stupid to catch the intentional misspelling
>just copypastes it and hope it'll get paid anyways
Uh oh stinky!
First hour on /k/, I see. It's a magical place.
>when it comes to the military Russia is less corrupt then NATO
>Russia is less corrupt than anything
>in any way
ha
I'm not giving a (you), homosexual, but I do think it is worth note I found that a hoot. Good job.
Russia used to be corrupt but Putin managed to fix 90% of the corruption, this is why the Bilderberg Group and the WEF are trying to destroy Russia, its because they are afraid someone like Putin will come in European countries and fix corruption by puting oligarchs under control.
alright, have a (You)
He didn't fix corruption, he just institutionalized it
There is a video of Putin demanding the oligarch give him back his pen, and the oligarch was scared shitless. In america presidents bow down to Bill gates and Mark Zuckerberg or Jeff Bezos.
No they dont
Absolute midwit who fell for the propaganda. You're like a 14 year old boy impressed with displays of dominance, kek.
Kid, stop listening to those 'alpha male' homosexuals
They don't understand how the world actually works
Also that clip was 1,000% scripted
The worst part is we can't be sure if this is obvious satire or utter delusion.
The only question is why did it take so long for them to remember that they have working post-80s interceptors with BVR missiles.
>Putin managed to fix 90% of the corruption,
Putin is 90% of the corruption
No:
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-russia-capitalism-health-special-repo/special-report-billion-dollar-medical-project-helped-fund-putins-palace-idINBREA4K0D220140521
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2022/04/26/vladimir-putin-personal-wealth-russian-sanctions/7169364001/
Question if he's not corrupt, how did Putin afford a a palace worth 1.4 billion usd when his official declared income is arond 100K USD?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Putin%27s_Palace
No you moron it literally just comes down to
>Russia has BVR missiles
>Ukraine doesn't
Like wtf are they supposed to do? Loiter over Moscow?
This.
Hence why UA getting even a squadron of F-16's armed with AIM-120's would flip the playing field.
But as it stands, RU has very much neutralized it.
More stuff to shoot down their own aircraft with.
You're embarrassing, you finally hit something that isn't your own launcher and your pathologic liar complex forces you to blame it on them. It's like watching a schizophrenic eat his own hand, except more baffling somehow.
>It's like watching a schizophrenic
Piggers really are masters of irony.
>NO U
Kacaps truly enjoy unmatched wit.
ShIt. Tatiana was hot.
>Tatiana was hot.
Shame for the mechanic. The politicians can all burn for all I care.
F-16s all have a secret shutdown switch to keep clients from turning against the USA.
It's not only the lack of BVR missiles, Ukraine doesn't have AWACS either to track air targets and guide those BVR missiles from afar.
The current meta is long range missile + AWACS, dogfights are irrelevant now
Neither does Russia, or Ukraine wouldn't have an air force, and we would get more than unsubstantiated rumors from Russian pilots.
Ukraine literally has to fly Its plane grazing the ground just to not get shot down:
https://mil.in.ua/en/news/russian-a-50-aew-c-plane-arrived-in-belarus/
https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/a-mig-29-pilots-inside-account-of-the-changing-air-war-over-ukraine
And the only thing they can do is just lob unguided rockets. This is why even If they get JDAM's they wouldn't be able to use It since they're gravity bombs and require altitude
>And the only thing they can do is just lob unguided rockets. This is why even If they get JDAM's they wouldn't be able to use It since they're gravity bombs and require altitude
yeah nah m8 just toss that c**t and you can get like plenty standoff
And, yet, they still fly. Why? I thought Russian R-37Ms, and R-77s were BTFO of them?
>And the only thing they can do is just lob unguided rockets.
That's because they're using shit Russian gear.
>And the only thing they can do is just lob unguided rockets.
Wait, if thus was caused by Russian superior AWACS why are RUSSIAN planes in CAS role flying low to the ground and doing nothing but lobbing unguided rockets?
Because they can't afford to build more.
LOFT attack profile lol. They continue attacking the same way but with increased accuracy and effect
>Ukraine doesn't have AWACS
3 AWACS are in the air 24/7 in Poland or Romania
They can't send targeting data to Ukraine's Mig-29's or Su-27's for launching their Fox-3's
Just send F-16
>shot down a fair amount of Ukrainian aircraft from afar
No, it hasn't. You keep making the same fricking thread, and get BTFO each time. Why?
https://desuarchive.org/k/thread/56781493/
https://desuarchive.org/k/thread/56780424/
https://desuarchive.org/k/thread/56834198/
>Russian fighters have remained highly effective and lethal against Ukrainian aircraft near the frontlines throughout the war, especially the Su-35S with the R-77-1 long-range missile
>Throughout the war, Russian fighters have frequently been able to achieve a radarlock and launch R-77-1 missiles at Ukrainian fighters from over 100 km away. Even though such shots have a low probability of kill, they force Ukrainian pilots to go defensive or risk being hit while still far outside their own effective range, and a few such long-range shots found their mark.
25. Author interview D.
26. Ibid.; author interview H; and inspection of recovered R-77-1 and R-27 missiles, Ukraine, October
2022.
27. Author interview D; and author interview G. Supported by footage released by the Russian
Ministry of Defence showing three R-77-1s being launched by an Su-35 flying at Mach 1.1 and
around 33,000 ft with a launch acceptable region (LAR) indicator on the heads-up-display showing
around 75 km at the start of the clip. Since missile effective range is proportional to launch
altitude and speed, as well as target aspect and speed, an Su-35 flying faster than Mach 1.1 at, for
example, 40,000 ft+ (well within its performance capabilities) could easily have an LAR in excess
of 100 km against a low-flying closing target. Footage accessible at Fighter Bomber, Telegram,
1 June 2022, <https://t.me/fighter_bomber/7432>;;, accessed 30 October 2022. Alternatively,
see Rob Lee, ‘Video of a Russian SU-35S fighter launching R-77 air-to-air missiles at an aerial
target’, Twitter post, <https://twitter.com/RALee85/status/1532831958757261313?s=20&t=lI2-
hY07Jky1C4dTnfeWTg>, accessed 30 October 2022.
Where are the kills?
1/3
>Despite these disadvantages, aggressive Ukrainian tactics and good use of the low-level terrain
during the first days of the invasion led to multiple claims and several likely kills against Russian
aircraft, although Ukrainian fighters were often shot down or damaged in the process.32 After
three days of skirmishing in which both sides lost aircraft, there was a notable pause in Russian
strike and fighter sorties venturing deep behind Ukrainian lines, which lasted for several days.
>32. Author interview D. There is significant uncertainty about the number of kills scored during air-to-air
engagement in this period since overclaiming on both sides undoubtedly occurred and some aircraft
would have come down in areas controlled by Russian forces in remote wooded areas or in water.
As such, they were not confirmed at the time. However, as Ukrainian forces liberate more territory,
Russian aircraft wrecks continue to be discovered, such as an Su-30SM fighter with tail number RF81773 (bort number ‘Red 62’) was also discovered near Izyum in September. See Ukraine Weapons
Tracker, Twitter post, 12 September 2022, <https://twitter.com/UAWeapons/status/15692754803
43281665?s=20&t=V2ECIykC9C6E8oxIaZaqfA>, accessed 30 October 2022. Another example is an
Su-34 frontal bomber with tail number RF-81852 (bort number ‘Red 09’) discovered near Lyman in
early October. See Ukraine Weapons Tracker, Twitter post, 2 October 2022, <https://twitter.com/
UAWeapons/status/1576565672838303745?s=20&t=Y2306EbNHHYJP5YTcJyUlQ>, accessed 30
October 2022.
2/2
>in recent months, the Mig-31BM with the R-37 very long-range missile.
>However, these patrols have proven highly effective against Ukrainian attack aircraft and fighters, with the Mig-31BM and R-37M long-range airto-air missile being especially problematic. The VKS has been firing up to six R-37Ms per day during October, and the extremely high speed of the weapon, coupled with very long effective range and a seeker designed for engaging low-altitude targets, makes it particularly difficult to evade.76 The long range of the R-37M, in conjunction with the very high performance and high operating altitude of the Mig-31BM also allows it significant freedom to menace Ukrainian aircraft near the frontlines from outside the range of Ukrainian defences.
71. Author interview D; and author interview G. Supported by multiple examples of footage, including
WarLeaks - Military Blog, ‘Russian Pilot Ejecting From Shot Down SU-25 At Extreme Low Altitude’,
YouTube, 23 October 2022, <https://youtu.be/34-4D-MmR4I>;;, accessed 28 October 2022; Global
Intel, ‘Watch A Russian SU-25 Jet Getting Shot Down By Ukrainian MANPAD’, YouTube, 7 September
2022, <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m1tbOKfppNY>;;, accessed 28 October 2022.
76. Author interview D. In addition, the author conducted an examination of recovered R-37M missile
sections that had been recently fired in Ukraine, October 2022.
>MiG-31 crews, flying high-altitude defensive patrols along the ever-shifting front lines and firing powerful Vympel R-37M air-to-air missiles, in recent weeks apparently have shot down several Ukrainian jets. The Ukrainians’ own fighters and missiles lack the speed, range and altitude performance to fight back effectively.
>in recent weeks apparently have shot down several Ukrainian jets
>apparently
3/3
Your source: https://rusi.org/explore-our-research/publications/special-resources/russian-air-war-and-ukrainian-requirements-air-defence
>R-77-1 long-range missile
Reminder that r77 is a joke. https://medium.com/war-is-boring/russias-most-feared-air-to-air-missile-is-actually-kind-of-a-dud-ebebe8b28f4f
>https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/a-mig-29-pilots-inside-account-of-the-changing-air-war-over-ukraine
>It seems, however, that the Ukrainians have found means to at least reduce the threat posed by the R-37M. As Juice stressed: “Fortunately, the tactical aviation [branch] can avoid that and it didn’t perform any great results [against them]. Because we understood their tactics during the engagement of this missile, we created our own techniques to help to avoid that.
So, they haven't done shit.
Now, wait an hour or day and remake it.
because they follow the rules russia escalates in stages.
What rules? Their bluffs get called over and over, simple as
I thought MiGgers were always considered to be decent planes, no?
29's are budget SU's, 31's are part of an obsolete niche the west abandoned many many years ago. the 31 are really cool looking planes, and going fast is based.
Can anyone provide a single confirmed Mig-31 A2A kill?
Imagine having to live with yourself after you, through no fault of your own, cause the death of a bunch of your buddies
ON TIME
UNDER BUDGET
>ON TIME
UNDER BUDGET
>UNDER BUDGET
ON TIME
B O M B I N G T H E F U T U R E
Why have I not heard a peep of news from this ever since it was unveiled?
not really too much to say, they unveiled a nonflying prototype. thing looked cool but after the hype died down there isn't much to talk about beyond speculating payload or additional capability.
The frick are you going to hear until it takes its first flight in June of this year? Nothing really to report on, just like when the B-2 rolled out. The only thing released since roll-out is that two airframes are complete, with four others in various states of production. One for roll-out, and one for ground tests, so far.
It's a stealth plane anon.
>By February 2022, six B-21s were under construction.
>The B-21 is expected to make its first flight in 2023 and enter service by 2027.
It's also not done yet.
>The first F-35A, designated AA-1, was rolled out at Fort Worth on 19 February 2006 and first flew on 15 December 2006.
>first entered service with the U.S. Marine Corps F-35B in July 2015
It's only under budget because they fudged it by working on the RQ180 first before making it manned.
The RQ-180 has little in common with the B-21 besides being a lambda wing design, and being built by NG. Yeah, the experience helps, though, you could say the same for the B-2. The B-21 is basically a scaled down version of the original ATB proposal from NG before the redesign that gave us the B-2. The RQ180 lineage comes from NG's SensorCraft proposal that I've posted about before. I could go into it again, if there's interest. It's a fricking beast.
Long range BVR Interceptor is the future of air combat. Since the 6th NGAD requirements is literally for a long range interceptor & stealth, dogfight performance is irrelevant since you can just shoot down enemy fighter long before they get within visual range
it helps that Ukraine has no fox 3's and are politically barred from attacking targets in Russia even though by all reasonable notion of self defence under intl law they have the right to.
>shot down a fair amount of Ukrainian aircraft from afar
Can I see them?
>Turns out Mig is much superior than Sukhoi
revive Mig-35 pls
Apperently the Russians are using the Mig-31 effectively, but not like it was intended. It's designed as a high speed, high altitude interceptor, not a bomb/missile truck.
That said, I absolutely love the Mig-31, I just wished it wasn't used in this unjust war.
People made fun of me when I said I liked MiG-25 and MiG-31, saying they're bricks that melt mid-flight and can only shoot down slow strategic bombers.
I feel validated now that it's the only aircraft Russia made that seems to work out for them.
What has it shot down, exactly?
Nothing surprising or new to me. I'm a DCSgay lurking in /vg/simg/ (the place where that USA vs USSR fighter meme was made BTW). Years ago already we knew that the MiG-25 was the only fighter without a negative K/D (it's 1:1). The MiG-31 tones down the speed a bit and adds a proper radar and missile complex copied from F-14. We already thought like the MiG-25 in Iraq, MiG-31 is the only Russian fighter/interceptor that has any chance at all to at least somewhat harass the American air rape from the distance once in a while.
The only reason for MIG-25's neutral K:D is the R-40RD and R-40TD missiles adopted in 1979 and used in Mig-25PD and Mig-31. These are different from the shitty basic variant of the missile and are significantly better than anything else that's in soviet inventory. The radar guided R-40RD was using an inverse monopulse guidance like the newest western missiles and the IR guided R-40TD was an all-aspect capable IR guided missile, similarly modern. The issue was that the missile had the range of an AIM-7E from 15 years prior(40km) and inferior to all the newer ones, meanwhile it was so big it was larger and heavier than AIM-54 Phoenix, more than twice the size of the Sparrow. It also wasn't at all maneuverable, unsurprising given that weight and range. Nonetheless, a good seeker good enough to defeat countermeasures and work reliably is still a capable weapon against unsuspecting targets and as an ambush tool. Still, technologically these missiles are very much soviet state of the art to this day as other, even later soviet missiles were pretty poor(aside from the R-73) and newer russian developments based on unfinished projects failed to materialize anywhere but advertising materials and/or are a total failure. The only unclear missile in this whole usual jumbled mess of soviet projects is the R-33, this missile's replacement but given unreliability of soviet radar it seems that at that range even the semi active homing was too much for soviet tech. I believe that many of the overhyped R-37's are actually R-33s in reality and their performance is nothing out of the line for soviet tech.
>The MiG-31 tones down the speed a bit and adds a proper radar and missile complex copied from F-14.
Technically, MIG-31 flied at similar speeds to the MIG-25 used in service as anything more trashed the engines. It also used afterburning turbofan engines for the first time for the soviets, massively boosting the subsonic range of the plane. The radar was also an inferior imitation rather than a copy of the AWG-9.
Its positive now actually
The K:D doesn't go up if the planes you shoot down are the same model.
nah i mean the commonly cited 1:1 kd doesnt include a handful of kills from iran iraq or the kill in the gulf war
Actually it does. The rest is unconfirmed bullshit you can stick up your vatBlack personlover ass.
why are you lying? why are you getting assblasted over a 50 year old airplane? the facts are important and the facts are that the list isnt perfect and a quick google search shows that the mig25 went 15:1 in iran iraq and 1:2 in the gulf war. if you can show me somewhere that annuls half of Iraqs claimed kills from iran iraq id be happy to shut up.
Lol, the liar accusing people of lying. Eat shit vatBlack person, nobody will recognize your flaming piece of shit plane.
what are you even talking about? who said anything about russia? why are you so hostile?
Don't bother. You can't fight those levels of butthurt.
Sorry your lies got called out. Hopefully you won't make a fool of yourself next time and won't have to resort to samegayging.
Is probably one of the most deadly aircraft in the world.
Imagine if the Mig31 was made in the US or France
It would be an obsolete one trick pony that'd go the way of A-10 at best.
US literally made a fighter interceptor that's got everything Mig-31 has cranked up to 11 that's also carrier based 7 years before soviets.
isn't that basically the F-14 or Tornado F3?
The tornado was German but I was thinking maybe the Mirage F1
well the interceptor version is British-Italian. was racking my brain trying to think what the French version of the F-14 is and I don't think they have them.
The F-1 is a very high and fast fighter that diced with and even shot down some F-14s but it's radar is just a very large monopulse that is longer range than some pulse dopplers of the time but has little look down ability.
The next French fighter was the Mirage 2000 which kind of skipped a generation and was a true 4th gen fighter not just a thicc 3.5 gen with a very good radar and missiles like the F-14, upgraded F-4s or the F3 Tornado.
The mirage has always been a multi role fighter not so much a inceptor maybe the Mirage III was the closest to the MIG31 in terms of its role
for the F1 at least its a case of all mirages are multirole but some are more multirole than others. for example the C is just an radionav only interceptor you can bolt bombs onto while for example an Iraqi EQ was fully multirole with an INS system, weapon release cues and guided weapons like ARM missiles and Exocets.
>ugliest plane Russia ever made
>happens to be the only effective one
I hate this gay war. That plane looks like a botoxed up crackprostitute.
Just look at this sleek beauty in comparison.
>UUHHHH IS ROSSIYA ACTUALLY.... WINNING?
Only on /chug/
>>shot down a fair amount of Ukrainian aircraft from afar
Complete fantasy.
There is 0 evidence beyond some westerner saying this tactic could work.
If russia actually was successful doing it youd think they constantly post videos of it.
Bvr only works if you know exactly what youre targeting and they dont know you are doing that.
I find it funny that Russia has spent literal decades boasting that BVR is a meme and the best fighter is one that can do flippy-doos and crawl up it’s own butthole at point blank range. And now that they’re actually going to war, all the maneuverability in the world can’t save them, and their best tactic is to yeet missiles from long range.
To be fair this tactic doesn't really save them either.