Something is actually working as intended?

>be the MiG-31 'Foxhound'
>be fast as fucc and fly high
>can carry long range R-37 and R77 missiles
>shot down a fair amount of Ukrainian aircraft from afar
>uses its range, speed, and altitude to avoid being intercepted
>is actually a threat and being utilized properly

Like, after hearing many countless news of Russia's incompetence and failures, I'm quite surprised that there's something working as intended and being used properly. I mean, sure, it isn't going to change the tide of war but its odd to hear that this aircraft isn't as shit, unlike its predecessor the MiG-25.

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  1. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    The Mig-31 supposedly fixes a bunch of stuff that the Mig-25 had it wrong.
    Mainly the engine now don't melt when on full throttle.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >Mainly the engine now don't melt when on full throttle.
      Because they locked the throttle to like 80% LMAO

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >Mainly the engine now don't melt when on full throttle.
      Two engine explosions in the last few months

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Engine still melts at max BUT the pilots don't use 100%

      Lots of other stuff has been upgraded though, (radar, materials etc).

  2. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    "Russia is corrupt" is just a meme, its only true when it comes to the public sector but when it comes to the military, Russia is less corrupt then NATO.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >when it comes to the military, Russia is less corrupt then NATO.
      So much truth.
      Rumors of ammo, uniforms, fuel and food being stolen by officers are liés :
      They never even purchased the supply to begin with.
      And they didn't steal the budgets Monet : they allocated it where it was the most economically efficient so as to provide maximum future value for Motherland's defense.
      Since the yachts and datchas market were on the rise, this was a smart décision.
      All these villas in Italy ans Southern France would have been sold for a huge profit and much more supply if Putin's perfidious advisers had warned thé army sooner about the SMO, we swear.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Let me list you all the things Russia got since Putin took office when it comes to the military.
        >S500
        >S550 Prometheus
        >Armata
        >Su 57
        >Su 75 checkmate
        >modernization of the nuclear arsenal
        >Upgraded Stockpiles of tanks
        >Fixed Admiral Kuznetsov
        > RS-28 Sarmat
        >Better generals

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          i fricking love that list anon

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          truely a terrifying list, I john Budweiser from the mizzizzippi oblast personally believe, that, at this time of war, the decadent American government should cease all support to the so called ukraine and use those savings to help glorious Russia's accent to the 2nd holy roman empire as a sign of peace and understanding

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            hello i am ryan smith from state of the ohio administrated division and am would like add to this that evil american empire [i am from] is weak comparison to russia, unyited staytes should cease all evil aide to 'ukraine

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >better generals?
          do you mean all the ones that have been killed?
          THOSE generals?
          >upgraded stockpiles of tanks
          ah yes. yes. the ol' lightening upgrade where you take the engine and wiring out and sell it to china, mmmmmm yes.
          >fixed admiral Kuznetsov
          ah yes, final preparations are made for the permanent submersible conversion, YES!
          >RS-S8
          OH yes... the NOOOOKS! I am SURE you will use it lmao. TOTALLY.
          >SU-57
          your "stealth fighter" that gets shot down by manpads and collides with its fellow vatBlack folk?
          lol
          >Su-75
          lmao
          literal vaporware that isnt out and likely will be the same wunderwaffen as the
          >armata
          and you aren't gonna be able to make either without the western parts you were relying on.
          meanwhile some key facilities in your research and manufacture got burned to the fricking ground.
          How much development is gonna happen when your top aerospace institute is literal ashes?

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            fricking moron, it's bait

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        That is still better then NATO.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >"Russia is corrupt" is just a meme
      Absolutely delusional

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        So the US and their 31 trillion dollar debt isn't corrupt? nice logic.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          "Russia is corrupt" is just a meme, its only true when it comes to the public sector but when it comes to the military, Russia is less corrupt then NATO.

          Russia used to be corrupt but Putin managed to fix 90% of the corruption, this is why the Bilderberg Group and the WEF are trying to destroy Russia, its because they are afraid someone like Putin will come in European countries and fix corruption by puting oligarchs under control.

          >Be corrupt US business man
          >"Yes, these $10 uniforms actually costs $15!"
          >Laugh evilly as you walk to the bank
          >Military gets uniforms

          >Be corrupt Russian business man
          >"Da, these 100₽ uniforms will be delivered!"
          >SBlack person moronicly as you shamble to the bank
          >Military gets no uniforms

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            The US spent over a trillion dollars on a plane that crashes and isnt that good.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              Why are countries begging to be allowed to buy it, anon?

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Before anon replies:
                >US forced them
                Common line with no proof. France have been caught doing it tho.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Only US allies that don't want to upset their leader. You have to remember when Erdogan tried to improve his countries military by buying Russian made equipment, the new world order basically destroyed the Turkish economy as punishment.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Russian equipment is dog shit. Even when it works as intended it doesn't do a very good job. We're watching it happen in real time

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Russia is using their weaker equipment because Putin is trying to save the good equipment for future wars.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >the good equipment
                All 4 units of it?

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                A good equipment is a force multiplier and can do jobs efficiently. If that's their status of being some kind of a holy grail then it's not much useful.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                The same Erdogan chimping out because we wont sell him F35s? Is that really the example you want to use?

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Erdogan doesn't believe in the same economics laws as the rest of the planet. It turns out you can dictate to your employees and citizens all you like, you can't force the global markets to participate in your delusion.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              >The US spent over a trillion dollars on a plane
              Proof?

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                it wants to play 🙂

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous
              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >8 years ago
                That's not proof that the US SPENT 1 trillion dollars on the F-35. Can I see the proof where 1 trillion has been SPENT?

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                I counter your 8 year old youtube link with my 1 year old youtube link

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                $1 Trillion is for the entire project development costs over the entire life of the plane which isn't that much considering how many aircraft are going to be built. I'm reading Sharky Ward's book rn and unsurprisingly the Sea Harrier was shat on, underestimated and sneered at from the late 70s until 1982.

                Then it won an entire war, proved it could perform multirole strike missions even at night with complex TOT and is undefeated in air combat 23-0 including killing 2 Mirage IIIEs over the space of about 3-4 dogfights despite the mirage holding all the cards.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                [citation needed]

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                For what, exactly?

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                for which the $1 Trillion being the whole life cost of the F-35 or on the Mirage III getting assraped and wasting loads of 530s trying to shoot down harriers?

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >despite the mirage holding all the cards.
                All aspect sidewinders are a hell of a gamechanger... see War Blunder where A-10 and Su-25 rape their BR solely because they are using AIM-9Ls and R-60Ms in a tier bracket where everything else is AIM-9Gs at best

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              Lol lmao. They didn't spent that amount already.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              The USA spends a trillion dollars on blocks of cheeselike foodstuff for Black folk. USA don't give a frick

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Sir! Good of the mornings to you, good sir!

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >when it comes to the military, Russia is less corrupt then NATO.
      So much truth.
      Rumors of ammo, uniforms, fuel and food being stolen by officers are liés :
      They never even purchased the supply to begin with.
      And they didn't steal the budgets Monet : they allocated it where it was the most economically efficient so as to provide maximum future value for Motherland's defense.
      Since the yachts and datchas market were on the rise, this was a smart décision.
      All these villas in Italy ans Southern France would have been sold for a huge profit and much more supply if Putin's perfidious advisers had warned thé army sooner about the SMO, we swear.

      Let me list you all the things Russia got since Putin took office when it comes to the military.
      >S500
      >S550 Prometheus
      >Armata
      >Su 57
      >Su 75 checkmate
      >modernization of the nuclear arsenal
      >Upgraded Stockpiles of tanks
      >Fixed Admiral Kuznetsov
      > RS-28 Sarmat
      >Better generals

      i fricking love that list anon

      Is it time for another glavset circlejerk? Look at the office's wiener replying to herself.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        I (

        Let me list you all the things Russia got since Putin took office when it comes to the military.
        >S500
        >S550 Prometheus
        >Armata
        >Su 57
        >Su 75 checkmate
        >modernization of the nuclear arsenal
        >Upgraded Stockpiles of tanks
        >Fixed Admiral Kuznetsov
        > RS-28 Sarmat
        >Better generals

        ) didnt write that (

        Let me list you all the things Russia got since Putin took office when it comes to the military.
        >S500
        >S550 Prometheus
        >Armata
        >Su 57
        >Su 75 checkmate
        >modernization of the nuclear arsenal
        >Upgraded Stockpiles of tanks
        >Fixed Admiral Kuznetsov
        > RS-28 Sarmat
        >Better generals

        ) post.
        You wanna know why i love that list?
        Because everything on that list is a failure that can be directly pinpointed to putin.
        The biggest win of "the west" with this 1year ongoing 3 day smo is that finally putin dropped his charade and showed himself what he really is.
        a mass murderer rightfully compared to stalin and or hitler. At least stalin allthough he was super uneducated knew when not to attack, seems like putin read the wrong pages of his diary.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      There's no goverment in history that wasnt corrupt

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Yes the money that was supposed to be used to maintain the entirety of Russia's military just disappeared on it own and not into oligarchs pockets.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      you shits literally gutted your reserve tanks for scrap and sold it on the side lmao.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      They spent 1.5 trillion dollars preparing for this war and lost. I don't think we've ever seen corruption of this scale.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Why not 15 trillion?

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Right, thats why they have all those working NODs, encrypted communications, and rust-free aks

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >26%
      >of the official numbers

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        What is problem, Vanya?
        All countries have some secret money.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        That's easy to explain anon, it's the revenue from selling a crusty old nuke or two every year to North Korea so they can maintain the facade of a success nuclear program in exchange for 150mm artillery shells.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >26%

  3. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >Russians finally use something as intended

    HATO sisters...I'm panicking, what if they use palettes correctly?

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Almost everyone can use palettes correctly. More surprised they can actually use their weapons platforms correctly, unlike some incidents with the tanks and AA platforms.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >shitskin too stupid to catch the intentional misspelling
        >just copypastes it and hope it'll get paid anyways
        Uh oh stinky!

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        First hour on /k/, I see. It's a magical place.

  4. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >when it comes to the military Russia is less corrupt then NATO
    >Russia is less corrupt than anything
    >in any way
    ha

    I'm not giving a (you), homosexual, but I do think it is worth note I found that a hoot. Good job.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Russia used to be corrupt but Putin managed to fix 90% of the corruption, this is why the Bilderberg Group and the WEF are trying to destroy Russia, its because they are afraid someone like Putin will come in European countries and fix corruption by puting oligarchs under control.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        alright, have a (You)

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        He didn't fix corruption, he just institutionalized it

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          There is a video of Putin demanding the oligarch give him back his pen, and the oligarch was scared shitless. In america presidents bow down to Bill gates and Mark Zuckerberg or Jeff Bezos.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            No they dont

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Absolute midwit who fell for the propaganda. You're like a 14 year old boy impressed with displays of dominance, kek.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Kid, stop listening to those 'alpha male' homosexuals
            They don't understand how the world actually works
            Also that clip was 1,000% scripted

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        The worst part is we can't be sure if this is obvious satire or utter delusion.

        https://i.imgur.com/VXx1tN7.jpg

        >be the MiG-31 'Foxhound'
        >be fast as fucc and fly high
        >can carry long range R-37 and R77 missiles
        >shot down a fair amount of Ukrainian aircraft from afar
        >uses its range, speed, and altitude to avoid being intercepted
        >is actually a threat and being utilized properly

        Like, after hearing many countless news of Russia's incompetence and failures, I'm quite surprised that there's something working as intended and being used properly. I mean, sure, it isn't going to change the tide of war but its odd to hear that this aircraft isn't as shit, unlike its predecessor the MiG-25.

        The only question is why did it take so long for them to remember that they have working post-80s interceptors with BVR missiles.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >Putin managed to fix 90% of the corruption,
        Putin is 90% of the corruption

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        No:
        https://www.reuters.com/article/us-russia-capitalism-health-special-repo/special-report-billion-dollar-medical-project-helped-fund-putins-palace-idINBREA4K0D220140521

        https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2022/04/26/vladimir-putin-personal-wealth-russian-sanctions/7169364001/

        Question if he's not corrupt, how did Putin afford a a palace worth 1.4 billion usd when his official declared income is arond 100K USD?

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Putin%27s_Palace

  5. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    No you moron it literally just comes down to
    >Russia has BVR missiles
    >Ukraine doesn't
    Like wtf are they supposed to do? Loiter over Moscow?

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      This.
      Hence why UA getting even a squadron of F-16's armed with AIM-120's would flip the playing field.
      But as it stands, RU has very much neutralized it.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        More stuff to shoot down their own aircraft with.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          You're embarrassing, you finally hit something that isn't your own launcher and your pathologic liar complex forces you to blame it on them. It's like watching a schizophrenic eat his own hand, except more baffling somehow.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >It's like watching a schizophrenic
            Piggers really are masters of irony.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              >NO U
              Kacaps truly enjoy unmatched wit.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          ShIt. Tatiana was hot.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >Tatiana was hot.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Shame for the mechanic. The politicians can all burn for all I care.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        F-16s all have a secret shutdown switch to keep clients from turning against the USA.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      It's not only the lack of BVR missiles, Ukraine doesn't have AWACS either to track air targets and guide those BVR missiles from afar.
      The current meta is long range missile + AWACS, dogfights are irrelevant now

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Neither does Russia, or Ukraine wouldn't have an air force, and we would get more than unsubstantiated rumors from Russian pilots.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Ukraine literally has to fly Its plane grazing the ground just to not get shot down:
          https://mil.in.ua/en/news/russian-a-50-aew-c-plane-arrived-in-belarus/
          https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/a-mig-29-pilots-inside-account-of-the-changing-air-war-over-ukraine
          And the only thing they can do is just lob unguided rockets. This is why even If they get JDAM's they wouldn't be able to use It since they're gravity bombs and require altitude

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >And the only thing they can do is just lob unguided rockets. This is why even If they get JDAM's they wouldn't be able to use It since they're gravity bombs and require altitude

            yeah nah m8 just toss that c**t and you can get like plenty standoff

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/a-mig-29-pilots-inside-account-of-the-changing-air-war-over-ukraine
            >It seems, however, that the Ukrainians have found means to at least reduce the threat posed by the R-37M. As Juice stressed: “Fortunately, the tactical aviation [branch] can avoid that and it didn’t perform any great results [against them]. Because we understood their tactics during the engagement of this missile, we created our own techniques to help to avoid that.
            So, they haven't done shit.

            Now, wait an hour or day and remake it.

            And, yet, they still fly. Why? I thought Russian R-37Ms, and R-77s were BTFO of them?
            >And the only thing they can do is just lob unguided rockets.
            That's because they're using shit Russian gear.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >And the only thing they can do is just lob unguided rockets.
            Wait, if thus was caused by Russian superior AWACS why are RUSSIAN planes in CAS role flying low to the ground and doing nothing but lobbing unguided rockets?

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              Because they can't afford to build more.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous
          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            LOFT attack profile lol. They continue attacking the same way but with increased accuracy and effect

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >Ukraine doesn't have AWACS
        3 AWACS are in the air 24/7 in Poland or Romania

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          They can't send targeting data to Ukraine's Mig-29's or Su-27's for launching their Fox-3's

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Just send F-16

  6. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >shot down a fair amount of Ukrainian aircraft from afar
    No, it hasn't. You keep making the same fricking thread, and get BTFO each time. Why?
    https://desuarchive.org/k/thread/56781493/
    https://desuarchive.org/k/thread/56780424/
    https://desuarchive.org/k/thread/56834198/

    >Russian fighters have remained highly effective and lethal against Ukrainian aircraft near the frontlines throughout the war, especially the Su-35S with the R-77-1 long-range missile
    >Throughout the war, Russian fighters have frequently been able to achieve a radarlock and launch R-77-1 missiles at Ukrainian fighters from over 100 km away. Even though such shots have a low probability of kill, they force Ukrainian pilots to go defensive or risk being hit while still far outside their own effective range, and a few such long-range shots found their mark.
    25. Author interview D.
    26. Ibid.; author interview H; and inspection of recovered R-77-1 and R-27 missiles, Ukraine, October
    2022.
    27. Author interview D; and author interview G. Supported by footage released by the Russian
    Ministry of Defence showing three R-77-1s being launched by an Su-35 flying at Mach 1.1 and
    around 33,000 ft with a launch acceptable region (LAR) indicator on the heads-up-display showing
    around 75 km at the start of the clip. Since missile effective range is proportional to launch
    altitude and speed, as well as target aspect and speed, an Su-35 flying faster than Mach 1.1 at, for
    example, 40,000 ft+ (well within its performance capabilities) could easily have an LAR in excess
    of 100 km against a low-flying closing target. Footage accessible at Fighter Bomber, Telegram,
    1 June 2022, <https://t.me/fighter_bomber/7432>;;, accessed 30 October 2022. Alternatively,
    see Rob Lee, ‘Video of a Russian SU-35S fighter launching R-77 air-to-air missiles at an aerial
    target’, Twitter post, <https://twitter.com/RALee85/status/1532831958757261313?s=20&t=lI2-
    hY07Jky1C4dTnfeWTg>, accessed 30 October 2022.

    Where are the kills?

    1/3

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >Despite these disadvantages, aggressive Ukrainian tactics and good use of the low-level terrain
      during the first days of the invasion led to multiple claims and several likely kills against Russian
      aircraft, although Ukrainian fighters were often shot down or damaged in the process.32 After
      three days of skirmishing in which both sides lost aircraft, there was a notable pause in Russian
      strike and fighter sorties venturing deep behind Ukrainian lines, which lasted for several days.

      >32. Author interview D. There is significant uncertainty about the number of kills scored during air-to-air
      engagement in this period since overclaiming on both sides undoubtedly occurred and some aircraft
      would have come down in areas controlled by Russian forces in remote wooded areas or in water.
      As such, they were not confirmed at the time. However, as Ukrainian forces liberate more territory,
      Russian aircraft wrecks continue to be discovered, such as an Su-30SM fighter with tail number RF81773 (bort number ‘Red 62’) was also discovered near Izyum in September. See Ukraine Weapons
      Tracker, Twitter post, 12 September 2022, <https://twitter.com/UAWeapons/status/15692754803
      43281665?s=20&t=V2ECIykC9C6E8oxIaZaqfA>, accessed 30 October 2022. Another example is an
      Su-34 frontal bomber with tail number RF-81852 (bort number ‘Red 09’) discovered near Lyman in
      early October. See Ukraine Weapons Tracker, Twitter post, 2 October 2022, <https://twitter.com/
      UAWeapons/status/1576565672838303745?s=20&t=Y2306EbNHHYJP5YTcJyUlQ>, accessed 30
      October 2022.

      2/2

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >in recent months, the Mig-31BM with the R-37 very long-range missile.
        >However, these patrols have proven highly effective against Ukrainian attack aircraft and fighters, with the Mig-31BM and R-37M long-range airto-air missile being especially problematic. The VKS has been firing up to six R-37Ms per day during October, and the extremely high speed of the weapon, coupled with very long effective range and a seeker designed for engaging low-altitude targets, makes it particularly difficult to evade.76 The long range of the R-37M, in conjunction with the very high performance and high operating altitude of the Mig-31BM also allows it significant freedom to menace Ukrainian aircraft near the frontlines from outside the range of Ukrainian defences.
        71. Author interview D; and author interview G. Supported by multiple examples of footage, including
        WarLeaks - Military Blog, ‘Russian Pilot Ejecting From Shot Down SU-25 At Extreme Low Altitude’,
        YouTube, 23 October 2022, <https://youtu.be/34-4D-MmR4I>;;, accessed 28 October 2022; Global
        Intel, ‘Watch A Russian SU-25 Jet Getting Shot Down By Ukrainian MANPAD’, YouTube, 7 September
        2022, <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m1tbOKfppNY>;;, accessed 28 October 2022.
        76. Author interview D. In addition, the author conducted an examination of recovered R-37M missile
        sections that had been recently fired in Ukraine, October 2022.

        >MiG-31 crews, flying high-altitude defensive patrols along the ever-shifting front lines and firing powerful Vympel R-37M air-to-air missiles, in recent weeks apparently have shot down several Ukrainian jets. The Ukrainians’ own fighters and missiles lack the speed, range and altitude performance to fight back effectively.
        >in recent weeks apparently have shot down several Ukrainian jets
        >apparently

        3/3

        Your source: https://rusi.org/explore-our-research/publications/special-resources/russian-air-war-and-ukrainian-requirements-air-defence

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >R-77-1 long-range missile
          Reminder that r77 is a joke. https://medium.com/war-is-boring/russias-most-feared-air-to-air-missile-is-actually-kind-of-a-dud-ebebe8b28f4f

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/a-mig-29-pilots-inside-account-of-the-changing-air-war-over-ukraine
          >It seems, however, that the Ukrainians have found means to at least reduce the threat posed by the R-37M. As Juice stressed: “Fortunately, the tactical aviation [branch] can avoid that and it didn’t perform any great results [against them]. Because we understood their tactics during the engagement of this missile, we created our own techniques to help to avoid that.
          So, they haven't done shit.

          Now, wait an hour or day and remake it.

  7. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    because they follow the rules russia escalates in stages.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      What rules? Their bluffs get called over and over, simple as

  8. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    I thought MiGgers were always considered to be decent planes, no?

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      29's are budget SU's, 31's are part of an obsolete niche the west abandoned many many years ago. the 31 are really cool looking planes, and going fast is based.

  9. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Can anyone provide a single confirmed Mig-31 A2A kill?

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Imagine having to live with yourself after you, through no fault of your own, cause the death of a bunch of your buddies

  10. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    ON TIME
    UNDER BUDGET

    >ON TIME
    UNDER BUDGET
    >UNDER BUDGET
    ON TIME

    B O M B I N G T H E F U T U R E

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Why have I not heard a peep of news from this ever since it was unveiled?

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        not really too much to say, they unveiled a nonflying prototype. thing looked cool but after the hype died down there isn't much to talk about beyond speculating payload or additional capability.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        The frick are you going to hear until it takes its first flight in June of this year? Nothing really to report on, just like when the B-2 rolled out. The only thing released since roll-out is that two airframes are complete, with four others in various states of production. One for roll-out, and one for ground tests, so far.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        It's a stealth plane anon.

        >By February 2022, six B-21s were under construction.
        >The B-21 is expected to make its first flight in 2023 and enter service by 2027.
        It's also not done yet.

        >The first F-35A, designated AA-1, was rolled out at Fort Worth on 19 February 2006 and first flew on 15 December 2006.
        >first entered service with the U.S. Marine Corps F-35B in July 2015

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      It's only under budget because they fudged it by working on the RQ180 first before making it manned.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        The RQ-180 has little in common with the B-21 besides being a lambda wing design, and being built by NG. Yeah, the experience helps, though, you could say the same for the B-2. The B-21 is basically a scaled down version of the original ATB proposal from NG before the redesign that gave us the B-2. The RQ180 lineage comes from NG's SensorCraft proposal that I've posted about before. I could go into it again, if there's interest. It's a fricking beast.

  11. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Long range BVR Interceptor is the future of air combat. Since the 6th NGAD requirements is literally for a long range interceptor & stealth, dogfight performance is irrelevant since you can just shoot down enemy fighter long before they get within visual range

  12. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    it helps that Ukraine has no fox 3's and are politically barred from attacking targets in Russia even though by all reasonable notion of self defence under intl law they have the right to.

  13. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >shot down a fair amount of Ukrainian aircraft from afar
    Can I see them?

  14. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >Turns out Mig is much superior than Sukhoi
    revive Mig-35 pls

  15. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Apperently the Russians are using the Mig-31 effectively, but not like it was intended. It's designed as a high speed, high altitude interceptor, not a bomb/missile truck.

    That said, I absolutely love the Mig-31, I just wished it wasn't used in this unjust war.

  16. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    People made fun of me when I said I liked MiG-25 and MiG-31, saying they're bricks that melt mid-flight and can only shoot down slow strategic bombers.
    I feel validated now that it's the only aircraft Russia made that seems to work out for them.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      What has it shot down, exactly?

  17. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Nothing surprising or new to me. I'm a DCSgay lurking in /vg/simg/ (the place where that USA vs USSR fighter meme was made BTW). Years ago already we knew that the MiG-25 was the only fighter without a negative K/D (it's 1:1). The MiG-31 tones down the speed a bit and adds a proper radar and missile complex copied from F-14. We already thought like the MiG-25 in Iraq, MiG-31 is the only Russian fighter/interceptor that has any chance at all to at least somewhat harass the American air rape from the distance once in a while.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      The only reason for MIG-25's neutral K:D is the R-40RD and R-40TD missiles adopted in 1979 and used in Mig-25PD and Mig-31. These are different from the shitty basic variant of the missile and are significantly better than anything else that's in soviet inventory. The radar guided R-40RD was using an inverse monopulse guidance like the newest western missiles and the IR guided R-40TD was an all-aspect capable IR guided missile, similarly modern. The issue was that the missile had the range of an AIM-7E from 15 years prior(40km) and inferior to all the newer ones, meanwhile it was so big it was larger and heavier than AIM-54 Phoenix, more than twice the size of the Sparrow. It also wasn't at all maneuverable, unsurprising given that weight and range. Nonetheless, a good seeker good enough to defeat countermeasures and work reliably is still a capable weapon against unsuspecting targets and as an ambush tool. Still, technologically these missiles are very much soviet state of the art to this day as other, even later soviet missiles were pretty poor(aside from the R-73) and newer russian developments based on unfinished projects failed to materialize anywhere but advertising materials and/or are a total failure. The only unclear missile in this whole usual jumbled mess of soviet projects is the R-33, this missile's replacement but given unreliability of soviet radar it seems that at that range even the semi active homing was too much for soviet tech. I believe that many of the overhyped R-37's are actually R-33s in reality and their performance is nothing out of the line for soviet tech.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >The MiG-31 tones down the speed a bit and adds a proper radar and missile complex copied from F-14.
        Technically, MIG-31 flied at similar speeds to the MIG-25 used in service as anything more trashed the engines. It also used afterburning turbofan engines for the first time for the soviets, massively boosting the subsonic range of the plane. The radar was also an inferior imitation rather than a copy of the AWG-9.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Its positive now actually

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        The K:D doesn't go up if the planes you shoot down are the same model.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          nah i mean the commonly cited 1:1 kd doesnt include a handful of kills from iran iraq or the kill in the gulf war

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Actually it does. The rest is unconfirmed bullshit you can stick up your vatBlack personlover ass.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              why are you lying? why are you getting assblasted over a 50 year old airplane? the facts are important and the facts are that the list isnt perfect and a quick google search shows that the mig25 went 15:1 in iran iraq and 1:2 in the gulf war. if you can show me somewhere that annuls half of Iraqs claimed kills from iran iraq id be happy to shut up.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Lol, the liar accusing people of lying. Eat shit vatBlack person, nobody will recognize your flaming piece of shit plane.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                what are you even talking about? who said anything about russia? why are you so hostile?

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Don't bother. You can't fight those levels of butthurt.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Sorry your lies got called out. Hopefully you won't make a fool of yourself next time and won't have to resort to samegayging.

  18. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Is probably one of the most deadly aircraft in the world.

  19. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Imagine if the Mig31 was made in the US or France

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      It would be an obsolete one trick pony that'd go the way of A-10 at best.

      US literally made a fighter interceptor that's got everything Mig-31 has cranked up to 11 that's also carrier based 7 years before soviets.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      isn't that basically the F-14 or Tornado F3?

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        The tornado was German but I was thinking maybe the Mirage F1

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          well the interceptor version is British-Italian. was racking my brain trying to think what the French version of the F-14 is and I don't think they have them.

          The F-1 is a very high and fast fighter that diced with and even shot down some F-14s but it's radar is just a very large monopulse that is longer range than some pulse dopplers of the time but has little look down ability.

          The next French fighter was the Mirage 2000 which kind of skipped a generation and was a true 4th gen fighter not just a thicc 3.5 gen with a very good radar and missiles like the F-14, upgraded F-4s or the F3 Tornado.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            The mirage has always been a multi role fighter not so much a inceptor maybe the Mirage III was the closest to the MIG31 in terms of its role

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              for the F1 at least its a case of all mirages are multirole but some are more multirole than others. for example the C is just an radionav only interceptor you can bolt bombs onto while for example an Iraqi EQ was fully multirole with an INS system, weapon release cues and guided weapons like ARM missiles and Exocets.

  20. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >ugliest plane Russia ever made
    >happens to be the only effective one
    I hate this gay war. That plane looks like a botoxed up crackprostitute.
    Just look at this sleek beauty in comparison.

  21. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >UUHHHH IS ROSSIYA ACTUALLY.... WINNING?
    Only on /chug/

  22. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >>shot down a fair amount of Ukrainian aircraft from afar
    Complete fantasy.
    There is 0 evidence beyond some westerner saying this tactic could work.

    If russia actually was successful doing it youd think they constantly post videos of it.
    Bvr only works if you know exactly what youre targeting and they dont know you are doing that.

  23. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    I find it funny that Russia has spent literal decades boasting that BVR is a meme and the best fighter is one that can do flippy-doos and crawl up it’s own butthole at point blank range. And now that they’re actually going to war, all the maneuverability in the world can’t save them, and their best tactic is to yeet missiles from long range.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      To be fair this tactic doesn't really save them either.

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