So Zelensky is on his way home from Japan. As of now he's currently flying right outside Russian airspace. What would the consequences be if Putin decides to scramble jets and shoot the plane down? Could it even be done so far east?
So Zelensky is on his way home from Japan. As of now he's currently flying right outside Russian airspace.
TZD
he probably has 69 F22 and F35s tailing him
What's the standard procedure for heads of state flights? Do they always have escorts with them? Would be difficult for long haul flights like this one no?
Tankers and other stuff in trail
Unescorted for the most part. Russians can't intercept the plane for the majority of the flight, and it's well within friendly/neutral ADIZ for the most of the time.
Couldn't they send up a couple of MIG-35's and fly up alongside the plane and wave at Zelensky just to shit his pants? Would be a pretty ballsy move and kinda a response to the whole F-16 saga.
How is it a response to the F-16 thing?
>hey look world the rusmorons are flaunting their shit planes
>hey you’re right let’s send you some actual good ones
>three months later the entire pozziyan Air Force gets anal gaped in front of the world
Decent chance they'd just get shot down
>What's the standard procedure for heads of state flights?
Wrong question. Zelensky is not ever going to be subject to "standard procedure," whatever the idiotic fuck you think that means. He's one of the most protected human beings on the entire planet.
>french air force
Gee, do I wonder
>board a plane going from Japan to Poland, flying past russia
>nervous about flying but reassure yourself
>"it's the safest form of travel"
>Zelensky boards
>shoot down French Air Force plane
>Article 5 deathstreak unlocked
Article 5 wouldnt apply. They're outside the zone covered by NATO. Otherwise the UK could have Article 5'd Falklands.
It would be a phenomenally bad move still. Martyr Z-man. Piss off France to double down on support. Piss off Japan by making them worry that foreign diplomats can no longer enjoy basic freedom of movement to their country.
>Otherwise the UK could have Article 5'd Falklands.
Techincally true but the UK never wanted to ask for any help because it made them look weak. Although France shared some Exocet intel with them
I believe leaders are off the menu for both sides
Except for all the failed attempts of course
That was just a prank
Yes. We wuz pranksters and shiet.
>I believe leaders are off the menu for both sides
Nope. Putin sets foot within Ukraine range and they will gladly kill him.
They're not, and they never have been.
Weren't Spetsnaz gunning for Zelensky on week 1?
Russia broke a bunch of rules on week 1. Probably the reason they are getting broken up and nobody askes their opinion.
Yeah. They were slaughtered by school teachers and farmers when they tried to enter Kyiv. It's being investigated as a war crime, but there's about 20 or 30 other international laws that were broken by doing that.
first 2 weeks was complete chaos. Now both sides play by unspoken rules like Russia not using Belarusian airspace to launch cruise missiles even though he probably could force Lukashenko to allow it if he wanted
There have been at least 4 assassination attempts on Zelensky so far
>shooting down the plane of nuclear-armed france
russoids have already downed a plane full of European citizens.
that was a civie plane tough and while the pretense of peace was still being kept
But it was a Malaysia aircraft anon and not a military one either. And while the truth was fully shown after a two year investigation, Russia had the fig leaf of "separatists" and "conflict zone" and "confusion" at the time, as well as less general condemnation period.
Shooting down a French AF jet at this stage with fighter aircraft over international waters would be a massive escalation over that.
Frenchies have policy for unannounced nuclear strikes if someone fucks with their planes
Pretty sure France is the only nuclear country with a first strike policy.
The US retains the right to a first strike.
I think a lot of countries do.. it'd just be a dumb policy to explicitly weight to to be nuked first
It's the only country with an explicit "nuclear strike as a warning" policy.
No France just has the most extreme one. The US will not deploy nuclear weapons unless it believes nuclear war is inevitable. The French policy is limited tactical nuclear response to any aggression on French territory as a warning shot and a full nuclear exchange if hostilities continue after the nuclear warning shot.
>limited tactical nuclear response to any aggression on French territory
Surely the Russians pimping the yellow vests and sponsoring the LePens and Communists in France to cause riots and social unrest qualifies for this?
Via proxy and it was an accident.Deliberately shooting down a french plane to kill Zelensky is so retared even Putin wouldn't do it.
>so retared even monke wouldn't do it
Everybody keeps SAYING that .....
"nuh uh"
And it's the real reason why russia is being disassembled right now.
Maybe if it was an actual world war but Putin really couldn't do it if he wanted to keep up the pretense of this still being a """special military operation"""
The pretense is just for Russia and India really.
Russia can't even beat Ukraine who is only being armed with NATO hand-me-downs, 70% of which hasn't reached the line yet.
Shooting down France's jet would mean war with NATO. A war that would be so one sided, the hardest part would be the argument over who gets to beat the shit out of Russia first.
Ukraine loses a pretty good spokesman. Maybe makes some good pr and makes him a martyr, some even more anti russian fuck like Poroshenko comes into power. Russia loses the right to call it a special military operation by commiting an outright act of war. Maybe loses some more allies, gets sanctioned some more, thats about it.
In case you missed it anon:
>CTM1022
>France - Air Force
Zelensky and the allies aren't complete newb morons, they're not just flying him civilian. Russia shooting down a French Air Force jetliner with undoubtedly tons of NATO military officials/personnel aboard would absolutely mean more consequences then what you're describing. Also open season on Putin himself.
>Also open season on Putin himself.
This is the real reason why they won't shoot it down.
>Article 5
>Nuclear power
>Macron needs something to buck up his popularity
I'm your huckleberry.
UN police action on Russia.
>shoot down aircraft of the air force with tactical nukes for a first honhon no further
>and who's stated nuclear strategy is "fuck military targets we are going for the cities"
depending on how in the spirit of Abe the LDP wants to act. The japs might just open up that second front they still owe the west from the 40ies
>solidify the chino-russian alliance
I didn't know becoming a vassal state of China is in russian interest.
Honestly it probably is at this point. Maybe they'll get some investment.
hahaha you vatniks still over a year later can't meme in any fashion but
>take the truths they said at us
>change the wordings to make it the other way
>we're so smrt
literally "the russoid cries out in pain as he strikes you" over and over again.
Russia can't even csramble eggs ffs.
What creature is the vatnik meme supposed to be? Spurdo is a bear, pepe is a frog, wojak is a neutral expressioned trollface, what is the vatnik meant to be? Is he a foot or hand?
The word vatnik refers to a cheap coat worn by Soviet poorfags (ie everyone), and by soldiers and party goons. It's filled with cotton.
Unironically eagle would take its gloves off and frog would rise an eyebrow - all types of non-nuclear ballistic and cruise missiles would suddenly be avaliable for Ukrainie, alongside the intel and green light to blow every russmoron commander expect Shoigu, Gerasimov and Monke himself.
>FFL vs. Wagner in Africa
They would start some debate whether this should trigger Article 5. Meanwhile France would bomb every single Wagner base in Africa in the next 48 hours. Americans might also do the same in Syria. Eventually they probably wouldn't outright strike at Russia but would declare the Black Sea a no-fly zone for them and start shooting down everything that has a red star on it. They would also just expand the NATO air defense grid to include most of Western Ukraine. Then wait for Russia to blink.
olawd we've got a live one!
someone post the timeline of Russia's denials, this nibba is years behind the firehose.
I imagine the french would see pretty dimly on the vatmorons shooting down one of their planes.
>solidify the chino-russian alliance
10/10 bait.
i recognise those M&S chinos.
The frog will exit the lilypad and the looming shadow will make you know
Natural gas is significantly less expensive than it was prior to the war. As you can see in the chart, day ahead gas went from ca. 75€ 0n the 01.02.2022 to ca. 30€ on the 18.05.2023.
>Kiev
its Kyiv anon, you can rename it after you captured it 🙂
i want total zigger death.
i want Ukraine to win and to reclaim all th land that is under the SBU owl.
I want nothing to remain of Russia but a bad memory.
But it will always remain Kiev to me.
>Why doesn't Russia just declare war on NATO
I wonder.
Didn't they admit the oil and gas revenues are in trouble? What industry? You need Pajeet ball bearings.
Zelensky has flown many times with the Dutch government plane and the Russians didn't do shit. I highly doubt they would suddenly shoot the French plane down.
What set off Olgino wheelchairs to be so active today?
Only Osama was killed by Americans, tho. They coinkydinky avoid they supplied the British, French, Chinese and Soviets with weapons but didn't kill them (I mean they did shit but not killed their leaders). Almost like if you start attacking American interests they'll do something.
Well, two of these are muslim dictators, one of them is a muslim insurgent, and one is a gnomish head of state of a democratic country. Can you help spot the odd one out?
>when a single country is so powerful anything that ever happens can be attributed to it
would be shot down
>tried shit, got assfucked with bayonet
>tried shit, got ventilated while hiding
>tried shit, got the noose like a common criminal
>hasn't tried shit, has no incentive to try shit, will probably retire famous and wealthy
It's almost as if trying shit is what does it. Nah, must be the accepting US aid part I guess.
The best part is, Saddamn was never a US ally, but these idiots think him buying ammo and explosives from the US during a major war in the 1980s makes him a big ally.
This is weird vatnik projection, you obviously can't get to him so you're basically hoping we'll do it for you.
Russians have been trying to erase all neighbours cultures for millennia trough genocide and forced russification
>Silence
"Hey kid, you gotta learn Ukrainian in Ukraine"
>OMFG NEONAZI BANDERA HOHOLS! TIME TO COMMIT GENOCIDE.
Every single time.
I am still pissed how fast Russia doing Tianmen 2.0 in Kazakhstan got forgotten. Even if they didn't attack Ukraine, I doubt anyone would remember by now.
Russia hasn't existed for a millennium. But Ukraine has been around since before the pyramids.
Here's what would happen:
First, they would shoot down the wrong plane.
Then, they would shoot down the right plane.
Everyone would be really furious.
The course of the war would remain unchanged.
>Ukrainian culture was a german invention during WW1
Why were there people identifying as Ukranian on Austro-Hungarian census from the 1800's if that's indeed true?
They were identified as ruthenian at the time. An amalgamate of all the slavic cultures between Poland and Russia (Ukrainians and Byelorussian). This however was irrelevant at the moment and the true colors were to be shown during WW1 (Russian assimilation of occupied Galitzia and Lodomeria) and later arrange the Ukrainian borders up to Germany at the Brest Litovsk treaty and later totally defining eastern borders with the RSFSR
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finnish_Civil_War
This and many more puppets along the eastern front.
Are you retarded?
Do you understand that the Finnish Civil war began AFTER Russia completely collapsed?
Finland was in fact a RUSSIAN puppet state during the first world war, people like Mannerheim fought FOR Russia.
>Do you understand that the Finnish Civil war began AFTER Russia completely collapsed?
So what? WW1 was still ongoing dumdum. Russia did collapse and released Ukraine and the rest but that doesn't mean the war was over. Those nation were to be used for war effort against other oponents like Italy, France of Great Britain.
Are you trying to imply that Finnish civil war was somehow a part of WW1? Do you understand what could have been the motivations behind wanting independence? Hint, it's not the perfidious krauts, it has something to do with russification.
Hyvää huomenta herra
Go back to school.
>French air force plane
>shoot it down
*Force de frappe intensifies*
The Russians could easily whack Zelensky if they wanted to, but why would they? They guy is clearly deluded and non-coherent. If he died they'd replace him with Zaluzhny (assuming he hasn't been whacked by Zelensky as the rumours are circulating) who has a much more bridled tongue and has shown much greater competence than Zelensky.
John Johnovich from Obama Oblast here. I agree and think we should stop giving the aids to the ukraine
Nyet, special aids operation must continue
Do you understand that half the western hemisphere speaks English and it isn't England? Do you understand the other half speaks Spanish or Portuguese and yet both Spain and Portugal are all the way in Europe?
Do you understand North Korea and South Korea are both filled with Korean speakers?
>I find rather interesting how nearly all the countries invaded by Russia post-ColdWar were at some point collaborators against Russia during WW1 or WW2
You mean they were in Europe? Add the -stans to your list.
He's flying on a NATO plane. Shooting it down just to get at him just plays directly Ukraine's hands.
>German puppet during WW1
Is this bait?
Because the only reason anyone would hate Russia is if they are a puppet of the enemy
Those motherfuckers have a 1200 year Stockholm syndrome. They just don't know what it's like on the other side anymore.
>Ukrainian culture was a german invention during WW1 and WW2 to gain german support in the region. Don't you say it's fake because the first time a modern consolidated Ukraine was the UPR, a german puppet.
Germans invented Shevchenko? Weird.
Whatever. Anything between Russia, Germany and Italy there lies countries made up during in the XIX and XX century are countries reborn during the age of nationalism which they caracterize by their lack of historical continuity. (Therefore, fake countries). Anybody can draw maps on the line and justify why is this a nation. This can be used as a tool to get more support from their side. This happens to be a useful military tactic to weaken the enemy, not only against russian but against anyone or even yourself. Like Russia when they tried to get influence over the balkans by "liberating" Serbia, Bulgaria. Or Germany against Russia with Ukraine and Belarus.
>Anybody can draw maps on the line and justify why is this a nation.
There's a bit more to it than that.
I'm glad I got to experience this high effort retard post.
>And glory, freedom's knights, to you,
>Whom God will not forsake.
>Keep fighting—you are sure to win!
>God helps you in your fight!
>For fame and freedom march with you,
>And right is on your side!
Taras Shevchenko, 1845
You're a dirty lying moron.
if I were Putin, I would ask Russian hackers to put that webm of garden gnomelensky in high heels on the largest times square billboards, then I would surrender, because no matter what at this point, it's a win
Bold of you to assume putin has the balls to do anything to western nation beyond threatening nukes every second day
>consequences
Create a martyr, pretty much guarantee direct western involvement of Americans and Brits and maybe some non-coward Europeans like Poles, Lithuanians, and Estonians.
>could it be done
Yes, but why would you?
They risk getting a competent commander in chief to replace him who doesn't try to get his best units killed for being goyim who know, in addition to the Art 5 risk. There's no reason for them to kill him now
>Russia scrambles planes to shoot down Zelensky
>US notices
>Scrambles a squadron of manned SR-72's that are absolutely not the precursor to NGAD *Wink wink*
>SR-72s are on station by the time the Russian's make it to internation waters
>The only one that notices is Macron looking out his window as the stealth jets move past them at high speed
>The squadron of SR-72s knock out 60~ planes Russia scrambled to shoot down Zelensky without ever alerting the russians to their presence
>Russia and Macron can't help but seethe but they have no proof
>Billy Bob the Pilot is just mad they wouldn't let him put truck nuts on the jet
there would be a calculated and proportionate Ukraine/Nato response
Russia doesn't even want this war. It's destroying their country. Shooting that plane or killing zelengarden gnome means that the US finally has a reason to send troops and stop pretending this is a nato proxy war for the US.
Russia can end the war today by taking their boys home.
Ukraine doesn't have that option, because they have invaders on their soil waging a genocidal campaign
Russia wants this war.
The US started the war though
>The US started the war though
Based and not retard-pilled.