So, what happened to Russian supposed FPV domination they were supposed to supposedly achieve, supposedly 4 months ago
So, what happened to Russian supposed FPV domination they were supposed to supposedly achieve, supposedly 4 months ago
So, what happened to Russian supposed FPV domination they were supposed to supposedly achieve, supposedly 4 months ago
>supposedly
>supposed
>no source for that supp
Hey, kys.
if you don't remember at winter there were news publications both in West and Russia about Russia outproducing FPV drones
And yet the figures say otherwise
To be honest Ukrainian forces aren't on the offensive and don't have as much equipment all over the place, so even if they were fielding an equal amount of drones you'd see more Russian losses.
Someone who shares his data as opposed to claims that contradict actual data but morons want to believe anyway.
I've read more than a few first hand accounts of Russians b***hing about how shit their state-made drones are. The QA is dogshit and they use well known frequencies so they just get jammed immediately. Only independent drone makers produce decent stuff but they are rarer.
Ziggers have been bragging about it since December at least
Maybe so there is a chance to have a debate?
But since you offer violence here you have violence.
>the premise is flawed
>yet he engages in time wasting discussions
kys moron
I still don't know the context of this webm, but I always laugh regardless.
I also forgot the Shanghai Sniffles quarantine until anons on here reminded me lmao. Still can't believe most of us just memoryholed those 2 whole years.
Noone else did, you justvhave Alzeimers and since you never go outside anyway nothing changed for you.
Black person I was the only one walking around while Black folk like you were waiting in your mom's basement for the clot shot.
The streets were super clean and peaceful without all the cars and people running around.
I say we should have another Quarantine.
>>no source for that supp
Because RT already deleted the article.
>Hello, I totally am not the same person who has been posting Lancet videos for months.
So why does the Russian army put bounties on destroyed equipment?
Because the videos are shared to their superiors for the bounty? Not the public (maybe some of them are released with RT later on)
But why does a professional army need a bounty system in the first place?
the same way professional army needs blocking detachments and army guides how to commit suicide
Ukraine, at least in the Beginning, had a Bounty system too. I know people would film casualties regardless, but I think this is an explanation for many of the videos that were made in the beginning.
> source: this one guy on twitter
find me a better source
> Ukraine takes more losses across pretty much everything.
Ukraine would have stopped existing a long time ago if that were the case.
> Russia is just an actual army with requirements not to post any videos unless officially because bragging about all the snuff films you make makes everyone hate Ukraine more
Russians don’t post combat footage to English language western media sites, they stick to telegram and elsewhere. Russian combat content in western sites are typically reposted by Russophiles.
No human hates Ukraine in the first place. They are the defenders against an aggressor state.
>already a bunch of bots malding about the source
hehehehe
>Majority of Americans
>Based on accounts like TexasBob653475734252 on Twitter
In 2022, the US and allies realized that Ukraine needed to adapt quickly, and they started mass deployment of drones. They basically bought up the market for drone units and parts. They also went on a shopping spree buying 3D printers to design custom fits.
After buying up stockpiles, they made backfill orders for more, meaning they'd be the first recipients of new parts and fully assembled drones. Ask any drone enthusiast, prices have rose a lot since the war started.
Russia's drone procurement plan didn't start until Summer 2023, before they were relying on donations from soldiers and the public. The Russian government has problem with both evading sanctions and ramping up while Ukraine already cornered the market a year earlier.
TLDR: early bird gets the worm.
>They basically bought up the market for drone units and parts.
AFAIK Ukraine didn't receive direct assistance to ramp up their FPV production, in fact they complained that the west didn't have anything similar to disposable sub-500 dollar drones
Ukraine was buying Chinese drone parts, the west does not make cheap drones. They were able to buy it using US/Euro financial assistance, which created the FPV factories of today.
Russia is trying to replicate it but they don't have the levels Ukraine did because they're early adopters with massive pockets.
Apparently coping with "muh real army" works only in r/RussianWarFootage, r/chug/ and some deluded zigger telegram groups.
Wtf is going on in this image, jesus christ. My eyes are bleeding.
It looks like an early-war Russian cope. Idk.
I think they are making fun of air defense boomers shooting down their own planes as well as Ukrainian drones.
It's like expectations: Ukrainian think US drones will make them win but Russia sir force and air defense shoot them down
However in reality the air defense is shooting down both the Ukrainian drones and Russian planes in the cartoon.
However the Ukrainian guy is crying anyway so I am not sure if there is a second layer of meaning
>However the Ukrainian guy is crying anyway so I am not sure if there is a second layer of meaning
Because Ukraine still loses in that scenario.
I thought the expectation is something like:
> expect airforce will shoot down Ukraine's US drones
> "reality" is that nothing happens
> Russian AD battalion shows up 15 days later, presumably having Zhukoved their way through 15 days of drone strikes
> shoots the airforce down
> Russian tanks show up (now equally safe from Ukrainian drones and the Russian airforce)
> crosses the border
> parks a tank on Ukraine's javelin (which may have misfired)
> does some boomer version of a floss dance on both Ukraine's army and the Russian airforce
That's how I read it anyway.
unless you have an exact number of failed attacks from both sides making such idiotic pictures is just useless
His views on the war seem pretty chaotic. He keeps jumping from stance to stance.
>His views on the war seem pretty chaotic. He keeps jumping from stance to stance.
Try keeping track of Sinfest's stance on anything, that schizo goes from extreme to extreme.
Based Jap Schizo.
Why are the most interesting morons commenting on US politics not even American?
>Based Jap Schizo.
>Why are the most interesting morons commenting on US politics not even American?
He's a native Californian, 2nd generation maybe but American in culture and eminently qualified to talk about it.
He's just a severe case of relevance-deprivation syndrome, no-pussy and a touch of grifting for an audience. It's kind of what happens when Kanye is small-time and barely selling enough tracks to make rent.
>He's a native Californian
I always thought he was pretending to be in the US like Ian Miles Cheong or something lmao.
>I always thought he was pretending to be in the US like Ian Miles Cheong or something lmao.
He's very private so it's hard to really know for sure but people have collated every trace of a public source and his beginnings are pretty well known.
He started off as a student artist in a college paper at UCLA. Same strip technically but completely different in its student paper days to when it went online and what it is now.
you have to be careful looking at these kind of numbers without context. yes, russia is losing more vehicles than ukraine, however they also have more on the field at any one time and therefore more to lose. plus ukraine is on the defencive where a single bradley could hold a position for example, whereas an mechanised assault requires multiple vehicles. plus being on the defencive means more infantry in trenches and bunkers etc. russia exmpending 10 drones to dismantle a bunker wont come up in the loss statistics the same way ukraine taking out a golf cart would. also this graph is trying to make a point by differenciating drone kills, while forgetting that ATGMs, shells and mines dont have cameras to record the kill.
in short, this graph is almost worthless.
>a perfect explanation how the graph corresponds the reality of the battlefield
>in short, this graph is almost worthless
>plus ukraine is on the defencive where a single bradley could hold a position for example, whereas an mechanised assault requires multiple vehicles.
The graph begins with Ukraine's summer counteroffensive. Russia still lost more.
If it was 4 months ago then the vatnigs have moved on to 40 other copes by now. Expecting them to remember shit is a fool's errand.
>So, what happened to Russian supposed FPV domination they were supposed to supposedly achieve, supposedly 4 months ago
Russian drones are hunting Ukrainian soldiers.
>Russian drones are hunting Ukrainian soldiers.
The Ukrainian soldiers that are typically in entrenched positions?
sorry, but this is naive. Even as a defender you don't sit in a trench all day.
You have to bring supplies, rotate troops, repel attacks, go on a counterattack, etc. Also there are different kinds of drones. Surveillance drones spot troop positions and provide coordinates for artillery or attacking units.
You are not invulnerable just because you spend much of your time in an "entrenched position".
>sorry, but this is naive. Even as a defender you don't sit in a trench all day.
No but they sure as hell aren't sent wave after wave at 2 year old defensive positions
I think killing 11 men in BMP is more cost effective than one soldier
I'm not shilling for Russia but we both know that UA losses are underreported. Also, stockpiling is a thing. You build up a reserve for an offensive, spam them and then start building again.
As for the broader question of whom has superiority, I would expect it would be the Russians as they have the bigger economy, so yeah, they fricking better be able to out produce Ukraine.
Someone in the MIC needs to develop a cheap spammable FPV. I'm surprised no one at some small upstart firm (Anduril?) hasnt done it yet.
>but we both know that
Ah, the prelude to some zegro subhuman trying to sell you bullshit. Have some self respect and go star in a drone video.
>oh noes someone doesnt think what I think
>surely a shill
>I'm not a shill... BUT
Yes. I have to say that I know you're going to call me a shill because I'm not mindlessly dogging the Russians.
Ukraine supporter delusion is hilarious, we all know Russia carried this operation out like shit but theres no denying at this point Ukraine is losing, you propagandized morons are too deluded and just screech poltard or shill
I think Russian shills keep rationalizing and eventually Russia will pull out and the shills will still claim victory. It's just a failed invasion that broke Russia. It ain't coming back.
>but theres no denying at this point Ukraine is losing,
It's been 2 years and Russia has lost 50% of the territory they initially took and still haven't accomplished a single goal they set out to do. Technically Russia lost the war when Finland joined NATO because that was the entire point of invading Ukraine, to stop NATO expansion. But somehow just because they finally broke out of Donetsk bunkertrannies want us to believe Russia is winning.
65pbp
>broke out of Donetsk CITY
Just saying. They're still well short of actually taking the oblast.
Quick reminder that they're like a third of the way to Kramatorsk and Siversk, aka the place the Ukrainians originally planned their main line of resistance to be.
Those plots are from footage provided by both sides anon.
and the Ukranians are running a better information war. Acknowledging that the Russians are morons is not shilling for Russia.
>Ukies have more footage of them killing ziggers
>WELL ACKSHUALLY
Nobody's buying it anon.
buying what?
Ukraine's situation is easier to sell as defenders when Russia still doesn't have a logical or even plausible reason for invading. They change the narrative every week, their propaganda channels bark all sorts of conflicting information. Russian incoherence is difficult to side with, so only shitholes with a horse in the race even entertain the idea of supporting them.
You do realize that only a small portion of what is happening daily gets to the Internets? Only some teams on both sides have dedicated PR people who show you only a glimpse of what's happening
That's been the zigger cope along with MUH ZIGGERS DON'T RELEASE FOOTAGE BECAUSE THEY'RE HONARABU
Lol. Lmao, even.
But hey, I for one hope this goes on for at least two or three more years. We'll literally see Russia's entire adult male population disappear, and then the rape, cannibalism, and civilizational collapse can start.
Gentlemen, prepare your popcorn buckets.
if we go by visually confirmed deaths then it's pretty clear that russia will lose all of their males first
>I'm sure the collapsing ruble, the utter devastation of refineries, the reliance on north korea, the price of everything soaring up, the demographic collapse, the constant censoring and murder of anyone who speaks against the kremlin and the fact that putin won't live that much longer is all fine comrade.
Is not problem now, will not be problem ever. By the way, check phone for conscription notice. You going to fight for glorious motherland, what honor! Medical history is history, here is gun and bullet.
Wow, he get a whole bullet! Great Putin must have smile on him village this day!
>great satan
That's precious, coming from Russia, the child porn and child AIDS capital of the world.
So serious question: If
>Ukraine can make more drones than Russia
>Russia is running out of armored vehicles
>Ukraine has superior NATO weapons and vehicles
>Ukraine is getting a massive amount of aid from the West
Then why is Russia still advancing?
>it takes a "military superpower" that has gone full war economy almost a year of non-stop meatwaves concentrating their best assault troops with uncontested air superiority and spending tens of thousands of shells a day, against an exhausted 3rd world country with manpower shortages and running low on war materiel to move ~20km
Implessive
Multi-bipolar world disorder soon, z-comrade.
T-two more weeks?
wow impressive how many fortnites will it take to capture Ukraine at this amazing speed
Thats easy.
If russia advances, its because Ukraine allows it. They are trying to bait Russians into launching their last manpower reserves at what they perceive to be an exploit. Once russia has fully committed whats left of their military, ukraine will launch a counter attack and surround them. It will be glorious. The ukranians have concentrated over 100k troops just a few miles behind adveeka for this exact purpouse. Once they launch their assault they will cut off the salient in at most 2 hours. In fact, theyve already launched their attacks.
>They are trying to bait Russians into launching their last manpower reserves at what they perceive to be an exploit.
not manpower but irreplaceable soviet armored vehicles
The fact Russia hasn't already won in 2 fricking years is a complete and utter embarrassment, and there is simply no cope, seethe, excuse, or deflection that changes this fact.
Russia, the second strongest army in the world (according to Russia)
Vs
Ukraine, a corrupt weak country of uneducated hicks, (According to Russia), that is literally right next door to them and even has fricking highways for logistics going straight into the country from Russia's capital.
And yet, somehow, Russia hasn't won yet? Even if the lines utterly collapsed tomorrow and every single Ukrainian surrendered and joined together to praise monke, this war is STILL a loss simply because the West now understands just how much of a fricking joke Russia really is.
this is exactly why Putin won't stop after conquering the Ukraine.
>seven months of puccian might
>1488
>Then why is Russia still advancing?
Because in those 6 months in your time-lapse Ukraine had zero funding from the US. Despite that Russia is still only outside of Donetsk after 2+ years
> And what is the actual scale of this map?
Um, one to one, sir.
Didn't catch the updated metodichka? That one is not something to gloat about. Murz, puccia's top drone ops recruiter became trans after xhe saw how swell Avdiivka went for them.
In theory puccia should outperform Ukraine in pretty much everything. In practice - Russia.
Brain drain on a gargantuan scale.
Mobik got too good at his job? Now he threatens the next in line of leadership. Get the broom, bros!
Shit the build is done by underpaid, overworked alcoholics, kids, kid alcoholics.
Shit they get from their "greatest allies" is the most bottom shelf, "throw out at your earliest convenience" labeled trash.
Severely centralized command structure. Decisions take days to weeks to make. "Vranyo" culture makes sure that "everything is going smoothly, komandir!" even if a day of work was done in a month.
Corruption is the life and soul of the average Russian. Everything gets embezzled at least to some extent. Everything that's not bolted down gets stolen, scrapped for valuables. Corners are cut, just cuz, even if they don't need to.
Only motivation to do anything is money. That may or may not reach your hands.
But hey, as a consolation prize, a new mother and child got killed in Ukraine by a Kalibr missle! Take that globohomo!
anon they captured couple wheat fields in 8 months
A defending army will almost never advance.
An attacking army, even an outrageously incompetent one, will get a few lucky wins and picks up some ground.
After Ukraine ended their failed summer offensive, Russia just went to mindless 'attack endlessly' mode and they're burning through their old Soviet stocks and current population to do so. It's the military equivalent of slowly burning through all of your life savings and mortgaging everything you own so you can say 'look i'm winning at the casinos!'
If the only winning condition is gaining ground, yes, attacking endlessly will be a moronic way of getting that 'W'.
Captcha: M0G 2RW
Holy shit, this homosexual is not dick sucking trump for once?
I heard Russian breakthrough at Ocheretyne, is this true and a fricking nothing again?
>I heard Russian breakthrough at Ocheretyne, is this true and a fricking nothing again?
That depends on how highly you rate taking a town with a population of literally 3,300 (pre-war).
>that graph
I really dont see how that info proves russia has less FPV drones. Its tracking equipment losses. The ukranians have less equipment, its logical to assume they'd have less destroyed equipment based purely on the fact theres less Ukrainian equipment on the field.
Also FPV drones arent just used on vehicles. They're also used on men, trenches, fortifications, buildings, and other things. All of which this data doesnt include.
That's what extrapolation is for anon.
Correct. Ukranians have been mostly an infantry-only force with only light mechanization to move stuff around between fortifications for the better part of a year now. What little mechanized units they still have appear to be held in reserve. Russians have also been largely de-mechanized but they still maintain a significant presence on the battlefield probably due to the requirements of being on the attack. The actual drone ratio isn’t known atm and we can only go on video evidence which for the above-mentioned reason will heavily favor Ukraine.
so Ukraine is obviously more successful in drone warfare
Their "production" numbers consist of 80% of irreplaceable soviet stockpiles and 5% of NK demilitarisation.
>they have tons of asiatic hordes to draw upon
>we can kill multiple Black person species with a single ATACMS rocket
Don't threaten me with a good time!
>even the youtube armchair analysts know this... Its unironically over for Ukraine
anon...
who even claimed this?
There's a politics board where people talk about the war, but just post anime pictures all day. Go there and you'll see people who claim this.
so literally who
Ukraine loses well over 100 vehicles a week? Yikes, that's not sustainable at all
>vehicles
equipment. Which includes things that don't move.
Look at the lists, it's a LOT of SUVs, Vans, and other vehicles.
also tactical trees and bushes
I was baiting by saying yikes, but that still seems pretty high. Is that within expected range? And is the newest aid package enough to cover it?
>that still seems pretty high. Is that within expected range?
Any losses are high but on what basis do you think it seems high?
What was your baseline loss rate for low mechanised entrenched peer warfare between third-rate economies?
Ukraine doesn't need to preserve its vehicles so long as they eliminate sufficient Russian vehicles to win attrition and so long as their own crews survive.
Russia has 2.23% of the world's economy. Ukraine's allies have 54%
China and India have 21% between them but they're not aide donors to Russia like the rest of the world are with Ukraine. In fact those are the only two allies of Russia that are even above 1% in world GDP and they're paid-for friends who are making Russia pay extortionate prices in hard currency for everything it gets.
Ukraine will never really run out of vehicles, they'll just make some noise about it when they run low, fall back a few blocks in a village and then the next wave comes in. It's theatre for the plebs so that they understand why we keep fuelling Ukraine's war and don't have to get over there and do it ourselves.
You forgot Iran.
I've recently read a russian article that they're moving a rare earth factory to china due to sanctions too. New cold war is China + Iran/Russia as nork type crazies. Which is fine, because China is falling by the wayside.
>You forgot Iran
I excluded them not because they're not allied but because their GDP share is <1%. I just didn't feel like adding up every country that supports Ukraine because it's far too many, I just took the list down to 1% shares and divided that. Below that, it's a rounding error.
>New cold war is China + Iran/Russia as nork type crazies
Iran can't be ignored, their tech is better than people think but they're tiny and the combination with Russia makes that a losing alliance, Russia, BESTKOREA and Iran will be an albatross around China's neck. It's like that Sarah C Paine idea about growth. Sanctions will hamper those economies over a generation and when the conflict goes hot, their position will be so much worse than it is now.
Not worse in absolute terms, they'll have grown and will have advanced in tech and built new weapons but the gap between them and the nations comprising western civilisation will have grown. Countries inside the world economic system will have advanced much more than the isolated, sanctioned world.
If the war is delayed long enough then it won't happen because the Pariah State Alliance won't be able to make a credible threat and something somewhere will eventually give way under ever increasing pressure and ever worsening shortages.
Iran being paid nearly $200,000 for Shahed drones in Gold Bullions shows just how “trusting” this relationship is.
Well Ukraine lost like 500 APCs up till now so given how long the war lasted, I would expect maybe 3? overall vehicle losses a day
>Ukraine will never really run out of vehicles
I hope so
Hard to say what's "expected" but it's always substantially less than Russia's losses. The source in the OP does a daily breakdown of every loss type.
Garrison is already making homosexual drawings of Trump being evil so
You really do think that everything's about Trump, don't you?
shows that you're wrong.
Stop focusing on Trump, you're making the problem worse.
Honestly, it's a coin flip. Good old Benis Garrison occasionally makes a based comic or two, and he seems to be the old blood type of republican who hasn't fully caught the MAGA virus. Who knows what that boomer'll do.
You're not American.
MAGA morons aren't Americans. They're more akin to cultists.
Post outlet.
Every MAGAtard is a useful idiot fifth-columnist who doea not care for American and global freedom.
>who doea not care for American and global freedom.
Shoo shoo grammar israelite
>straight up ESL nonsense
>grammar
>16:51
https://www.timeanddate.com/time/map/
You live in West Africa
>16:51
Did you know that Africa and Europe share most timezones? There's a joke in there somewhere, but i'm on the east coast.
Post outlet.
Post hands.
Black person Black person Black person.
>but i'm on the east coast.
Sure, you just posted a photo from 3 hours into the future
>PXL_20240429_165132022.jpg
Sorry that you got BTFO so hard
Apparently Google Pixel phones use UTC time for photo filenames, so the "1651" in the filename doesn't indicate anything about his timezone.
https://support.google.com/pixelphone/thread/221441646/photo-filename-using-utc-timezone
>Every MAGAtard is a useful idiot fifth-columnist who does not care for American and global freedom.
sad but true