we are on the verge of civilization collapse. you have 10 seconds to explain why you don't have a self sufficient homestead right now

we are on the verge of civilization collapse

you have 10 seconds to explain why you don't have a self sufficient homestead right now

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  1. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I'm moronic

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      fpbp

      I'm too poor and I'm pretty sure that the police will shoot me for squatting.

      >too poor
      >police will shoot me
      so you're moronic

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Yes.

        Am I going to make it?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      This, I'm trying but I'm just so fricking stupid.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        I have a homestead and I'm still just not that into farming. I'm also dumb as they come, only I get the rare joy of being self aware of how fricking R-tarded I am.

        Shit sucks. Would rather be gaming and watching cool ass movies. Being a blue pill homosexual and getting excited for next product. It looks less stressful than this.

        Hey at least I'm not speaking German, Amirite? And since we're no gunz homosexuals here, I'll be overwhelmed by the human detritus in the cities when they try to come out to the sticks! Can't wait to get shivved by 15 kebabs and bleed out in my driveway while i watch them rape my wife and kids and eat my dogs. Good times ahead fellas! Grateful to not have mean tweets tho! Teehee

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      same, RRU

  2. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I'm too poor and I'm pretty sure that the police will shoot me for squatting.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      If you're American and can't afford land you're a literal moron. You have the cheapest land of any Western country, the lowest taxes and the highest incomes.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Wisconsin has some very cheap land, we do too in remote Sask areas but then you have problems with theiving natives

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >we do too in remote Sask
          Yeah, in a frozen wasteland.

          Burgers can grab 10 acres an hour away from a city for like $50k.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Lol where?
            Hop on Zillow and try to find 10 acres of arable land for 50k anywhere.

            You can find desert or mountain side at those prices, or areas so far into woods that you'd spend ten times that preparing the land for homesteading, but nothing realistic.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              >Zillow
              >not land watch
              There’s your problem.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >for like $50k
            The majority of Americans need to stop and think of whether they can even afford something that costs $1000. Are you fricking moronic? Land ownership (let alone simpler things like home ownership) are objectively out of reach for the vast majority of our citizenry. Yes, including the upstanding white populace.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              The majority of us are mullatos screeching about morbin for free.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Rural Sask here on 4 acres. It's sometimes a problem. But mostly I don't have anything worth stealing. Im working on installing better fencing too. And I have many dogs.
          It does suck though because I can't go on vacation. I'm sure as soon as I do, prairie Black folk will raid my property and steal everything

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >picture
            How many acres is that you reckon? Realistically are the land plots for those animals large enough?

            this is what house sitters are for Anon. Find some people you trust and offer them the ability to vacation/live there for a bit.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              >How many acres is that you reckon?
              That's supposedly a 1-acre homestead
              Basically this picture is a fantasy when it comes to the animals

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Based moron. The book it's from (I have read it) says specifically
                >this cannot support the animals alone - you will need to buy in hay at 1 acre
                >this is a temporary setup - animals are moved across the land from field to field throughout the year, and grazing fields rotate across years with set leys
                I'd suggest you read The New Complete Guide to Self Sufficiency by James Seymour for the details.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >...the book says...
                So I was right, without the context of field rotation and additional hay from an extra acre+ it won't work
                So you agree with me, the picture is a fantasy

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                The picture is a reality in the context of where is was produced. Your average /misc/tard wouldn't be able to pull it off for lack of knowledge. Those of us prepared to rotate the land, adjust with permaculture principles, read a few books on what ancestors did, and buy bigger (5-10 acres for 2 adults + 2 kids) will be alright.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Not so much when it comes to hogs, chickens, and goats, but cattle typically definitely need a lot more space. Not so much in Florida, though, ranchers there typically just move the cows from one patch of grass to another, and the first patch will be overgrown again by the time the others are ate up, and so when I left Florida and saw how big a ranch can really be, I was shocked; still, you need more than acre for cattle. I grew up in a trailer sitting on half an acre, though, and we were a truly self sufficient homestead family, sisters and me were homeschooled, we had no electricity, water from a well, but we ate well from fresh fruits, veggies, eggs, goat's milk/cheese, chicken, goat meat, and of course hogs. This was Wesley Chapel in the 90s. Then my dad got a notice of eminent domain, we had to move to Brooksville, we had to actually join society, which broke my father, I was thrust into public school, we rarely had enough food to eat, and today Wesley Chapel is just another gentrified suburb of Tampa, just strip malls and "luxury" condos/apartments for senior citizens, Brooksville is on the same path despite being a methy hick town full of Black folk, and basically I hate the fricking government because even if you work to become self sufficient and not participate in Sodom and Gomorrah like my father did, they can pave over your land, give you a pittance, kill your animals, and turn the place into another israelite israelite Yorker hellscape. Watching it happen slowly in Idaho, I moved outside of CDA almost ten years ago, used to have one neighbor five miles away, now my neighborhood is starting to look like yet another soulless suburb. Still have plenty of land and stuff but I live in constant fear of eminent domain. In the meantime, I'll enjoy a less comfortable life if the power grid goes down but I'll survive.
                The houses in the background weren't there a few years ago. Soon I won't have a good view of the mountains.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Wisconsin has some of the highest property taxes in the country. You have to take those into account. I have a house, two barns, and 27 acres in a mountain west state. My property taxes last year were under $800. The initial purchase price of land is a lot more expensive than Wisconsin though.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah but like every inch of this country is infested with homosexuals and morons like you so no matter what I’m stuck dealing with Black folk or israelites, and frankly I wouldn’t pay for that with your wallet.

  3. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I am not a fricking peasant
    >we are on the verge of civilization collapse
    >Oh no, ice cream is 10 cents more expensive, this means entire global civilization will end.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Based moron

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >I am not a fricking peasant
      >t. krug dvojke
      maybe not a fricking peasant but a FRICKING moron yes you are

  4. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Cuz Im broke Black person

  5. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Government will feed and protect me, duh.

  6. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    got 6 acres by a lake in rural texas. i'm set. i got out of dallas last year and never going back. but haven't started a garden yet. just have a few fruit trees. I need to fix my mower so I can mow back there. grasshoppers getting bad.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Not using a scythe or getting animals to mow for you...
      You are not going to make it.

  7. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Because I have more money and investments than you will ever see in your life, and with those plus firearms I can take your homestead, your women, your food and you can't do shit to stop me. I can payroll enough mercs to level the countryside.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      i'll take those free guns off those mecs

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        I'm sure you will try, Mr. Badass.
        I'm sure you will try.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          What makes you so certain that the mercs will stay loyal to you? When your money loses value and food and water is scarce they have little reason to stay loyal to you and guard your food while their families are starving.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >a pound of meat now costs $500
      >why yes mr mercenary, I will pay you $1000 a day. You should be thankful
      The peasant fortresses that will form will easily repell your larperator hoard. Imagine every house with two to five rifles sticking out, then your goons try to walk down the street. They wont remain loyal for very long.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        I don't think you understand how economics or humans work. But that's fine - The ignorant will gleefully go towards the slaughter.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Okay moron, you will pay your mercenary army to lay siege to towns.
          For them to remain effective, they will need
          >food
          >fuel
          >ammunition
          >medicine
          >equipment (ie: truck radiator gets shot out)
          If you have a hundred men, and they are willing to work in poor conditions, you will need to buy each man at least one meal per day. You will need to fuel their gas guzzling trucks to haul their material, and manpower from place to place. You will need to cover their ammunition cost (which if you think its expensive now, just wait until this scenario is even possible).
          You will need to pay for the medicine for their wounded.
          On top of all of this, they wont want to work a dangerous job just to eat when they can live safer and wealthier by joining a farming town, so they will want a little something extra.
          Youre right. Each man will cost MUCH more than a thousand dollars a day. Do you have the money to pay, lets lowball and say 100k daily, for a month? This is assuming you have 100 men of course. You want an army to raze a countryside, and a hundred men is not exactly a large force when small suburbs will regularly, and easily rally a militia of that size, with defenders advantage. Even assuming your mercenaries are worth 4 peasants each, you will gain a twon or two before total combat inefectiveness, anf you will need months to strip the town of shit to sell and resuply your goons. Simply not feasible for anything but being a highwayman.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >people who are a few days away starvation will work for my fun money from the before times
          >they will risk their lives for me
          >they will do what I want
          >and they’ll happily hand over the resources they find because of said fun money
          What an absolutely abhorrent post.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Based. Stupid fricking fancy boy thinks his army of mercs would rather fight for scraps against armed people fighting for their lives when they could just pull out his eyes or peel his skin off until he hands over his incredible riches.
            Literal merchant mentality. Let him get what he deserves.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              >his incredible riches
              Unless it’s a hard asset it’s not riches. Stocks will mean frick all and paper money will be for whipping your ass or starting a fire. Nobody with the skill sets some wannabe warlord is looking for would agree to fight for worthless currency. They wouldn’t even give him the time of day. They’d be more likely to cast their lot with the peasants because they can grow food and have a community that can be trained into a militia.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >muddy road
      Costs 30 bucks for me.
      Costs 30k + hazard pay for you

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Your fake money is gonna mean dick all when WROL kicks off. Blood ties and bonds of toil are worth far more. Your hired help will soon question whether the pay is worth it once they see the desecrated corpses of their pack mates. That's assuming they don't rob you and go into business for themselves.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      The point of an economic colapse is that your money isn't worth shit anymore. The people who are gonna get through it are the ones that are armed and in big groups. Your money won't help you much after.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      You're so badass

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      A little bit of cyanide will do the trick.

  8. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >we are on the verge of civilization collapse
    No we aren't
    Stop listening to happeninggays

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      grid would have to turn off. shit is getting worse though, I grew up in rural texas and there is way too many west coast homosexuals showing up. if they're leaving their ruined shit hole, it's getting bad. i expect if grid ever turned off civ will fall though. Black folk will nig and I will kill anyone who isn't my neighbor/fren and steps on my land.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Yes, if power goes down nationwide for 3 days or more, there will be major disruptions to everyday life including food riots
        That's why it won't happen
        The Powers That Be won't let anything jeopardize their stranglehold on the world, especially major happenings

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          they like to control the slaves with "bread and circus". after realizing that on acid. I can't unsee and unthink it. the elites try to play God and will use their little magic wand of electricity to keep us happy. if it ever turns off for more than a day. you know it was planned and they want us to eat one another alive. i know I'm right. we'll see what happens fren. I am one of those that knows there is bad in control but the good players are out there too. i'm one of the good players. sucks the elites are so blinded by $$$ to help humanity. I've seen lots of UFOs anon and after buying gen 3 pvs 7 to see them better. the people in charge are so bad they intentionally held us all back. lied to everyone

          blog over. i ranted.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >blog over. i ranted.
            It's ok
            I agree that if the grid goes down it will be intentional and premeditated
            I don't agree with a lot of the rest of what you said, but we're all frens here

            I wish you good fortune in the wars to come

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              >if the grid goes down
              If the grid goes down, we're all dead within 11 days due to petrochemical plants safety systems failing, gas lines igniting and the fallout and release of enough hydrocarbons to us into suffocating fish and dehumanise the planet.
              After about 100,000 years, carbon dioxide would return to prehuman levels, and the surviving wildlife would be as their predomesticated ancestors.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              That pic is beyond comfy

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              Hook it to my veins

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            I believe hell is a paradise like earth but run by israelites and populated with Black person demons.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              ...oh no.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              Hehehehahahahahahhohohohohohohogohoho

              One man's heaven...

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              Jews stole Eden from the rest of us

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Ben Rich lied, moron.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Why did you need acid to realize it is all a sham?

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >The Powers That Be won't let anything jeopardize their stranglehold on the world, especially major happenings
          They released a engineered virus to start a pandemic which resulted in an entire summer of riots and the effective implosion of social order in the West. Now they are warning us of food shortages and power shortages. Out of any of the events of the past few years, what tells you the monied interests who openly say we should die actually want us to live? Are you fricking moronic?

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >pandemic
            Planned, and almost no deaths. Purpose - expand control via CDC and WHO
            >riots
            Affected nobody but the people whose businesses were burned down
            >implosion of social order
            Things look fine to me, you're in the /misc/ bubble
            >food and power shortages
            Further control - "Do what we say and your power will stay on"
            In this case it's "Turn off your lights/computers/gadgets, and don't drive"

            The world is not ending
            This is all according to plan
            They don't want you dead because you're the ones making them richer and more powerful

            Nothing ever happens

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              >You are entering a dystopian NWO
              >Nothing ever happens
              ???

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              >ur just in a bubble
              >says the man with his head in the sand
              Lol Whatever helps you sleep at night I guess.
              >The world is not ending
              >This is all according to plan
              >They don't want you dead because you're the ones making them richer and more powerful
              >Nothing ever happens
              They are on record saying global depopulation is mandatory for the planet to survive. You’re a witness to their plan unfolding but think it’s nothing because of a delusional belief the elites want us around. They don’t. They want you dead and will try to convince you it’s for your own good. You’re looking at a tree and missing the forest.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              People who believe the people upstairs are incapable of error are the worst kind of morons.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              That might be a better world, hope you are right, I might just watch/draw anime and shit on public art school teachers online if that were true.

  9. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    city apartment

  10. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Been watching homesteaders on israelitetube actually thinking about getting the frick out. It's a weird mix of leftist queers and /misc/ chicks like this one https://youtu.be/-L40wof9T-w

  11. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    But I do 😀

  12. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Left the suburbs 5 years ago. Moved half way across the country. Bought 30 acres with fruit trees and some pasture. Now raising sheep and egg 50 egg layers. We already processed out meat birds and have arounf 200lbs of processed chicken in the freezer.

  13. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >you have 10 seconds to explain

    Biden bucks, government job.
    Go dig in the dirt, you wienersucking troony.

    You Will Never Be Self Sufficient.

  14. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    1. I can't afford it.
    2. Government wouldn't allow it.
    3. Black folk would steal everything.

  15. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Land is too expensive and it's all within driving distance of the nearest city anyway. It's going to be Left 4 Dead over here regardless of how prepared you are.

  16. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >a self sufficient homestead
    not easily defendable.
    learn to dig in and work with what's around you.
    your "ideal utopia" is just rose tinted solitude

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      With this attic hole the only thing you will see is the horizon or the trees in front of your house.

  17. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I've been collecting Air Miles Reward Miles diligently for over 25yrs in anticipation of this. I will cash in my rewards for FREE DoorDash delivery.
    No food at grocery store? Enjoy dying chuds I will be Amazon shipping hot meals or cooking my premium Chefs Plate which is brought to my door every week.
    Good luck in the global famine crisis with that pathetic little garden, may be I'll even order a steak dinner while you are dying lmao.
    Literally hate rightoids and their pathetic "self sufficient" lifestyle. Bye chuds.

  18. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I cant afford land, because in the region I live, 1 acre is often valued over 100k. In the poorer, rural areas, it runs 20k for a shitty, rocky plot. I spend most of my money on tools so that I can work. I cannot get a loan because I have no credit (not bad credit, but rather Ive always paid everything up front in cash, and my bills have never been reported for my score, despite me asking for it.). I cannot rent an apartment because I have no credit, and every aplication is turned down. I cannot get a credit card, and the reason all the credit card companies site, is that I have no credit score. I am stuck, at 21, living at home, and my folks are moving out in the next couple of years, and refuse to sell me the house, or even rent it to me. I am locked out of the game, but I have a solution.

    I have been mapping out various hidden areas, mostly hidden by trees or tall grass in land plots that noone cares for, or will ever buy. I intend to build an underground shelter in a large plot, hidden from the overworld. On the many dozens of small plots, I will grow food, and hide chicken coops. The israelite fears the stealth farmer.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      You're not even trying. Go get a personal loan at the bank for like $500 bucks and then pay it back and you'll have credit. Alternatively, Discover will open a $500 credit limit card to pretty much anyone.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      You're lying. No credit people are exactly who credit card companies want. My first credit card I got, I was 19, with obviously no credit. Had a $300 limit. You're a lying Black person with bad credit, and even then you can still get a credit card easily with high interest rates, because that's the second type of person companies want. Before you call me a boomer, I just turned 30.

  19. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I plan to eat humans. If the human has homestead plot. All the better because there's something to eat with the meat.

  20. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Cause its hard not to depend on someone for something. I make maple syrup and garden plus raise meat birds and hunt and it would never be enough to survive on.

  21. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    rejoice at the collapse of civilization and then step on the same rake. imagine the mind of this npc.
    THE PRIVATE SECTOR IS A REAL BRAKE ON PROGRESS, AND YOU AND YOUR KIND SHOULD BE ELIMINATED FIRST.

  22. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >you have 10 seconds to explain why you don't have a self sufficient homestead right now
    I have a plan to design a micronation system that everyone in america can adopt so that we can balkanize and decentralize everything. I'm calling it, "the village system". Here's how it works:

    >make or adopt a new currency (preferably decentralized)
    >encourage people to use it by creating incentives
    >start a non profit/NGO group
    >receive funding from like minded people
    >use funds to design infrastructure and buy materials to create infastructure
    >start building
    >encourage people to move in
    >more people moving in = more potential capital
    >repeat from step 4 until your new micronation is self sustainable enough to draw people in by itself

    In no time, we could have places like picrel.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >encourage people to move in

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      oh, and i forgot. ignore eminent domain

      >encourage people to move in

      Well, encouraging people to move in depends largely on what you have in store for them. If they start donating to you, then you've already lured them in. The political, social or economic belief system of your choice is what will draw like minded people in so you'll have to drive that point home.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >new currency
      you will be arrested immediately. You can create a decentralized economy just not with your own money, many have tried and are still in fed prison like that lolbertarian guy with his printed prommissary notes based on gold, all the egold people, all the liberty reserve ppl...
      Crypto is a ponzi and can't be used yet for real commerce.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >you will be arrested immediately.
        This won't happen if i brutally fight them off. Violence is the only thing that the state understands. This blackpilled mentality of yours gets your nowhere.

        >You can create a decentralized economy just not with your own money, many have tried and are still in fed prison like that lolbertarian guy with his printed prommissary notes based on gold, all the egold people, all the liberty reserve ppl...
        I can create a decentralized economy and a new currency that cannot be controlled by feds. A hybrid currency that can be obtained by buying it with cryptocurrencies like monero and minted into physical form for trading with fiat is something that feds will never be able to keep track of. Inventing ways to obfuscate information from the government and devising schemes to create parallel structures of influence is your ticket out of authoritarianism.

        >Crypto is a ponzi and can't be used yet for real commerce.
        ICO scams aren't representative of crypto in all of it's entirety, leaf. That being said, crypto doesn't come without criticism. Hash rates are easy to speculate on which leads to pumping and dumping, which is also why you see so much volatility in the markets. A digital currency that doesn't revolve around the model of mining cuts this risk out entirely.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Any idea for civilization that begins in currency will end in failure. Currency was always a fricking moronic idea. Humans existed for literally millions of years without it, but every since inventing it, for some reason we can never get rid of corruption or economic inequality or decadence. How odd.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >Any idea for civilization that begins in currency will end in failure. Currency was always a fricking moronic idea. Humans existed for literally millions of years without it, but every since inventing it, for some reason we can never get rid of corruption or economic inequality or decadence. How odd.

        Not really. Civilization just needs to be tenable enough for it to function by itself. Individual creativity and originality has been suppressed during the last century and that's the real problem. Centralization and totalitarianism has been our default for too long. America was created to break that cycle but since we still have people in charge, corruption was always a given.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >Not really.
          Yes. Really. It's why your stupid civilizations won't stop collapsing. You're just too greedy and dumb to register it.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >Yes. Really. It's why your stupid civilizations won't stop collapsing. You're just too greedy and dumb to register it.
            I gave you the reason why is keeps collapsing, dumbfrick. Putting people in charge of your life is the dumbest thing you can possibly do.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              You gave me an effect, not a cause.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >You gave me an effect, not a cause.
                Giving up your rights to one or a group of less capable morons is the primary cause.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Lol you fricking idiot. Do you think the average Egyptian citizen had rights? They were literally ruled by a god king and their society lasted longer than any other in human history.

                Money is Weakness.
                Immorality is Weakness.
                Modernity is Weakness.
                You will never be a real civilization.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >Lol you fricking idiot.
                Says the one who can't put two and two together.

                >Do you think the average Egyptian citizen had rights? They were literally ruled by a god king and their society lasted longer than any other in human history.
                Black person, listen. If you prioritize your own happiness, try your best to live as comfortably as possible and some fricking idiot tries to stop you because he has delusions of granduer, you don't bend over and take it up the ass. You fight back. None of us fought back against the elites in the 20th century. None of us implemented the wide range of solutions that can erase the need for dictatorships. We never tried. Do you get it now? The solution is to prioritize the individual and not the state.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Your poisonous mentality was cultivated by centuries of judaic mental and cultural infection. Human societies have never been individualist until the modern era. The era of death.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >Human societies have never been individualist until the modern era.
                >he thinks that the age of 1984 style governments censoring, arresting, and impoverishing people is all about individualism
                You're clearly out of touch. Continue thinking that your gay ass fuhrer will come and save you moron. See you later dipshit. Good luck with your blackpills.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Poor simple goy. Nothing but a consumer animal for your masters while believing yourself a tiny king. You neither know history nor wish to learn any lesson from it, because your israeli masters have convinced you that anything before 2000 years ago never happened.

                What a moron.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >Poor simple goy. Nothing but a consumer animal for your masters while believing yourself a tiny king.
                Says the one who thinks that the same system of authoritarianism is the answer. Delusional homosexual.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Like I said. Perfect McCitizen. Don't even know history. Even if you did, I'm positive your pea brain couldn't cull any lessons from it since 13 years of public indoctrination have taught you critical thinking is wrongthink.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                I'm done talking to your moronic ass. Go swallow your own black pills somewhere else. homosexual.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                You pay taxes don't you.

                Have you figured how much it costs to liquidate you?

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                He's never stepped out into the real world nor has he ever understood objective reality outside of the lens of neetsoc ideology.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Lol come try it.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                So 30 bucks.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      That's a good way to get murdered by feds. To make it work, you'd have to build either a monastery or a 18-19th century open air museum where people live and work 24/7.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >That's a good way to get murdered by feds.
        They can't murder anyone if their victims fight back.

        >To make it work, you'd have to build either a monastery or a 18-19th century open air museum where people live and work 24/7.
        How the frick is that better than what i proposed?

  23. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Im too poor and not clever enough to get better job i work as male nurse so my life is just one big disappointment. I hope i die soon once SHTF. I wish i wasnt born and live my poor life. If i wasnt such coward i would rope myself at work in hospital.

  24. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >why you don't have a self sufficient homestead
    Because I'm not "on the verge of civilization collapse"

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      For you it's already happened.

  25. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    im just gonna live on the outside of one and nibble off small portions like a rabbit

  26. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Forming a cannibal gang. You can eat get fat and soft on your high carb diet just don't blame me when you're my steaming turd.

  27. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >you have 10 seconds to explain why you don't have a self sufficient homestead right now
    Because I love violence and am looking forward to dying in a fiery blaze as I kill all the homeless drug addicts, local corrupt politicians, and criminals in a 5 mile radius of my home.

  28. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I can't afford the land. It's my top priority to get one (before my partner and I are 30). In the meantime I am learning how to grow stuff and collecting resources.

  29. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I'm working on building the skill set. It's not something that can easily be done on your own, those skills and that infrastructure are supposed to be maintained and passed down across generations, but the last 3 generations completely neglected that responsibility. It isn't going to be rebuilt overnight.

  30. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >you have 10 seconds to explain why you don't have a self sufficient homestead right now
    Because the Lefty vegan homosexual couple down the road from my house already do and the last time I was forced to speak to them by my wife they mentioned getting rid of their one gun they owned due to Uvalde shooting. So. I have a farm.

  31. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Agricola is dope.

  32. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    police keep tearing it down whenever I build one, last one I almost didn't escape in time and had to leave behind my ammunition factory

  33. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I live in the UK.

  34. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    No money. No farmable land anywhere near me.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Es que vives en una ciudad cagadero donde hay puras feminacas y jotos de la LGTB. Ponte a chambear en el potrero en un ejido y ahi compras terrenos, puto.

  35. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I have 2000qm of good land but I can tell you one thing for sure: It's not actually that easy to grow food on actually free land. It's much easier to use high beds, containers, pots, roof above them, etc. Growing food on actually free land like in your picture takes a whole lot of dedication, knowledge and time. And chemicals. I'd recommend the easier method to anyone actually wanting to grow food.

  36. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    berlin is full of rentners and vegans
    ill eat them and take over the kleingarten the rentners had

  37. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Because I’m suicidal

  38. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    What a homosexualy setup. Your garden is unprotected. Black folk will steal your watermelons and you can't do shit. Fricking coastal yankee homosexual.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      if you live within 100 miles of any dark colored folks, you've done fricked up

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        After the fall? You really haven't thought this through, have you?

  39. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I can't get things done if I have too much time. It's much easier to get motivated when you are starving and freezing and you are eating moss and snow to survive.

  40. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    what little land I do have if i cleared more trees to grow it would be much easier to see from the road

  41. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    jews

  42. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >muh self suffici-

    A horde of marauding raiders has just turned up on your doorstep? What will you do? You won’t do shit lmao

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Coming from a bong who cant even own a steak knife. America is quite different than you think.

  43. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Que pasa pandejo

  44. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Because i'm building it, take time, the quails are producing a amazing number of eggs though, didn't expected that, 10 of my 50 tilapia died through the month and i don't know why, the water parameters are all fine

  45. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    No weapons to defend my veggies from hungry hordes

  46. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Can’t afford it.
    Won’t help when the shit hits anyway
    /Thread

  47. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Because it's expensive as frick.

  48. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Your homestead will be nuked or raided.

  49. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I don't have $1,000,000 at hand to buy and renovate a property like that

  50. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    No money. 🙁

  51. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I am too spiritually and mentally fricked for that shit if i am lucky enough i would clint eastwood myself out of the situation

  52. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    The best way to actually go about building a nation-state or polis is to offer people a better alternative to what they have currently, with prospects for even more upward mobility. Majority of people will be wage slaving, living in an apartment, crushed by debt and having trouble balancing work, social life, romance and solitude. If you can offer them a way out, and a significantly better quality of life, then they will follow your lead even if its just for the opportunity to live a better life.

    If you are wealthy enough to afford land and knowledgeable enough to build your own house out of natural materials like cob, hay bales, lime plaster and timber framing you already have a good chance of attracting people. Give them real skills via homesteading and a chance to carve their own path then more than likely they will follow you to the ends of the earth.

    The best idea would be to:
    >Buy land, learn how to build house
    >Rely on wood stoves and learn homesteading skills
    >Build wealth, knowledge and physical goods
    >Build a second house and invite in trustworthy, like minded people and require limited monetary input (10% of their monthly income) and instead have them aid you
    >Use the extra help to expand and build more dwellings while teaching them skills
    >rinse/repeat until you have a large tax base to start purchasing more land and building actual industry like firing kilns for pottery/bricks, smithies, glass blowers/recycling, mills ect.

  53. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I don’t plan on lasting long.

  54. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    No money.

  55. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Because all I know how to grow is potatoes and tomatoes. I suck ass with plants

  56. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I'm more of the spontanious type

  57. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    how long for civilization to collapse? two more weeks?

  58. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Because nuclear fallout would render growing most crops useless.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Fallout is a meme. Nukes are not real

  59. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Id rather die

  60. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I have zero intention of surviving a collapsed civilization

  61. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Because I’m looking forward to dying and never coming back to this homosexual earth

  62. 2 years ago
    Sage

    Because 150 million feral Black person people will tear apart everything once shit collapses.

  63. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Imagine creating a farm like this, looking insane to everyone around you, then feeling smug when it pays off for about a week before it's confiscated and you're shot/gulaged.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      I grew up near one it was pretty cool.

  64. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Why should I waste time, resources, and energy doing this when I can just rob my neighbors at gunpoint should a total collapse occur.

  65. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    how much does a self sufficient homestead for 4 people in your country cost? I would imagine thats at least 1 million € here and I am only thinking of me my parents and my brother...

  66. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >minimum 5 acres of land per person
    >family of 5 = 25 acres
    >land costs from £200,000 - £600,000 per acre dependant on potential use
    >assume 5 acres is buildable for residential use and 20 acres arable
    >(600,000*5)+(200,000*20)=7,000,000
    >£7,000,000 = ~$8,564,000.00
    >average salary is ~£22,915 after tax
    >"why don't you have a self sufficient homestead"

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      For actual self sufficiency you want a quarter of an acre per person to maybe a third for some overhead. So 1.2 acres for just sustenance farming. If you want a wood stove you want 3-5 acres for wood foraging. So at most with a wood stove 6.5 acres, with no animals, possibly 8.5 with small animals like goats or chickens for plot rotations.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Black person you really think you can feed yourself year round on 1/4 of an acre? I would love to see that.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Depending on what I am growing and how, and if I have livestock or not. I live in an area where the growing season is long, so its quite possible for me to get two harvests from one plot, sometimes even three thanks to hot winters.

          The three sisters growing method is really useful and saves a shit ton of space, time and energy. Potatoes are great as well, and if planted in a raised bed, covered with mulch and left to flower than you can easily harvest them. I would really like to try the potato boxes, but I havent had the time.
          Chickens don't require much space, nor feed and give you breakfast everyday. You will end up with far more than you will need in terms of eggs.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      5 acres of land per person
      Oh shut up you absolute imbecile

  67. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Land is expensive and working hard scares me.

  68. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    No amount of larping would save you from the fact that your McFantasy requires you controlling a hidden source of clean water.
    >b-but muh guns
    Enjoy being shot like cattle by the Coca-Cola mercs.

  69. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I don’t know how and get paid well right now. Hard to take the risk. Don’t want it to fail.

  70. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >spend your life setting up a bugout homestead
    >greatly anticipated habbening finally arrives
    >local militias kill you and take it over

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Its why you don't homestead alone and build communities with fortifications like castle towns or oppidums. By the time SHTF you will probably have a handful of industries in your polis if you are headed for total self sufficiency.
      >Glass making/recycling
      >Lumber mills
      >Compost heaps
      >Kilns for pottery/bricks and places for mortar making
      >Arguably tanneries depending on how much land you have
      >possibly smiths/metal workers
      >skilled craftsman and most of your population being generalists instead of specialists

  71. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >Karl Marx's "10 Planks" to seize power and destroy freedom:
    >Abolition of Property in Land and Application of all Rents of Land to Public Purpose.
    >A Heavy Progressive or Graduated Income Tax.
    >Abolition of All Rights of Inheritance.
    >Confiscation of the Property of All Emigrants and Rebels.
    >Centralization of Credit in the Hands of the State, by Means of a National Bank with State Capital and an Exclusive Monopoly.
    >Centralization of the Means of Communication and Transport in the Hands of the State.
    >Extension of Factories and Instruments of Production Owned by the State, the Bringing Into Cultivation of Waste Lands, and the Improvement of the Soil Generally in Accordance with a Common Plan.
    >Equal Liability of All to Labor. Establishment of Industrial Armies, Especially for Agriculture.
    >Combination of Agriculture with Manufacturing Industries; Gradual Abolition of the Distinction Between Town and Country by a More Equable Distribution of the Population over the Country.
    >Free Education for All Children in Public Schools. Abolition of Children's Factory Labor in it's Present Form. Combination of Education with Industrial Production.
    Communists are not fond of letting people own property.

  72. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    A perma garden would be a better choice because it's not recognisable by many unlike a plot full of wheat fields and vegetable gardens.

  73. 2 years ago
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  74. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >just slave away LARPing as a medieval peasant 18 hours a day to all merely sustain your pointless existence bro
    >NOOO you can't use technology or enjoy the fruits of civilization and progress you have to live like an animal

  75. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Death Valley Bro is HAWAIIAN. He is NOT WHITE. He has spent a majority of his life IN JAIL for being a scumbag criminal piece of shit. He lives "off the grid" to AVOID PAYING CHILD SUPPORT for multiple bastard children all over the country. He is tricking you into WORKING FOR HIM FOR FREE. holy frick you homosexuals are fricking stupid, i hope you get caught up with this frick because you deserve it.

  76. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I can't afford even a mobile home in my country

  77. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Suicidal

  78. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I'm poor, stupid and lazy.

  79. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    because they'll just fry it with space lazors like they did to the cattle and meat packing plants

  80. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Take the yachtpill anons

    >Can liveaboard yacht pre collapse
    >Can go anywhere in the world during the collapse
    >Can carry a ton of food on board and fish for more as you sail
    >Diesel powered boats won't get very far during the collapse, minimises pirates
    >Sit out at sea in relative safety while planning where to flee to
    >Even if the collapse doesn't happen you can have an adventure

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Based brit demonstrating genetic memory.

  81. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    If you can survive the first few weeks of SHTF where the plebs all stampede each other in the grocery stores and mass murder each other, you'll be fine

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