So it's confirmed?

So it's confirmed PrepHole Russia is really using SU-57 but this doesn't mean that we can expect T-14 in Ukraine

  1. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >infantry doctrine is to send human waves
    >air force doctrine is to be risk-averse
    I don't get these people.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >people are worthless
      >planes are expensive
      here you go anon

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I mean, yeah, I get that approach. But the point of a war, especially an offensive war, isn't exactly to just balance a budget but to make military progress on the ground. For that you need a unified strategy.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          If you articulate your goals you can fail to meet them.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        This, a plane takes a lot of money and resources to build, a mobik only needs a gopnik, a gopnitsa and a bottle of vodka.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Several bottles of Vodka. Have you seen how Vatniks drink?

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          two bottles, one for the child to suck on when they're born.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Silly Anon. Infants don't get vodka. It's way too expensive to waste on them while they're babies. They get an old vodka bottle filled with denatured wood spirits.
            Only when they're old enough to physically overpower and rape the relative that's lowest on the totem pole. So by the time they're 5 or 6 basically, there's always some uncle or cousin that's on the verge of death by liver failure or some aunt crippled by late-stage AIDS and krokodil abuse to go to town on and get your rapist-game flexed.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It's simple anon, felons are disposable, FELONS are not disposable.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >r*ssians
      >people

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >vatniks and risk averse stealth planes
      Those jets are just waiting for a smoking accident to happen.and stealth wont help with anything

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Infantry have non-Whites with guns behind them to shoot them if they refuse to run into MG fire.

      Air force has no barrier troops so they're free to dogfuck constantly.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It`s like a car salesman that wants to push you that shitbox that been sitting on the yard forever, of course he wont let you do a test-drive, no refunds sirs.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >infantry doctrine is to send human waves
      That's not how they fight

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        They don't do human wave attacks, that's the other guys. These days they've been going in hard on artillery and they can use the tanks now. Look at how Bakhmut is going, they're just shelling the piss out of everything.

        lol, lmao even

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Meat cheap and breeds itself, plane expensive and can't be reliably replaced thanks to corruption.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      doctrine is to send human waves
      >>air force doctrine is to be risk-averse
      >I don't get these people.
      how ass-fucking stupid are you nafo gays?
      >send multiple felon murderers in cannon charge
      >save expensive air-craft and pilot
      its that fucking simple

      how hard is this for your common-core, drug rotted brains?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Bear in mind that when Soviet Union collapsed, most of the high-tech parts (such as space and aviation technology) was left in UKRAINE.

      Some of the stuff russian airforce uses, IT CAN NOT MAKE MORE. It's like literal lost tehnology for russians. They are merely maintaining what they have. Their own production capacity is small or in some cases, non-existant.

      That's one of the reasons why Russia wanted to swallow Ukraine. If you try LARPing a superpower, it's really hard to do if you lost the majority of your production base. Ukraine was always the technological powerhouse of soviet union. That's why it's of strategic importance to get it back, if Russia wants to keep having their importance as a world superpower.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        and yet Ukrain left it to rot. The potential for their industry has downgraded significantelly since the fall of soviet union

        🙂

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      A good pilot takes 15 years to train and costs millions of dollars.
      Plane itself can be impossible to make and maintain even if you have the money.
      Air force = precious
      Army = not so precious

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The trouble is, is that they really don't have that many planes.
      The lost of twenty of one type of plane would reduce their total numbers down by 15-45%, as they never make more than 200 or so in a single production run.
      As for people, they can always get more people for next to nothing comparatively speaking, so it makes sense to use them more recklessly.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Another aspect I've heard mentioned elsewhere, is that the Russian airforce is considered the comfiest, most prestigious gig in the military, so all the oligarch sons and other influential-types that want to play soldier get in there. So losing pilots has a triple threat from the political ramifications of getting the relatives of important people killed.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >air force doctrine is to use le advanced meme jets as airborne artillery from the safety of Russian airspace and hope the missile lands on it's target
      Fix'd. Turns out Cuckniks can't into SEAD

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        NATO can’t SEAD either, literally ONLY americans have that ability against a real army and air defence network.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          BASED retard.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Has the US ever actually attempted SEAD against a competent force?

            Could the US stomach the losses required for successful SEAD over s300/400?

            This is legitimate defence analysis, Russian and Ukrainian failures point to how much people have underestimated how specialised American expertise is.
            NATO needs to fill the gap immediately, procurement and training is being implemented already .
            https://rusi.org/explore-our-research/publications/rusi-defence-systems/getting-serious-about-sead-european-air-forces-must-learn-failure-russian-air-force-over-ukraine/

            Has the US ever actually attempted SEAD against a competent force?

            Could the US stomach the losses required for successful SEAD over s300/400?

            If America can’t do it nobody can but there is no such thing as impenetrable air defence, the spear is always at an advantage over any kind of shield.
            American experience, training and sheer resources is just unmatched in this field, complete aerial supremacy.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Has the US ever actually attempted SEAD against a competent force?

          Could the US stomach the losses required for successful SEAD over s300/400?

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Iraq's Air Defense network during the first gulf war was, on paper and in scale of defenses actually highly effective, that's why the American strikes had to be so tactically large scale.

            Someone post the Webm of the Gulf War air attacks to show how fucking much the US had to dump on Iraq just to take out it's air defense. We're talking hundreds of cruise missiles, large scale use of Stealth fighters, and multiple organized attacks from all directions.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              American SEAD masterclass in iraq sent shockwaves within russian defence circles because their air defence wasn’t that much better than iraq.
              Iraq used russian systems which although not the latest was assumed to be very formidable.
              Originally everyone gleefully sat with popcorn, expecting heavy american casualties.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      All y'all other Anon's are missing the point. Think about what kind of people fly fighter jets. Russia is as corrupt and nepotistics as any country can be without being a banana republic satire construct. The people in the meat waves are from the ass-end of shitmypantsville oblast. The fighter pilots aren't. Being a pilot is perceived as cool and sexy - even in Russia they've seen topgun. The pilots are the cold war era military officer's brats and lower-upper class sycophants.
      They quite literally don't send planes on suicide runs because they're piloted by the Russian equivalent to middle ages landholding lower nobility. I bet you none of the "pilots" out of whatever shitty pretend "fighter academy" institute come from a family outside the top 1% income demographic in Russia (which in Russia seemingly amounts to owning a functioning motorized vehicle and being paid currency instead of being paid in barter goods + whatever you can pilfer at work)

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They don't do human wave attacks, that's the other guys. These days they've been going in hard on artillery and they can use the tanks now. Look at how Bakhmut is going, they're just shelling the piss out of everything.

  2. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >su-57
    It has as much stealth as the f-18

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Legacy or super hornet?

  3. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >unironically posting state media

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Bong reports have been pretty accurate so far, the only source I have seen be more reliable are bong decodes.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        They're not reliable, they're propaganda from a British government mouthpiece. The BBC is funded directly by the state and cannot be trusted.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          What does it say about the war that British propaganda has been accurate?

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Everything the BBC has reported is speculative, and without any sources.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              And has been verified time after time after time by the continued Russian performance of the war.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              And yet still accurate, ain't that funny me old china

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              you are aware its coming from literal british intelligence and they themselves are the source?

              Only side who knows where everything russia owns is is nato. I'd listen to them.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >BBC is funded directly by the state and cannot be trusted.
          So, Vanya, I know it seems impossible to you because you live in a primitive and debased condition, but for many governments, it is quite normal to fund news and information gathering services that are independent, honest and objective, since they do not risk or fear punishment for telling the truth.
          I'm sorry you had to find out this way, I truly am.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Anon im not that runaway mobik but the BBC is far from honest and objective, the UK would be better off if they were allowed to let it fail and die.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              And who should we be watching instead, Vanya? The RT?
              Fuck off, the BBC is the most trustworthy and honest news agency in the entire world. They've never given a false report. Not once.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Fuck off, the BBC is the most trustworthy and honest news agency in the entire world. They've never given a false report. Not once.

                They literally covered up decades of child rape and lied about the number of migrants coming in

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Fuck off, Nigel.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                France is that way you cocksucker

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >he fell for the mainstream media le bad meme
                >cites a few examples where the ball was dropped
                >out of tens of thousands of concrete reports
                Pathetic.

              • 4 weeks ago
                sage

                BBC is unreliable when protecting the British Government
                They are the fucking gold standard for everything else
                hope this helps, they can be both things at the same time, I know this can confuse the average playdoh eating moron that infests this site

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          This isn't a statement from the BBC so why are you bringing them up?

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            The Ministry of Defense is not reliable, it’s propaganda from a British government mouthpiece. The MoD is funded directly by the state and cannot be trusted.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              What's that got to do with the BBC?

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >BBC
                Why are americans so obsessed with moron dicks

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >the British ministry of defence is funded by the British government
              Fucking hell anon what a revelation. Got any more pearls of wisdom for us?

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Why the fuck are you talking about reliability of the BBC when it's the British Defence Intelligence making an analysis for public use with no attempt at masquerading it as anything but that? Where's the dishonesty? What's the gotcha by screeching about the BBC being propaganda? It's pretty fucking obvious it's a state source and it's advertized as such.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          When have they been wrong?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      True I only trust RT and incel slava z.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      its not russian state media so they have no reason to lie.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Given the profits involved, they have every reason to lie.

  4. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Pleasepleasepleaseplease send these and the Armatas into Ukraine so there's footage of them.

  5. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Did they name the fucking planes FELON?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      We did, pretty much every time you see a Russian planes name it's the NATO reporting name.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      NATO code name for soviet/russian equipment

      Bombers start with B

      Badger = Tu-16
      Bear = Tu-95
      Blinder = Tu-22
      Blackjack = Tu-160
      Backfire = Tu-22M

      Fighter aircraft starts with F

      Fulcrum = MiG-29
      Flanker = Su-27
      Felon = Su-57
      Frogfoot = Su-25
      Fencer = Su-24
      Fishbed = MiG-21
      Flogger = MiG-23
      Foxbat = MiG-25
      Farmer = MiG-19
      Fagot = MiG-15 KEK

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous
      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Su-75 = Femboy

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          God, I hope so.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          God, I hope so.

          It came from reddit, the noncredibledefense sub, but it's a far superior name to the manufacturer's suggested callsign of "Checkmate", which doesn't follow NATO reporting standards and implies it will be somehow dominant in operations.
          As much as I hate to agree with reddit, "Femboy" is a far more apt name.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Fyi: two syllable names are for jets, one syllable names are for prop aircraft.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Russians use felons as troops
      >use FELONS as planes
      Sergei Brin was right, Nigeria with snow.

      Tourists go back

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        wait until they find out what a Mig-15 is called

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I still say the NATO reporting name for the Su-57 should be "Fuckface".

  6. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Russians use felons as troops
    >use FELONS as planes
    Sergei Brin was right, Nigeria with snow.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      FELON is NATO callsign.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Does russia have a name for it? Was the Su-75 reveal called Checkmate just because of salt over the Su-57's nato callsign?

  7. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Kek, does the bong MoD not realise that 5th gen jets are a meme?

  8. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    this governement funded source is obviously propagandic mouthpiece

  9. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >compromise of technology
    How is it a compromise when US trch shits all over it.

  10. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >reputational damage
    Russia has lost its economy and military. What in the fuck reputation do they have left?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They have a reputation for producing ok weapons for countries too poor or unwilling to buy western weapons.
      This is why it's so rare for Russia to send anything modern to Ukraine, they don't want potential customers watching it fail.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Yup, people might not buy the newest z-plane if it turned out that it can be easily shot down by western late cold war leftovers.

  11. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Has anyone been able to decode this yet?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      fresh from the machine

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >prioritising the anal damage, and the compromise of sensitive ass over Ukraine

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          that one was so easy that I' strongly suspecting they ACTUALLY want us to decode it

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Felon parked at Kremlin
        Are perhaps the Bongs implying something about Putin?

  12. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    If they are stealth how do they know that russians didnt use them over ukraine?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The better question is why did the glowies have 2 IR mirrors bigger than Hubble laying around? What could they possibly want to point a high res / high magnifcation IR camera at earth for?

      • 4 weeks ago
        RC-135 Rivet Joint

        finding exhaust ports and road mobile icbms.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Cleavage shots.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      State secret.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Stealth to targeting systems not to early warning radar.
      Can’t hide from radar just can’t get a weapon lock on them.

  13. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Can Patriot Missiles shoot them down?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The jets themselves? I don't know. IIRC, Patriot was designed to move quickly, but didn't have anti-ECM. They were built to kill the cruise missiles they'd be launching.

  14. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Akhtubinsk Air Base
    That's not further from Ukraine than Engels-2. They wouldn't hurt the SU-57s, r-right?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >UKDJ calls out position
      >three days later, mysterious explosions at Acktubinsk
      >all but one -57 whacked
      >armatard resurrected to mindbreak once more
      >fire at Su-57 production line, tooling wrecked
      if fucking only

  15. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I suspected they were using them much the same as the MiG 31. Brits confirmed it, noice

  16. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous
    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The Ministry of Defense is not reliable, it’s propaganda from a British government mouthpiece. The MoD is funded directly by the state and cannot be trusted.

      oh my god.. how did nobody tell me this before? how long have you all known the the ministry of defense was a part of the uk government??

      we need to go to the press at once!

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      this argument is one of the most retarded arguments i have ever seen what reason does British intelligence have to lie retard?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        the joke
        (you)

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      [...]
      oh my god.. how did nobody tell me this before? how long have you all known the the ministry of defense was a part of the uk government??

      we need to go to the press at once!

      Holy shit he cracked the case!

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Did you know? The UK Ministry of Defense is .... part of the British government!!

      Surprised? So was I ........

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I thought it was a church

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This is an amazing piece of information that has been a closely guarded State Sekrit. Until now.

      Can I play along?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        My take-away from this:
        Federal Agency of Government Communications and Information
        FAPSI
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FAPSI

        >FAPSI (Russian: ФAПCИ) or Federal Agency of Government Communications and Information (FAGCI) (Russian: Фeдepaльнoe Aгeнтcтвo Пpaвитeльcтвeннoй Cвязи и Инфopмaции) was a Russian government agency, which was responsible for signal intelligence and security of governmental communications.

        >The present-day FAPSI successor agencies are the relevant departments of the Federal Security Service (FSB) and Foreign Intelligence Service (SVR) as well as the Special Communications Service of Russia (Spetssvyaz) (part of the Federal Protective Service of the Russian Federation) (FSO RF).

        >FAPSI was created from the 8th Main Directorate (Government Communications) and 16th Directorate (Electronic Intelligence) of the KGB. It is the equivalent to the USA National Security Agency. On September 25, 1991, Soviet president Mikhail Gorbachev dismantled the KGB into several independent departments. One of them became the Committee on Government Communications under the President of Soviet Union. On December 24, 1991 after the disbanding of the Soviet Union the organization became the Federal Agency of Government Communications and Information under the President of Russian Federation.

        >On March 11, 2003 the agency was reorganized into the Service of Special Communications and Information (Spetssvyaz, Spetssviaz) (Russian: Cлyжбa cпeциaльнoй cвязи и инфopмaции) of the Federal Security Service of the Russian Federation (FSB RF). On August 7, 2004, Spetssviaz was incorporated as a structural sub unit of the Federal Protective Service of the Russian Federation (FSO RF).

  17. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Hang on, are you guys saying the British MoD is funded by the British government? What the fuck why isn't everyone talking about this?

  18. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >it's confirmed Russia is really using SU-57
    It would be bad if something happened to it.

  19. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >"have almost certainly used"
    >So it's confirmed
    average illiterate burger

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      "Almost Certainly" means a 95% chance in British Government terms. So you are the one who does not know what they are talking about.

  20. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    General Milley said Russia has lost "5th generation fighters" in a press briefing last month. I timestamped it here.

    ?t=2013

  21. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I see the Russian have yet to master enclosed hangar technology, or even the technique of "throwing a fucking tarp over your incredibly expensive, utterly irreplaceable equipment so it doesn't turn up on *commercially available* satellite imagery, you stupid fucking vatniks."

  22. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >this doesn't mean that we can expect T-14 in Ukraine
    They'd have to possess a functioning one first.

  23. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Drone visit when?

  24. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    All these posts and not a single decode.
    >SON I AM DISSAPOINT

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      britbong updates threads have been pretty rare lately but yeah disappointing nonetheless

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