Yeah I've always wondered this. Every NATO soldier has probably killed at least one Dunic civilian and Russia at least had China. Where the frick does the Chinese army fight and train? I don't think I've ever seen anything about the Chinese army fighting in overseas wars. All their soldiers would be completely unbloodied and would probably freak the frick out.
South korea men are terrorised daily by their female population, they would surrender ASAP due to low morale
Turkey would collapse within 1 month
Israel would put up a good fight but won't be able to occupy that much land.
If Ukraine hadn't received copious amounts of Western help, they most certainly would have fell within about 3 months. This war is Russia vs the West with Ukraine as the battleground.
Nah, I don't think so, the northern offensive was awful, and it would have eventually been stopped even with home grown defensive rockets, just not as fast.
The Ukies certainly wouldn't be able to make such reverse gains so quickly into the war without western help for sure.
But wars are never disconnected from external politics, trying to theorise what other countries could be an imperialistic aggressor state is kind of a moot point when they don't want to be, or set their army up to be in the first place.
Yeah it's like going: >This nation that hasn't attacked anyone in 80 years because it doesn't want to, would be shit at offensive warfare with the defensive army its built up
Any nation in Europe has the capability to do what Russia did in Ukraine.
250,000 soldiers with reserves is peanuts really in the scheme of things, and 3000 tanks could have been shat out in less than 10 years by pretty much any European state if the will was strong enough with relative ease.
France
UK
Turkey
South Korea
Pakistan
Iran
India
Vietnam
South Africa
And probably a lot more considering they're invading someone RIGHT ON THEIR BORDER where the capital is like 50km from their staging point.
I reckon even African nations could manage it.
Did anyone predict that they wouldn't be able to win this though. I never would have believed it could get to this stage. Even when they were losing a few months ago after the initial withdrawal I was like it's just gonna take longer. Now it looks like it was never possible.
>Did anyone predict that they wouldn't be able to win this though.
I didn't, but a few anons here said the Ukrainians were way more professional and would win. I thought there would be a long and brutal occupation with a monstrous guerrilla campaign.
Did anyone predict that they wouldn't be able to win this though. I never would have believed it could get to this stage. Even when they were losing a few months ago after the initial withdrawal I was like it's just gonna take longer. Now it looks like it was never possible.
Russia should have been smart enough to avoid starting a war it couldn't win. At the very least don't start a war and get abjectly humiliated.
The truth is, only East Euros knew what to expect from Puccia, especially Ukrainians. The rest of the world, including most informed people, assumed it would be over after a week at most.
During and after the Battle of Kiev I mildly believed the Ukies might be able to pull it off. The fact that they didn't steamroll them in the first week raised some eyebrows
But you haven't taken them out, moron. The only thing Russia is going to win from this war is taking Ukraine's title as being the poorest nation in Europe
It is a tradition, Russia only works with a strong leader in power like Stalin or something, Russians tend to follow people who force them to do this and in the same time by example, it is so tiresome...
ANY IDEA WHAT A MILITARY IS AND WHAT IS SUPPOSE TO DO. >None of this israelite century. Im talking protecting your land from invaders, not pump up someone stock portfolio
They never actually evolved past their serf days under the Tsars. >Never developed a proper NCO system to allow for proper flexibility and speed of response within their military >Never fricking developed pallets or an equivalent so their logistical system is completely and utterly FRICKED and slower at moving anything and everything that could be stacked into a pallet by a quantity equal to how many of whatever the frick could fit onto said pallet... >Never fixed their fricked culture that turned to drugs, alcohol, and corruption in order to cope with the problems the common people faced in society, so everyone is constantly destroying themselves and the systems they work under slowly but surely >Never got rid of their stupidly rigid facist bullshit so people will lie about everything to themselves and others to save their position, ass, and butthole... and thus they are blind to their problems
>Why the frick is Russia so bad at war?
War is a pretty good test for uncovering all the flaws in a military and government. Russia is a society where uncovering or discussing these flaws can cost someone their freedom or their life, so they tend not to be discussed. Undiscussed problems tend to go unsolved. Now Russia is finding itself in a situation where its military and government have a lot of issues bubbling to the surface, and it's scrambling to try and adapt and overcome.
Russians are not a warrior race. Never have been. >originally were a bunch of disunited agrarian tribes >their region was such a mess that they eventually asked the Norsemen (warrior race) to come over and rule >Norsemen (called "Rus" or "those who row" as they used rowing to traverse the Volga river) did so, eventually moving their capital to Kiev >Kievan 'Rus does a lot of very successful warring, but these are not Russians, these are Norsemen and Ruthenians, ancestors of the modern Ukrainians & Cossacks >this state eventually falls apart and gets mostly annexed by Mongols (warrior race) >gradually, Mongols fall apart due to Temujin's failure to set up an inheritance system that could keep the empire unified, and the part that's ruling over the Russians eventually pisses off Timur and gets rekt so hard that Muscovy is able to rebel even though their soldiers are all Russians >Muscovy blobs over the other little states in the area and the fractured remnants of the Mongols, eventually becomes Russia >Russia proceeds to get rekt every time it tries an offensive war, but does decently well on defence because it's so fricking huge nobody can really conquer the whole thing, this goes on for centuries >gets the shit kicked in by Germans (warrior race) in WW1, collapses into communism >gets the shit kicked in by Germans AGAIN in WW2, but this time Anglo-Saxons (warrior race) decide to prop them up to tire the Germans out and keep them busy, provides the Russians with a shitton of logistical supplies and support >Germans are eventually defeated after horrific losses on the Russian side >Russians then get it into their heads that because the Anglo-Saxons used them as a tool against Germany, and the Russians were technically on the side that won against Germany, this somehow makes them a warrior race >with this delusion, decide it's time to go to war again - against the descendants of the Kievan 'Rus
Genuinely crippling corruption has made their military as inept as those of some african nations.
They're a nation of backwards savages squatting in the ruins of the soviet "golden" age.
I love how every excuse for why Russia sucks is the shit chug pedophile homosexuals made fun of us for raising >Ha sanctions make Russia stronk
Y-you try fighting a war while being sanctioned >Ha nice wonder weapons HATO homosexuals won't make a difference
N-natos arming ukraine
You people that support the mongol mismanaged shithole that is Russia should be genocided with the rest of the vatniks
I feel like all "superpowers" are rather paper tigers. When did Russia or the US win a war during the last 80 years? Long gone the days of true world empires like UK.
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They successfully took over 100,000km of the best Ukranian land, with 12 trillion in proven reserves of natural resources from an American vassal state. The entire Westen empire of the USA was unable to stop them. All it could do was try and flood the Internet and mainsteam media with stories about how Russia is failing and the American Empire isn't in decline but is strong as ever. This is what empire in decline do, try to keep internal loyalty as the barbarians start raiding the outer reaches of the empire.
Name one country outside of US and China that would be able to take Ukraine out while being sanctioned by 50% of the world economy.
I thought the sanctions only made Russia stronker fatnik
China is a paper tiger like Russia. They have way less combat experience than Russia.
Yeah I've always wondered this. Every NATO soldier has probably killed at least one Dunic civilian and Russia at least had China. Where the frick does the Chinese army fight and train? I don't think I've ever seen anything about the Chinese army fighting in overseas wars. All their soldiers would be completely unbloodied and would probably freak the frick out.
Frick, I meant Russia at least had Syria. Dunno how I did that. I guess they had a bunch of other conflicts as well.
You'd think they would go fight rebels in burma but nah. WTF are they doing
Yeah there's plenty of stuff for them to get involved in. I think Asutralia even participates in conflicts in the area.
i think that'd be bad optics, aren't the ones in burma fighting against being genocided?
also i don't think they care about burma at all either
They fight Indians with sticks at their border.
Israel
Turkey
South Korea
South korea men are terrorised daily by their female population, they would surrender ASAP due to low morale
Turkey would collapse within 1 month
Israel would put up a good fight but won't be able to occupy that much land.
Is this the newest copium now?
"I could have taken Kyiv in 2 weeks if it weren't for these pesky sanctions"
the sanctions haven't done anything, Russia is getting stronger
>name one country BESIDES the ones we were supposed to be the equal to
utterly pathetic. you were supposed to be a superpower lmao
If Ukraine hadn't received copious amounts of Western help, they most certainly would have fell within about 3 months. This war is Russia vs the West with Ukraine as the battleground.
Nah, I don't think so, the northern offensive was awful, and it would have eventually been stopped even with home grown defensive rockets, just not as fast.
The Ukies certainly wouldn't be able to make such reverse gains so quickly into the war without western help for sure.
But wars are never disconnected from external politics, trying to theorise what other countries could be an imperialistic aggressor state is kind of a moot point when they don't want to be, or set their army up to be in the first place.
Yeah it's like going:
>This nation that hasn't attacked anyone in 80 years because it doesn't want to, would be shit at offensive warfare with the defensive army its built up
Any nation in Europe has the capability to do what Russia did in Ukraine.
250,000 soldiers with reserves is peanuts really in the scheme of things, and 3000 tanks could have been shat out in less than 10 years by pretty much any European state if the will was strong enough with relative ease.
but...but...I've been told for months that the "HATO wunderwaffens" have no effect and are just cope because Russia is winning
France
UK
Turkey
South Korea
Pakistan
Iran
India
Vietnam
South Africa
And probably a lot more considering they're invading someone RIGHT ON THEIR BORDER where the capital is like 50km from their staging point.
I reckon even African nations could manage it.
Russia should have been smart enough to avoid starting a war it couldn't win. At the very least don't start a war and get abjectly humiliated.
Did anyone predict that they wouldn't be able to win this though. I never would have believed it could get to this stage. Even when they were losing a few months ago after the initial withdrawal I was like it's just gonna take longer. Now it looks like it was never possible.
>Did anyone predict that they wouldn't be able to win this though.
I didn't, but a few anons here said the Ukrainians were way more professional and would win. I thought there would be a long and brutal occupation with a monstrous guerrilla campaign.
The truth is, only East Euros knew what to expect from Puccia, especially Ukrainians. The rest of the world, including most informed people, assumed it would be over after a week at most.
During and after the Battle of Kiev I mildly believed the Ukies might be able to pull it off. The fact that they didn't steamroll them in the first week raised some eyebrows
nah
most common sentiment was that the ukies would be swiftly crushed, turn to gorilla warfare and turn this war into russias vietnam
But you haven't taken them out, moron. The only thing Russia is going to win from this war is taking Ukraine's title as being the poorest nation in Europe
>Take out ukraine
Except they did not and never will. Go be a shilling homosexual somewhere else.
Norway
France
Japan
Australia
India
North Korea
Canada
Finland
Maybe Germany
turkland?
>Its another Ukraine/Russia post
Oh my fricking just post anything weapon related for fricks sake.
I'm sorry I forgot wars were fought with pillows
It is a tradition, Russia only works with a strong leader in power like Stalin or something, Russians tend to follow people who force them to do this and in the same time by example, it is so tiresome...
ANY IDEA WHAT A MILITARY IS AND WHAT IS SUPPOSE TO DO.
>None of this israelite century. Im talking protecting your land from invaders, not pump up someone stock portfolio
They never actually evolved past their serf days under the Tsars.
>Never developed a proper NCO system to allow for proper flexibility and speed of response within their military
>Never fricking developed pallets or an equivalent so their logistical system is completely and utterly FRICKED and slower at moving anything and everything that could be stacked into a pallet by a quantity equal to how many of whatever the frick could fit onto said pallet...
>Never fixed their fricked culture that turned to drugs, alcohol, and corruption in order to cope with the problems the common people faced in society, so everyone is constantly destroying themselves and the systems they work under slowly but surely
>Never got rid of their stupidly rigid facist bullshit so people will lie about everything to themselves and others to save their position, ass, and butthole... and thus they are blind to their problems
They would have won easily if it hadn't been for NATO nazi necromancers, black mutant supersoldiers and SLAVDIE
>Why the frick is Russia so bad at war?
War is a pretty good test for uncovering all the flaws in a military and government. Russia is a society where uncovering or discussing these flaws can cost someone their freedom or their life, so they tend not to be discussed. Undiscussed problems tend to go unsolved. Now Russia is finding itself in a situation where its military and government have a lot of issues bubbling to the surface, and it's scrambling to try and adapt and overcome.
Russians are not a warrior race. Never have been.
>originally were a bunch of disunited agrarian tribes
>their region was such a mess that they eventually asked the Norsemen (warrior race) to come over and rule
>Norsemen (called "Rus" or "those who row" as they used rowing to traverse the Volga river) did so, eventually moving their capital to Kiev
>Kievan 'Rus does a lot of very successful warring, but these are not Russians, these are Norsemen and Ruthenians, ancestors of the modern Ukrainians & Cossacks
>this state eventually falls apart and gets mostly annexed by Mongols (warrior race)
>gradually, Mongols fall apart due to Temujin's failure to set up an inheritance system that could keep the empire unified, and the part that's ruling over the Russians eventually pisses off Timur and gets rekt so hard that Muscovy is able to rebel even though their soldiers are all Russians
>Muscovy blobs over the other little states in the area and the fractured remnants of the Mongols, eventually becomes Russia
>Russia proceeds to get rekt every time it tries an offensive war, but does decently well on defence because it's so fricking huge nobody can really conquer the whole thing, this goes on for centuries
>gets the shit kicked in by Germans (warrior race) in WW1, collapses into communism
>gets the shit kicked in by Germans AGAIN in WW2, but this time Anglo-Saxons (warrior race) decide to prop them up to tire the Germans out and keep them busy, provides the Russians with a shitton of logistical supplies and support
>Germans are eventually defeated after horrific losses on the Russian side
>Russians then get it into their heads that because the Anglo-Saxons used them as a tool against Germany, and the Russians were technically on the side that won against Germany, this somehow makes them a warrior race
>with this delusion, decide it's time to go to war again - against the descendants of the Kievan 'Rus
Genuinely crippling corruption has made their military as inept as those of some african nations.
They're a nation of backwards savages squatting in the ruins of the soviet "golden" age.
I love how every excuse for why Russia sucks is the shit chug pedophile homosexuals made fun of us for raising
>Ha sanctions make Russia stronk
Y-you try fighting a war while being sanctioned
>Ha nice wonder weapons HATO homosexuals won't make a difference
N-natos arming ukraine
You people that support the mongol mismanaged shithole that is Russia should be genocided with the rest of the vatniks
I feel like all "superpowers" are rather paper tigers. When did Russia or the US win a war during the last 80 years? Long gone the days of true world empires like UK.
US forces performed very well against Chinese forces in the Korean war.
Compare the invasion of Ukraine to the Falklands war or the Iraq war.
Massive corruption and incompetence married to ENORMOUS self-delusion and megalomania.
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They successfully took over 100,000km of the best Ukranian land, with 12 trillion in proven reserves of natural resources from an American vassal state. The entire Westen empire of the USA was unable to stop them. All it could do was try and flood the Internet and mainsteam media with stories about how Russia is failing and the American Empire isn't in decline but is strong as ever. This is what empire in decline do, try to keep internal loyalty as the barbarians start raiding the outer reaches of the empire.