Serious question

Why the fuck is Russia so bad at war? Does anyone consider them a military power outside their decrepit nuclear arsenal

  1. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Name one country outside of US and China that would be able to take Ukraine out while being sanctioned by 50% of the world economy.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I thought the sanctions only made Russia stronker fatnik

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      China is a paper tiger like Russia. They have way less combat experience than Russia.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah I've always wondered this. Every NATO soldier has probably killed at least one Dunic civilian and Russia at least had China. Where the fuck does the Chinese army fight and train? I don't think I've ever seen anything about the Chinese army fighting in overseas wars. All their soldiers would be completely unbloodied and would probably freak the fuck out.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Fuck, I meant Russia at least had Syria. Dunno how I did that. I guess they had a bunch of other conflicts as well.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          You'd think they would go fight rebels in burma but nah. WTF are they doing

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Yeah there's plenty of stuff for them to get involved in. I think Asutralia even participates in conflicts in the area.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            i think that'd be bad optics, aren't the ones in burma fighting against being genocided?

            also i don't think they care about burma at all either

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          They fight Indians with sticks at their border.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Israel
      Turkey
      South Korea

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        South korea men are terrorised daily by their female population, they would surrender ASAP due to low morale
        Turkey would collapse within 1 month
        Israel would put up a good fight but won't be able to occupy that much land.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Is this the newest copium now?
      "I could have taken Kyiv in 2 weeks if it weren't for these pesky sanctions"

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      the sanctions haven't done anything, Russia is getting stronger

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >name one country BESIDES the ones we were supposed to be the equal to
      utterly pathetic. you were supposed to be a superpower lmao

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      If Ukraine hadn't received copious amounts of Western help, they most certainly would have fell within about 3 months. This war is Russia vs the West with Ukraine as the battleground.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Nah, I don't think so, the northern offensive was awful, and it would have eventually been stopped even with home grown defensive rockets, just not as fast.
        The Ukies certainly wouldn't be able to make such reverse gains so quickly into the war without western help for sure.
        But wars are never disconnected from external politics, trying to theorise what other countries could be an imperialistic aggressor state is kind of a moot point when they don't want to be, or set their army up to be in the first place.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah it's like going:
          >This nation that hasn't attacked anyone in 80 years because it doesn't want to, would be shit at offensive warfare with the defensive army its built up
          Any nation in Europe has the capability to do what Russia did in Ukraine.
          250,000 soldiers with reserves is peanuts really in the scheme of things, and 3000 tanks could have been shat out in less than 10 years by pretty much any European state if the will was strong enough with relative ease.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        but...but...I've been told for months that the "HATO wunderwaffens" have no effect and are just cope because Russia is winning

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      France
      UK
      Turkey
      South Korea
      Pakistan
      Iran
      India
      Vietnam
      South Africa

      And probably a lot more considering they're invading someone RIGHT ON THEIR BORDER where the capital is like 50km from their staging point.
      I reckon even African nations could manage it.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Russia should have been smart enough to avoid starting a war it couldn't win. At the very least don't start a war and get abjectly humiliated.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Did anyone predict that they wouldn't be able to win this though. I never would have believed it could get to this stage. Even when they were losing a few months ago after the initial withdrawal I was like it's just gonna take longer. Now it looks like it was never possible.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Did anyone predict that they wouldn't be able to win this though.
          I didn't, but a few anons here said the Ukrainians were way more professional and would win. I thought there would be a long and brutal occupation with a monstrous guerrilla campaign.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Did anyone predict that they wouldn't be able to win this though. I never would have believed it could get to this stage. Even when they were losing a few months ago after the initial withdrawal I was like it's just gonna take longer. Now it looks like it was never possible.

            Russia should have been smart enough to avoid starting a war it couldn't win. At the very least don't start a war and get abjectly humiliated.

            The truth is, only East Euros knew what to expect from Puccia, especially Ukrainians. The rest of the world, including most informed people, assumed it would be over after a week at most.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          During and after the Battle of Kiev I mildly believed the Ukies might be able to pull it off. The fact that they didn't steamroll them in the first week raised some eyebrows

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          nah
          most common sentiment was that the ukies would be swiftly crushed, turn to gorilla warfare and turn this war into russias vietnam

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      But you haven't taken them out, retard. The only thing Russia is going to win from this war is taking Ukraine's title as being the poorest nation in Europe

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Take out ukraine
      Except they did not and never will. Go be a shilling gay somewhere else.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Norway
      France
      Japan
      Australia
      India
      North Korea
      Canada
      Finland
      Maybe Germany

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        turkland?

  2. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Its another Ukraine/Russia post
    Oh my fucking just post anything weapon related for fucks sake.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I'm sorry I forgot wars were fought with pillows

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous
  3. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    It is a tradition, Russia only works with a strong leader in power like Stalin or something, Russians tend to follow people who force them to do this and in the same time by example, it is so tiresome...

  4. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    ANY IDEA WHAT A MILITARY IS AND WHAT IS SUPPOSE TO DO.
    >None of this garden gnome century. Im talking protecting your land from invaders, not pump up someone stock portfolio

  5. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    They never actually evolved past their serf days under the Tsars.
    >Never developed a proper NCO system to allow for proper flexibility and speed of response within their military
    >Never fucking developed pallets or an equivalent so their logistical system is completely and utterly FUCKED and slower at moving anything and everything that could be stacked into a pallet by a quantity equal to how many of whatever the fuck could fit onto said pallet...
    >Never fixed their fucked culture that turned to drugs, alcohol, and corruption in order to cope with the problems the common people faced in society, so everyone is constantly destroying themselves and the systems they work under slowly but surely
    >Never got rid of their stupidly rigid facist bullshit so people will lie about everything to themselves and others to save their position, ass, and asshole... and thus they are blind to their problems

  6. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    They would have won easily if it hadn't been for NATO nazi necromancers, black mutant supersoldiers and SLAVDIE

  7. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Why the fuck is Russia so bad at war?
    War is a pretty good test for uncovering all the flaws in a military and government. Russia is a society where uncovering or discussing these flaws can cost someone their freedom or their life, so they tend not to be discussed. Undiscussed problems tend to go unsolved. Now Russia is finding itself in a situation where its military and government have a lot of issues bubbling to the surface, and it's scrambling to try and adapt and overcome.

  8. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Russians are not a warrior race. Never have been.
    >originally were a bunch of disunited agrarian tribes
    >their region was such a mess that they eventually asked the Norsemen (warrior race) to come over and rule
    >Norsemen (called "Rus" or "those who row" as they used rowing to traverse the Volga river) did so, eventually moving their capital to Kiev
    >Kievan 'Rus does a lot of very successful warring, but these are not Russians, these are Norsemen and Ruthenians, ancestors of the modern Ukrainians & Cossacks
    >this state eventually falls apart and gets mostly annexed by Mongols (warrior race)
    >gradually, Mongols fall apart due to Temujin's failure to set up an inheritance system that could keep the empire unified, and the part that's ruling over the Russians eventually pisses off Timur and gets rekt so hard that Muscovy is able to rebel even though their soldiers are all Russians
    >Muscovy blobs over the other little states in the area and the fractured remnants of the Mongols, eventually becomes Russia
    >Russia proceeds to get rekt every time it tries an offensive war, but does decently well on defence because it's so fucking huge nobody can really conquer the whole thing, this goes on for centuries
    >gets the shit kicked in by Germans (warrior race) in WW1, collapses into communism
    >gets the shit kicked in by Germans AGAIN in WW2, but this time Anglo-Saxons (warrior race) decide to prop them up to tire the Germans out and keep them busy, provides the Russians with a shitton of logistical supplies and support
    >Germans are eventually defeated after horrific losses on the Russian side
    >Russians then get it into their heads that because the Anglo-Saxons used them as a tool against Germany, and the Russians were technically on the side that won against Germany, this somehow makes them a warrior race
    >with this delusion, decide it's time to go to war again - against the descendants of the Kievan 'Rus

  9. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Genuinely crippling corruption has made their military as inept as those of some african nations.
    They're a nation of backwards savages squatting in the ruins of the soviet "golden" age.

  10. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I love how every excuse for why Russia sucks is the shit chug pedophile gays made fun of us for raising
    >Ha sanctions make Russia stronk
    Y-you try fighting a war while being sanctioned
    >Ha nice wonder weapons HATO gays won't make a difference
    N-natos arming ukraine
    You people that support the mongol mismanaged shithole that is Russia should be genocided with the rest of the vatniks

  11. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I feel like all "superpowers" are rather paper tigers. When did Russia or the US win a war during the last 80 years? Long gone the days of true world empires like UK.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      US forces performed very well against Chinese forces in the Korean war.
      Compare the invasion of Ukraine to the Falklands war or the Iraq war.

  12. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Massive corruption and incompetence married to ENORMOUS self-delusion and megalomania.

  13. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    (OP)
    They successfully took over 100,000km of the best Ukranian land, with 12 trillion in proven reserves of natural resources from an American vassal state. The entire Westen empire of the USA was unable to stop them. All it could do was try and flood the Internet and mainsteam media with stories about how Russia is failing and the American Empire isn't in decline but is strong as ever. This is what empire in decline do, try to keep internal loyalty as the barbarians start raiding the outer reaches of the empire.

  14. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

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