Russian warlord era incoming

What's the strategic advantage of having disjointed military rssponsible not to the country but to slecific oligarchs outside the law?

  1. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What's the strategic advantage of starting threads with "what's the strategic/tactical advantage of X?"

    No I'm genuinely wondering, i admit to being a newfag tourist who only started hanging around PrepHole once the invasion started but I don't remember this.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's a clever trick to make any topic PrepHole related. The jannies are powerless against it.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        oooh, so it's like making thread with inane questions ending in "in your country" on /int/, gotcha

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's a clever trick to make any topic PrepHole related. The jannies are powerless against it.

      >It's a clever trick to make any topic PrepHole related. The jannies are powerless against it.

      Meanwhile, my thread on Macron openly defending France's relations with Russia & China while calling for an Armistice in Ukraine gets deleted and I get banned without warning for 5 days.

      > https://desuarchive.org/k/thread/55014397
      > https://desuarchive.org/k/thread/55014397

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah, because no one likes you or your gay ideas.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        no one cares about france sorry

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Might be because your formatting looks like the spam we get in wabes numerous time per day and because you did not provide any links or thoughts in the OP.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        And I get banned for starting a thread with chud Trombley picture no matter what its actual subject is
        for media not being gun related

        It is what it is

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Girl Trombley is a cute. Would lift out of her trailer park and help her with her PTSD/10

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        clearly 4chan issue
        i would ban you for a month

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        shut up frog

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >France advises Ukraine to unconditionally surrender

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's like when you state you intend to commit a horrible, gorey crime but then add "in minecraft" so the cops can't do anything about it.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's a clever trick to make any topic PrepHole related. The jannies are powerless against it.

      just report the off topic threads as off topic please. This is clearly a 4chan thread

  2. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Hmm, authoritarianism isn't working let's give feudalism a try.
    -Putin

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      That's how feudalism emerged once Rome collapsed.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Ukies beat Russia so bad they regressed back to feudalism.
      You can't make this shit up.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >regressed

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Well it was tsarist autocracy before the war.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Holy shit. Putin really is a royalist after all.
      His oligarchs will be his boyars and he will be the new Tsar of his decrepit backwater empire.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Feudalism and authoritarianism are the same thing, although conservatives prefer feudalism.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Fuck no.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          You didn't fall for the limited government meme, did you?
          They just want to keep government out of the hands of the people.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Absolutely no. European monarchs spent few centuries tyring to trasition form feudalism to authoritarianism.
        You underestimate how weak can king be under feudalism.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >You underestimate how weak can king be under feudalism
          Exactly. A feudal country isn't really a 'state' as we would understand it. It's an arrangement of personal relationships and oaths of loyalty that together make something like a ruling organisation. The man at the top is only as secure as his connections further along the branches.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Absolute_monarchy
        This was built in Europe only during the final century of feudalism and has more to do with the rise of efficient bureaucracy than feudal privileges, which inherently collided with the power of monarch and for thousand years resulted in decentralization of countries. Absolute monarch if anything tried to curb don on feudalism to bypass the nobility and harness the commoners into working for the state rather than for local lord,

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Feudalism is a subset of authoritarianism, and is incompatible with many other subsets of authoritarianism (such as absolute monarchy and totalitarianism)

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          What is the difference between globalism, authoritarianism and feudalism except of the scale?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Lolno. Feudalism is a dogshit system for any ruler. Modern capitalism could only grow out of a system of centralized authority, IE Absolute Monarchies, where the government answered to a single man who established a government made up of ambitious middle-class administrators, rather than the government being made up of a loose assembly of local strong-men answering, in theory, to a King, but who could, if they banded together, turn against the king and cripple the country if their interests were in any way hurt by royal policy.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Sweet summer child,
          >Feudalism
          is essentially how large human organisations function to this day. Heads of state are as beholden to party politics today as kings of yore were to their feudal supporters.
          >Modern capitalism could only grow out of a system of centralized authority
          Exactly the opposite; capitalism is a product of DEcentralised authority, in which competition is allowed to take place on the free market in lieu of greater Government intervention in the economy
          >could, if they banded together, turn against the king and cripple the country if their interests were in any way hurt by royal policy
          There is more such power in modern political parties, the judiciary, and even the executive arm of Government than any retainers of old enjoyed.

          Examples: Boris Johnson was forced to step down by his own executive branch. Theresa May was forced out by her political party. Trump was impeached, though not successfully.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Feudalism is essentially how large human organisations function to this day.
            What's your definition of feudalism?
            > ... nobility held lands from the Crown in exchange for military service, and vassals were in turn tenants of the nobles, while the peasants (villeins or serfs) were obliged to live on their lord's land and give him homage, labor, and a share of the produce, notionally in exchange for military protection.
            Assume you're drawing parallels with modern corps and nobility, but if so that's a weak comparison.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Feudalism is essentially how large human organisations function to this day.
            What's your definition of feudalism?
            > ... nobility held lands from the Crown in exchange for military service, and vassals were in turn tenants of the nobles, while the peasants (villeins or serfs) were obliged to live on their lord's land and give him homage, labor, and a share of the produce, notionally in exchange for military protection.
            Assume you're drawing parallels with modern corps and nobility, but if so that's a weak comparison.

            The competition referred to here is force, silly!

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Putin is not even at fault here, he's doing what any man would do if they were handed a real life sandbox civilization simulator. Russian people are the real fools in this and they will be left to foot the bill of Putin's poor decisions for generations to come. Lessons from history say Russians will get more vengeful the bigger losers they are so eventually the whole thing has no other destiny, but to collapse. If we had any sense, we'd treat the situation as if nuclear weapons were already flying and additionally, were being shipped to North Korea, Myanmar, Venezuela and other shitholes around the world - out of pure spite.

  3. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Bellingcat
    So, are they MI6 glowies or nah?

  4. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    In theory this sounds like a way of forcing oligarchs to financially contribute to the armed forces

    But how do you get them to bankroll some extra soldiers and not have those soldiers be loyal to their boss first and foremost?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Kamil Galeev claims Kadyrov is doing something like that right now
      https://nitter.it/kamilkazani/status/1568350637062242306

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Sounds like a horrible idea since you’re now giving wealthy powerful individuals go head for state approved military force.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Do you guys want extraterritoriality? Because that's how you get extraterritoriality.

  5. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Oh boy, just as we were joking about Russia operating on late Napoleonic doctrine, they decided to prove us right and have each boyar field their personal regiment.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Oh boy, just as we were joking about Russia operating on late Napoleonic doctrine, they decided to prove us right and have each boyar field their personal regiment.
      /thread

  6. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    DANGEROUS MUTANTS, ANARCHISTS AND BANDITS WILL NOT STOP NATO ON ITS TRIUMPHANT MARCH TOWARD SAVING RUSSIA FROM ITSELF

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Zaporizhzhia blows up
      >Russia falls to anarchy
      >STALKER 2 will be actual reality

      The future is looking so bright, it's like the midnight sun

  7. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Nuclear bombing of Omsk (Part of the Lukoil-Gazprom mercenary war)

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >just hand over the pipeline and no one gets hurt!
      >walk away!

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      What's the source of that pic? It look like a Sabu, in which case that's probably the face of a guy who's rawdogging some twink bussy.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Disco Elysium, it's 'The Expression' aka the grimace of pain that is stuck on the main characters face.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Outcome: Omsk significantly improved, residents rejoice
      >see article: Omsk (golden age)

  8. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Late period Rome bros...

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Russia truly was the third rome all along

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        So usa, was persia? Huh, well yanks keep prophets and mongols out of your land and everything will be all right

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Persia got steamrolled by Arabs after their war against (Eastern) Roman Empire in 7th century, in what some consider to be the last war of Antiquity

  9. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why not just declare it war and get the mobilisation going? Are Russians oblivious to what doing this would mean in real terms?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      and how are you gonna equip your new soldiers if you cant even equip the other ones?
      what about training? what about logistics? what about your shitty air force? what about your shitty doctrine?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Because Putin desperately wants to avoid being Nicholas'd
      Mobilization is step 1 for that

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Because once enough ru

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        ssians are armed they might figure out that Putin is the only one that has anything to lose in this war

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They could barely supply their “special operations” number in the early days and now their logistics lines are frequently anal fucked several months into the invasion.
      What makes you think a general mobilization means they effectively supply a bigger force?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      aside from the complete logistical disaster that would follow:

      putin actually faces real blowback from mobilization. so far the russians have conscripted ethnic minorities and donbawean ''volunteers'' as cannon fodder for the glorious special military operation but once muskovites are being blown apart its going to be a much different atmosphere

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      1) no equipment or money
      2) once the muscovites start losing THEIR children, the war will finally hit home for them and either way the discontent blows - toward leaving or escalation - putin won't be able to control it

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Its kind of baffling these shithole authoritarian regimes make the same exact mistakes over and over again. You’d think someone would take a hint and at least try to be an enlightened despot or something. They already have the feudalism bit.

      The ones already mobilized are getting their asses handed to them and have virtually no gear or supplies at all beyond the bare minimum to not starve to death. What Russia sent were supposed to be their cream of the crop and they got annihilated and still keep shitting themselves at every opportunity. If they couldn’t handle a relatively small force of that then there’s no way in hell they could manage anything larger without going full WW1 mode.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Putin is a literal street thug who ended up czar. Back the the 50s all the parents were dead and they lived on the streets. Of course they're all retarded now.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Putin's paternal grandfather was a chef at the most elite hotel in the Russian Empire's richest city and later worked as a chef for Lenin and Stalin.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Putins not just a typical thug, even if he was a career ass sniffer he still ended up as an intel officer for the KGB. He’s more like a mob boss that just so happened to be in the right place to get it. His career was pretty uneventful before he became president.

          >Its kind of baffling these shithole authoritarian regimes make the same exact mistakes over and over again
          not really. dictatorship inherently pushes it's leaders into making decisions that are counter productive for the country in order to stay in power. and when the only source of legitimacy is the military it's always going to be a free for all as soon as the status quo wavers.
          the same dynamic took out almost every pre modern civilization that didn't go to extreme lengths to pull another source of legitimacy out of thin air.

          And how many dictators eventually got ousted and/or killed? You can only grug your way through so much, and you’d have an easier time looking for ones who didn’t end up that way. And funnily enough the dictators or autocrats who at least died of natural causes while in power all had a similar playbook and realized that if people don’t have a reason to rebel then they won’t, which means they stay in power and can continue doing dictator things. I know the dynamics are complicated but its still possible, case in point Franco and Tito to name a few. Hell Franco is a perfect example of this given what he did to cause the Spanish miracle in the 50’s up to his death while still ultimately assuming full power. Personally if I was ever to be a dictator I’d at least try to give the people some good reasons to not want to chop off my head instead of playing army man and forming a nation of alcoholic larpers.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >And how many dictators eventually got ousted and/or killed?
            I'm not saying that being dictator necessarily gets them killed. but the dynamics of the position is what culminates in those same mistakes we see again and again. the degree of how much corruption hollowed out Russia's military may have never come to light if Putin never went forward with the invasion.
            I would argue that dictators are in an inherently rocky position. they have to constantly keep rivals and potential coupes at bay by padding their staff with the loyal over the competent and keeping everybody happy with generous bribes. and the more you spend of keeping the populous happy the less you have for the people that run the military. that military having the means to shut down either populous or the dictator and do the job themselves if they were so inclined.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >And how many dictators eventually got ousted and/or killed?
            Castro died in office of natual causes.
            Chavez in Venezuela, same.
            Both were pretty shit to their people but stayed in power anyway, with handoffs to their chosen successors.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              The truth that there is no god might very well destroy reverence towards sacred things, does this deserve being destroyed by truth?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Its kind of baffling these shithole authoritarian regimes make the same exact mistakes over and over again
        not really. dictatorship inherently pushes it's leaders into making decisions that are counter productive for the country in order to stay in power. and when the only source of legitimacy is the military it's always going to be a free for all as soon as the status quo wavers.
        the same dynamic took out almost every pre modern civilization that didn't go to extreme lengths to pull another source of legitimacy out of thin air.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      No money or supplies to equip them with. No point calling in conscripts if you can't even feed clothe and arm them.

  10. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >let's give a bunch of rich people their own private armies, what could go wrong?
    Russia, stop. Please. For the love of fucking God. STOP.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >STOP.
      You want to see it as much as I do as the Tula ammo Factory beats the fucking shit out of the gays at RT

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I do, but at the same time it hurts to watch a member of the UN security council doing a "complete societal collapse speedrun, any%". It may give American politicians ideas.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Gulf War-tier Intervention by the UN soon.

          You will drink the cough syrup, russoids.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They're not just random rich people, they are Putin's private viceroys, the people selected for their connections to the former KGB and their loyalty to the current regime.
      They will have the responsibility to raise troops but will not be given the privilege of actually commanding them.
      This is just Putin sucking resources out of the economy to save himself, same as Xi has been doing for the past 5 years but on a more pathetic scale.

  11. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Corporations having their own military

    Okay lads russia has gone full cyberpunk. What a nation of cuckolds to let this happen.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Minus technology, neons and transhumans, so more like nigeriapunk

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Mad Max 0.75

  12. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Makes sense, the oligarchs already had a more capable navy than the actual Russian naval forces

    At least before those superyachts got seized abroad.

  13. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Forcing the oligarchs to have a vested interest in a strong military, even if just localized for defence, instead of making all the money disappear from military budgets. Why do you think Putin has his own personal army and it's the most well equipped and probably the best trained?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Putin has his own personal army and it's the most well equipped and probably the best trained
      I just want to remind you that Rosgvardia was absolutely slaughtered very recently in the Kharkiv theater and they didn't even know how to use AT weapons.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >slaughtered in a theatre where the russians ran away with few losses on either side
        huh?

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Pretending to be retarded or genuinely out of touch with the news?

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            He probably thinks of a theatre as in a building, not a frontline.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Forcing the oligarchs to have a vested interest in a strong military, even if just localized for defence, instead of making all the money disappear from military budgets. Why do you think Putin has his own personal army and it's the most well equipped and probably the best trained?

        Putin must seriously be desperate, allowing his oligarchs to pretty much have private armies leaves him much weaker back and easier to dethrone back home.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Putin must seriously be desperate, allowing his oligarchs to pretty much have private armies leaves him much weaker back and easier to dethrone back home.
          You're forgetting that Putin owns something like 60% of the wealth in Russia and also can manipulate the ruble internally at will. And also Russian windows are very fragile.

          Turning Russian security into a bidding war he's sure to win ensures he CAN'T be dethroned. Ever. Except by FSB. Although I'm pretty sure that was already the case, so I doubt that was the motive here.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Weren't they SOBR?

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          There were SOBR and Rosgvardia. I remember distincly some screencap from Russian telegram that was giving them crash course instructions how to use RPGs.
          Afaik they did not surrender so I give them that.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Barely

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Weren't they SOBR?
          Russians are never sober

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          funny name for a russian unit

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The best Russian soldiers are still Russian soldiers and any Rosgvardia in Ukraine are the dumbest are the dumbfucks that signed the volunteer form when it was being passed around or the ones from units that got pressganged by their shitty/dumb leaders probably for a bribe. So not exactly the quality branches of that particular tree.

  14. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    My bet is on the Lenin's legion.
    The New St. Petersburg Republic is way too gay.

  15. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >lose so badly your country cracks at the seams like a tectonic plate under pressure and bringing a call of duty plot in to real life
    how.exe

  16. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >mercernaries sack moscow after the Russian government defaulted on their debts
    >2 million dead
    >8 million displaced
    >collapse of the Russian Federation
    >global economic recession lasting decades
    >start of the Russian Resource Wars
    >China annexes large swathes of Russian oil and gas fields

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      stop, I can only get so erect

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Guess I have to post this again.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It's imperative that Russia be preserved, since any eastern territories that stop being part of it will fall under the influence of the Chinese, who are a more legitimate danger than the Russians ever were.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          China's already super bloated with seriously major infrastructure problems, especially water. If they all of a sudden also had to take over eastern russia that would be a disaster for them, plus it'd take their attention off the pacific for a while.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lake_Baikal

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              want what you're smoking if you believe it's even a remote possibility china comes to control baikal. like thinking the USA will take sakhalin through alaska

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I was basing it on

                https://i.imgur.com/0A1Maaq.jpg

                Guess I have to post this again.

                I don't believe Russia would ever give up lake Baikal unless the state completely collapses

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              It'll get Aral Sea'd to irrigate more rice.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                How many sqkm of farmland could you irrigate with all that water?

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Depends on if you care about sustainability.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Lets say i give no fucks and want the entire lake gone in a single harvest?

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Isn't that the sea that russia drained to make guncotton? Just think; they are using up those munitions now...

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Isn't that the sea that russia drained to make guncotton? Just think; they are using up those munitions now...

                Was it worth it?

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                We got a ton of funny webm's and gifs and memes out of this war, so I say yes. Totally worth it.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Well where else can you take cover during a blowout?

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous
              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >The disappearance of the lake was no surprise to the Soviets, they expected it to happen long before. As early as 1964, Aleksandr Asarin at the Hydroproject Institute pointed out that the lake was doomed, explaining, "It was part of the five-year plans, approved by the council of ministers and the Politburo. Nobody on a lower level would dare to say a word contradicting those plans, even if it was the fate of the Aral Sea."
                >The reaction to the predictions varied. Some Soviet experts apparently considered the Aral to be "nature's error"

                Anyone advocating the return of the Soviet Union or Communism in general should be shot

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I like this one better

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Accurate historic landclaims for Ukraine on Kuban and Adhygea

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Dibs on Tuva.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Finaldn :DDDD

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Us needs to take Kamchatka and turn it into a gigantic fuck off national park

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >implying US wants shared border with Russia.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        why's bashkiria it's own thing and yakutia isn't. the map is so arbitrary.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I tried my best, Anon. 🙁
          Also you can clearly see that Yakutia is fighting for independance.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            im sorry, it's still a good map even if i didn't get it.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Pretty nice. But I do not think anyone wants Königsberg to become another legal, semi-autonomous mess ala Kosovo. Since it cannot be added to either Germany or Poland without upsetting people, it seems best to let it be an independent nation; The Republic of Prussia. Heck, they could even vote to bring back the Hohenzollerns.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Konigsberg is no more. Whatever is left there other than a few old buildings has no ties to the land's Prussian history and the people are mostly Russians. At this point if they ever break away from Russia proper they should just be left alone to create their own future.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            It can be rebuilt

  17. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    fwrd

  18. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Third Chechen war when?

  19. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    If the future for Russia is oligarch warlords will that make loose nukes easier or more difficult to control

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It depends on who secures the nukes. Some oligarchs might sell. The best outcome is the military proper secures the nukes and tells the oligarchs to fuck off.

  20. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    20 quid on Kadyrov becoming supreme khalif of russistan

  21. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Smart. If you dismantle you military it's that much harder to organize a coup.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's also much harder to enforce obedience amongst your vassals. Oligarch A and B can simply form their own armies and declare their fealty to the NATO Roman Empire, and if their combined armies are more powerful than your own personal forces you're either going to have to convince the other oligarchs to support you, or you're fucked.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >the NATO Roman Empire

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Not to mention more opportunities for enemy forces to strike deals or agreements with warlords behind your back.

  22. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Lol, imagine what happened when Bloodimir Pootin died.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >New Warring States period in Asia
      Turns out Russia was the successor to Alexander and not Rome. Greece must be so pissed.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      With every day that passes, it seems to me more impossible that this war isn't going to end up in a violent coup or the dissolution of the Russian Federation.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Violent coup
        Putin's entire inner circle is die hard loyalists that all hate Ukraine harder than he does and drank the Kool-Aid. I suppose it's theoretically possible that the scales have fallen from their eyes and they actually want to pull back and Putin's gone full mad dictator sunk cost fallacy, but the only reason I can imagine any of them couping, and frankly I can't imagine any of them couping, is so they can trigger mass mobilization and war harder because Putin won't, in the name of the glory of Russia. That's the type of nutbags Putin surrounds himself with so he won't get shot.

        And any coup wouldn't be violent. Military stands no fucking chance of making it to him. It'd be an FSB play. And again, upper ranks are all loyalists cause Putin doesn't want to get poisoned either, so it'd have to be an incredibly ambitions upper midrank plot by someone smart, skilled, desperate to stop the madness, and loyal to Russia as an entity (else they'd already have left the country).

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Full mobilization might have worked in March, or April at the last. It's too late now. Even if it didn't trigger an outright rebellion, it would take half a year for those troops to get ready - i.e. by next spring. But: they have no equipment and they have no training battalions (all got shipped off to the grinder). And by that time Ukraine will be armed to the teeth with NATO weapons (lend-lease only really kicks in starting October) and fully mobilized and trained (but with actual training and equipment) and ready to roll.

          It's unironically ogre. Putin's *best* bet is to hurriedly declare victory "haha, we killed all nazis, mission accomplished, ok we can go home now", run across the border, dig in and start squashing down any dissenters.

          But even THAT won't work because the economic meltdown has started.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >lend-lease only really kicks in starting October

            just curious, but what are the details of the october lend lease?

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          They're not die hard loyalists like the Soviets were, because they're not fighting for something they genuinely believe in, they're not fighting for ideology, they're fighting because they get money, protection and the authorization from king monke to pillage Russian ressources at will. They also don't have a choice, Russians have kompromats on everyone, can kill anyone anytime, and there's little the West would to protect a corrupt oligarch.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          coup
          >Putin's entire inner circle is die hard loyalists that all hate Ukraine harder than he does and drank the Kool-Aid.
          Maybe it's true for some of them, but I'm certain many of them are in it entirely for the money and Putin ruining the country's economy and having the West seize all of their assets didn't sit right with them, but they are too afraid of him to do anything.
          Putin making them all have PMCs of their own might allow them to actually fight off the FSB if Putin tries to show some of them the window.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            or some of those PMCs will be enforcers to make sure they don't fuck around unless they want to find out
            classic KGB style

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Putin's entire inner circle is die hard loyalists

          What about their deputies, as in, you know, all those colonels and secretaries that actually do the hard work? Are they also hardcore samurais willing to ritually bukkake themselves so Shoigu-sama can continue having tea ceremonies in his dojo? Or maybe they will forgo the bushido just this once, and try resolve the conundrum with accurate ATGM shot through the Kremlin`s window (or pumping certain Ural bunker full of VX)?

  23. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >each government corporation and oligarch are told to set up their own PMC.

    GOOD OLD DAYS AFTER 9/11/2022 CONFIRMED

  24. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I think I have seen this episode B4.
    Yeah, it's when the emperor of China and the shogun turned into figureheads because all the power were with the local lords.

  25. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    If anyone told me Russia was going to descend into feudalism after a Ukrainian counter-offensive, at the beginning of the war, I wouldve dismissed you as a schizophrenic.ktygx

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah, the guy in question thought the same

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Russia has been skipping on payin wages to factory workers in the defense industry since April.
        Is this Wagnerite seriously surprised the same is now happening to his buddies?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >because of incompetence and corruption
        >we'll still win though, it's just regrouping due to incompetence and corruption

  26. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    i can't fucking wait

  27. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >The year is 2045
    >The Gazprom 3rd Mechanised divison and their allies, the Municipal Bus Service of St Petersburg have been pushed into their last stronghold at Vladivostok by the army of Sberbank
    >Only the airbourne forces of Stolichnaya Vodka can turn the battle in their favour

    Futures shaping up to be kino

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      which despotic warlord of Snowmalia (formerly LLC Ozero) (formerly Russian Federation) will you cheer on?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Zvezdochka shipyard. Because it's HQ will be on Kuznetsov and everyone knows that's a recipe for dumpster fire

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Meanwhile companies like Kalashnikov Concern assume a role similar to the Catholic church and ensure their neutrality by supplying all sides while playing them against each other.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >and out of the chaos, a Kerensky emerges to unite what's left of the Russian Army
        Blake's blood, it's happening!

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >YFW your town becomes a heavily contested battleground between the forces of Unimilk and Russian McDonalds.

  28. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    My movie plot idea:
    In the dystopian, conflict-stricken Moscow after the collapse, a fragile alliance of security services keeps the peace. Our main character, a junior officer in the Main Directorate for Traffic Safety, is only barely a siloviki, but suddenly he finds himself in the possession of traffic camera footage of an incident that could completely topple the system for good.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Ghost in the shell: Cyka Alone Complex?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      fund it

  29. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The africanization of Russia is inevitable

  30. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Warlordism in a country with nukes.
    Based Russia making Highfleet real.

  31. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    From what I understand this is just his Wagner contact speaking his mouth about what he thinks might happen. Not something Putin has said in any reported sources.
    Either way, big if true.

  32. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Sire! Sire! House Abramovich has arrived on the battlefield, bearing fifty T-72s in full harness and eight hundred retainers!
    >Less than half of what I hoped for. Order them to deploy between the Aeroflot and FC Dynamo Moscow contingents!

  33. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >have oligarchs and Corp set up private militaries
    Russia will be entering its Warlord Era soon

  34. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Fuck Russia but most importantly fuck off-topic twittercap threads and FUCK YOU

  35. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    CYBERPUNK

  36. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    One month to prepare when it starts raining. Brilliant.

  37. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    - Vladimir Vladimirovich, how will private armies in hands of your loyal oligarchs help us win the war?
    - War?

  38. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Will Russia ever be at peace, even after split apart into a dozen separate countries?

  39. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What can possibly go wrong?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I think that is rather ominous, tbh. It's like an announcement of each clique within Russia getting its own private army, but that's not useful in a war against Ukraine...

  40. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I thought the whole point of Wagner was they're operated under a government body which gets around the "No Mercenaries" law?
    How do they think this new plan supposed to work?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      My guess is that Putin is going full praetorian guard mode and cutting up the army into loyalist bits, and the oligarchs paying for their own shit is to both further more loyalty to monke as well as help deal with costs on the federal level when 2023 ass fucks the world economy with a salted cactus. Sounds completely retarded but after these last two years I leave absolutely nothing to chance anymore, its obvious we’re in the chaos timeline where literally anything is possible.
      >they always did say they were the successor to rome

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Putin has maybe a decade before he dies from the old age (unless rumors about cancer are true or he gets killed before)
        >Just enough time to make oligarch private armies
        The succession crisis is going to be one legendary display.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >monke supreme dies
        >oligarchs fight for power
        >Russian breaks down into city states in-fighting for control
        kino

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >cutting up the army into loyalist bits, and the oligarchs paying for their own shit
        Oh shit Oprichnina is coming back? Finally KGB is retvrning to roots

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      the new plan is just the logical continuation under the current circumstances. They jailed all the opposition, shut down all opposition media and are now openly turning they're back on state armed forces

  41. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    russia will soon be Vatnikstan

  42. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    mein monke, the JDF and US marines have landed in Vladivstok

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