before: xaxaxaxa le stronk musicians will break the weak piggers in Bakhmut and conquer it!
after: fuck you for not giving us ammo, we're taking our toys and going home
Vaginer was pretty much the best they had on the ground. With them gone, the only decent troops remaining are what's left of the VDV, and those won't last out the year either.
It actually wouldn't surprise me if they try the same human wave tactics again when the Cadaverites arrive to their positions in Mariupol. Except this time it'll probably be Shtrafbat (penal battalions) formed by the Puccian MoD who will take the place of the cannon fodder while the Cadaverites and what's left of the VDV act as blocking troops and mop up.
before: xaxaxaxa le stronk musicians will break the weak piggers in Bakhmut and conquer it!
after: fuck you for not giving us ammo, we're taking our toys and going home
hi guys, can you delete your posts so mine can be first? i want to farm (you)'s and first post nearly always gets read but thirds don't. thanks.
Trees are often hugged for cover from drones and generally are useful at stopping certain calibre rounds. So you hug the edge (aka off the road) and set off the mine as you walk past.
I am guessing that the cable we're seeing snaking out from the mine is crossing an open area they are expecting Ukies to drive through, the idea being that once you get deep enough innawoods, any direction you turn will have a tree explode and fill you with splinters.
of course, this is still admitting that you expect the enemy to be seizing your territory shortly...
Once the war is over, this is gonna be one hell of a cleanup. The butterfly mines are bad enough but there are so many nefarious traps being left behind. Some really spiteful ones.
I don’t understand why the Europeans are being such feckless, unenthusiastic contributors of material to Ukraine.
Like… in America fucking with Russia is tradition. And there’s the Budapest memorandum.
But the Russians are like… Europe’s next-door neighbor. If anyone was going to be invaded, it would be them. Poland and the Baltic states are taking this seriously, but how is Western Europe (Spain, France) and Southern Europe so lacking in camaraderie? Germany is doing OK, but damn do they drag their feet.
Bandvagn BV-206S' [Before March 2023]. >Towed artillery
155mm FH-70s [May 2022] >Self-Propelled Artillery
6 155mm PzH 2000s [Arrived to Ukraine from January 2023 onwards]
60 155mm M109L [Delivered from October 2022 onwards] >Multiple rocket launchers
2 227mm M270A1 MLRS-Is [October 2022] >Surface-To-Air Missile (SAM) Systems
SkyGuard Aspides [February 2023]
1 SAMP/T battery (joint-donation with France) [To be delivered] >Vehicles
Iveco Lince LMV
IVECO ACM 90 4x4 heavy-duty trucks
IVECO Trakker T380WM
51 FIAT Fullback 4x4 pick-up trucks (used as a platform for ATGM's and Anti-air missiles)
11 TEKNE MLS Shield (bought by Petro Poroshenko for Ukraine) >Man-portable air defence systems
Stinger surface to air missiles >Anti-tank weapons
MILAN anti tank guided missiles
Panzerfaust anti-tank rpgs >Small arms
Huh. Maybe I’m tripping and I just haven’t seen the assets on the field yet.
Alright. Let’s see how the counter-offensive goes.
I maintain that all European parties should be contributing way more unless they have a secret desire to go to war with each other on the continent. (Seems unlikely.)
Why are they pulling out? They surely have enough forces to stop the counter-offensive? I was reading today about how they delivered 'hundreds' of T-90M 'Breakthrough' tanks to the commands in Ukraine. What the fuck? Ukraine has barely 100 western MBTs.
That doesn't explain why they're pulling back. Are they pulling back so Ukraine has to spread thin clearing out the territory and then do a counter-attack? I keep being told the Russians have loads of reserves and stuff so that must be it.
>No u!
No wonder Fagner is pulling out, once all the good zigger shills got mobilized and died in Bakhmut this trash is what was on the list to go next.
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
You are lucky that you are too stupid to get drafted.
Yeah the same one Ukraine just droned major oil facilities on both sides of despite not having advanced yet. That bridge.
Fucking Vatniks are going to deliberately put themselves in a self regulating POW camp with no supplies/food like the Japanese in WW2 and they're acting like it is a good thing.
1. Disinformation from the Ukies to create panic among Russians
2. Disinformation from the Russians to induce an attack where they want
3. Russians clearing out non-essentials to make it easier to defend/supply long term
4. An attempt by Russia to retreat to prewar borders and make a more credible nuclear threat
5. A real problem with Russian logistics that cannot be resolved. It might be better to retreat to more defensible lines that can be more easily supplied than risk destruction of irreplaceable equipment by holding extra terrain and cities which siphon manpower and risk partisan activity
I'm sure there are others. I don't think it is insane to retreat, but it runs counter productive to retreat after building all those entrenchments. My guess is #3
>A real problem with Russian logistics that cannot be resolved. It might be better to retreat to more defensible lines that can be more easily supplied than risk destruction of irreplaceable equipment by holding extra terrain and cities which siphon manpower and risk partisan activity
I pick this one. First it begins with random missile and drone strikes everywhere. Then come the partisans. Then the army pokes the weak spots, then breakthrough. Then good will gesture. Just like last time.
No but it makes third worlders like yourself to seethe. The cat will be keep getting posted until the war it's over and ziggers fuck off to their shit hole
Holy FUCK according to Igor Sushko, Russian MoD isn't allowing Wagner to withdraw and have snipers and artillery zoned in on them to prevent any withdrawal. THEY'RE LITERALLY FIGHTING THEMSELVES NOW
before: xaxaxaxa le stronk musicians will break the weak piggers in Bakhmut and conquer it!
after: fuck you for not giving us ammo, we're taking our toys and going home
Real question:
How many combat-capable troops does Wagner even have left? Will this even make a material difference on the ground?
Vaginer was pretty much the best they had on the ground. With them gone, the only decent troops remaining are what's left of the VDV, and those won't last out the year either.
Anything stopping the Russian Army pressing them in after dumping Prighozin’s body over a bridge?
It actually wouldn't surprise me if they try the same human wave tactics again when the Cadaverites arrive to their positions in Mariupol. Except this time it'll probably be Shtrafbat (penal battalions) formed by the Puccian MoD who will take the place of the cannon fodder while the Cadaverites and what's left of the VDV act as blocking troops and mop up.
The goal was not to take it. It was to reduce the West's supply of gunpowder, which succeeded
hi guys, can you delete your posts so mine can be first? i want to farm (you)'s and first post nearly always gets read but thirds don't. thanks.
They literally LEGALLY have though. Holy shit what is with PrepHole not respecting the rule of law?
I hate that stupid cat, I want to pet it even though I hate it
>no Bakhmut
>soon no Melitopol
lol
the absolute state of ziggers, holy shit.
why would you mine a fucking tree? do they think they're fighting squirrels?
Trees are often hugged for cover from drones and generally are useful at stopping certain calibre rounds. So you hug the edge (aka off the road) and set off the mine as you walk past.
these morons mine fucking everything out of spite. they've been caught mining dead bodies before too. It's in their modus operandi.
I am guessing that the cable we're seeing snaking out from the mine is crossing an open area they are expecting Ukies to drive through, the idea being that once you get deep enough innawoods, any direction you turn will have a tree explode and fill you with splinters.
of course, this is still admitting that you expect the enemy to be seizing your territory shortly...
These are the same people who apparently booby trapped a farmers beehives so it’s business as usual
Once the war is over, this is gonna be one hell of a cleanup. The butterfly mines are bad enough but there are so many nefarious traps being left behind. Some really spiteful ones.
I don’t understand why the Europeans are being such feckless, unenthusiastic contributors of material to Ukraine.
Like… in America fucking with Russia is tradition. And there’s the Budapest memorandum.
But the Russians are like… Europe’s next-door neighbor. If anyone was going to be invaded, it would be them. Poland and the Baltic states are taking this seriously, but how is Western Europe (Spain, France) and Southern Europe so lacking in camaraderie? Germany is doing OK, but damn do they drag their feet.
Isn’t Italy donating quite a lot?
>Armored personal carriers
Bandvagn BV-206S' [Before March 2023].
>Towed artillery
155mm FH-70s [May 2022]
>Self-Propelled Artillery
6 155mm PzH 2000s [Arrived to Ukraine from January 2023 onwards]
60 155mm M109L [Delivered from October 2022 onwards]
>Multiple rocket launchers
2 227mm M270A1 MLRS-Is [October 2022]
>Surface-To-Air Missile (SAM) Systems
SkyGuard Aspides [February 2023]
1 SAMP/T battery (joint-donation with France) [To be delivered]
>Vehicles
Iveco Lince LMV
IVECO ACM 90 4x4 heavy-duty trucks
IVECO Trakker T380WM
51 FIAT Fullback 4x4 pick-up trucks (used as a platform for ATGM's and Anti-air missiles)
11 TEKNE MLS Shield (bought by Petro Poroshenko for Ukraine)
>Man-portable air defence systems
Stinger surface to air missiles
>Anti-tank weapons
MILAN anti tank guided missiles
Panzerfaust anti-tank rpgs
>Small arms
M2 Browning heavy machine guns
Benelli M4 shotguns
Beretta mg 42/59 light machine guns
>Ammunition
120mm mortars and munitions
155mm NATO standard artillery shells
>Miscellaneous equipment
Italian plate carriers
Body armor, medical aid and food rations.
>Financial aid
€110 million on 27 February 2022.
Huh. Maybe I’m tripping and I just haven’t seen the assets on the field yet.
Alright. Let’s see how the counter-offensive goes.
I maintain that all European parties should be contributing way more unless they have a secret desire to go to war with each other on the continent. (Seems unlikely.)
Italy more than contributed their fair share, especially self propelled guns.
Why are they pulling out? They surely have enough forces to stop the counter-offensive? I was reading today about how they delivered 'hundreds' of T-90M 'Breakthrough' tanks to the commands in Ukraine. What the fuck? Ukraine has barely 100 western MBTs.
Deep demoralization
That doesn't explain why they're pulling back. Are they pulling back so Ukraine has to spread thin clearing out the territory and then do a counter-attack? I keep being told the Russians have loads of reserves and stuff so that must be it.
They call it breakthrough because any western AT will break through it's armor.
Good will gesture.
that has to be a troll
I refuse to believe the Russians are retarded enough to just let the Ukrainians split their conquered territory in two
Kerch bridge is fully repaired so having land bridge to Crimea is unneeded
Uhh wat? That bridge will go down in 10 sec when ukies secure Melitopol
Wrong
Cope
Yes you are
>No u!
No wonder Fagner is pulling out, once all the good zigger shills got mobilized and died in Bakhmut this trash is what was on the list to go next.
You are lucky that you are too stupid to get drafted.
Dude, they’re bomb the shit out of that bridge.
The longest bridge in Europe? The bridge that took half a year to repair after one Hispanicy truck? That bridge?
Yeah the same one Ukraine just droned major oil facilities on both sides of despite not having advanced yet. That bridge.
Fucking Vatniks are going to deliberately put themselves in a self regulating POW camp with no supplies/food like the Japanese in WW2 and they're acting like it is a good thing.
Who knows. Might be:
1. Disinformation from the Ukies to create panic among Russians
2. Disinformation from the Russians to induce an attack where they want
3. Russians clearing out non-essentials to make it easier to defend/supply long term
4. An attempt by Russia to retreat to prewar borders and make a more credible nuclear threat
5. A real problem with Russian logistics that cannot be resolved. It might be better to retreat to more defensible lines that can be more easily supplied than risk destruction of irreplaceable equipment by holding extra terrain and cities which siphon manpower and risk partisan activity
I'm sure there are others. I don't think it is insane to retreat, but it runs counter productive to retreat after building all those entrenchments. My guess is #3
>A real problem with Russian logistics that cannot be resolved. It might be better to retreat to more defensible lines that can be more easily supplied than risk destruction of irreplaceable equipment by holding extra terrain and cities which siphon manpower and risk partisan activity
I pick this one. First it begins with random missile and drone strikes everywhere. Then come the partisans. Then the army pokes the weak spots, then breakthrough. Then good will gesture. Just like last time.
I think it’s Russia giving Wagner notice that they’ve outlived their usefulness as a combat organization. So like #3, yeah.
I am absolutely boggled. This has to be a trap, right?
Imagine being retarded enough to seethe on a bait thread like this
IT KEEPS HAPPENING
Weren't those where more fuel storages were located? perhaps Ukraine is targeting those
Just had a look and it seems explosions were reported all across Crimea, lmao
https://nitter.it/TreasChest/status/1655021907391967233
Can we stop making the same fucking thread every few days
No.
Newest one from my collection
No but it makes third worlders like yourself to seethe. The cat will be keep getting posted until the war it's over and ziggers fuck off to their shit hole
this defeat and China taking over the eastern parts are going to be hard to digest for the vatniks.
Are you going to abandooooon this thread just like Fagner?
Hey PAFP, I spoke to you in that /co/ thread. Glad you got unbanned.
Like Kyiv, Kerson or Kharkiv, Bakhmut was never that important...
How many troops is Kadyrov going to deploy to Bahmut after the 10th to replace Wagner?
Holy FUCK according to Igor Sushko, Russian MoD isn't allowing Wagner to withdraw and have snipers and artillery zoned in on them to prevent any withdrawal. THEY'RE LITERALLY FIGHTING THEMSELVES NOW
Sushko should be taken with a grain of salt, he sometimes exaggerates or posts rumors.
Link us. Or screencap.
“What do you mean I can’t just quit the army?”
BASED BLOCKING DETACHMENTS ARE BACK BABY! We might see the birth of the next Vasily Zaytsev.