Potent and powerful

The regime in Australia seeks to bring fire and fury against all who oppose its puppet master.

  1. 4 days ago
    Anonymous

    Why did you not just post the article. Was it because it's from a rag that nobody in Australia actually respects?

    https://www.baka.com.au/politics/federal/australia-buys-potent-and-powerful-sea-mines-to-deter-china-20230119-p5ce1d.html

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11664401/The-echidna-strategy-defend-Australia.html

    Your "sources" include such bangers as

    >Sea mines are powerful and potent, but navies are traditionally very reluctant to invest in them,' Professor White said.
    >As part of this push it was announced in January that Defence is buying 20 land-based 'god of war' High Mobility Artillery Rocket Systems (HIMARS), which launch surface-to-surface precision guided missiles that can strike an enemy 300km away.

    Come back when you know what the ADF is actually procuring you dumb cunt.

    • 4 days ago
      Anonymous

      >Australia's Defence Minister Richard Marles has said the country needs to become a porcupine island festooned with high-grade weaponry.

    • 4 days ago
      Anonymous

      not the guy you were replying to but given everything else it can do I would not be at all surprised if HIMARS had a rocket that could deploy naval mines at range
      If it doesn't then they need to make one because that would be really fucking useful for us down here

      • 4 days ago
        Anonymous

        The old CAPTOR, or the new Hammerhead design would probably be the only mines able to fit into the launchers, but, would lack any room for a tactically relevant booster to launch them - if they even could. You would be better off just getting GMLRS-ER, or ATACMS with an active seeker head for anti-ship roles, and stick with planes, ships, and subs planting the mines.

        • 4 days ago
          Anonymous

          They cancelled the anit-ship ATACMS called Cross Domain CD-ATACMS, in favor of using the budget to further the anti-ship version of the PrSM, which Aussies are getting, along with GMLRS-ER.

      • 4 days ago
        Anonymous

        Any 80series aircraft bomb can take a DST anti-ship mine fuze instead of the usual fuzes.
        >magnetic/sound detection of targets
        >buries itself on the bottom in mud and debris so no trawling mine-sweeps
        >uses the bubble-effect to break a ships keel not just blow a hole by contact
        Drop it with a guidance kit and it can be placed within a metre of any spot in a harbour or channel although it has a wider range because its not like the old floating 'horn' contact mines

        • 4 days ago
          Anonymous

          Brilliant, but how do we fire it from a rocket launcher?

          • 4 days ago
            Anonymous

            Why? HIMARS is limited by Treaty to 300km, even F35 can fly further than that.

            • 4 days ago
              Anonymous

              >HIMARS is limited by Treaty to 300km
              Not anymore, it isn't. That's why the PrSM will be 750km range, and why the Army is finally getting land based Tomahawks back.

          • 4 days ago
            Anonymous

            You don't. You strap it to a wing kit and launch it from your F/A-18s. The US already has you covered, homie. No need for the retarded shit.

          • 4 days ago
            Anonymous

            Fuck firing one out of a HIMARS, they don't even need exact placement, just load pallets of
            a hundred 500lb-ers into a C17 and cargo-dump them off the ramp across miles of chinky ocean for shits&giggles

            • 4 days ago
              Anonymous

              Exactly. Just modify the pallet system from Rapid Dragon a little, and you have a potent multipurpose delivery system. Which can also launch LRASM-A, and JASSM-ER. Aussies have taken finalizing the booster for the Surface Launched LRASM-A over, too. So, get you some HIMARS with anti-ship PrSM, some SHORAD with NSM, and some Typhoon vertical launch systems able to launch tomahawk block V, SM-6, and SL-LRASM-A, and you have quite a potent anti-ship defense system.

              Typhoon: https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/first-land-based-tomahawk-and-sm-6-launcher-delivered-to-army

              • 4 days ago
                Anonymous

                You dont even need Rapid Dragon, just uncrate them and have the Loadies roll them off the back ramp like ww2 stick-bombing, they dont need any aiming, just freefall into a general area

              • 4 days ago
                Anonymous

                Even if a few miss and land on the actual port DSTs are a prick to deal with as UXO.
                Because of trying to approach the magnetic sensor, the EOD guy has to nude-up because no boot eyelets or pants zippers, and only use nonmagnetic tools

              • 4 days ago
                Anonymous

                kek. If you wish. I can imagine Bruce rolling mines off the cargo ramp of a 130 while shit talking chinks and his superiors. More cunts slug around than mines.

            • 4 days ago
              Anonymous

              Why? HIMARS is limited by Treaty to 300km, even F35 can fly further than that.

              You don't. You strap it to a wing kit and launch it from your F/A-18s. The US already has you covered, homie. No need for the retarded shit.

              Fuck you all and fuck your logistical primacy, I want to fire a 2000lb naval mine from a ground based rocket launcher and you cant convince me that there isn't a way to do it

              • 4 days ago
                Anonymous

                You could definitely design a system to do it, though, it would be extremely impractical. Especially when systems already exist that are just as good, and much cheaper.

              • 4 days ago
                Anonymous

                OK so for a more serious approach, I like the idea because it gives us a reliable way of deploying naval mines even in contested waters and airspace, much as the conventional HIMARS rockets allow for long range precision strikes into enemy controlled territory even without air superiority
                Such a system, if it had the range, would let us mine the absolute fuck out of all those sweet naval chokepoints just to the north even if the PLAN was breathing right down our necks, which is a capability I suspect we may need one day

              • 4 days ago
                Anonymous

                The HIMARS system isn't long enough to utilize such a system. This is all just spitballing, so, bare with me: An ATACMS warhead weighs 213kg - 243kg, and has a range of 270km - 300km. It uses, roughly, a 9ft long, 2ft wide booster to achieve this. Now, take the 9ft booster and strap your 2000lb 10ft mine on the front, and you have a 20ft surface launched mine. Problem is, it will be sticking 6ft-7ft out of your HIMARS launcher, and have a range of 75km max. So, you're going to need to move to a Mk57 VLS or similar custom launch tube, as it won't fit in a Mk41 VLS. Now, if you're wanting more than 75km range, you're going to need to add another booster to that ATACMS, which is going to get you a 30ft long SL-mine that will need a custom launch tube. To me, it just doesn't make sense to spend that money when you have all these other options already in service - or that could be modified with minimal work.

              • 4 days ago
                Anonymous

                So what other systems are available then that offer the same capability, namely to sow mines in enemy waters even in contested airspace?
                Give me a list and some recommendations and tomorrow I will march that shit straight down to my local MP as soon as I finish my morning slab

              • 4 days ago
                Anonymous

                None, that I know of, as it's a rather impractical weapons system. You just have the US mine with their subs in contested waters. OR maybe make some air-launched stand-off version from the powered JDAM kit. Would be rather simple to do.
                https://www.airandspaceforces.com/power-jdam-boeings-new-alternative-to-cruise-missiles/

              • 4 days ago
                Anonymous

                The way I see it, any situation where we actually have to defend waters that close to the home Island means America is already out of the fight (at least temporarily) and so that's what I'm trying to plan for

              • 4 days ago
                Anonymous

                Put them there before chinks move in.

              • 4 days ago
                Anonymous

                if they turn the indos we might not have a chance, the waters would be contested from day 1
                I'm talking worst case scenarios here because that's the only kind of situation where me and the boys could actually be under any threat

              • 4 days ago
                Anonymous

                Better hurry up and get them in the waters, then. Going to be a lot faster than making some SL-mine system.

              • 4 days ago
                Anonymous

                >contested airspace
                >PLA-AF
                Pick only one
                Just put JSOW on F35 or FA-18s and follow it up with the

                You dont even need Rapid Dragon, just uncrate them and have the Loadies roll them off the back ramp like ww2 stick-bombing, they dont need any aiming, just freefall into a general area

                C17 of DSTs ten minutes later

        • 4 days ago
          Anonymous

          Same as modern torpedoes - the warhead doesnt actually hit the ship anymore, it just collapses the water support under the keel and snaps it.

          • 4 days ago
            Anonymous

            Quicksink JDAM kits can do that, too, and can also be dropped from the F/A-18, or F-35.

            • 4 days ago
              Anonymous

              B-52 dropping Quickstrike-ER. Just gib shekels and US gib weapons to sink the chink. Easy-peasy.

    • 4 days ago
      Anonymous

      >baka.co.au

      • 4 days ago
        Anonymous

        Those fucked filters have been around since real-Moot and re now pointless shit as nobody remembers why onions are filtered.
        And I suspect HiroMoot and the fuckwit chud-jannies he hires now dont actually know how to turn them off.
        >shaking my humungouscock

        • 4 days ago
          Anonymous

          They know how, and keep adding more. Like soi being filtered into onions.

    • 4 days ago
      Anonymous

      >Professor White
      Opinion discarded

  2. 4 days ago
    Anonymous

    >America gives their puppet states highly restricted informaition the construciton of nuclear attack submarines
    >in the future, might provide their puppet state with entire nuclear submarines, their premiere stealth bomber and fighter

    Has there ever been a more benevolent empire in history?

    • 4 days ago
      Anonymous

      America at it's worst is anywhere else at its best. Pay your taxes, support the military, join the reserves, the only reason to oppose the state is if they come for your arms, otherwise it doesn't matter how much 4chan cries about gays and morons.

      • 4 days ago
        Anonymous

        Glowing too hard

    • 4 days ago
      Anonymous

      >Benevolent
      The none Russian states that helped in WW2 and then again into other wars the most were gifted wealth beyond measure. This is just a follow on from the trust.

      • 4 days ago
        Anonymous

        Russia was also given wealth beyond measure, they just squandered it

  3. 4 days ago
    Anonymous

    >NOOOOOO YOU HAVE LET CHINER HAVE AUSTRALIA!!!!

    • 4 days ago
      Anonymous

      damnit Hu Flung Dung doxxed himself?

      • 4 days ago
        Anonymous

        Chinese people in Australia go around openly harassing anti-CCP and anti-Xi protestors, and even get protestors arrested with false police complaints.
        Doubt any gives a shit about being doxxed since they practically own the place.

        • 4 days ago
          Anonymous

          let me guess, you're some retarded Drew Pavlol supporter.
          keep digging the ground, cunt.

    • 4 days ago
      Anonymous

      damnit Hu Flung Dung doxxed himself?

  4. 4 days ago
    Anonymous
  5. 4 days ago
    Anonymous

    Australia doesn't have a regime. Why do you write like this? It's projecting and cringe.

    • 4 days ago
      Anonymous

      Sure we do, we had the Howard regime from '94 to '07, which was followed by the Rudd regime, which was followed by the Gillard regime, which was followed by the Rudd regime again which was then followed by the Abbot, Turnbull and Morrison regimes respectively, which were finally usurped in '22 by the current Albanese regime.
      Who knows what regime we'll have next?

  6. 4 days ago
    Anonymous

    All this defense spending but they just let the ccp purchase entire city blocks in sydney or canberra anyways. Why bother

    • 4 days ago
      Anonymous

      >hahaha we'll just buy your country out 🙂
      I think if Russia's escapades in Ukraine have taught us anything, its that if a host government suddenly has reason to kill any of your citizens repossessing your property isn't difficult.

      Seriously. Send some undeclared PLA guys into Sydney and have them try a raid on an AFP office or something stupid. All of those "vacant" properties conveniently next to government offices will be repossessed.

    • 4 days ago
      Anonymous

      if it ever came down to it the properites would just get repossed in the interest of national security

    • 4 days ago
      Anonymous

      As we know, governments NEVER nationalise any assets in time of war.

      Its why i don't understand why people insist the ownership of the dock in darwin is a national security issue. Its not like they can't dock ships in it without the government knowing and in a time of war we can simply nationalise it.

      • 4 days ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah, thats the hilarious part
        >chinks steal money in china
        >invest it in aussie houses
        >think that if china collapses they can run out and hide in australia
        >China goes to War - with Australia directly - or more likely, Australia joins the US in opposing a chinese invasion of Taiwan because AUKUS
        >Australia rounds up all "enemy aliens" and puts them in work-camps like they did to Japs Italians and Germans in ww2
        > then confiscates all their foreign-owned assets... ports, companies, farms, houses, the lot.
        No refunds
        Kek
        Go ahead, Chang, pay lots of money for another Port.

  7. 4 days ago
    Anonymous

    Impressive.

    With this most recent achievement, fate has in a single stroke, marked the decline of the south east and spelled a new era of wondrous prosperity and peaceful global dominance for the Australian kangaroo, which promises to firmly stand in sharp contrast to the historically bloody ascent of eastern powers and the cruel subjugation it brought to the humbler nations of the world. With the blessings of Australian potent and powerful sea mines, Ghost Bat stealth technology, nuclear submarine building capabilities, VB-powered aircraft carriers and Five Eyes information gathering will be the instruments with which Australia affirms its noble stewardship of 21st century world politics and offers the non-Chang world a different option; an humanist alternative to the depredations of Eastern leadership and the opportunity for a more equitable and dignified

    • 4 days ago
      Anonymous

      … ya cunts

  8. 4 days ago
    Anonymous

    All that money spent and not one regional war, what a waste.

  9. 4 days ago
    Anonymous

    'ea moin

    • 4 days ago
      Anonymous

      >Release unintelligible sphere

  10. 4 days ago
    Anonymous

    How ya going, sirs

  11. 4 days ago
    Anonymous

    Basically
    >Australia to invest $1Billion in mines, purchased from overseas

    • 4 days ago
      Anonymous

      Aussies do a lot of joint work with US defense contractors, and lack the budget to make everything themselves. What do you expect them to do? Not like the US is going to abandon them, or anything.

      • 4 days ago
        Anonymous

        There was no negative connotations in my comment, just summarising the situation because OP is a gay

      • 4 days ago
        Anonymous

        Its not that we lack the budget, its that we lack the economy of scale. Foreign equipment is cheaper because they can simply manufacture a whole lot more of it than we can. So we can make high end equipment but if its going to be cheap enough to justify spending taxpayer money on it we'd need good export market success.

        • 4 days ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah, that's what I was saying with the joint work with the US. Easier to offload some of the R&D costs, along with batch pricing. Your budget isn't big, though.

          • 4 days ago
            Anonymous

            The defence budget is around 2.3% of GDP afaik, which in terms of intl rankings is around the same spending as Italy overall but with a smaller population.

            • 4 days ago
              Anonymous

              For the area that you have to defend, it's honestly miniscule. It should be double that. And not spent on stupid shit like tanks.

  12. 4 days ago
    Anonymous

    why is the australian navy such a meme? they're a fucking island nation

    • 4 days ago
      Anonymous

      >why is the australian navy such a meme?
      Population, distances and money anon. It explains everything about Australian defence.

      Take a conventional submarine. If your in Europe you can do what you want wherever you like and you don't even need to surface, in Australia just moving a submarine from Perth to Brisbane is an international deployment for the average Europoor, same for Japan, SK and others. You can't get away with that here BUT your also 25 million people so you can't really afford nuclear submarines and you can't really build huge numbers of conventional either. What do you do? Spend 60 years using 6 conventional submarines with as long a range as you can afford... that still don't do what you really need.

      Now apply that to everything, want large numbers of surface vessels but you can't do what the euros do and buy shit loads of smaller ships like corvettes because they are fucking toys compared to ranges and role required by Australian geography. Destroyers would do it but you can't afford enough of them and you can't man them because population and wage costs. What do you do? Buy the most capable 10,000 tonne frigates you can buy and hope for the best. Then you invest in force multipliers. You can't afford 200 fighters even though you need them? Buy 80/100 F-35 plus all the tip top ISR you can get like satellites etc (all shit that nations of 25 million can't do and can't afford).

      Applies to the army too. Want high numbers, well you can't afford it, wages are too high. You could fatten it out on paper like europoors by just buying tanks but guess what you can't because you don't have a border and you'll never be able to sealift/deploy 600 Abrams even if you can afford them. Solution, buy token amount of tanks and just invest in small number of highly trained soilders to cover contributions to US expeditions.

      What are you left with, a capable but very boutique defence force. It can do everything just not at the scale you need it.

      • 4 days ago
        Anonymous

        Ironically the no bullshit solution to Australia's geographic and demographic problems right now are indigenous nukes and 4 SLBMs. Anything else is pushing shit up hill. Not until we hit 40 million do these problems start to fade but that's not until 2046-2050.

        https://www.abs.gov.au/articles/australias-population-reach-30-million-11-15-years

      • 4 days ago
        Anonymous

        This.
        Plus ustralia basically dominates one whole hemisphere of the globe.
        (Ignoring Indonesia, because its irrelevant even to Indons.)
        Apart from the Chinese Costline and Japan there is nothing in range of Australia except ICBMs.
        The indon archipelago acts as line of messy barriers between Australia and anywhere else.
        The PLA-N cant sail through operationally without getting chanelled into a hundred seperate kill-zones with no idea where they would get ambushed or just roll over a smart minefield.
        Conversely the RAN has the same issue with sending its surface fleet north and with diesel subs - the old O-class boats used to slip through by snorkelling at night as the TNI-N is useless but you cant do that nowadays when china has satellite imaging.
        So nuke boats for the RAN reset the strategic balance in the Austrlian Hemisphere.
        >"We will sit off their coast and run missile drills" isnt just HfRO, its the new RAN plan to scare the shit out of the Chinese.

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