open bolt pistols

do you leave it cocked while carrying?
or do you charge the bolt on the draw like a revolver

  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    These gats aren't meant for passive defense, you pull 'em out when you know you'll get in a firefight. Depending on their designs they often aren't really drop safe. Bolt remains closed until the last moment

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      they're usually LESS drop safe when the bolt is closed unless they have good safety mechanisms that lock the bolt forward

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        What? The bolt is going to rack a round in the chamber and fire it on it’s own? Retard.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          drop your gun on its ass with the bolt forward and a loaded mag in and tell me what happens

          • 3 weeks ago
            cyrus

            on an open bolt gun? literally nothing.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              lol
              lmao

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                it's okay i accept your concession. no worries

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                https://thefiringline.com/forums/showpost.php?p=6935085&postcount=3

                https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jFp87Ccr1D0
                2:50

                Take the name off moron or keep it on so everyone can filter your worthless ass

                oh shit does Dugan have a video on this, dank

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              2:50

              Take the name off moron or keep it on so everyone can filter your worthless ass

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                it stayed on from my initial post

                bolt open, safety always off

                which was a reference. keep seething and being wrong

                I have an open bolt M11/9 in my hands.
                The geometry easily allows for a round to be stripped, chambered, and fired without the bolt coming back far enough to catch the sear.
                That is why the safety locks the bolt in whichever position it is in. Proper use would be to keep bolt down and safety on. Then you take off safety and charge it when you are going to fire.

                how far would you have to whip it at the ground in order to do that? dropping an open bolt firearm on the ground will not be enough to move the bolt sufficiently to fire.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                it didn't look like Dugan hit it very hard in that video that was posted just a literal second ago that you are too stupid to watch

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Iinertia is a bitch, so it's easier than you think for the bolt to travel back far enough to clear the top round but avoid getting caught on the sear. Some sub gun designs largely prevent this but others do not.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Depends on the caliber, but with the stock bolt (which weighs very little) on an M11/9, you can feel it move back and forth a small bit even slapping the back of it on a gloved hand. I could easily see a trip sending it flying and popping off a round when it lands. Definitely would have to have the stars align a little bit it's mechanically possible whereas it isn't on pretty much all closed bolt guns that aren't made by sig.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >how far would you have to whip it at the ground in order to do that? dropping an open bolt firearm on the ground will not be enough to move the bolt sufficiently to fire.
                Semi related despite being closed bolt but still concerning: I was just reading about a guy who claims he kept his sks with hammer back, no round in chamber, but mag loaded full, I assume for home defense. Fell from above his door (why the fuck would he hang it there?) and it fell on the butt with enough speed giving a hard enough impact to supposedly throw the bolt back far enough to strip a round and load itself. Sample size of "one dickhead on a forum" but you get the idea. I can only imagine with a heavier bolt and a straight blowback, it'd be much easier to do something like that, but I've never owned an open bolt, full or semi auto.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I have an open bolt M11/9 in my hands.
              The geometry easily allows for a round to be stripped, chambered, and fired without the bolt coming back far enough to catch the sear.
              That is why the safety locks the bolt in whichever position it is in. Proper use would be to keep bolt down and safety on. Then you take off safety and charge it when you are going to fire.

  2. 3 weeks ago
    cyrus

    bolt open, safety always off

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Open bolt guns get carried with the bolt forwards and cocked when ready for use. Safety with the bolt closed varies from gun to gun, but a big ass opening where the ejection port is begs malfunctions.

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