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I'm very interested in Japanese swords. Specifically the Tachi. From what I know it was essentially a cavalry saber but it was also used in dismounted combat. I want to know how it was used on foot against other armored opponents.

I've heard it was used in a one handed stance with the supporting hand used to guide the blade into weak spots of the foes armor.

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  1. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I recommend you get a copy of Kokan Nagayama's The Connoisseur's Book Of Japanese Swords

  2. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >. I want to know how it was used on foot against other armored opponents
    When guns were introduced to Japan the sword basically became obsolete. They became side side arms. Spears were the primary arm until the musket came. Japanese warfare is just pike and shot but with worse tactics.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Im aware of that. the question I asked was about how swords were used.

      At some point, someone's Yari broke and he had to pull his sidearm. the employment of that weapon is what Im interested in.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Warfare, especially earlier warfare was similar to medieval Europe, where you had well armored knights, but the majority if the force was lesser armored lower class people, same in Japan especially in the time of the Tachi.
        If a samurai lost their pole arm, most of their opponents were unarmored/lightly armored peasants essentially.
        It seems close combat between samurai was again, similar to knights fighting, grappling techniques with short rigid knives, knights with their rondell/bollocks dagger, and samurai with a tanto.

      • 2 years ago
        KM

        The tachi and katana were likely used much the same on foot, in Japanese martial arts they are usually lumped together as "large swords" (daito).
        Now to deal with armoured opponents half-swording like you describe was one way they'd approach it. But they may also hold the sword in a more normal way and simply try to hit the gaps regardless. Overall armour will likely tend to make fights a bit more close ranged, more deliberate, with more focus on defending yourself with the sword instead of avoiding and with more wrestling involved. (Ie much the same basic ideas as in Europe.)
        Some koryu schools practice and do demonstrations in armour though that seems quite rare, others (like katori shinto ryu) have most of their techniques based around the idea that the enemy will be armoured, but usually don't armour up for demonstrations making it a bit hard to notice this.

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        >At some point, someone's Yari broke
        As a little bit of trivia here, there's a good chance that any given koryu school that teaches both spear and/or naginata and staff teaches the latter as plan B (for "oh Bugger") in case the polearm breaks. Though switching to your sword would certainly be considered an option as well, and may also be wise even before your spear gives up in case combat ends up more close-ranged.

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        I recommend you get a copy of Kokan Nagayama's The Connoisseur's Book Of Japanese Swords

        That one says basically nothing about how to use the swords. Better books on old Japanese martial arts are Amdur's "Old School", Otake's "Katori Shinto Ryu" and the three volume set edited together by Skoss. https://www.koryu.com/bookstore/classicalwarriortraditions.html

        Semi-related note.
        As I've come to recently discover, almost every retailer which sells asian swords (including weaboo style swords) sources their blades from the same factory in china. It's a fact that's fairly well known within swordgay communities. What you really end up paying for is a better fit and finish, which to a lot of people don't realize, and probably don't need.

        The fit can have a significant impact on whether or not the handle comes apart mid-swing.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          thanks for these videos man this is exactly what I was looking for.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >The tachi and katana were likely used much the same on foot,
          tachi are half-tang. you can't use them like a katana. the sword schools are actually different.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            I've heard this exactly once before, and it was explicitly in reference to using suriage blades one handed so as to not damage them.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >When guns were introduced to Japan the sword basically became obsolete
      I thought it took a while before firearms came into it's own?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Why did you say this? What does it have to do with anything? I know you want to feel smart, but in completely ignoring the context of the question you've made yourself look like an idiot. Besides, we all already knew.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >Japanese warfare is just pike and shot but with worse tactics
      which completely explains why Japan was conquered by invading forces many times...you blockhead

      [...]
      Swordgays are even more autistic than firearm owners and there are several guys who regularly buy swords just to torture test them and post the results. When they finally break some of those guys even have the metallurgy checked to confirm if a certain brand is punching above or below it's price point.

      Most of the higher end asian sword stores here in America sell blades that are very much inteded to be used as a weapon. They're fully functional. The blades all come from a factory in Longquan and the chinks know what they're doing because they've been doing it for decades. Even the nips themselves buy blades from this factory.

      The scam is that a lot of guys on the American end of the business are constantly finding ways to weasel their unsuspecting customers out of hundreds if not thousands of dollars, either by purchasing factory second blades, or by skimping on the parts that are added afterward, such as the handle, the guard, the scabbard, etc.

      >The blades all come from a factory in Longquan

      Semi-related note.
      As I've come to recently discover, almost every retailer which sells asian swords (including weaboo style swords) sources their blades from the same factory in china. It's a fact that's fairly well known within swordgay communities. What you really end up paying for is a better fit and finish, which to a lot of people don't realize, and probably don't need.

      >same factory in china.
      No. There are two centers of modern sword making in China- one is in Dalian, started up by Paul Chen about 30ish years ago. The other is in Longquan, which has been making swords for about 2500 years and is part of the "Intangible cultural heritage of China" so is protected/sanctioned by the state.
      Dalian is a major industrial hub with lots of knife and tool makers.
      in both Dalian and Longquan there are a good handful of shops making swords, I think 3-4 in 1 and a dozen+ in the other.
      These shops rarely sell direct, instead they supply resellers both in China and abroad (Ronin Katana e.g.). Resellers will have their preferred makers but most will also go to alternates to meet demand.
      As a rule, you get what you pay for- $120-180 swords have welded tangs and a spring temper and cheap furniture.
      As you go up in price swords get better and better, right along to traditionally hand made and polished swords with differential tempers and top quality fittings. Longquan actually produces most of the really good stuff for the Chinese market, there is a huge boom right now.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Japan's musket drill was better, not worse, than Europe's for like a hundred years.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Bullshit the weeb cavemen would have been torn apart by European armies who simply had weapons that were better made from better materials wilder by bigger men. The carousel etc would have devastated little weeb men who never even got as far as the flintlock. The british snider was a technological revolution for the little bastards and they used it to kill all the stupid orange is the new black weebs and they did it using french cavalry swords and infantry sabres because they are way better than weeb swords in metalurgy and design specifically for use on horseback. Weebs suck. Weebsowrds suck and weeb weapons desterve a place somewhere be4side zulu spears

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Take a deep breath and dry your tears.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Holy cope. Nips were fighting with 150k armies 25% of those being musketeers while 10k army was massive in europe.

          Spanish armada had 17k soldiers on board and that was enough to conquer England at the time. Meanwhile just 4 years later Japan invaded Korea with a total force of about 300k people.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >Meanwhile just 4 years later Japan invaded Korea with a total force of about 300k people.
            howd that go for them?

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Weebs tried making this from thousand folder paper and wood but it failed so hard that they broke themselves and had no resnassiance

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              >no resnassiance
              HA so. No perspective. So sad. Snow on vo0lcvano mountain. No depth persepctive. Hari kiki philip glass music

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              Grorious Nippon samurai helmets not only one gorillion forded STEEL but have rear mustach, lazy burgers onry have chinress shovelhead dildo hermets

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                inferious to european facial hair helm see pic

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                ahem..make way

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                https://i.imgur.com/JXENryu.jpg

                ahem..make way

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous
            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              Oops western civilisation did it again, sorry weeb metallurgy and iron ore so sorry

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Hahahaha pure seethe.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Highly debatable.
        http://www.myarmoury.com/talk/viewtopic.php?t=4830

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Are you that one autist who doesn't understand what a sidearm is and gets terminally butthurt whenever someone mentions the Romans btfoing spear-using barbarians using the gladius and scutum?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >When guns were introduced to Japan the sword basically became obsolete
      Bullshit. Throughout the world swords only became obsolete in the end of the 19th Century with the advent of repeating firearms and machineguns.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      holy frick speargays are so annoying

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        They're bitter because their biweekly bait thread is getting ignored no matter how much they bump it.

  3. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    From my extensive experience in the hyper-accurate simulator Shogun 2: Saber cavalry are decent at harassment, diversion and scouting but must fight quickly and leave when they are not in favor. When the enemy forms a strong line, they can attack the sides and lower the amount of troops your line has to face. If the enemy has spears, you can flank all the way around the line forcing the enemy to stop and reform with a weaker side for your large force to attack. Spear cavalry is better, it's just a better tool for the job. But saber cavalry can also dismount and fight close range if needed.

  4. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Semi-related note.
    As I've come to recently discover, almost every retailer which sells asian swords (including weaboo style swords) sources their blades from the same factory in china. It's a fact that's fairly well known within swordgay communities. What you really end up paying for is a better fit and finish, which to a lot of people don't realize, and probably don't need.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      I mean if you're going to pay for a Japanese sword, you might as well drop a few thousands on a real one.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        you shouldn't be expecting a quality sword from a retail seller, its not a weapon, its a piece of furniture

        Swordgays are even more autistic than firearm owners and there are several guys who regularly buy swords just to torture test them and post the results. When they finally break some of those guys even have the metallurgy checked to confirm if a certain brand is punching above or below it's price point.

        Most of the higher end asian sword stores here in America sell blades that are very much inteded to be used as a weapon. They're fully functional. The blades all come from a factory in Longquan and the chinks know what they're doing because they've been doing it for decades. Even the nips themselves buy blades from this factory.

        The scam is that a lot of guys on the American end of the business are constantly finding ways to weasel their unsuspecting customers out of hundreds if not thousands of dollars, either by purchasing factory second blades, or by skimping on the parts that are added afterward, such as the handle, the guard, the scabbard, etc.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      you shouldn't be expecting a quality sword from a retail seller, its not a weapon, its a piece of furniture

  5. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Does anyone have that picture with the breakdown of the 2nd amendment by language used at the time of writing. I'm dealing with a "hurr they only had muskets back then and it says militia" moron

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >I'm dealing with a "hurr they only had muskets back then and it says militia" moron
      So ask them if the first amendment only applies to speaking out loud with your voice; they didn't have radio, telephones, or internet back then either.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah I will but I wanna hit them with a well thought out counter point with support. It's not enough to make fun of them. I need to make sure they realize they are being fooled. This one could be redeemable.

  6. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Is there any wireless electronic ear pro ear buds worth it for under 100?

  7. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Where did you hear that? Some sort of autism focused animation?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      No it makes sense you dumb frick.

      The Tachi was used in the warring states period when you where more likely to have to kill a guy in armor so it makes sense that you would use one hand on the hilt and the other on the flat of the bladed to shove it into your opponents neck/armpit/groin.

      Really, do it. You know you have that gun on the table. Do us all a favor and eat it.

      • 2 years ago
        KM

        >The Tachi was used in the warring states period
        It was, but that's also the period where the katana rose to prominence (it first emerged all the way back in the Kamakura period, but at the time would only have been used by the lower ranking soldiers). So both have seen their fair share of anti-armour work.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          all these stupid names and acting like they are all such unique developments when its the same fricking sword they all look the fricking same just like their chink users the only diference is like a few inches in length but same shape, style, blade, curve, all their fricking swords are the same stop acting like there is any fricking groundbreaking advance in technology here.

          ITS THE SAME FRICKING SHIT JUST SHORTER OR LONGER

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            While you're right that there's no major groundbreaking shit going on there are lots of differences other than just muh length. Generally speaking Tachis have a lot more curve than most other Japanese blades.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            All both of them... Someone has some homework related trauma he needs to get over.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            They don't act like it's a huge development though. Katanas are worn edge up and are for civilian wear, tachis are worn edge down for the battlefield. Tachi is simply an older term, so it's what we use for battlefield swords. Simple as. Now stop screeching and get a hold of yourself.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          My man, katana just means "sword". The tachi and the uchigatana is what you're comparing. And the main difference is the exact curvature and that the tachi is carried edge down, while the uchigatana is edge up.

  8. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Dimensionally it was similar to a saber.
    But shitty jap steel made them fragile, so they gos shorter and thicker and became the katana.

  9. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Basic reading on swords especially if you're interested in the construction and materials.
    https://www.tf.uni-kiel.de/matwis/amat/iss/

  10. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    is anyone here

  11. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Japanese swords are quite terrible at both slashing and thrusting compared to european and even chinese designs and japanese warriors strongly preferred bows and polearms for everything but beheading unarmored peasants. I can't imagine being interested in such terrible weapons. All the japs ever did was ape smithing techniques they learned from the chinese and get super autistic over how well they could make pig iron into a sword that didn't immediately dull or break.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >Japanese swords are quite terrible at both slashing and thrusting compared to european and even chinese designs
      lmao

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Can't believe people have been parroting this same garbage for over 5 years now. We get it, you watched some sword youtubers and read memes on here.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah I dont get it either. The jap swordsmiths had to put a LOT more effort into creating good blades than their european counterparts but that doesnt mean they couldnt create good blades.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Their blades were trash although artisinal and fancy. Japanese swords are about arts and culture. As weapons a well sharpened machete would do better.

          A viking era frankish sword would probably cleave a katana in two and go on to outdo it in every other way

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            I wouldn't say they were trash. They the best examples of Japanese swordsmiths were probably on par with a "pretty good" European swordsmith.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            I wouldn't say they were trash. They the best examples of Japanese swordsmiths were probably on par with a "pretty good" European swordsmith.

            They were far better, as were Chinese, indian and Persian steel and blades than the west until around the 1700s when crucible steel became a thing and enabled Europeans to stop half-assing it and produce consistent batches of steel
            Japanese steel weapons were a major export for centuries before the Portuguese showed up

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Even youtubers aren't that moronic

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Contemporaries in China had pretty much nothing but good things to say about Japanese swords, even the 19th century Europeans who had close to modern metallurgy generally praised them.

  12. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >I want to know how it was used on foot against other armored opponents.
    probably poorly and as a last ditch when nothing else was available
    these are guys who would unironically dual wield and had short weapons specifically so they could run into tight melees and wildly slash people

  13. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    That seems like a fair question that is probably deserving of it's own thread, but we likely lack the expertise or knowledge to adequately explain.
    Swords are handed down generationally and you'll find out dated designs being carried around as status symbols in most cultures. The major differences I've noticed between katanas and tachi, is that katanas tend to have more of a curve possibly, and their worn with the blade pointed up. Tachi might be a little bit longer, but the sword was fitted to someone a few decades ago, possibly straighter, and worn edge down. Some people would just wear swords, regardless of culture to show off they have them. IF you're having a farmer/blm/canadian riot in your town over stop using fertalizer or something you might wanna wear your top of the line thing instead of the hand me down. Lots of people in other cultures would deck out their "flex" hand me downs with expensive shit. Japan really went through a period in history they tried to confiscate and destroy every blade so historically that culture was probably destroyed and it's mostly guess work about whom did what when and how aside from maybe trying to find paper work about it. Paper doesn't last very long.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      The Tachi tended to be more corned to aid in drawing it on horseback.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Corned aid? They fed their horse and had better cavalry? I'm really struggling to try and understand what you mean. I get a lot of siege warfare in japan revolved around salt trade and rice. My own clan had a multi-centuries long blood feud with another. Typically it would play out, someone goes into town. A fight breaks out, a man or two dies in the fighting. Everyone gears up for war. They lay siege on a castle. fighting ensues. A higher authority demands you stop fighting so you have men for their army when they want to attack others. For my clan it'd be what the Japanese consider a Diamyo.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          *curved

          I drank a lot of whiskey

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Oh that makes a lot more sense now that I'm more sober. It's been a long time since I studied any of this but I believe REALLY old swords had a long curviture then they started to straighten out, there is suppose to be a term for where the curve starts to happen relative to the size of the blade. I'm a soldier I study soldier stuff I don't care what time period it is, I'm not that familiar with cavalry things. Cavgays are bourgousie, the older dudes are cool to talk with but wannabe cav gays act like other people should wipe their ass for them. Not my focus of interest when I study things.

            • 2 years ago
              KM

              Tori-zori is when the curvature is even throughout the blade, koshi-zori has more curvature near the hilt, saki-zori has more curvature near the tip. Tori zori was basically always an option from the point we have specific Japanese styles and not just variations of Pan-Asian styles. Early on koshi-zori was also popular, while saki-zori is mostly a thing for Sengoku period katana and in its more extreme forms for not-so-old naginata (ie they went there from tori zori at some point in time but I can't really recall when).
              As for the exact amount of curvature that's meandered back and forth between time periods and styles.

  14. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >I'm very interested in Japanese swords. Specifically the Tachi.
    You are a big thousand folded gay weeb buyt hopefully you will grow out of it and figure out European and Indo Persian arms are all that fricking matters. Even the gay that makes sword threads knows this

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Just buy an AR-15 like a normal person

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        ARs are the happy meal of guns, children are magically attracted to them, they both contain cheap plastic and compared to alternatives they both suck but people will always buy them because advertising. 556 sucks. You suck. Weebs suck.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Black person why are you shitposting in such a specific thread that's not even that populated. I made this thread for one reason, to talk about the Tachi. And I can't even have my little thread without you c**tS coming in here and fricking it up.

          I really cannot put into words how much I fricking hate what you're doing. I hope you die. I hope you fricking die.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            PrepHole invented the phrase “hiding your powerlevel” so we openly hate a lot of japanese culture to make up for how much we jack off to haruhi tbh

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            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              What is suigintou’s sword anyways? Simple hilted rapier? Weird longsword?

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                estoc. you may think of it as a sort of precursor of the rapier, but designed for armored combat

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Holy shit it IS that one spear autist whose crush clearly got fricked by a swordgay.

      https://i.imgur.com/jfGcvH1.jpg

      Black person why are you shitposting in such a specific thread that's not even that populated. I made this thread for one reason, to talk about the Tachi. And I can't even have my little thread without you c**tS coming in here and fricking it up.

      I really cannot put into words how much I fricking hate what you're doing. I hope you die. I hope you fricking die.

      Because he's autistic. He posts in every melee weapon thread ranting about how the sword was never a primary weapon and ignoring every historical souce that shows otherwise.

  15. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Is this a good deal?

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/Hilborn-and-Hamburger-USN-Sword-/115446508610?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l49286&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      not bad but you are aware this is a dress sword, yes? non-functional

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Yes just don't know the going rate for these. I can't find much about this brand/type

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          There's a million of em, Hilman&Hamburger was an official military insignia maker until they went bottom up in the 2000s. value probably tops out at $300 for vintage mint condition unless it belonged to someone notable

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Ok cool I'll definitely watch it then. Appreciate the help

  16. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    You just spam the weapon art, bro, Corpse Piler is really good. Delay after the second swing so that you hit them with the third through fifth ones as they come out of their panic roll.

  17. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    does someone have that pic of the Eastern European looking soldier/insurgent with a thumbs up saying "Everything will be okay"?

  18. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Why is everyone suddenly calling it "GWOT"? Never heard that phrase before a month or two ago, it was always just "Iraq" or "Afghanistan". Is that a paid shill thing? Nobody talks like that irl.

  19. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Question: If I come to America for 2 weeks for a holiday can I shoot a gunny?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >can I shoot a gunny?

  20. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Does anyone make a .22 suppressor that looks like this one?

  21. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I'm getting an SKS this month. First 7.62x39 rifle

    Tul-Ammo or Wolf and why?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Whichever one's cheaper

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      k thanks

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Whichever one's cheaper

  22. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    What's a good compact CC gun with a metal frame?

    • 2 years ago
      Resident Wumbologist

      Kahr K9
      Sig P238
      Ruger SP101
      S&W 642

      That's some current production models I can think of.

      https://i.imgur.com/LvK9WWT.jpg

      I'm getting an SKS this month. First 7.62x39 rifle

      Tul-Ammo or Wolf and why?

      They are both importers more than manufacturers. Wolf tends to source theirs from Barnaul where Tulammo tends to be Tula ammunition plant. Between the two Barnaul is better. If the price is comparable I'd lean towards Wolf.

      Question: If I come to America for 2 weeks for a holiday can I shoot a gunny?

      There are ranges that rent but you should check their policies beforehand. Often they won't rent to a lone customer.

      Why is everyone suddenly calling it "GWOT"? Never heard that phrase before a month or two ago, it was always just "Iraq" or "Afghanistan". Is that a paid shill thing? Nobody talks like that irl.

      It's an acronym for Global War On Terror which is more or less what the sandbox was part of. GWOT is just a shorthand for that time period/policy/associated conflicts.

      does someone have that pic of the Eastern European looking soldier/insurgent with a thumbs up saying "Everything will be okay"?

      Pic related.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >pic
        thank you very much

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        If I'm going with a US citizen is it better then? Thank you helpful fren

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Ask if your US citizen friend has a gun, at some ranges you need to bring at least one gun to rent any guns.

          • 2 years ago
            Resident Wumbologist

            It depends on the range but typically it's an either or sort of thing.
            Either you come with an extra person, or you have a gun with you to shoot when you arrive.

            It stands to reason that people trying to kill themselves won't be bringing an extra person to witness it, and if they already have a gun they wouldn't need to rent one for the purpose. This is a suicide prevention policy, since suicides are not only tragic but bad for business and messy to clean up. This is not to verify that any of the parties is a citizen or can legally own a gun, since that is not any sort of legal requirement. Ranges can rent guns for shooting within their facilities without running any background check and the citizenship status of the person renting is irrelevant. They can be a foreign tourist. There is no law compelling this policy either, it is just common practice. Therefore some places don't care at all and don't have such a policy while others may have more stringent requirements. That's why you call them in advance or look them up online and read their rules which often specify these things.

  23. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    how much does that stuff cost, the real stuff? Not fake Chinese stuff.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      You can get a quality modern sword for $400-1500 depending on features. You can get a traditional new Japanese-made nihonto for >$10,000 or an entry level antique for $6-10k

  24. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I asked on PrepHole but I think someone here on /k/ probably know better.
    How do I get that musty basement smell out of old clothes? I bough a few jackets and shirts from an online military surplus store and they smell terrible, like they've been laying in a damp, moldy basement for years (which they probably have). I first tried to air them outside but it did nothing, so I washed one of the jackets once and the smell was still there and then I washed it again another time and let it hang outside for 2 more days and the smell still isn't gone. It also made my washing machine smell like shit.

    I don't want to send them back because I probably have to pay for shipping and handling myself so I'd rather just try and clean them

  25. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Anyone own the condor recon? Is it a good first chest rig? If not, what is a good first chest rig?

  26. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Anyone have recommended places to buy used scopes?

  27. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Where's the best place to buy stripper clips for my mosin?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Whatever's cheapest. It's a folded piece of cheap metal, it's impossible to frick up. Buy repros.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >it's impossible to frick up.
        lol nice joke

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Man I've bought em off fricking Amazon and they've worked fine

  28. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    is this 5.56 round safe to fire? it should just fireform out the brass, correct? shouldn't raise the pressure too much I think. it was chambered in a .300 blk barrel just to see what would happen. should I just seat it and yeet it?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      If your gut says don't do it, don't do it.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        it was perfectly fine didn't notice anything different

  29. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Fellas I have a new ruger 30 20rnd mag I'm using with my american ranch. But the mag isn't feeding properly anyone have experience with this?

  30. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Do these grips look good or are they cringe?
    Picture is Esther from the Bible

    • 2 years ago
      Resident Wumbologist

      I thought it was Nambia, but reversed or something. Seems fine to me.

      https://i.imgur.com/LWhOEJx.jpg

      is this 5.56 round safe to fire? it should just fireform out the brass, correct? shouldn't raise the pressure too much I think. it was chambered in a .300 blk barrel just to see what would happen. should I just seat it and yeet it?

      I can't even tell what's wrong with it? The scratches? That's nothing.

      Anyone have recommended places to buy used scopes?

      Ebay? I browse local gun forums/FB gun groups and snap up PA/Holosun/stuff like that pennies on the dollar.

      https://i.imgur.com/lPC3dWp.jpg

      I asked on PrepHole but I think someone here on /k/ probably know better.
      How do I get that musty basement smell out of old clothes? I bough a few jackets and shirts from an online military surplus store and they smell terrible, like they've been laying in a damp, moldy basement for years (which they probably have). I first tried to air them outside but it did nothing, so I washed one of the jackets once and the smell was still there and then I washed it again another time and let it hang outside for 2 more days and the smell still isn't gone. It also made my washing machine smell like shit.

      I don't want to send them back because I probably have to pay for shipping and handling myself so I'd rather just try and clean them

      Take them to get dry cleaned?

      If I'm going with a US citizen is it better then? Thank you helpful fren

      It's really more important to have a second person citizen or not. It is more of a suicide prevention measure.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >Take them to get dry cleaned?
        No dry cleaner near me. I put it in a tub of hot water and white vinegar to soak overnight. Maybe that works

  31. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    i am going to turn my shitty PSA AR pistol into an extremely legal sbr, do i need to replace anything besides the stock and buffer tube?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >extremely legal sbr

    • 2 years ago
      Resident Wumbologist

      No, that should do it.

      https://i.imgur.com/qpgX0tw.jpg

      >extremely legal sbr

      Tax stamps are a thing.

      https://i.imgur.com/QRRdGuI.jpg

      Does MKE make any carbine MP5 clones or are they all pistols?

      They might make them, but 922r makes them much easier to import as pistols than rifles, since they wouldn't meet the sporting purposes clause and would need a requisite amount of US made parts to go around it by getting counted as US made rifles. For handguns it's just a point system to make sure it's not a cheap cast pot metal Saturday night special, which a stockless SMG sans fully automatic capability obviously exceeds.

  32. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Should I go to the range tomorrow?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      If you're all right, don't go

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Any particular reason I shouldn't?

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          the feds are waiting for you there.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Oh fug

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            But I've been a good boy and haven't done anything wrong!

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              that's what you think

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                You got me there, they are pretty frickin autistic

  33. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Does MKE make any carbine MP5 clones or are they all pistols?

  34. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    So my dad recently gave me this M1 helmet from WW2. He got it when he was like 7 back in the 60's and then proceeded to scribble crayon all over the damn thing. I'm trying to get this shit off of it. I've tried soap and warm water but it isnt doing the job. How can I clean this thing up while preserving the original paint?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Try a petroleum based cleaner goo-gone etc.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >Try a petroleum based cleaner goo-gone etc
        don't do that specific thing it will strip the paint right off.
        two things for crayons- gentle heat (hairdryer etc and damp cloth)
        rubbing alcohol, may need several careful applications.
        car shampoo/wax remover is an option but the paint they used back then is not the paint used today, it might do something unexpected

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      I have the same problem, but with a Stormtrooper helmet from the 80's

  35. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Went to a gun show in town today and the prices were all crap. Will prices ever get unfricked or is it only gonna get worse?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      I don't know, but gun shows have always been moronic.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      I recently saw a no-mum arisaka for 1800, no idea what that guy was high on

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        There's a lot more that goes into Japanese surplus rifle pricing than "chrysanthemum Y/N". Contrary to what you would think if you only knew about it from here.

  36. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    there's no gunsmiths in a reasonable area around me and i've inherited a muzzleloading bp carbine.
    the barrel is very pitted and rusted but not beyond repair as far as fixing the surface, i don't know how bad pitting is on a weapon.
    my concern is that the barrel is thin and has ballooned over time. what kind of steps can i as a layman take to try to ascertain if this thing is safe to fire? it is very fricking old.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >the barrel is thin and has ballooned
      It is not safe. do not shoot that firearm with a ball in it.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Start with getting as much surface rust off as you can. Soaking the entire firearm in rem-oil or your preferred gun oil will do. Get a barrel camera (one of those that has a small diameter and can fit down your muzzle) take note of how deep pitting is, and how often you see them. Most likely you're going to find pitting near the ignition point.. a small pit (like maybe a millimeter or two) won't be an issue for a bit. The important part is that you clean the living shit out of the interior and exterior of your carbine PRIOR to inspection. If you're concerned that the barrel has ballooned in points, take a dial caliper ( for what you're going to do with this, it's not the worst if it's an inexpensive one) and get it snug on the exterior of your barrel, starting at the chamber. That's going to be your thickest point. Going further towards the muzzle it should taper evenly... old firearms don't always have tapered barrels, so if it's uniform from chamber to muzzle, you're all set. If you see the number on your caliper jump when you're running it from chamber to muzzle, that (assuming it's not a manufacture stamp or some feature on the exterior) you've found a ballooned point. Especially if it goes back to a smaller reading beyond that point. Keep in mind that a bulged barrel may not always be uniform.. it could be fat on one side, and flat on the other, or it could be a no shit oval on your barrel. Hope this helps, anon

  37. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Is it safe to carry a DA/SA wienered, with one in the chamber if the safety is on?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Technically you can, if you're confident the safety won't get disengaged, but you really shouldn't because that's not what the gun was designed for. It is designed to be carried with the hammer down and one in the chamber. Get a 1911 or something if you want to carry like a boomer.

    • 2 years ago
      Resident Wumbologist

      Depends on the gun. Most DA/SA pistols have dewienerer safeties, where this is impossible because activating the safety dewieners the hammer automatically. Some like the CZ-75, Taurus PT92 and H&K USP V1 have safeties that you can engage without dewienering the hammer. Those you can carry in that condition, which is commonly referred to as being "wienered and locked" and is similar to how a 1911 or BHP would be carried. In doing so you aren't really utilizing the capabilities of a DA/SA pistol since you are basically side-stepping the DA function, but DA trigger pulls tend to suck anyway so I don't really see it as a big loss.

      there's no gunsmiths in a reasonable area around me and i've inherited a muzzleloading bp carbine.
      the barrel is very pitted and rusted but not beyond repair as far as fixing the surface, i don't know how bad pitting is on a weapon.
      my concern is that the barrel is thin and has ballooned over time. what kind of steps can i as a layman take to try to ascertain if this thing is safe to fire? it is very fricking old.

      If there's clearly visible distortion like that, it's fricked.

      Went to a gun show in town today and the prices were all crap. Will prices ever get unfricked or is it only gonna get worse?

      Gun shows always have a bunch of shit, a bunch of overpriced stuff and more than anything a bunch of shit tier stuff that's laughably overpriced. It's been that way for a long time. You have to look closely for the deals instead of losing heart cringing at all the boomer lies and price gouging. If you look close, you'll find deals at any gun show. It just probably won't be a deal on the thing you are looking for.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Safeties are for gays

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        What is that pic? Looks like babby's first 3d model of a handgun

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >doesnt know about the jericho

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous
  38. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >getting my first ever pistol red dot sight (for p365XL)
    >looking up installation vids
    >this other red dot comes with some sort of polymer tape to set on the slide, maybe to keep the battery from having metal-metal contact with the slide idk
    Will my non-plastic red dot need a similar polymer tape to properly function or does it vary from sight to sight?

  39. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    My brother got me a .45 vector crb for my birthday because I've always liked the gun, but I'd like to maybe get a little more handguard going on than even the kriss made handguard offers. Are the "airsoft" handguard and shit likely to work with a pcc?
    I haven't fired it yet as I haven't actually taken possession of the gun myself yet, but I have fired a number of pccs and the recoil doesn't seem like it would be too awfully bad for anything with more strength than a 3d print. But I thought it would be an idea to ask here just in case someone else likes the incredibly niche set up I do.

  40. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I bought a beat to shit C93 and it has a Choate folding stock on it. The stock has this Choate rubber "H" buffer in it.
    What holds the rubber buffer to the stock? Is there a nub on the underside (of the image) that fits into a hole, or is there a screw on the back side, or is it glued on?

  41. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Do those "chest rigs" like ALICE have any real use outside of larping?

    Not to say that's bad, if you're into that...

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      If you need to carry shit on your chest, you use a chest rig. Or a plate carrier with molle if you want protection at the expense of weight.
      If you'd rather be caught unawares so as to not appear "crazy", don't get one.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      zero. literally anybody you see wearing a "chest rig" outside the actual armed services is a kindergarten play pretend idiot and should be avoided like the plague

  42. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Oh wow a fellow melee anon thats rare. Ok so the Tachi was pre-Katana. It's essentially the same thing as a Katana but longer. I highly doubt it was used in a one-handed stance considering the weight and length of the blade. I would first look at the development of Japanese Armor. At the time the Tachi was in use, to my knowledge, the armor of standard infantry was crude. Also at that time Samurai were mostly used as mounted archers and their armor reflected that. Perhaps while it could be used in melee combat, the immediate focus of a dismounted samurai would be to obtain another horse? Standard infantry would most likely be using spears, so perhaps in their hands such a weapon was used to break up pole arm formations?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      CONTINUED: I base the idea that it could have possibly been used to break up pole arm formations off of the Zweihander. Which is a European sword of also significant length that was used by the Landsknechte mercenaries to supposedly do exactly that. Albeit I have to say as a disclaimer, the intended use of that weapon is hotly disputed.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        CONTINUED: If you wish to learn how to use a tachi while dismounted I would reccomend looking at techniques for using both the Zweihander and the Katana and then melding them together.

    • 2 years ago
      KM

      >the immediate focus of a dismounted samurai would be to obtain another horse? Standard infantry would most likely be using spears, so perhaps in their hands such a weapon was used to break up pole arm formations?
      If we look at the "mounted archer" period of the samurai swords tachi were carried by the footsloggers as well, though shorter blades were also popular probably for much the same reason that infantry swords in Europe tend to be smaller than cavalry swords. At the time the standard polearm was the naginata, with the yari (ie the various spear/pike/lance variants) rising to prominence largely as warfare shifted from cavalry focus to infantry focus and the katana started overshadowing the tachi.

      CONTINUED: I base the idea that it could have possibly been used to break up pole arm formations off of the Zweihander. Which is a European sword of also significant length that was used by the Landsknechte mercenaries to supposedly do exactly that. Albeit I have to say as a disclaimer, the intended use of that weapon is hotly disputed.

      That the Gemrna twohanders were specifically intended to swat aside pikes or similar is most likely false. It's something that's been suggested, but as far as I can tell there's no historical sources confirming it, while we do have period sources from down around the Mediterranean suggesting that two handers are great for crowd control in general while saying nothing about said crowd being armed with anything in particular. Sure, someone with a twohander would likely try to displace any pike thrust at him, but that goes for someone armed with a dagger as well, it's just parrying.
      Now if you're putting the tachi and the large German twohanders in the same category of purpose and use then you're most likely not actually thinking of the tachi, but the odachi/nodachi. Those were true twohanders, while tachi are in the 60-80 cm blade length range and intended to work as a one handed cavalry sword. It's close enough to the katana that you rarely need to care about the differences for any technique where you start with the sword already drawn.
      (As for the timing of the Japanese twohanders, that too is mostly contemporary with the naginata, not yari.)

  43. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Anyone own a CZ 97? Are they good? Too big for IWB carry? I just learned they exist, and I happen to be looking for a .45acp handgun.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Nothing is too big for IWB carry

  44. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Is there a general rule of thumb when selecting a grain weight for a specific barrel length?
    I've often heard lighter grain for compacts and subcompacts as they can sometimes fail to get a heavier round fast enough to expand. Is there any truth to this?
    Or is it really down to preference and reliability in a gun?

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