New image of KF-21N has emerged

>KAI's booth at DX Korea 2022 has presented a mock up of KF-21N, the navy version of KF-21.

>South Korea ditched its previous plan to purchase F-35B only to go full CATOBAR this time.
Yes, I'm thinking we're back.

  1. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Where the fuck did all these morons come out from the past week? Almost as if they're spontaneously materialising out of the trees and soil like bacteria

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Koreana are doing god's work here that other countries can't even conceive of. Seething.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's literally just 1 or 2 guys spamming constantly.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >t's literally just 1 or 2 guys spamming constantly.
        > It's literally just 1 or 2 guys spamming constantly.

        The entire world is interested in the latest news from South Korea and yet you are the 1 or 2 guys that are seething with your inferiority complex, just get the fuck out of here and go to /lgbt where you are welcome lol

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >like bacteria
      you answered yourself

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's literally just 1 or 2 guys spamming constantly.

      Nobody deserves to die a painful death as much as this anon

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's literally just 1 or 2 guys spamming constantly.

      I'm honestly not sure. There's been a steady stream of moron propaganda despite the fact that they're not at all relevant to western affairs. I'll pay attention to moron manlets once they start killing each other again.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Rent free seething lol

        SK is easily the most advanced military now and the gap is widening

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Calm down kim park, go suck your moms kimchi

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >t's literally just 1 or 2 guys spamming constantly.
          > It's literally just 1 or 2 guys spamming constantly.

          The entire world is interested in the latest news from South Korea and yet you are the 1 or 2 guys that are seething with your inferiority complex, just get the fuck out of here and go to /lgbt where you are welcome lol

          [...]
          Nobody deserves to die a painful death as much as this anon

          It was a mistake not letting nippon keep both best and worst korea subjugated, we traded comfort women for dudes with napoleon pp complex

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Lol rent free seething with big time small dick energy

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Not really rent free. I just automatically associate koreans with cuckery whenever they are brought up, for obvious reasons

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Lol seething escalates rent free

                The most popular porn these days is black bulls and white pussy, not to mention every high value white woman in the US is with a black thug and western europe is with a nafri or turk or paki or some brown thirdie mystery meat, I almost feel sorry for you guys

                Btw did you watch this porn? I legit felt really bad for that poor little white girl her pussy was so small and tight and was being completely destroyed by the biggest black cocks and you could tell a few minutes into it she changed her mind but it was too late lol

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The bbc connoisseur doesn't deny himself, korean in spirit if not in body

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      A part of the KF-21 threads are by Armatard, they are like his former "China stronk!" threads for him and serve as vectors to shit on western gear. If you ask him how much better the Kf-21 is compared to the russian planes, you either get no or an evasive reply, when he made the thread.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Wtf is it with these seething tards trying to figure out who is who on an anon forum full of incels?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Its not a moron anons english is too good and didnt bitch about conscription and bring stuck in an m48. Prob some Koreaboo or more likelymjust someone trying to start shit

  2. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    what does the N stand for?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      sNeed

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      naega

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Naval. Notice that this is meant to be a replacement for F-35B, it being the VTOL variant that works onboard helicopter carriers which are much less expensive for nations with a smaller budget to maintain.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      All these posters are lying to you.

      It stands for NYYOOOOM

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I

  3. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Who are they partnering with tho?

  4. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The f35 will sell well and this will not

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >thinking the US would sell F-35 to sandmorons.
      It's the sole reason why Rafales are gaining popularity recently.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It has enough shit in it from western MIC that I'm sure someone could stop export to a country if they wanted to.

        The KF-21 is ~65% korean and ~35% foreign.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah, about that percenfage, it's measured by the overall cost divided by sections. For instance, within that 35% 25% is engine, and the rest 10% makes up others.

  5. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Yes, I'm thinking we're back.
    Back to what? morons have never been a power.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They pull their punches when fighting Europeans. They go apeshit when they're committing genocide against each other.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They zero'd out the CVX project on the budget like 2 weeks ago. So this is kinda saying they zero'd it out so they could do an even larger carrier with the just announced KF-21N carrier launched fighter.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Retard, SK government announced today that they are going with a 60,000+ ton medium carrier instead of the light carrier that was cancelled

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Could you finish reading my post?
          That's literally what I said

          > they zero'd it out so they could do an even larger carrier with the just announced KF-21N carrier launched fighter

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            This anon is spot on, SK not only going full board on a 60,000 ton carrier, its coordinated with the KF21N

            Interestingly, the F35 only uses US made weapons and is not compatible with anything else, the KF21 can integrate multiple weapons to include from the UK, Germany and Israel among others, this is a critical component that is going to result in many countries selecting the F35 over the KF21 even the countries with carriers now that the KF21N is confirmed

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              It's not that the F-35 CAN'T integrate it, most countries just don't want to pay for lockheed to develop that capability.

              Isreal certainly did with their F-35's.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            My bad bro

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You been sleeping under a rock the past decade?

  6. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Some detailed close up shots.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous
  7. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Domestic hypersonic AshM on the left.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Just a copy ASM-3 then?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        More like ASMP-A.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Nuke missile without nuke, why bother?
          Also, what kind of experience does sk have with ramjet?

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            > Nuke missile without nuke, why bother?

            He doesn't know

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            SK has a pretty decent ramjet technology and it's only a step away from completing its first hypersonic missile prototype.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Adding to this they also got source codes from MBDA that are needed for the integration of Meteor, which the Indians were denied access to due to corporate espionqge concerns.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      That's Supersonic, not hypersonic

  8. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Seems a tad small for a westerner, but I guess your average Korean will fit right in.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Its designed for fit pilots up to 195cm and 110kg, so this eliminates 80% of westerners that are 175cm and 150kg+ so yes your are correct

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Mr 6cm, is that you?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        https://i.imgur.com/b0UEEQi.jpg

        Da fuk you talking about its bigger than an F35 retard

        Its almost the size of an F22 raptor, and the KF21 nickname is literally baby raptor, this is what everybody in the MIC sector to include LM and KAI call it, the only place where there are comparisons to an F35, F18 or F16 are on a few internet forums with maybe less than 100 active anons

        >itt morons who are so insecure about their height miss a joke about the scale model being small.

  9. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Poland after buying FA-50's wants to be part of the KF-21 program
    actually doing technology transfer to Poland and build them there, or maybe even have some own influence on this jet
    if Poland decides to buy them im pretty sure there will be at least a KF-21PL version

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Poland will buy a couple of k2s and nothing else. I’m sorry you had to find out like this

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Poland will buy a couple of k2s and nothing else.
        They are already in talks about introducing K239, and possibly Redback and K808 too.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          No they aren’t. They requested a quote for the chunmoo to try and drive down the price of the HIMARS they are buying. They much prefer the HIMARS. And Poland hasn’t said a word about buying redbacks

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Schadenfreude

  10. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Shame. It would be better if Koreans at least donate some of their KF-21 squadron to Philippines for free seeing all the valiant sacrifices by Filipino soldiers saving them for Communist back in 1950s.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      post pagpag please

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Shame. It would be better if Koreans at least donate some of their KF-21 squadron to Philippines for free seeing all the valiant sacrifices by Filipino soldiers saving them for Communist back in 1950s.

      According to the PH embassy, 173 Filipinos in general went dead or missing in Korea. Ranked 14th in death count.

      Assuming one whole F-21 is $100M. Divided by 173 would be $578k. I can see the case for donating half an F-21, but that's about it.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Japan was gonna lease some aircraft to the Philippines but ended up just donating them instead, I always wondered what the inside story there was.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Japan was a minor party to the Korean War, so I'm guessing this was just them giving PH free gibs. Japan did occupy PH during WW2 though.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Japan was a minor party to the Korean War, so I'm guessing this was just them giving PH free gibs. Japan did occupy PH during WW2 though.

          Them giving PH the UH-1s helped streamline the radar deal which was extremely favorable to Japan. Part of the deal is that Japan has remote access to all the radar systems sold to PH. The Philippines basically paid Japan to become a remote monitoring station.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        SK donates weapons to the Philippines and many other countries occasionally and unlike some other developed countries the weapons donated are not extra helmets and blankets

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Pohang class corvette
          Didn't one of these get sunk by the norks?

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Yup, but I think it was a false flag to an extent

            Post that sinking, SK with US approval are building nuclear submarines with SLBM capabilities with an implied message that SK either has or is building nuclear missiles

  11. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >CATOBAR
    Are Korea's carriers big enough for that?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The plan announced this week is a 60,000+ ton medium carrier, so yes

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Seems ambitious for a country that has never made an aircraft carrier, let alone a CATOBAR carrier, of any size.

        Unless they've got $10-20B burning hole in their pockets or the US is giving them a bunch of free tech specs for the Koreans to copy, I don't see how they can do it.

  12. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Words cannot describe how little we care about a 4.0001 Gen fighter made by BTS and Samsung

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Schadenfreude

  13. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    As someone from SK this is just posturing from the government to appeal to shipbuilders and the public.

    The CV program got dropped because the price of a CV and it's battlegroup are too high, we don't have the people or money to make it happen as soon as we want or at the scale we want.

    So it was ditched. Instead we're going to parade around a "stop-gap"/bigger CV program that will never start but will satisfy voters/shipbuilders due to it's "Potential". It's a macguffin.

    The best plan would be to make a stretched Dokdo class (With an extra lift and a ramp) and then operate F-35B's. This will need minimal extra R&D costs, the tooling/manufacturing for the Dokdo class can simply be adapted/updated and we can start training seamanship/F-35B's with the current Dokdo's.

    KF-21 is a weird fighter in that it's worse than the F-15 and F-35, and is just another logistical piece to contend with the KF-16. More F-35's would be a much better use of our time, especially if we can get some sort of work-share/refurb deal.

    The KF-21 will not perform well on the export market. It's projected to cost as much as an F-16V and almost as much as an F-35. Yet comes with the same stipulations (American/Lockmart usage guidelines).

    tl:dr
    >CVX was out of scope
    >Nu-CVX is just a macguffin
    >Only reasonable solution is Dokdo/Modified Dokdo class.
    >KF-21 is in marketing overdrive to pay for everything

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Anybody from South Korea knows that politics, big business and the military are intertwined, the textbook definition of a military industrial complex

      What does it mean when SK just announced the largest defense budget ever for 2023 of 57+ billion won? That is obviously to intended to have a world class military system but to also enrich the big businesses who then support the politicians, etc.

      The CV program is inevitable primarily BECAUSE its a mega project not despite it. In South Korea this effectively guarantees its going to happen. Pundits were claiming the same thing before the KF-21 project was approved, costs to much, too difficult easier to buy from the US like thirdies, uncertainties on export market potential, etc. And yet the KF-21 had a design to skies development cycle of under 10 years, lightspeed by MIC combat jet development standards that typically takes 20 to 30+ years. Also, importantly should be noted that the US business ties with SK are a critical component here and why the US and LM supported the KF21. Do you really think these stakeholders are going to walk away from billions of dollars of enrichment because a few nerds on random internet forums have differing opinions?

      The export potential of the KF21 is going to exceed 1000 units, its almost a certainty at this point given there are over 50+ countries that are confirmed to have it on their wish list. Fighter jet systems are operational for 30+ years, the F16 has been around for 50 years and the F4 over 70 years and yet they are still operating and selling. The KF21 will easily surpass the 1000 unit target in its life cycle. Even the FA50 which was designed as a trainer is selling more than any combat fighter other than the F35. What countries determine they need and want is usually different from what the typical MIC aficionado likes.

      tl:dr Both the KF21 carrier version and the medium carrier are effectively 100% certainties at this point.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >tl:dr Both the KF21 carrier version and the medium carrier are effectively 100% certainties at this point.
        can they really find the money for this vanity project?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Medium carrier will probably be $5 to $10 billion, so yes SK can afford this. SK has a defense budget as large as France despite having a lot less population.

          For 2023, here are the defense budgets:

          SK: 57 trillion won = $41 billion = $792 per capita
          France: 44 billion euro = $43 billion = $646 per capita

          This is despite the USD crushing the euro and won, the yen is getting destroyed on epic levels.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >The export potential of the KF21 is going to exceed 1000 units
        No the fuck it doesn't. Who the fuck is going to buy the KF-21 in such large numbers? Everyone that can afford a large number of jets is buying American.

        There aren't enough small countries with an air force to even THINK about 1000+ export sales, at best you're probably looking at 300-500 and that's generous.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          SK already order 120, this will eventually get to ~300

          European nations will acquire at least 250
          Middle eastern/north african nations will acquire at least 250
          SEA will acquire at least 100
          Latin America will acquire at least 50
          Australia, NZ, Canada will acquire at least 50

          This is an extremely conservative assessment by research analyst that cover KAI stock

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >European nations will acquire at least 250
            Who? Everyone already is buying American or European.
            >Middle eastern/north african nations will acquire at least 250
            Who? Anyone with big pockets is buying American.
            >SEA will acquire at least 100
            Who? Most can't afford it.
            >Latin America will acquire at least 50
            I could maybe see this.
            >Australia, NZ, Canada will acquire at least 50
            Lol, why would Australia and Canada when they're already both committed to F-35s and are deeply ingrained in the American MIC already?

            there are currently no KF-21 orders outside of SK and Indonesia. The Philippines are looking at it, but they realistically can't really afford it and would rely on SK gibs to buy them.

            Again, 300-500 at best.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Countries that are likely to buy the KF21

              Europe: Poland, Estonia, Norway, Finland, Czech, Slovakia, Hungary, Croatia, Slovenia, Portugal, Greece, Romania, Bulgaria, Latvia, Ukraine, Lithuania, Serbia, Kosovo, Macedonia, Turkey

              Middle east/north africa: UAE, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Qatar, Bahrain, Oman, Egypt, Iraq

              SEA: Philippines, Malaysia, Indonesia, Vietnam, Thailand, Singapore

              Latin America: Argentina, Peru, Chile, Brazil, Uruguay

              Australia is almost guaranteed to buy KF21s, US/Australia/SK is extremely tight in the MIC space, Canada is a maybe because they really dgaf at all about defense since the US is their neighbor so they know the US, NZ needs something and will end up getting the KF21

              Its going to be 1000 before 2040, and potentially 2000+ before the KF21 is no longer manufactured which will probably be around 2070 to 2080

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Based on what? Your "expert" analysis? You're talking out of your ass, half of those countries would rather buy US planes for the same or similar money as the KF-21 is likely to cost. The other half are too poor to even afford the KF-21.

                You're just outing yourself as a delusional shill to be honest, your claims are so far-fetched I doubt even the KAI marketing department would believe this list.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Tell yourself whatever you want and you may eventually be convinced of it, I really don't give a fuck

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You're naming DOZENS of countries with ZERO sources to back it up, why the fuck should anyone believe you?

                Especially when you make outlandish claims about Canada, Australia, Saudi Arabia, UAE, etc.

                These are all countries entrenched in the US MIC that there isn't a snowballs chance in hell they touch the KF-21 and pretending they even MIGHT is just dumb as fuck.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >NZ
            They haven't had an attack aircraft in over 20 years, why would they suddenly buy from the koreans?

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              This is precisely why they are going to buy the KF21

              A lot of /k tards have no idea what is going on in the Pacific region even though 80%+ of any future global war will be concentrated there, China already effectively owns the Solomon Islands and are making strides to expand throughout the south Pacific, NZ is an easy target with prime real estate for a colony that if fortified can be well defended/secured, China has NZ as a target and NZ needs to send signals that they have at least a semblance of a defense

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I think you are retarded
            Which countries in Europe are going to buy the fucking KF-21? Half of them are buying the F-35, France has the Rafale, and Sweden has the Gripen which is also used by the Czechs and Hungarians.
            Canada is on it's way to buy the F-35, Australia has already bought them, and New Zealand is New Zealand and thinks a functioning army is for losers

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Czechs and Hungarians are VERY dissatisfied with the gripen and they are neighbors with Poland and beyond watching what Poland is doing are actively engaged in planning for a similar build up, I'm giving you tards too much info lol

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Idiots that keep comparing the KF21 to the F35 are fooling themselves into their own agenda and lies

              The KF21 is called a baby raptor, the F35 and the KF21 are complementary not competing products, nobody is getting the F22 in the foreseeable future so you can figure out the rest

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The FA-50 is a mini F-16
                The KF-21 is a stealthy F-16, with an internal weapons bay it's basically an F-16 turned 5th gen.

                It's not an F-22 and you're huffing copium if you think it is.

  14. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why is it so small? A jet for ants?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Da fuk you talking about its bigger than an F35 retard

      Its almost the size of an F22 raptor, and the KF21 nickname is literally baby raptor, this is what everybody in the MIC sector to include LM and KAI call it, the only place where there are comparisons to an F35, F18 or F16 are on a few internet forums with maybe less than 100 active anons

  15. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What kind of retard believes that it's that easy to turn a jet fighter into a cat-capable fighter?
    If that specific part was not Taken into account at the Inception of the plane, it's ludicrous to try to add it on later

  16. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Korea literally cut funding for the aircraft carrier from its defense budget. Read a fucking book.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      How fucking stupid are you? lol

      It was all a set up by the Korean MIC, they cut funding for the LIGHT aircraft carrier because 20,000 ton light carrier like Japan has does nothing + they bought 20 more F35As instead of F35Cs since the F35Cs are a watered down version of the F35As.

      So last week KAI announced the KF21 cv version and this week the government announced plans to develop a 60,000+ ton MEDIUM carrier

      Get it now retard?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        They were never planning on F-35C since you can't use an F-35C on a small 20,000-ton light carrier.

        The plan was to run F-35Bs like japan does on their light carriers (converted helicopter destroyers).

  17. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Fuck off moron

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