>under $1k
Meaning MSRP will be $999, but still seems like a good deal as long as it being compatible with chokes also means it will work with the shotgun suppressors that are out there.
1099 apparently lmao, street value will hopefully get down to around 899 though
“Battle proven”
I’m sure my mossberg isn’t going to get scared and fail to fire just because some gay army hasn’t shot some gay pajeet yet.
Well, if its a 940, then thats entirely possible on the second round without mods. Condensations been known to nothing personnel them pretty bad in the past. If its a 500 series then they are combat proven and rather thoroughly.
>3 gun >hunting
Are very different things then what the m4 was built for. The M4 shotgun was the only shotgun to pass military trials for the US.
Yes for civilian use the m2 or other inertia based shotguns are much more practical and cheap. But for a combat shotgun? The m4 is unmatched.
Honest question, what makes the M4s operating system so objectively superior to the1301 or a300? is it a likely meaningful difference for civilian defensive or LE patrol/duty use?
Its not the operating system, its the build. The 1301 is built to be a light comp gun. The M4 is built to withstand hard use.
So there's literally no reason except that its built thicker so if you want to use it as a bludgeon it might survive that better? sounds like youre just emotionally invested in the design, which is cool, but no need to go around acting like theres some massive practical difference
Unless you're literally fighting in combat, and you need the shotgun to survive across multiple moronic 18 year olds, there is no reason for the benelli.
And even then the beretta may survive that abuse as well, there's just not as much evidence for itm
Or if you need to dive for cover and it gets smashed on the ground.
If you're shooting people and therefore using buckshot or slugs some more weight is also good for taming recoil.
Unless you're literally fighting in combat, and you need the shotgun to survive across multiple moronic 18 year olds, there is no reason for the benelli.
And even then the beretta may survive that abuse as well, there's just not as much evidence for itm
There's no free lunch, you fundamentally can't make something lighter with the same materials without compromising durability.
if a gun can hold up to hard waterfowl hunt use where its getting splashed, banged up against the boat, and splashed again with mud I'm going to say it'll hold up fine to combat use regardless if its a a400 or benelli m4. its all the same company anyway
Do you even know how the gas systems work, if you did you wouldnt be asking this fricking stupid question. Shut up, frick you, go spoonfeed yourself dumbass.
How does Shotgun suppression work? What stops the baffles from getting obliterated by anything other than a slug? Are the interiors different? Is it ooze/gel?
It's a good feeling. But I'm still glad to see inexpensive options that have the potential for being high quality so people who don't want to spend as much can get a quality semi shotgun.
Don't even worry about it. First of all. Why would a cop even check? If the cop does check, how would they know that other anon is telling the truth? Does he have a receipt? Any trace back to the store you bought it from?
It's a good feeling. But I'm still glad to see inexpensive options that have the potential for being high quality so people who don't want to spend as much can get a quality semi shotgun.
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>2023 >still not using an m4 which has been battle proven for over two decades
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M4 is a fat pig and unreliable with anything less than 00 or being modified.
It’s also a slow action that can easily be outpaced by better shooters and pistol grip shotguns have always been pure mall ninja.
There is a reason nobody (who places) in 3 gun or actually hunt uses one.
Its’s for LARPerator fantasies chewing through buckshot, and thats about it.
Mine runs fine with light target load birdshot.
Also its a fricking combat shotgun of course its not optimized for hunting or shooting clays. It's optimized for not breaking when its put through shit and for killing people.
Mine runs fine with light target load birdshot.
Also its a fricking combat shotgun of course its not optimized for hunting or shooting clays. It's optimized for not breaking when its put through shit and for killing people.
>3 gun >hunting
Are very different things then what the m4 was built for. The M4 shotgun was the only shotgun to pass military trials for the US.
Yes for civilian use the m2 or other inertia based shotguns are much more practical and cheap. But for a combat shotgun? The m4 is unmatched.
>fudd: the post
>It’s not unreliable! >It’s just meant for buckshot and killing lots of bad guys! >It’s a c-c-combat shotgun!
LARPerators justifying their one dimensional purchase for blasting used TVs.
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M4 is a fat pig and unreliable with anything less than 00 or being modified.
It’s also a slow action that can easily be outpaced by better shooters and pistol grip shotguns have always been pure mall ninja.
There is a reason nobody (who places) in 3 gun or actually hunt uses one.
Its’s for LARPerator fantasies chewing through buckshot, and thats about it.
cringe nogun
I shoot skeet with it, it cycles target loads fine.
It's a good feeling. But I'm still glad to see inexpensive options that have the potential for being high quality so people who don't want to spend as much can get a quality semi shotgun.
https://i.imgur.com/uc4ON2r.jpg
>tfw you already own the best semi auto shotgun money can buy, an M4, and don't need to worry about anything else shotgun related
literally what's the difference? if some frick breaks in and i have one o fmy citoris they are now defense guns. if I shoot a bird with my benelli m3 it is now a hunting gun
I figure: why would anybody want an m4 when you can have the same thing, plus the ability to pump? But I’ve never shot the m3 or the m4 so I wouldn’t know.
M3 is more complicated and inertia. M4 is gas operated and based. Again. The M4 is the only semiautomatic shotgun used by the US Military, the only one to pass its tests.
>Not a Side-by-side with the same value as the Silver Pigeon >It's just another tacticool semiauto that does the same thing all the other tacticool semiautos do
Who gives a shit?
I have had one bad gun - a remington 1911 but I bought it when remingtong sucked. Everything else went bang when I bought it. Maybe you are just unlucky bruh
Seems ok but I'd be leery of anything designed and built in the last few years. Also frick TFB, a nogunz Canadian owned illuminati company. A sincere good to luck to the guinea pigs tho.
the a300 is not a new design, this is literally just a magtube extension, baked in mod choke, and ring sight. Its as new a design as a glock with a factory optics cut and threaded barrel vs a bog standard g17
>under $1k
Meaning MSRP will be $999, but still seems like a good deal as long as it being compatible with chokes also means it will work with the shotgun suppressors that are out there.
1099 apparently lmao, street value will hopefully get down to around 899 though
Well, if its a 940, then thats entirely possible on the second round without mods. Condensations been known to nothing personnel them pretty bad in the past. If its a 500 series then they are combat proven and rather thoroughly.
Honest question, what makes the M4s operating system so objectively superior to the1301 or a300? is it a likely meaningful difference for civilian defensive or LE patrol/duty use?
One could argue its gas system has been in hard use longer, therfore more proven.
But most LE don't use semiauto shotguns anyways.
So there's literally no reason except that its built thicker so if you want to use it as a bludgeon it might survive that better? sounds like youre just emotionally invested in the design, which is cool, but no need to go around acting like theres some massive practical difference
Unless you're literally fighting in combat, and you need the shotgun to survive across multiple moronic 18 year olds, there is no reason for the benelli.
And even then the beretta may survive that abuse as well, there's just not as much evidence for itm
Or if you need to dive for cover and it gets smashed on the ground.
If you're shooting people and therefore using buckshot or slugs some more weight is also good for taming recoil.
There's no free lunch, you fundamentally can't make something lighter with the same materials without compromising durability.
if a gun can hold up to hard waterfowl hunt use where its getting splashed, banged up against the boat, and splashed again with mud I'm going to say it'll hold up fine to combat use regardless if its a a400 or benelli m4. its all the same company anyway
Its not the operating system, its the build. The 1301 is built to be a light comp gun. The M4 is built to withstand hard use.
Do you even know how the gas systems work, if you did you wouldnt be asking this fricking stupid question. Shut up, frick you, go spoonfeed yourself dumbass.
How does Shotgun suppression work? What stops the baffles from getting obliterated by anything other than a slug? Are the interiors different? Is it ooze/gel?
silencerco used a bunch of rods to keep the shot from spreading inside the suppressor
Birdshot looks like it could get thru that. Strict no-birb or what?
The wad can't open up so nothing gets out
Why do shotgun suppressors have such a low durability then?
Anon the shot is still a tight clump shotguns are not like vidya
Neat, thanks. Shotguns with suppressors look cool but I've never seen any irl
I hope its not made in the USA, cause then if something wrong with it you're fricked because Beretta USA has non-existant customer service.
But it is made in the USA.
Also, I'm going to wait and buy a 1301 tactical instead of the A300 cuz of the blink gas system.
it is made in the USA
I'm from Europe and my 1301 tac says made in Italy, but the barrel says Beretta USA. Do they import the barrel?
>comes in tiger stripe
I want 2
>shotgun suppressors
2012 called, grandpa.
>tfw you already own the best semi auto shotgun money can buy, an M4, and don't need to worry about anything else shotgun related
It's a good feeling. But I'm still glad to see inexpensive options that have the potential for being high quality so people who don't want to spend as much can get a quality semi shotgun.
nice serial number bro gonna report that shit stolen can't wait for that when you get checked
>gonna report that shit stolen
Double dog dare you.
bruh dont be a homosexual only salty no guns do that shit.
Where do you think we are?
Don't even worry about it. First of all. Why would a cop even check? If the cop does check, how would they know that other anon is telling the truth? Does he have a receipt? Any trace back to the store you bought it from?
You made the same choice as me. 2 rubber shells first, then 00 if the perp is stupid enough to not GTFO.
M4 is a fat pig and unreliable with anything less than 00 or being modified.
It’s also a slow action that can easily be outpaced by better shooters and pistol grip shotguns have always been pure mall ninja.
There is a reason nobody (who places) in 3 gun or actually hunt uses one.
Its’s for LARPerator fantasies chewing through buckshot, and thats about it.
Mine runs fine with light target load birdshot.
Also its a fricking combat shotgun of course its not optimized for hunting or shooting clays. It's optimized for not breaking when its put through shit and for killing people.
Which is why I think the M2 is the better all-rounder
Rational man.
>It’s not unreliable!
>It’s just meant for buckshot and killing lots of bad guys!
>It’s a c-c-combat shotgun!
LARPerators justifying their one dimensional purchase for blasting used TVs.
The best shotgun designed for magdumping into trash is the Vepr 12 with one of those lulzy 25rd drums anyway.
It literally is a combat shotgun.
Literally was designed for the USMC. It is 100% a combat shotgun and nothing else.
>3 gun
>hunting
Are very different things then what the m4 was built for. The M4 shotgun was the only shotgun to pass military trials for the US.
Yes for civilian use the m2 or other inertia based shotguns are much more practical and cheap. But for a combat shotgun? The m4 is unmatched.
>fudd: the post
>t. doesn't own any guns by choice
>M4 is a fat pig and unreliable with anything less than 00 or being modified
That's the turkshit knockoffs. Way to go to expose yourself as a poorgay
Some use the inertia system perfectly fine. Stoeger M3000 and M3500, but Stoeger is owned by Beretta too.
Idiot, argo system is reliable even with bulk birdshot. Youre just an ignorant lying sour grapes ass pussy lol.
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cringe nogun
I shoot skeet with it, it cycles target loads fine.
>2023
>still not using an m4 which has been battle proven for over two decades
Lotta based gentlemen in this thread.
How's the 1720? I've got the 1740, but might need a smaller case.
not buying your outdated pigfat trash
>pigfat
Yeah, if you want your gun to not be fragile you can't shave every last ounce off.
“Battle proven”
I’m sure my mossberg isn’t going to get scared and fail to fire just because some gay army hasn’t shot some gay pajeet yet.
Isnt the 590A1 used by the army?
500 also
Dude I went to cop school with said he carried a pistol grip 500 in iraq, for whatever that is worth
Of course it's not going to
It's because it's already battle proven, and has no reason to be scared.
590A1s have been issued and used more in combat than the benelli M4
I don’t buy into the defensive shotgun meme. If it isn’t a hunting shotgun, I’m not interested.
>t.
literally what's the difference? if some frick breaks in and i have one o fmy citoris they are now defense guns. if I shoot a bird with my benelli m3 it is now a hunting gun
What do you think of your m3?
I figure: why would anybody want an m4 when you can have the same thing, plus the ability to pump? But I’ve never shot the m3 or the m4 so I wouldn’t know.
>imagine wanting to have the ability to jerk off your gun
homosexual.
M3 is more complicated and inertia. M4 is gas operated and based. Again. The M4 is the only semiautomatic shotgun used by the US Military, the only one to pass its tests.
It was literally the only shotgun even in the trials.
I am very interested in this, I'll wait on reviews though, I can afford a 1301 if the a300, has a bad gas system.
>Not a Side-by-side with the same value as the Silver Pigeon
>It's just another tacticool semiauto that does the same thing all the other tacticool semiautos do
Who gives a shit?
M4 is overpriced as frick, but it's still a good shotgun.
The 1301 looks okay
So far, this has been the best launch from SHOT this year. It is somewhat less great because of the 80BOX fail
I e decided on a 1301 as my first semi auto but this looks like a great option. Bonus for coming ready to go out of the box
>Bonus for coming ready to go out of the box
what isnt ready right out the box?
Everything else. Specially 1911s
maybe you are just unlucky
I concede I´m mistaken. My one and only used Glock is also gtg
I have had one bad gun - a remington 1911 but I bought it when remingtong sucked. Everything else went bang when I bought it. Maybe you are just unlucky bruh
benelli? you mean like the company that makes those shitty chinese honda grom knockoffs?
>just bought a 1301
>with a shit ton of upgrades
Frick my life.
The a300 is the poorgay version
>made in usa
>no blink system
no.
hit a few clays with the 1301
That magpul grip looks ugly as sin.
>Under 1k
>MSRP of $1099 not including shipping, tax, and tip
Seems ok but I'd be leery of anything designed and built in the last few years. Also frick TFB, a nogunz Canadian owned illuminati company. A sincere good to luck to the guinea pigs tho.
the a300 is not a new design, this is literally just a magtube extension, baked in mod choke, and ring sight. Its as new a design as a glock with a factory optics cut and threaded barrel vs a bog standard g17