What is PrepHole's definition and implementation/capabilities of light infantry and heavy infantry in the context of modern warfare?
Light And Heavy Infantry
What is PrepHole's definition and implementation/capabilities of light infantry and heavy infantry in the context of modern warfare?
Doesn’t matter because patriot intercepted a hypersonic missile in combat and no other BMD system has
Do people unironically have this as a take?
It’s what happened so yes it’s a widely held piece of knowledge
sorry we didn't know it was hypersonic.
I thought that turned out to be inaccurate?
It didn't. You fell for propaganda.
light -> normal infantry
heavy -> powered armor
obviously
light -> RSI not covered by VA
heavy -> RSI not covered by VA
Light infantry:
>highly mobile and relies mainly on stealth and surprise
>primarily attacks via infiltration, raids, and hasty attacks
>primarily defends via ambushes and counterattacks
>actually light and fast with excellent fieldcraft
>occupies the close terrain while still retaining the ability to fight in open terrain if need be
>mostly expeditionary and self sustaining by living off the land
Heavy infantry:
>mechanized or motorized
>heavy reliance on firepower and supporting fires
>mainly used for occupying open terrain and for rapid exploitation and breaching operations
>infantry act more as scouts at best and local security for the armored vehicles that clear rough terrain when needed
>bypass bypass bypass
>massive logistics train being fed via corps/army+ supply dumps
So close anon! Scratch the infantry as scouts part for HI and this will be the first accurate take I've seen on PrepHole about this.
Light infanty walks around. The others don't.
>context of modern warfare
Colored duct tape helmets and drone grenades.
These
Light infantry is the heaviest infantry
So light infantry is just motorized infantry, right? Trucks/quads/bikes/buggies/etc.
Light infantry are not literally hoofing it on foot everywhere in a battlefield, right?
Why would the light (motorized) infantry be the heaviest? The vehicles (or robotic mules in some cases) are the ones carrying the infantry and their shit around.
Actual light infantry are heavily decentralized self sustaining units that are effectively a military's guerrilla force. This concept has been butchered though because it's easier to sink money in weapons programs and contracts than into fieldcraft training for the riflemen.
Motorized in the modern context generally refers to infantry mounted in APCs that are usually wheeled, e.g. the Stryker and BTR-80s
>Hasn't won any wars
The SAS played a major role in allies victories in Africa and precusors to the green berets great helped the war effort in Europe by training partisans . While I do think infantry obviously wins war , theres no doubt special forces makes their job easier .
in US future divisional arrangement, the heavy division will be composed of CABTs and SBCTs while light divisions are mostly IBCTs
so a heavy division has more tanks, all their infantry mounted inside IFVs, and supported with troops in strykers
this means that they have incredible punch from a relatively small force with a high degree of tactical mobility
a light division is composed of infantry brigades with a small number of tanks in support
compared to the heavy division, all of the troops ride in trucks from the baggage train or in light wheeled vehicles
troops have much more limited tactical mobility because they have to demount far from AO and this means they cant carry nearly as much firepower with them
so in operational terms, heavy divisions are used in maneuver while the light divisions are used for shaping the battlefield
Light infantry: Euro (healthy weight but lacks armament)
Heavy infantry: American (Significantly overweight but carries a multitude of assigned and private weapons)
light infantry no vehicles
heavy infantry has vehicles
This seems like a really stupid way at making the difference between light and heavy infantry being simply that one has vehicles to ride in and the other does not as if that is the only difference.
What other difference is there?
Vehicle-delivered infantry arrive light on their feet ready to fight with heavy firepower, hence 'heavy.'
Light infantry stagger around under a rucksack full of water and food before running low on ammo halfway into their first fight.
>This seems like a really stupid way at making the difference between light and heavy infantry being simply that one has vehicles to ride in and the other does not as if that is the only difference.
But it's true. In the US at least light infantry only has light wheeled trucks like Humvees and now JLTVs. Our "medium" infantry uses Strykers, and our heavy/mechanized infantry uses Bradley's and operates in conjunction with Abrams tanks.
You could go more in depth, but the bottom line is that light infantry doesn't have armored fighting vehicles of any kind. Thus light infantry is the heaviest because they have to carry their rucks everywhere when other units could use a Bradley or Stryker.
The difference between having vehicles and not completely changes your fighting ability and style. If you try sending mechanized infantry into the mountains or the jungle or need to do an amphibious raid with them they're going be very vulnerable because they're tied to the limited amount of places their vehicles can go, so we have light infantry to work without significant vehicle support while retaining as much capability as possible
Let's hear your alternative then.
Because having vehicles or not and all that it implies is the most succinct way of describing it, especially in in the context of modern warfare
motorized infantry is just light infantry.
heavy infantry don't exist, outside maybe those memers that Russia would show off with the ballistic helmets.
Mechanized infantry is the next best thing until we get full body plate armor made from wonder-material.
Mechanized is heavy infantry, you silly goose. And motorized is not the same as light.
>Light Infantry
Stragetically - highly mobile (can get to theater quickly)
Operationally - low to medium mobility (moves slow on foot, but can be fast on wheels)
Tactically - low mobility (moves slow on foot and under fire
>Medium infantry
Stragetically - low to medium mobility (slow to get to theater, but still faster than tanks and mechanized)
Operationally - highly mobile (can get to the fight quickly on good terrain, but limited on poor terrain)
Tactically - medium to high mobility (can move under fire, but still has to beware of enemy vehicles and heavy ordinance)
>Mechanized/Heavy Infantry
Stragetically - very low mobility (takes significant time and resources to move in theater)
Operationally - highly mobile ( can get to the fight very quickly in most terrain that isn't mountainous)
Tactically - highly mobile (can move under fire and respond to armor threats with own vehicle firepower or intergrated armor support.)
>Mechanized is heavy infantry, you silly goose.
I said "next best thing", but meant "the modern equivalent".
>And motorized is not the same as light.
and the same again here, it's rare to not have infantry that has access to some motor assets but they don't offer much tactical benefit.
and this is mainly talking about the US. Agree with your post in general though
Technically though, mechanized infantry does have the heaviest armor. On its vehicles.
Imbecile, dirtbikes sand rails and technicals are totally light infantry. Mechanized ie: apcs tanks strikers etc are heavy. You dont know shit about fuck.
>light infantry
Skirmishers, cannot seize or hold ground indefinetely, small logistical foortprint.
>heavy infantry
Line troops, can seize and hold ground indefinetly, medium logistical footprint.
light infantryman here
we get wheeled to the forward base and take it by foot from there
parachute insertion capability is there but unlikely
job is to disrupt the enemies supply lines and create nusance in their backlines (sabotage/skirmish for small but important bridges, airfields etc)
Mechanized infantry > All
That's motorised infantry though
Motorized means riding in the backs of trucks. IFVs and APCs are mechanized
>Mechanized infantry > All
>*laughs in opium*
Light infantry is stragegically mobile, heavy infantry is generally just mechanized infantry and strategically immobile. So light infantry might ride in helicopter, humvees, or generally light transports. Heavy infantry ride in shit like BMPs and M2s well armed and armoured with more firepower integrated at the squad and platoon level by virtue of their heavier transports being better armed.
There's infantry and there's MARINES
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Not even delties have anything on the Marine killing machines
A Marine can carry TWICE the equipment any other infrantry man could, which doesn't matter ANYWAY, as a Marine could kill ANYONE with His bare hands.
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Light infantry fights insurgencies. Disposable african mercs with G3 and M-79.
Heavy infantry fights peer wars. Army veterans in EOD and Exo with M3M and STK40.
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>What is PrepHole's definition and implementation/capabilities of light infantry and heavy infantry in the context of modern warfare?
There are really three types of infantry:
>light infantry - designed to operate without the support of vehicles, cheap or specialized (mountain, air assault, etc.), low logistics load.
>mechanized - heavy, designed to operate with vehicles supporting operations which usually means tanks + tracked APCs/IFVs, very expensive but brings a massive amount of firepower to the battle, high logistics load.
>motorized - medium, an in between mix between mechanized and light infantry with the concept originally coming from the USSR where the infantry are supported with wheeled vehicles (but can operate without them if needed). Good for expeditionary armies (see the Stryker Brigade concept) or for countries that have large armies but cannot afford to make all their infantry mechanized (which is why the USSR created the concept by putting their light infantry into BTRs).
What it comes down to, is that mechanized infantry will absolutely vaporize anything and everything that stands in it's path but is vulnerable incases where the environment restricts vehicle movement (mountains, jungles, etc.) which is where light infantry can properly counter them. Contrary to popular belief, urban environments are not a restriction to mechanized infantry if there is no qualms with levelling the city (see Russia in Chechnya).
Here are some videos talking about the topic in-depth:
Also checkout Battle Order as well.
>light
Most countries
>heavy
American
Never got why this is light infantry, like that shit looks pretty heavy to me.
The heavier you are the longer you can sustain yourself behind enemy lines or in an overextended position. The flip side to that is that you're more vulnerable to being encircled, flanked, spotted and taken out- regardless of how many soldiers were inserted with you. So, in theory, air assault troops should probably be loaded down pretty heavy.
However it doesn't make too much sense. How long do soldiers really last on a battlefield without vehicle and heavy weapons support? If armored vehicles or infantry fighting vehicles aren't sent alongside your forces then what's the point in loading a soldier up like this? If they are sent, then they can carry the gear, if they aren't, will any of them survive long enough to use the damn extra supplies? Okay so maybe that's not the scenario, maybe the scenario is that you're doing counter insurgency and you have to collect intelligence on enemy movements, location and organization. Well you're not going to blend in with a massive fucking rucksack loaded onto your back.
It definitely doesn't make sense to be this over encumbered when you're fighting house to house. You're always going to have to have a spot where you leave the rest of your supplies and gear while you go and fight.
It doesn't make sense in a trench, you've got your dugout or bunker to leave your supplies and gear in.
Doesn't really make sense for large mechanized offensives either because, yet again there are APC's, Technicals, IFV's to leave your ruck sack in that can transport your goodies. Unless you must conduct an offensive while being dangerously short on vehicle transport- the "heavy" infantry concept doesn't make any sense and is not practical at all.
At least until pic related gets invented..
Light infantry means you know how to TAB like a real man, that's all it is
Nothing about their equipment load is light
Light infantry can operate 200+ meters away from transport
Heavy infantry cannot
>light infantry
Loaded up on equipment and gear so that they can operate more independently from vehicles... yet are expected to fight in terrain which is unfavorable to mechanized forces. Which would still be unfavorable to fight in for regular infantry if they are weighed down by a ton of shit.
How the hell does that make any sense? Vietcong, WW2 Partisans, ISIS, Taliban, etc fought in environments that were not conducive to heavy or even light vehicles, yet were not weighed down the way we weigh down "light" infantry.
Because the expeditionary occupying force needs to take their shit with them as a part of the massive logistical effort?
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Why is Terry gonna lug all that shit if he goes back to his mud hut every night?
>most/all historical/modern guerilla fighters were fighting directly in their hometowns and home cities
What evidence of this is there, and why would you assume it so confidently? I'm sure there were plenty of situations where Vietcong, Taliban or ISIS moved in great numbers to places far from their original cities in order to conduct resistance operations.
Because even if they arent fighting in the direct vicinity of their own hometown, theyre fighting in the vicinity of someone elses. If there is enough popular support they can have caches and supplies hidden all over the place. They dont have to bring food and munitions from home, because they can just pick it up at someone elses.
opioid is a synthetic opiate, what the fuck is an opioid farm?
I think he meant poppy farm
Because his mud hut is hundreds of miles away across mountain ranges in Pakistan
Light Infantry may be "underequipped" for certain scenarios.
Heavy Infantry may develop back & knee problems.
Heavy Infantry = American
Light Infantry = all other countries
>What is PrepHole's definition and implementation/capabilities of light infantry and heavy infantry in the context of modern warfare?
Light infantry makes cool in war edits