Is this what the Germans felt during WW2 on the Eastern Front?
What happens to morale when your opponent has an endless supply of weapons?
Is this what the Germans felt during WW2 on the Eastern Front?
Is this what the Germans felt during WW2 on the Eastern Front?
What happens to morale when your opponent has an endless supply of weapons?
I don't know, seems like the DOD is just giving out spare change for charity
>damaged and abandoned
Do we have have news on whether they could be recovered and repaired?
Some will be damaged beyond economical repair, but the fact that 0 were catastrophically destroyed means there's a good chance of recovery.
And even those damage beyond repair can still be scavenged for parts to save others because they aren't burned out husks.
From what I saw, at least three of the sixteen vehicles are complete wrecks and six look significantly damaged. Who knows what has happened since then too. Ukraine was pretty good about destroying disabled Russian vehicles they couldn't capture. Russia would surely have posted additional footage if they had been able to do the same. My guess is at that Ukraine will get at least 6-11 back into service if they can recover them.
As far as OP is concerned, we know for a fact it is demoralizing, because Russian military bloggers, civilians, pundits, commentators, etc.. have all commented on the quality and quantity of materiel, the battlefield effects, and so forth. You don't complain that much if it doesn't bother you. Their only cope seems to be the sincerely held belief that the west will eventually abandon Ukraine. The biggest effect I think we'll see is on civilian morale as Russians slowly lose parity and losses mount. That's is when you'll see the "five stages of grief."
I don't know what effect it will have on frontline morale since it is already rock bottom. They're already using blocking detachments. It would be interesting to see if order would breakdown should the blocking detachments lose control of the situation. I expect a lot of surrenders and abandonment of posts if units gets isolated.
who gives a shit, lets just give them new ones.
I wanna see dead vatBlack folk
Some of them can almost certainly be cannibalized for spare parts to help ease the logistical burden on other units at least.
Man... Americans are incredibly generous with their superior gear.
Americans are swell.
russians are a waste of energy
Unironically costs less than scrapping them.
Europoors are all like dude we cannot spare 10 of 300 tanks.
America's all like good thing we built 6000 and we have to save the fricking Europoors again.
Estonia gave all of their SPGs and Sweden gave 10% of their entire IFV fleet, they're just tiny countries.
No, Europe has this obsession with building bespoke weapons like it's an LV bag, when history has proven again and again that you need a certain quantity for attrition. Obviously, not pieces of shit like the Russians doe because they are not effective, but more the American way. Moderately good stuff, but build tons.
How to say you have no clue about how military industry works without saying it.
The Germans had better tanks than the Russians and Allies. Did they win?
Go ahead, explain.
make me
I mean, you're not wrong. But you know that dating advice that starts out with "begin by being unusually attractive"? Or the guide to making a million dollars whose first step is "(1.) inherit at least two million dollars"?
Well, if you want a U.S.-grade military industrial complex, it kind of helps to start out with the GDP of the United States. Just sayin'
Estonia asked EU to reimburse them the cost of a new SPG while giving away rusty soviet ones
Every eastern euro country gets gibbs back from NATO to strengthen their military back. Seems pretty good deal for everyone. Ukraine gets equipment they can use right away and NATOs eastern block will be rebuilt with newer equipment. Think Estonia already ordered HIMARS and K9s with that reimbursment.
I'm biased, cause I'm Lithuanian and we do the same thing, but I literally don't see a problem with this.
Ukrainians get equipment to kill Russians with and we get nre and better shit. Literally everyone wins
>SPGs
i dont think D30 and FH70 go under self propelled
and estonia together with finland bought out most of dutch tracked vehicles
Where are the tanks
it's the old in-game purchase trick
Where are the Abrams?
leopards are there, can't say the same for the abrams
The US spends over a trillion dollars a year on welfare. Frankly I can think of many things I would rather do with that trillion dollars. Like expand the navy by 500% and use the new ships to launch tomahawks at refugee rafts, provide everyone in the world with a slinky every day of the year, create a gerbil colony on Europa, encapsulate every citizen of China in their own tungsten sphere and drop them to the bottom of the Marinas Trench, pave over the Congo, or drop billions of yarmulkes with anti-semetic slogans embroidered on them over Israel, the list is literally endless.
I'd vote for you if you ran on that platform.
If elected as your President I would like to place you in charge of a government agency tasked with sending social workers to eat hamburgers in front of families who have had their foodstamps cut off so that we could afford to send every coyote in the continental United States on a Sandals vacation.
May I humbly suggest a policy of deporting all homeless people, Blacks not currently employed in white collar careers, and trannies to Liberia
Yeah, I'm down to spend some of my taxes for dumb but funny shit. You'd get my vote
Pretty easy to call others Europoors if your only immediate potential rivals are fricking beaners and Cucknucks. Amerisharts have been playing civilization on easy mode since their inception (after getting bailed out by the French, that is) and think that's due to their own ingenuity. If they ever had to face an actual peer adversary they'd surrender immediately. I mean just look at their recent military history. After taking tiny casualties that would make any other nation yawn they abandoned Vietnam, Iraq and Afghanistan. Not that it would ever even come to something like that again, given how fat and/or mentally ill their population has become. They can't even meet their own recruiting goals anymore despite an entire culture built around praising ZOG and its military lackeys.
post hands.
And when WW3 breaks out, we'll be saving your homosexualy european asses yet again. It's like bailing our drunk dad out of jail for public intoxication every few months. It's okay dad, we're here for you
Americans cant fight, back to back world war winners, 2 world cups, cope
>weak homosexual european hands and arms
>looks like a woman
>still seething about American superiority
>most likely NO GUNZ to
lmao you effeminate pussies are all alike, call us when you can bench more than 100 pounds and don't look like a woman
Trolled, i wasnt even the guy you replied to
You're still fat and ugly though
you have very pretty hands
>Froggie still mad that his nation was saved from the Germans twice by America
>Still mad that America had to bail him out of Vietnam
>Still mad that America said no to them taking the Suez
How does it feel to know that your nation is so buck broken and cucked to America that you're now geopolitically irrelevant and you even speak the language.
>Froggie still mad that his nation was saved from the Germans twice by America
Once
Your nation got to be a nation thanks to us btw
>Still mad that America had to bail him out of Vietnam
This is still mysterious to me and fricking hilarious, because that literally didn't happen.
You came after we fricked off, eventhough we warned you about coming there.
>us
You have about as much right to claim that you belong to a group that did something significant in french history as a football fan has right to claim he was personally involved in his teams victory.
Your soft gracile hands around my rock hard wiener please sir
>femboy hands
please please please post more.you French tease
>And when WW3 breaks out, ...
... we'll all die.
Dumb Mutt.
Don't worry, the American SDI constellation made feasible by American-developed cheap heavy orbital lift will save you. Again.
Meanwhile in reality: AAAAAAA HELP ME AMERICA RUSSIA IS ATTACKING AGAIN
Absolutely delusional. Amerisharts are the ones who pushed for this, Euros (Germany in particular) would've been happy to just give up on Ukraine and continue receiving cheap R*ssian gas. No one was squealing for Americlapistan to "help" except for Ukrainians themselves.
>euromutt coping again about americans
fricking gunlesss cucks lmao
>If it wasnt for you bloody yanks we would have surrendered immediately.
So world war 2 in a nutshell?
Continentals fold like a lawn chair becuase they neglected thier militaries,
Bongs make a heroic stand buying time allowing burgers to spin of the war machine before they can do frick all but better late than never becuase they are obsessed with logistics and supply lines?
>If it wasn't for you Americans, we would have folded like a cheap suit at the first sign of trouble!
Yeah, we know.
>If we just ignore it, it will go away
Nah, we're not taking that chance this time, last time we "just ignored it" World War 2 happened.
yes but your a moronic Baathist arab. Your brain is demonstrably disengaged from anything other than poverty, cultural failure and dictatorships and you have no say in what happens in Europe. You are a reason for perhaps the EU or UK to blow up some more shit in Damascus though? Would you like that?
Quick remidner that it was the Euos who were spearheading mass anctions and seizure of russian assets in February-March 2022. Turns out that no, Europe isn't going to just blethedly stand aside while Putin ruins a 77-year streak of no more wars of conquest on the continent. Frick you very much, vatniks. You broke the rule, now Europe breaks you.
It blows my mind how browntards shit on the Rules Based International Order. Black person, that shit isn't to protect us from you. That's to protect you from US.
What do you imagine would happen if Putin got his way and Europeans decided Imperialism was back on the menu?
>China would save us!
No they fricking wouldn't, they'd be grabbing what they could get while the grabbing was good.
You haven't sent a single tank to Europe, low info cretin.
America is a paper tiger.
All you are apt at is sending Humvees, because these are just lightly armored versions of your consumer cars needed to haul the body mass of the average American around.
>we have to save the fricking Europoors again.
Save? Do you mean allying with genocidal commies and letting half of Europe come under communist oppression?
> allying with genocidal commies
The US consistently pushed for the freedom of Eastern Europe, Churchill rejected it but tenuously agreed as well following immense pressure, while France & Spain were obviously in opposition the whole time as colonial enterprises.
Study up on the Atlantic Charter.
>thank God, I was worried it was all going to go to waste
lmao shows you how true allies work. Ukraine is in trouble and America brings all his homies to help a homie out.
Russia is in trouble and their "eternal friend" China scrambles to figure how to distance themselves and avoid getting involved.
China would be piling on right alongside the west right now if it wasn't for Taiwan. Russia has no real friends, just a bunch of tin pot dictators who beg for scraps.
shhhhh..... those are cold war leftovers. it was either having them rusting away or this.
Wrong.
>it was either having them rusting away or this.
Nah, we could probably store them near indefinitely in the desert.
The Ukies better repay us with footage
It's the first time in a very long time that American citizens have watched their tax dollars do something we actually want them to do.
They're doing us a favor, not we dont have to spend money recycling them.
Russians are very generous with their artillery shells and missiles though, they regularly share them with the Ukrainian civilians.
Global security and stability is an export product with strong returns. There's no downsides to dunking on Russian imperialism. It's what all that shit was built to do.
That's what I don't get about the stupid "we're depleting our inventory" line. That cold war inventory was maintained in the 21st century to either A: be expended destroying the Russian military. B: be expended destroying the Chinese military, with a few smaller targets like NK or Iran being an option C.
We literally bought this crap to do exactly this job and now we get to do it all with someone else's blood instead of our own. How can that in any way be a loss? Russia as a conventional military and economic threat is essentially done for and it cost us less than 1 year's defense budget worth of value.
>XAXAXAXA WE DESTROYED ALL OF THE BRADLEYS AMERICA WILL HAVE NO CHOICE BUT TO CUT OFF A-
>US government announces immediate plans to replace every single lost Bradley
I think Russia and their shills are about to realize that America is one of the richest countries in the world
What can >we say, we care about those in need
>WE DESTROYED ALL OF THE BRADLEYS
The really interesting thing is that 90% of those "lost" Bradleys were mobility kills followed by successful crew evacuation, and it's conspicuous that Russians never posted any follow up footage of them destroying them, like they did with that Leopard they double counted once as a mobility kill and then again when they hit it with artillery and it burned.
I think it's not unlikely that the Ukrainians retrieved those Bradleys.
>it's conspicuous that Russians never posted any follow up footage of them destroying them
I doubt they want to remind their soldiers just how much footage Ukraine has of them capturing or killing Russian tank crews because Russians rarely bother trying to evac any of their people, or even allow them to evac themselves before barrier troops light them up for betraying the motherland by retreating.
There's also the funny contrast of the Leopard being hit by a suicide drone and the automatic fire extinguisher immediately putting it out, and a Russian tank being hit and burning until somehow the ammunition explodes, or that other video where the tank is hit by a Ukrainian suicide drone and catches fire, which leads to the crew exiting it, only to get hit by a grenade dropped by another drone that was hovering overhead.
Oh yeah, remember when ziggers spammed "how come there is no footage of this war" across all social media and forums for weeks? Maybe they missed the several videos of Russian soldiers approaching crashed Ukrainian suicide drones and hitting them with sticks (one of them blew up).
Really drives home how subhuman they are.
There are what? 2000 older Bradleys sitting in depots unused? Probably more newer ones? I think Ukraine may be OK zedsisters
litteraly
>lol send in the next wave
based
>send in the next wave
>/misc/ can’t even make memes anymore, just steal them
SAD
>evil can only mock, not make
>mfw bradley factory workers getting sweet overtime
war is great huh
They're not building new ones at an increased rate. We have about 2.5k in storage atm and 3k in service
Meanwhile uralvagonzavod workers have been slaving away in three shifts for a year now and are struggling to source parts
thousands are in reserve doing nothing but gather dust, they're in no rush to make more.
Whats happened with superior wundewuffe which will crush vatniks in 24 hours? Is it sheer number
of vehicles now like soviets do?
I know it must be a scary and alien concept to you of having allies you can count on.
>Allies
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fall_of_Kabul_(2021)
No refunds
>WHAT ABOUT
yup, 100% demoralized. The west will collapse any day now, zister!
the problem in the trashcan is that we had no allies, when we left it was a vacuum.
We gave them weapons and everything. Allies are supposed to pick up their own weight, not abandon it.
That's nice, sub-Black person. Unfortuantely for (You), the Ukrianians aren't GIRoA and have proven themselves quite motivated and competent at slaughtering ziggers by the tens of thousands.
>Afghans given weapons and training, they don't use them, they get conquered by goat frickers, team freedom gives up helping Afghans.
>Ukrainians given weapons and training, they use them, they don't get conquered by drunken bear frickers, team freedom doesn't give up helping Ukrainians.
The difference seems simple enough to me.
>runs into a minefield
>generals as corrupt as Russian if not more
I mean sure, I personally think this is a plot of China and Russia to bait the west into its own Afghanistan where they drain their paper money and de dollarization hits at the same time with OPEC telling us to frick off
But yeah it’s crazy right now
Holy shit.
This is easily one of the most demoralized morons I've ever seen post seriously.
>Oh no, all my arguments failed! Time to post another fanfiction!
The minefield? No that happened they ran in circles before being spotted
The other shit is a theory but it’s a huge weak spot for America since the saudis gave us the finger lel
You don’t refute me
The juba sniper still won
Not Russian btw
>The juba sniper still won
The who again? Ah, another schizo vatBlack person delusions, gotcha.
>Not Russian btw
Could've fooled me. But then, you thirdie sub-Black folk are all the same in most regards.
Well juba-kun is still alive
I will not take slander from people who have literal trannies on their front lawn of their presidential seat of power
You are literally on par with rome under Elagabalus at this point.
>still alive
Juba is more of a group than a person himself.
>juba-kun
>alive
Delusions cannot be alive or dead, little bot.
>I will not take slander
Aww, gonna cry?
>muh trannies
Obsessed.
>muh edgy Rome analogy
And we're back to the bot spouting random schizoid nonsense.
Tell your developer there's something wrong with your AI.
Kurds want to send you hello and thank their best ally
How’s Kazakhstan and Armenia doing these days?
>implying we can even replace our overpriced trash with no industry
Kek, you homosexuals still think it’s 1945
There’s also a whole ass Russian army in rostov with decent equipment ready to flood in, we’re a week in and Ukraine still isn’t at the first line.
/k/ is so moronic when it comes to operational warfare
America is literally throwing its stock away with what industry to replace it? It’s gonna take years and a lot of social cohesion homosexual
Something lacking in my muttistan politics
Love from /misc/
P.s chinks and Iran now have the leopard and Bradley kek
I expect kino knock-offs soon
I was going to respond to this by telling you that America's military industry was never sent overseas like people tend to think but then you outed yourself as a demoralized, contrarian moron
Oh yeah, where’s the shekels gonna come from homosexual? You wanna keep ticking inflation up while we’re teetering on breaking into hyperinflation in ten years (regardless if we keep increasing debt) or collapse the economy and default
There’s a reason Ivan attacked when he did, lmao.
>inb4 muh 80s equipment
Who cares? It’s irrelevant to the Russians since they just bodied the wunderwaffens like Ahmed in Syria did with IEDs
It’s rained the last two days hence Ukrainian advances because Russia’s Air Force is grounded but like the week before was just losing probing attacks it’s almost like attacking without air defense/superiority is suicide
Like jeez open a fricking book
homosexual
Thats a hilarious demand coming from someone so profoundly ignorant about warfare, military industry and history generally.
America has literally lost every war since world war 2 with questionable objectives and I don’t wanna think about Grenada
I’ll give Russia one thing
Three million Ukrainians escape to Russia
They grew in land and their army is now bigger than it was when the invasion started
How did they lose? Or worse off than I was when I was a zoggie because shit I’d die for imperialism and free land not homosexualry and liberalism
The German army in 1945 was bigger than the army in 1939, clearly that meant Germany won the war right?
>muh Germany
Russia isn’t Germany dumbass
And there isn’t gonna be GAYTO bombers destorying wheat fields because then it’s nukes, you people are actual glowies, there’s no way you dumbasses are genuinely comparing an actual coalition of nations that had industry and social cohesion behind them with the modern west? Also ignoring Germany was fighting a two front war while that actually favors Russia if more fronts open because it stretches Ukrainian assault units
Point is, you’re dumb this isn’t Germany lol
The same west who lost 130k dead to the talichads thanks to suicide? Yeah bet, I saw the videos bro Ukrainians literally used anti mine vehicles thinking “BAHA THEY WORKED IN IRA-“
Kek
Also you homosexuals still think there’s an INDUSTRY HAHAHA
Meow hiss hiss
>accuse people of stretching it with the germany comparison
>proceeds to stretch by making a inane comparison about muh suicides despite it being a vague metric of its own
Pot meets kettle.
Only playing your game GAYTO Black person
Ivan gets more land for his nation
We literally got drugged up and pozzed HAHAHAHAHA
Notice how he gets less and less coherent as he runs out of scripted talking points to shill.
Yes. Germany was a highly industrialised great power with a large population of young men and a highly cohesive and united political system.
Russia is a glorified third world gas station with a pile of rusted soviet leftover junk, heaps of rubble and rust that used to be an industrial base, delusions of being a great power (when they're not even a real regional power anymore LMAO), an aging and dying out population and enormous internal rifts.
>an actual coalition of nations that had industry and social cohesion behind them
So the modern west, aka the most socially cohesive and most highly industrialised (and especilaly so for military industry) coalition of nations to exist on the planet right now. And guess what, no amount of ignorance and denial on your part is going to change that cold, hard, proven fact.
>muh nooks
LMAO
>you people are actual glowies
Meds, schizo.
PS: It's the Russians who are already overstretched btw. Because their units aren't worth shit for the most part and just shatter and melt away the moment they meet ukrainian troops at anything close to numerical parity.
>Also you homosexuals still think there’s an INDUSTRY HAHAHA
We know it's there. Becuase unlike you, we're not terminally ignorant sub-Black folk and cna read stuff beyond what you're being spoonfed by RT and TASS.
>says the people who got folded in Afghanistan in a week and struggled in fallujah despite having a 10-1 ratio in men and firepower
So glad I’m leaving this shithole kek, have fun with your weimer republic and economy.
>inb4 but Russia will suffer the same
What do you think relocating Ukrainians into Russia was for and also Russia could very well force people to frick at gunpoint
The west on the other hand
Kek
Good luck homosexuals HAHAHA
Come on, man. You can't be this blatant with shitposting.
The glowie cries out in pain as he raises the debt ceiling
I don’t know what to tell you, friend.
This happened before though
>muh Afghanistan
That's nice, kiddo. Meanwhile the Ukrainians have no problem folding the Russians 10-1 using little more than NATO pocket money. LMAO.
>your weimer republic and economy
LMAO, how to amdit you know literally less than nothing about economics. Have fun in the utpoian paradise of Russia or whatever else third world shithole you're intending to leave to.
>inb4 but Russia will suffer the same
Well, no. They'd have to actually not lose the war for that, and outside of your copium-addled delusions that's not gonna happen. I guess the enforced post-war demilitarized zones in Belgorod, Kursk and Rostov oblasts might give the ukrainians the odd headache, tho.
No Russia isn't Germany, Russia is worse than Germany, Germany started the war with a growing industrial base, a growing population, an ideology that while sinister was at least taking the country up, and was winning on multiple fronts politically and economically even if it couldn't be sustained.
Russia meanwhile is a decaying shell of itself with rotting factories, rotting cities, a declining population of people who only stay because they are too poor to leave and an entire ideology that is simply "REMEMBER THAT TIME WE WERE COOL" Russia loses 150k in suicides a fricking year because they come off the Vodka long enough to realize what a wretched hive they live in and they give up that tiny last shred of hope.
>Russia isn’t Germany dumbass
No shit, Germany has good tech and an actual industry.
Wake up, it's not 2021 anymore, it's dead now.
Russia's already dead? Huh, I thought it was still twitching a bit.
Yes, yes, it'll collapse aaaaany day now.
>Three million Ukrainians escape to Russia
Yea, surely letting in 3 million people not wanting to be in your country is a good idea in the long run.
>They grew in land and their army is now bigger than it was when the invasion started
What army? You mean the army that they can barely logistically handle? What land? You mean the land that is always in constant threat of being retaken? Do you understand how moronic you sound?
>How did they lose? Or worse off than I was when I was a zoggie because shit I’d die for imperialism and free land not homosexualry and liberalism
They lost in every way possible ranging from destroying their own industries and potential growth. Either you're a shill or a dumbass from some rich western household that has no idea what the other side is like.
They're from /misc/ that means they are a demoralized brain damaged moron who actively wishes for the death of the west because they are seething losers who hate themselves.
>Yea, surely letting in 3 million people not wanting to be in your country is a good idea in the long run
Apparently they’re fine, regardless they grew in size, their army is bigger than it was from the start of the invasion and they’re chilling with short supply chains
Smart
>”NOOOO YOU HAVE TO OVEREXTEND AND LAUNCH SUICIDE ATTACKS”
at least one side learns from its mistakes kek.
Cope and seethe my fellow Westoid as a young man I have more to join fighting for land as a Russian/ANTI-GAYTO fighter than I do fighting for Black person sex as a Ukrainian
Shame, but given how the probing attacks are going it’s over and I await the seethe from you homosexuals when the Ukrainians can’t go any further and start getting pushed back
Frick man
It’s textbook defense in depth
You should know this but you’re full of glowies now /k/
Text book sex
>It’s textbook defense in depth
But Russia isn't being invaded
i love how the vatBlack folk scream "defense in depth" acting as if any day now, their army of asiatic mongoloid vodka Black folk will magically morph into Von Manstein's SS-PanzerKorps and they'll retake Kharkiv
>Apparently they’re fine, regardless they grew in size, their army is bigger than it was from the start of the invasion and they’re chilling with short supply chains
Smart
Again, SURELY letting people that hates your guts inside your country is a good fricking idea, moron. Also, numbers don't matter if you can't supply them or properly organized them. This isn't a RTS game, dumbass.
>at least one side learns from its mistakes kek. Cope and seethe my fellow Westoid as a young man I have more to join fighting for land as a Russian/ANTI-GAYTO fighter than I do fighting for Black person sex as a Ukrainian
I hope you're trolling and not being literal.
>muh bigger army
A million worthless untrained mobiks with T-62s that will shatter the moment they meet any ukrainian forces are still worthless untrained mobiks that will shatter the moment they meet any ukrainian forces.
Also, Russia supply lines ar eenormously long and overstretcehd, moron.
>muh textbook defense in dpeth
Except for the part where it doesn't have any real depth, doesn't have any real reserves (they all died trying to take Bakhmut LOL) and the defenses themselves are so undermanned they can't ever achieve more than temporarily delay a serious advance.
>given how the probing attacks are going
You mean the probing attacks that outside zigger propaganda brainrot have advanced 10-15km along a 30km wide front while suffering minimal casualties in the process and visibly inflicting considerably higher casualties on the defenidng Russians? LMAO. Seethe and project ahrder.
You’re literally still at the start point buster
Better hurry up or you won’t meet your timetable soon and you’ll be officially bogged down. You’ve had the last two days with rain so dig in before the Russian counter attack with air strikes
That’s the worse part
Still no air defense
Not enough patriots and they still need to come out of hiding
>nonsensical schizo ramblings
Tell your developer that there's a problem with your AI, little bot.
>muh counter attack
LMAO, didn't you hear? They already did. The russkie counterattack got massacred, 127th Motor Rifle Division ran for the hills and they lost even more ground. Seethe more about it.
Oh Russian air strikes oh yeah those su 57..
>America has literally lost every war since world war 2
Post Seoul
these posts are way funnier if you read them in an indian accent
if you open the page in edge you can turn on read aloud mode and have an AI generated pajeet read it out to you
How has Putin choices improved your material life?
Cousin Yuri brought back a real water toilet. Sadly we don't have plumbing to connect it to.
It won the Korean war, the cold war and desert storm.
Seethe
>Why hasn't america civilized our shithole after invading it and occupying for years
>b-but muh 130,000 suicides from killing terrorists
is this that shitskin meme where Americans suffered so low casualties from invading and occupying your shithole that they end up trying to claim national guard suicides were caused by the taliban? suicides from what? guilt from killing so many of you with HAARP and mind control devices? KEK.
Better not check the latest birth data from Russia. It turned from bad to catastrophic last year.
https://newizv.ru/news/2023-06-12/roddomy-zakryvayutsya-za-nenadobnostyu-v-rossii-nebyvalyy-demograficheskiy-krizis-410082
Bring some charts or data here, I don't read runes.
Keep on seething, Boris
>wunderwaffen
>after pointing its 80s shit
yeah sending those unused equipment is what is driving inflation
>Grounded airforce because of a bit of rain
Lmao, what cope is this.
>I was going to respond to this by telling you that America's military industry was never sent overseas like people tend to think but then you outed yourself as a demoralized, contrarian moron
The civilian industry underpinning the specialized military industry was exported. Oops! What you see today is the fallout from "but muh stock options" boardroom crazyness in the 90s and 00s. Fastest way to boost stock options was to outsource, stop R&D and coast on inertia for a few years until the rot becomes obvious and the company is sold to a competitior. During this time, the company insiders cashed in their stock options at maximum valuation. 20 years later the consequences of this Wall Street looting game are very obvious and very expensive to fix if they are fixable at all. But hey! At least some hard working ivy league graduates can afford to throw fantastic bar mizvah parties for their kids!
Good thing the US is sending its old cold war stockpiles then huh? Vidrel
>P.s chinks and Iran now have the leopard and Bradley kek
>I expect kino knock-offs soon
dude, they already have knock-offs. you seem to be under the impression that leos and desert storm bradley are somehow state of the art?
>a whole ass Russian army in rostov with decent equipment ready to flood in
mhm, any moment now
>W-we never committed our FULL army during an entire 1.5 year losing/stalemated conflict!
>Haha, that wasn’t our REAL first line of defense! It’s another 10km away! No, this isn’t the third time I said this!
>Finally! Iran and China can badly copy 20 year old vehicles! Take that, West!
No homosexual, they’re there to end it, once the offensive is blunted, there’s literally shit set aside for this exact objective and Russia wasn’t hiding it’s stockpile of shells, idk what the frick you expect kek
The best time for Ukraine to bounce was after Kherson but Russia is now mobilized and the fricking main army is the only one in Ukraine
The actual reserves called up are apparently still in Rostov, Belarus and in the country and sorta trickle in but they’re literally there just waiting for the offensive to die before reinforcing
Kinda like Kursk lol
There is no "Actual army" there is no "Super secret 5 million T-14 strong army" hiding somewhere in Russia. The US spooks regularly run circles around Russia to the point that the CIA knows what Russia is doing before Russia even tells their own soldiers.
There is no secret Russian army that is just sitting back watching Russians get slaughtered.
Stop worshipping McGreigor there is nothing else. Russia only has what it has, this isn't the lord of the rings, there are no Riders of Siberia who are going to swoop in on a legion of T-14s and save the day.
>GUYS THIS ARMY I TOTALLY DIDN’T MAKE UP IS TOTALLY THERE AND READY TO MOBILIZE AND NEVER GOT SPOTTED BY NATO ISR! TRUST ME ON THIS!
That's nice, kiddo. Meanwhile the offensive is showing no signs to be blunted before reaching the sea and the Ukrianians have enough reserves to slaughter your mythical extra army of shitty mobiks a couple times over.
>muh mobilized
Worthless, Russia has neither the manpwoer nor the industrial capacity to keep up , evne fully mobilized. The Ukrainians will just keep killing them and at current rate will in the worst case simply win by exterminating Russias entire military-age male population. And there is nothing you or the rest of your copium-addled morons can do about it. Deal with it.
>Kinda like Kursk
Only difference being that it is the Ukrainians who enjoy unlimited materiel and resupply courtesy of the overwhelming majority of the worlds economy and military industry, and there's no western allies to do all then hard work for the Russians.
>kek
Deeply pathetic
cope
> 20 year old vehicles!
40 years old actually.
It's the truth. And when the F-16s arrive, they're gonna be within a hair of 50 years old. Half a century. Really makes you think.
Dear lord in heaven, I am so fricking blueballed to see Meteor and AMRAAM spamming every remaining Soviet airframe with hot fiery Fox Three death. I want to see Flankers do the cobra maneuver straight into a humiliating fireball kill. I exist only to watch all the bragging about Felon's RCS turn to sobbing and defeat. O, let me live long enough to witness every S-400 sucking down HARM until Xi literally vomits from buyer's remorse. Please please let the MIC's Cold War arsenal go out in a blaze of glory, finally fulfilling their purpose of ridding the world of the last of the Soviet arsenal. And then sink the Black Sea fleet just because.
Amen.
>Verification not required.
God yes, there's just something deliciously ironic that stuff made back during the cold war to destroy the Russians is finally getting to live out it's purpose.
I want to know how much of the US military would jump at the chance to actually go over there and just end Russia's martial capability entirely. None of this pussyfooting "hearts and minds" shit, just Desert Storm 2: Vatnik Bloody Goo
Genuinely starting to consider the possibility that we are all living inside some long lost Tom Clancy novel
>muh no industry
LMAO. Current US mil industry can build 500 Bradleys a year, while remaining on a peacetime footing.
>There’s also a whole ass Russian army in rostov with decent equipment ready to flood in,
LMAO, more worthless mobik cannonfodder to get slaughtered, and that's if the ukies don't blast the rail link first.
>we’re a week in and Ukraine still isn’t at the first line.
Well ,sure. They're never gonna reach the first line at the speed you zigger tards are pulling it back. It's gonna fall into the Azov Sea first.
>/k/ is so moronic when it comes to operational warfare
Says the moron who isn't seeing the massive signs of impending operaitonal disaster for the Russians.
>America is literally throwing its stock away with what industry to replace it?
The one that can produce AFVs by the hundreds annually on a peacetime setting and without any further expansion, moron.
>Love from /misc/
Please stay on your containment board in the future, you clueless sub-Black person.
PS: That Leopard/Bradley video was the same bunch of braggarts you morons spammed for days, all while not mentioning thzat the ukies took back the area and killed them all after those videos were shot. LMAO.
>I expect kino knock-offs soon
Yes,m becuase you're a moron who doesn't udnerstand that the Chinks (let alone Iran) don't have the industry and technical knowledge to actually replicate anything in those vees that isn't 30+ years old anyway.
>LMAO. Current US mil industry can build 500 Bradleys a year, while remaining on a peacetime footing.
Current swedish industry can build 365 cv90 per year while remaining on a peacetime footing. And Sweden is 1/35th the size of AhMurrica.
i dont think that includes weapons.
>i dont think that includes weapons.
It does. Cost per vehicle is about 9 million dollars each. The production is intended for export to european customers (not ukraine).
isnt all cv90s built in örnsköldsvik? that factory isnt all that big
he won't respond, utter cuck
>still think it’s 1945
Unlike vatniks that think it's 1916?
There's a whole ass Russian army is Rostov with decent equipment? Cool why aren't they stopping their friends from dying right now?
Remember that new tank division outfitted with the gucciest of Russian gear that was going to save the day early in the war? Only to get shreked the second they entered Ukraine and never talked about again? Pepperidge farms remembers
I am the foreskin of my dick, I am the ass in the ass.
UNLIMITED MIC WORK
PEOPLE WILL DIE WHEN THEY ARE KILLED
Yes. Once again American industrialism wins the day. Just like in WWII.
pic related is literally me
Reminder if the shitposting seems to have ramped up it's because reddit shit itself and the refugees came
yeah, Reddit is being as moronic as twitch is and trying to monetize their website. what's funny is that all the Redditors couldn't help but stay on Reddit so they openly stated that the protest will last only today and tomorrow, so really nothing will positively change for them anyway
Germany wasn't a mere regional power though.
Russia is inevitably more than a regional power just due to its geographic location, size and population. The concept of a regional power can't really be applied when the country spans across two continents.
>when the country spans across two continents.
but it just doesn't. The country ends at the Urals, beyond that there's no "country", you might as well mark it no man's land on the map, beyond a few stations around the railway.
Novosibirsk is the 3rd largest city in Russia and sits beyond the Urals. That being said obviously most Russians live in the European part of Russia.
Regardless that's beside the point. That being that Russia can deploy and project their assets across a large span of Europe, central and east Asia by virtue of its geography even if they have a relatively small army and navy.
Being the third largest city in Russia is like being the second best country at American Football.
im not sure you understand that russia is moscow+stpetersburg.
all other cities are considered shitholes and have little power.
No because germans were facing down a red army that was much larger then them, ukies are running out of soldiers and are desperate enough they are throwing recent pow's back into the fight
As opposed to Russia who are just throwing regular prisoners and rocket scientists onto the frontlines?
>ukies are running out of soldiers
it has very repeatedly been shown that the bottleneck for Ukraine is equipment and supplies. "Running out of men" is also usually very rare in wars anyways, it's a lot easier to find men, give him a gun and send him to the front than it is to keep that man constantly supplied with equipment and ammunition so he can properly fight
Ukraine lost 15k men.
Russia lost 50k men
>they are throwing recent pow's back into the fight
Is that the newest cope regarding the incursions into Belgorod?
For any US or EU citizens here I wish to say
Thank you. Really, that's not a simple words.
I'm sitting in a shelter just right now, waiting for air raid alert to end. Watching reports in text chats how russian rockets flying right now across our country.
Indeed, without your help and our military forces bravery I would be already dead, or at least lost my home, my town, my country.
Just thank you. We won't ever forget what you have done for us. I won't ever forget.
Just make sure your nation never falls under their sway ever again. Russians should never be allowed any influence west of the pigsty of a country they have.
God bless. This war has been the most moral thing the US has done with its military spending since at least WW2. I hope for victory for Ukraine and have written my congressman and senators to continue to support Ukraine's struggle for survival with military equipment, intelligence support, and diplomatic actions.
"You" morons didn't learn last time the Russians took your country over and almost wiped the population out.
You're welcome. Death to ziggers.
As long as I get easy poon for it when I travel to Ukraine after the war, don't sweat it Shevchenko.
Thank YOU, man. Every Russian that dies in Ukraine is one more Russian that won't come here to rape and destroy everything.
I hope after the war is over, your country can rebuild and the people can reach the vast potential that they have. Stay safe
We won't forget either, brochacho. You're doing the Lord's Work over there, pulverizing the last, rusty, disease-ridden fragments of the Soviet Empire. Your nation will be forever unified behind this founding struggle, this War of Ukrainian Independence.
My only regret is that we don't live in a better world where you were already badged into NATO in 2013. Stay safe, and Godspeed.
Your welcome bro, the equipment was designed to fight Russia and now it finally can
thats what you get for following a israelite.
300.000 other men werent lucky like
but they are also underground right now
Beste Grüße aus Deutschland
>Beste Grüße aus Deutschland
Sankt Petersburg ist nicht in Deutschland, mein Lieber.
>300.000 other men
But enough about russian losses in this war.
Assuming this isn't fake and gay, always remember that this world isn't grey anymore and that there's actual, unironic villains in the East that ape out whenever another country wants to westernize (read: want to become functioning and prosperous). You might not ever get to join NATO but you'll at least be in the honorary club with Australia and Japan
>fake and gay
The Iraqi Baathist in Syria working as a paid shill for a Chinese-Arabic media company which is spamming for putin is now making moronic strawman posts pretending to be Ukrainian. Yawn.
you're welcome homie.
>strykers
That’s new isn’t it? Those aren’t mothballed either
Ukrainians seemed to have underestimated the amount of mines. Wasn’t NATO intel on top of that? Or is it just the limit of satellite and long-range ISR capabilities?
>Send 110 Bradleys
>16 are disabled during combat
>10 are later recovered
>US sends 50 more
>now Ukraine has 154 Bradleys and units who now know what NOT to do in them
Shit, we've got thousands just hanging out in the desert. The only reason not to send a lot more right away is because it's funnier watching ziggers celebrate a dozen downed vehicles, only for them to be replaced with two dozen new ones.
And then ignore that they lost 100 armored vehicles themselves too because they know their equipment is complete shit and can only celebrate enemy losses, not their own victories, because they either are so costly to just be embarrassing....or just don’t exist
Americans are the biggest donors by amount, but the Europeans giving away like 20% of their military equipment should also be given credit. Soon, even Japan may be giving Ukraine weapons. The important thing is that all understand just how badly Russian needs its shit pushed in.
Americans aren't actually, if you do a calculation Europe just about eeked out above the US in terms of aid and this was before it turned out the US was fudging the numbers, not military aid kind you, but monetary aid becomes military aid effectively.
This might effectively change as 155mm and HIMARs are still being procured by both the US and Europe for sending to Ukraine.
The US is the worlds larges arms producer, but it's still selling weapons to Europe to give to Ukraine, this isn't a bad deal for the US at all.
Honestly no, Bradley was always a coffin. But compared to a BMP yeah for sure it actually has some protection.
>most of the crews likely survived due to the survivability of the bradley
>wont need to wait months to retrain the crews
>at most it'll be a week to get them on the front
So THAT'S why the bradley's second to none when it comes to IFVs.
Muh murica muh Afghanistan, puccia stronk reeee. Meanwhile outside/pol schizoreality Russia lost in Afghanistan too, whole country collapsed and got balkanized. Well USA lost, but still exists and kicking russian ass, Russians dying' is the 'best money the US has ever spent. Now show washing machine homosexual
POST STRYKER FOOTAGE YOU USELESS BUMS, I WANNA SEE
The Strykers haven't been deployed yet, that's for after the minefields.
>Stryker spam on the fortified positions after the reserves were taken from the third and second line to bolster the first defensive line.
war is hell
I'd love to see Strf 9040 myself, I'm a Swede and it would be very interesting to see our equipment in actual wartime use (even if they get destroyed, lmao)
yeah im very curious on how they will perform.
i kinda want them to do poorly so that the government gives a shitton of money to the army to upgrade and build more of them. CV90 Mark 5 is tasty.
Not even comparable.
The USA is currently giving only what they can safely spare.
Nothing wrong with that, considering China might decide to coup Xi and chimpout, not to mention that India is only refraining from a chimpout because they are scared of China and the USA teaming up.
>HIMARS air defense systems
All you can do is cope that there will be a break in the alliance soon
Like Hitler coping for ages that the British would turn on the Americans, or Himmler trying to cut a deal with the Allies to shit on the Soviets together
All of Russia's eggs are now in the "NATO will abandon Ukraine soon" basket, never mind that they'd still have to do the hard yards of beating Ukraine with the weapons they had already received even after that and that it just doesn't make any sense in the first place
Notice only America and Bradleys/Strykers
Not a whiff from Germany or any other Leo2 user.
It's ogre for Ukraine.
Germany literally has announced a few hours ago that they will send more Leo1s to Ukraine
source?
https://www.tagesspiegel.de/politik/pistorius-dampft-erwartung-werden-der-ukraine-nicht-jeden-panzer-ersetzen-konnen-9972510.html
I should add - Pistorius says that Germany can't replace every Leopard Ukraine loses, but they are sending more in any case.
Leo1's a pretty shitty tanks though. Still better than nothing I guess.
Steven Anderson is a fraud and has exactly 0 to do with /k/.
Feels like you're doing some perfectly honorable PvP and a high level butthole swoops in to kill you.
>Russia has infinite artillery BECAUSE IT JUST DOES OKAY
>Please ignore all the Russian soldiers complaining about lack of artillery it just grows on trees okay!!!
>muh tHe WeSt HaS nO mOrE iNdUsTrY
LOL. LMAO, even. Absolute braindead take even by zigger standards.
>Is this what the Germans felt during WW2 on the Eastern Front?
No, the Germans actually had peak tank numbers in 1944, Russia is the weakest it has been militarily since the 1920s due to the Ukrainian decision to disarm Russia
When the US sends gear to ukraine they strip the most essential parts of the inventory, the electronics, radar and satellite comms in fear they would be reverse engineered, what the ukranians are getting are basically tin cans with turrets in it with nothing advanced in them.
That's all well and good. Bu how will Ukraine rebuild all its rekt infrastructure, the dam that recently got blown up being a good example?
You can bet if the war ends in Ukraine's favor the EU is ready to pour shit tons of reconstruction money into Ukraine.
>Is this what the Germans felt during WW2 on the Eastern Front?
the funny part is that the US was providing endless supplies to the Soviets in WW2
so Putin really should have seen this coming
that's why I started my post with "assuming this isn't fake and gay"
ITT, Indians pretending to be European successfully sow discord among low-IQ westerners.