>Has all the ergonomic advantages of the AR
>80% of parts are interchangeable with the AR
>Has better charging handle than the AR
>Has better reliability than the AR
>Piston design so no more gas in the face unlike the AR
>Much more optimized for suppressors than the AR
>Has a folding stock
>Accuracy on par with the AR
>Can mount any accessories that the AR can
How is the Perun not a total upgrade from the AR platform?
Is there any reasons why the Perun shouldn't replace the AR in the next 5 years?
Only issue is that it is a bit heavier.
>same weight as an AR
>improved ergos
>folding stock for vehicle comfort
>cartridge that makes 6.5 grendel look like ginger beer
>each mag of 25 is same weight as 30 rounds of 5.56. So one extra mag per soldier (7+1 instead of 6+1) to get basically the same ammo loadout
>means substantially greater engagement range and can thump through soft skin vehicles at range unlike 5.56 all while maintaining an undiminished volume of fire.
>How is the Perun not a total upgrade from the AR platform?
It'll probably cost 4 grand before you start talking optics and shit.
Same but 6 grand and rounds will cost 3 to 5 dollars a pop.
The Perun is currently available for 2k from Rainier Arms and kits are around 1k from AEA Arms
oh shit thanks for the heads up
Other than the charging handle design and location i really like the way this rifle looks.
It has one on both sides.
I still cant figure out how the charging handle works
does the shiny bit get pushed upwards as you're charging it
sorta like a dustcover or something
>I still cant figure out how the charging handle works
>does the shiny bit get pushed upwards as you're charging it
Seems like it
Best part of this gun is that is copied the XCR/Bren 2 bolt controls which are the best around. Charging handle location is a bit funky. Wonder how much it’ll cost if it’s ever sold on civilian market?
I want one so bad. Civvie version fucking WHEN? FN please.
What about it makes it not an ar-15 though
Completely different action.
Has a sort of hybrid DI short stroke piston system which allows for better suppression and the use of a folding stock.
>DI short stroke
That sounds pretty fucking complicated, is it used to reduce piston harmonics?
Not really. The gas tube ends at the receiver where, there is an adjustable cup where the piston head resides.
So it's a standard DI action then instead of Stoner's retarded variant of DI? Not sure how this is revolutionary given that both the Hakim and MAS 44/49/56
In essence, except its impinging on a short stroke piston inside the receiver instead of the carrier. Less revolutionary and more convoluted.
yeah that's fucking retarded.
It's really not. Ian described it as elegant, and once you get into the guts of a detail strip you get a pretty good look at what he means by that.
Less of a consideration for theoretical military contracts, but then again it's not like the new M7 is particularly cheap for civilians at the moment either.
wow a bunch of minutae that does nothing, thanks anon awesome
Is another thread on this ugly piece of shit really necessary?
Huh, that's funny, I have an non-firearm lower from an old bushmaster that looks pretty much like that. Maybe I should get the upper and make a non-gun.
The upper rail is necessarily high over bore to fit the bolt and piston. This really shouldn't matter for AR engagement range but it's the main nitpick I can think of. The hybrid system is clever and the parts compatibility is nice, and the modularity is also thoughtful.
>>Has better charging handle than the AR
>>Has better reliability than the AR
nope
>Piston design so no more gas in the face unlike the AR
plenty of piston guns have that problem
>Accuracy on par with the AR
Maybe a shit one
Uses the same bolt and barrel as an ar meaning it is as accurate as what any ar can be
>Uses the same bolt and barrel
and a different operating mechanism ensuring it will always be less mechanically accurate.
The operating mechanism no less precise than a di gun
>Is This What Peak Performance Look Like?
No, this is. And it's not vaporware. Newest order (biggest such order in Europe): 184,000 rifles
Confusing and don't see any benefits in interchangeability.
The lower is different from standard and still needs to be changed for different magazine such as pistol.
The new upper now connects the stock and handguard. It is still the same "keep multiple uppers, sights zeroed and read to go" or "just change out the barrel or BCG and redo the zero to use the same upper" except more expensive and less choice.
It is only good for "I want to keep my upper to the appropriate stock for purpose and weight balance" /"I got a more affordable SCAR" / "I want my flashlight centered on the top rail"
The handguard looks like you can use any other's, except you need to slot them on top for gas tube.
>you know what would be peak performance?
An upper receiver that keeps the magwell so the lower only includes the trigger and grip. In that way It can be any caliber for any mag, ready to go once the lower is slipped on and hammer force is appropriate.
>peak performance
>not bullpup
Try again.
Sorry libtard, the AR-15 is America's rifle. It's been putting people underground for decades now, and no fag Euro snowflake rifle is gonna change that.
We get it you just watched the TFBtv video. Do you have any opinions of your own or are you simply going to regurgitate whatever paid gun shills say on YouTube about “the best new gun since the one they reviewed last”.
Doesn't seem to be, the site implies people cut their own lowers to fit rather than pay $100 for the plastic factory one.
Peak poorformance. Bring on a akou 5k test. We'll see if this piece of shit breaks a sled like brassfacts jakl.
>akou 5k test
Genuinely a bigger loss from covid than any of the sickly boomers who croaked
Rob Ski died?
Nah he just can't really do the 5k round videos these days with the ammo market fucked from corona and then the russian ammo ban and the panic-buying that followed. He still puts a bit of content out but he didn't really shifted gears like Garand Thumb did, but I won't begrudge him for prioritizing family time over dealing with youtube bullshit
You retarded anon?
>jams every 2 rounds
>massive zero shift aver just a mag
Lmao
>post completely different gun
>complains about it
WHY DOES THIS KEEP HAPPENING TO ME?
It's literally the same gun with just a couple cosmetic differences. Toilet cleaner.
They're not even made in the same country, you fucking idiot. Much less in the same factory or subjected to the same Q&A processes.
> It's literally the same gun with just a couple cosmetic differences.
MSBS is Polish ACR, different operating system than the Perun
Kurwa any native Pole (we know far more about this than you ever will) can tell you the MSBS is a completely original design that is nothing like the ACR. The receiver is more like a SCAR, if anything, why would we copy a failed fagpul design?
>Piston design so no more gas in the face unlike the AR
blows my mind how many posters here have clearly never shot guns before
gas goes right into your eye tho on ar rifles its by design
Have you ever shot an AR? Like, ever?
That's not how it works noguns.
ARs are no dirtier than any other gun, gas comes out of the BARREL not the gas tube. All gas from the gas tube is ejected out the side of the carrier, nowhere near the chamber.
If you use a silencer that produces excessive backpressure, just as much shit is going to get into the bolt/chamber area of a Perun as with an AR of any type. Changing the method of operation can never stop it.
You clearly havent fired a suppressed AR and suppressed piston gun side by side.
Thanks, OP, I needed a new retard gun to add to my collection.