If it comes down to it, how fast can NATO steamroll the Russians? Posted on March 7, 2023 by PrepHole Contributor If it comes down to it, how fast can NATO steamroll the Russians?
Russia wouldn't last a week. At this point I think 1990s Iraq would put up better resistance.
Retard. Your not just going up against China.
I meant Russia. China would get involved. Every nation involved in or interested in BRICs would get involved.
America is a divided country and will not win. There are people in the US who would attack the government while they're off fighting BRICS nations.
How will the US Government and Military fight a world war and a civil war at the same time?
>muh global south stands united
Now this is some thirdie/vatnik cope
stupid indian go back shitting in the street
Terrified of the power of south africa and argentina for sure
Stopped reading there. BRICS isn't a military alliance or even a coherent economic alliance, it's a buzzword made by a Goldman Sachs president back in 2004 and every BRICS nation has underperformed.
>NATO has only been losing territory
When did NATO send troops to Ukraine?
bbut NATO attacked the glorious state of russia, hence the special military operation! what do you mean nato didnt send any troops to attack rossiya??!!
When the FSB chuds figured it would make their defeat look better.
>I'm gonna NOOOOOOK
Seriously now, no one is going to use the nukes unless they are insane, their role is just as deterrents and God knows if they even work at this point.
Russian government will not use nukes to protect Russia, but they will use nukes to protect their own authority over Russia.
>unless they are insane
Very likely they would get used then. The real question is how much territory each side could retain after a counter-force exchange.
Do they work?
I mean that seriously. Given the amount of posturing going on, I'm very surprised by how relatively inactive Russian Strategic Rocket Forces have been. Not many alerts to speak of, if any, to my knowledge, and beyond verbal huffing and puffing no showy deployments/redeployments of TELs. For all the "i'm gonna NOOOOOK" threats and theatrics, they've mostly really shown that they're either not seriously considering using them at all, or that they frankly can't and want to save themselves the colossal embarrassment and strategically horrifying implications of having it known to the world.
it's more likely putin doesn't control the nukes
kleptocratic pseudo-dictatorships like russia usually have factions retain independence over their most important assets
now traditionally most of those kind of countries are african so it might be something like irrigation projects being untouchable by others for the agricultural faction but it would not be far-fetched for the russian military to have said "no monke, banana for you, nuke for us"
and if they keep to it as a block what's putin going to do, disband the entire fucking military?
From the amount of money russia spends on it's nuclear arms and the number of tests (none of them succesful btw) they did in the 21st century one can assume their capabilites are limited. And if you then consider that these types nuclear weapons "go bad" after about 15 years without refurbishment/replacement, the nook clock is defintely ticking
That's even assuming that money went where it was intended, which it most certainly did not.
if it were somehow confirmed that russia had zero functional nukes, america would immediately invade them and give them freedom
the problem is that even one nook can cause a lot of damage
>if it were somehow confirmed that russia had zero functional nukes, america would immediately invade them and give them freedom
why didn't america invade somalia?
They've had a year to plan Arctic Storm now, I'd give it 72 hours to the end of effective Russian operations in Ukraine. There'd still be troops there, but they'd either be running for the border or hiding in a hole trying to scream louder than the explosions. From there, I'd expect Russia to be entirely out of Ukraine (minus Crimea) within two weeks tops, and that's accounting for Ukraine doing most of the ground fighting while NATO troops move to the front. It's at this point where I'd expect monke to mash the nook button, since he lives in a world where the strong always eat the weak, and it is only now dawning on him that Russia is very, very weak.
So 2,000 Poles caused Russia to have 200,000+ Casualties?
Jesus Russians are really fucking bad at war.
>bunch of poles go to moscow
>they introduce vore to russians
>they try to fuck off because eating all of them will take centuries
>too fat to return, get killed on the way instead
>russia makes it a holiday
Yeah I believe in those casualties
>muh nato and shieeet
why always NATO? in the past countries like Germany could fight directly against russians.. what happen eurogays? don't you have the balls to rise against some vatmorons?
No kill like overkill
Well, in 2022 Russia launched a war of aggression (I'd say an illegal war of aggression, but it's only illegal in the Russian Criminal Code which according to vatniks doesn't count) that reignited Atlanticist NATO identity, so now people think in terms of NATO and not in terms of its individual members.
>Well, in 2014 Russia launched a war of aggression
>Well, in 2014 Russia had enough of nato glowmoron-led recently couped garden gnomekraine slaughtering ethnic Russians living in the east of Ukraine
Yeah, real counter insurgency is brutal as fuck and doesn't look like that forever war hearts and minds bullshit
>it's only illegal in the Russian Criminal Code
No, it is also clearly illegal according to international law.
European nations have allies, a concept foreign to the Russian mind.
That depends. Without the US NATO chances are pretty bad. Technology is superior, but ammunition stockpiles would not be enough to kill everything. It would be glorious 2 weeks of Russians dying and then there won't any shell to fire.
>NATO has been losing territory
Ukraine is in NATO now? Hold up, I'll call the Poles.
cześć, this is the Poles speaking
don't every phone here again you garden gnome worshiping gay
the cope numbers are the funniest thing of this war
Honestly I do not think conquering Russia in its entirety would really be feasible even with how fucking shitty their military is. There's just so much ground to cover and the defenders always have an advantage.
That being said, NATO would fucking curbstomp the RUAF and would be able to bomb Russia with impunity after wiping out their SAMs. They might be able to keep NATO troops out of some select areas, but they would 100% lose a bunch of territory and would have absolutely no way to get it back.
Russia in its entirety would be easy to conquer actually, cause it's entirely founded on its European side. The rest is totally dependent. Control the biggest cities and main railways, and any serious military resistance evaporates. Russia is simply too big to protect itself
theres no way this is real. so fucking sad
Weight displacement from multiple wheels
The fucker got up holy shit
what the fuck is NAFO you absolute weirdo
Some 4chan discord group
They constantly talk about it, but never explain it
People who like to use Cheems in army gear as their twitter avatars while talking shit about Russia. It's genuinely impressive just how hard they buckbroke the vatniks by just existing.
How is Ukraine in NATO? When did NATO enter into direct fighting with Russia? I fell asleep and this happens? Fuck fuck fuck.
NATO victory in 1-2 years followed by a decade of insurgency if they fuck up the occupation.
The US literally appointed Yeltsin and not one Russian made a peep.
>how fast can NATO steamroll the Russians?
how high (enemy) casualty rate are you willing to accept?
All of them.
I'm a moderate btw.
Most of the damage to Russia's most important things would be done in the first 24 hours. War would probably be one in a couple months purely because of how big Russia is. Japan would probably take part and invade the Kuril islands and retake Karafuto. I'd also expect China remain neutral then join in with the express goal of taking Vladivostok and surrounding territory the second they realize Russia's usefulness is decisively at an end.
Why do vatniks so firmly believe Russia is actually fighting NATO right now? Is that the only way they can rationalize Russia's abysmal performance?
>one instead of won
Apparently I need to go the fuck to sleep.
>Why do vatniks so firmly believe Russia is actually fighting NATO right now? Is that the only way they can rationalize Russia's abysmal performance?
Apparently according to this post
it happened last night you must have been asleep like me, I guess Russia attacked the baltics or Poland? Someone tell us what happened.
Come to think of it, why would NATO even do a land invasion? Russia is fuckhuge and those distances are gonna cause problems no matter how good your logistics are.
The best way of fucking them over is just SEADing the fuck out of all of their air defenses and establishing a no-fly zone.
>I'd also expect China remain neutral
They're not going to destroy their economy for the land of vodka and krokodil.
Has nothing to do with russia and everything to do with nato expanding its border would effectively kill Chinas expansionist goals for this century
I'm guessing you saw "I'd also expect China remain neutral" and didn't bother to read the rest of that same sentence.
Territorial expansion is explicitly why I believe they'd be neutral for a bit. Let the west do the heavy lifting in the earliest days and let them take the full risk of catching a vodka infused nuke that may or may not work. Then invade Russia themselves publicly stating they want to take part in the subjugation of a nuclear belligerent. They end up looking better on the world stage but also have the best claim they've had on large chunks of eastern Russia in a very long time. That's a LOT of potential expansion and may even allow them to reduce tensions by distracting the populace from Taiwan. China only gains from this strategy.
If we 100% know where Putin is?
If we 100% know the defense condition of the Russia's nuclear weapons?(Nukes on auto launch or direct control by key people? Just Putin?)
If the USAF thinks it can send a strike package to drop a tactical nuclear weapon on each HVT and nuclear C&C node?
Is every Russian Boomer accounted for and being stalked?
Maybe a few hours
I just don't think all the required intelligence agencies would give their blessings
>If it comes down to it, how fast can NATO steamroll the Russians?
from go to close 6 minimum 8 hours maximum
>I just don't think all the required intelligence agencies would give their blessings
This would be the biggest kicker.
>how quickly would RU forces be in Warsaw
If they're fighting Ukraine alone, like right now? Considering their pace, in the event that Ukraine doesn't counterattack anymore, it would take about 400-500 years for them to reach Western border of Ukraine.
Well, boys, it's been a good run. I expect the bombs to start dropping now. Making peace with God before the sirens start.
If air superiority can't be reached, it would turn into Bakhmut-style shitfest.
>520 launchers as of september 2019 if you take wikipedia numbers.
>2000 launchers as of who the fuck knows, if you take wiki numbers
I could see it panning out either way, from SEAD being successful to USAF being buck broken in front of the world the same way RuAF was.
those haven't stopped the ukies from launching raids into russia proper
So I wonder how well they would hold up against anything with tech past the 80ies
Every successful raid making international news for days is not the volume you need to win a war, nor is it air superiority.
>to USAF being buck broken in front of the world the same way RuAF was.
I see the angle you're going for, but it's too much of a laughably false equivalence to try and draw parallels between the USAF's forecast effectiveness now versus the VVS' before the invasion.
Even pre-2022 evaluations of the VVS pale *wildly* in comparison to those of the USAF. The USAF has had and still has problems, but none on the scale of what existed prior to 2022 for Russia, let alone what's been revealed in the year since.
tl;dr it's objectively unlikely the USAF falls flat on its face in any way approaching the failure VVS.
Man, I'd wager the Canadian Air Force by itself would do fine-ish against the threat matrix in Ukraine plus SEAD strikes on near-border-targets in Russia proper.
What the fuck are they going to do against invisible F35 you inbred thirdie?
>Vatmoron air defense
>Doing anything VS a Lightning and Raptor vanguard
They didn't do shit in Syria and they wouldn't do anything in Russia either
A few DEAD runs and the 4th gen thousand plane mass raping can be done unimpeded
>NATO establishes air superiority immediately
>war is as good as over
Also, according to CCN
Had to read the title 3 times to understand they weren't saying that Russia suffered 5/6th of its losses in Bakhmut. I need sleep.
72-96 hours to push all Russian forces in Ukraine back to pre-2022 lines
kek vatmoron if you translate a obviously fake document from your subhuman language to polish, it doesn't automatically make it true, especially if it contains schizoshit like:
>zabici intstruktorzy NATO
>zabici zolnierze NATO
What exactly was it he was trying to mime into Kielbasa-talk?
Realistically without shilling for either side, probably 7-12 months. Russia is clearly holding still even though theyre getting shit on. They would find a way it really wouldn't suprise me, but it won't last forever.
The first gulf war is your reference point. That was against peak soviet model army vs peak western military. It has been only downhill since then.
Realistically only thing allowing the delinquent to fuck around right now are da nooks. Without them air campaign would have neutered their teeth since last year
>air campaign would have neutered their teeth since last year
The US could wipe out Russia in less than 30 minutes and all it takes is two nuclear submarines. This is a conservative estimate btw.
>Seeing that NATO has only been losing territory against Russia in Donetsk for months
How many troops will be committed to this "steam roller" ? None of those that attack Mother Russia will return to their homes.
>how fast can NATO steamroll the Russians?
Depends on what you mean by 'steamroll'
Remove their air defenses and air capability? Very quickly.
Conquer territory and hold it?
Much slower, and depends on how motivated russians get seeing Moscow under siege again.
Oh shit war was announced? Damn, where is all the footage of American A-10s mowing down mobiks, then?
If we got enough intelligence to do a couple of decapitation strikes? A year max
This cope number dosen't become reality just because you write it in polish.
NATO is a sort of vague amorphous shape. It is responsible for all Russian failures in Ukraine but simultaneously very weak.
If the Russians didn't have nukes, they would've stopped existing entirely in 1991.
NATO boots in Moscow by midnight, if we invaded at 6pm, and took a 3 hour nap
Depends on how much force the USA alone commits to the fight. Doubt Europe-only NATO would have enough staying power to penetrate deep into Russia. But the USA alone could seize the entire country in weeks.
>NATO losing territory against Russia
Holy fuck I missed the big one and didn't even get drafted? Fucking sucks that you actually have to go out of your way to volunteer to take part in a world war these days.
It took the US 2 weeks to completely annihilate the Iraq army and airforce in desert shield and storm. If given a similarly sized force for an operation in Ukraine, probably a similar timetable.
always hilarious when some dumbfuck vatnik deletes his own cringe out of shame and embarrassment
Just in case anyone's wondering what it was.
God bless you anon.
You have glowmoron mods here now you dumb fuck
there are no glowmoron mods here, there are brigaded and orchestrated vatnik raids though, fuck you and fuck putin
Yet its only the pro-russian comments that are getting deleted somehow.
Because you pro-russian dumbfucks make the worst fucking posts and consistently shit up the board with 4chan-tier schizo nonsense. Shits more acrimonious and ignorant than console wars on fucking /v/
Have you considered that pro Russian comments are bottom of the barrel shitposting? Remember the bioweapon spam that you guys did for a month straight? Remember how you morons shit up the board and flooded it with your SLAVDIE conspiracy theories? That kind of behavior is why your kind gets banned.
>GUYS I WASNT ASHAMED NO REALLY
yeah sure, guess that one stung you, huh?
I'm not the OP nor the other guy, this is my post from yesterday that god deleted by a janny and I don't think the other guy deleted 10 of his posts either
If we’re talking about neutralizing the Russian threat to Ukraine and inflicting serious enough damage to Russian forces to make them a non-threat for the next decades, couple of weeks.
If we’re talking about an actual invasion of Russia, somehow assuming that it doesn’t go nuclear, who knows? I mean, I have no idea what would happen to Russian morale in a situation where the existence of their state is actually non-meme threatened, yet they would know that it would be a fucking horrible rapetrain of a war where they would run out of near-peer -tier equipment real fast and then it would be either desperate waves of raggy soldiers or going guerrilla. I’d assume that NATO victory in military sense would be sure in the near-future timespan, simply because Russians really couldn’t hold the line after VVS gets demolished, but I’d imagine a fucking mess of a guerrilla war as an end result.
The longer the war in Ukraine goes the less time it'd take NATO to conquer Russia.
how fast is a nuke ICBM?
Kindly reminder that USA alone has the capability to destroy ~300 hardened targets anywhere in the world within ~5 hours, without the adversary even knowing what hit them. That's just the first salvo from B-2s with 16 JASSM each. This is enough to decapitate Russian command and control and long range air defences, paving way for a campaign of non stop aerial bombing until they surrender. Russia might be able to hit maybe 20-30 NATO targets with nuclear warheads, but that's it. It would take NATO just a few days to literally annihilate Russia with conventional weapons alone. Don't get me wrong, I'm not too happy about it, I mean fuck Russia, but I don't think it's a healthy situation when one country has such a colossal military advantage over the rest of the world...
Shock and Awe 2.0 basically
In the current state of the RU army? Well, longer than shills would have you believe, but definitely well under a year. Would also depend on the 3rd party involvement (China, India), which could make things stretch a bit.
If this happens, It's probably an attack by Russia on the Baltic states. It'd take some months, but NATO combined would wipe the floor with them. Europe along with US would gear up for war production. You'd have western navies come into play, all of their Air Forces and the millions of soldiers. We'd match them in numbers, but lead in tech when it comes to equipment, intelligence, training. But It'd probably end up with nukes, so everyone loses.
maximum eight hours
>witness my 5000 hours of photoshop
This pretty much sums everything up.
this doesn't even include other allies like SK, Japan, NZ & Australia if shit got into big boy pissing contest.
Looking at things, its literally like having the entirety of the football, lacrosse, and rugby teams vs half the anime club + one dude from the wrestling club.
NATO also has the other half of the anime club.
Armenia, Belarus, Kazakhstan, Kyrgystan, and Tajikstan are not going o fight for the Russians. It is even worse than your post shows
what’s worse - being this, or losing to it?
vatniks really think “gay black trannies pushed us out of Kherson” is a narrative that makes them look macho and tough lol
Its not about how fast. Its about how one sided.
Against the 4th army of the world, it traded at a 1:+100 ratio in men and most kinds of material, and Russia would be much the same. SEAD comes in first, and once people start to draw straws for deciding who will man the AA installation, they'll just leisurely bomb the shit out of every military asset for 3-5 months before they come in with massive combined arms operation and clean out the shellshocked stragglers with minimal losses.
Two weeks obviously
What happened to the bioweapons vatmoron? Answer the question.
If it comes down to it? The tanks are already in Podmoskovye.
>deletes his post out of shame
Another vatmoron classic
Have you considered that maybe you are the one who is wrong?