How the fuck do you even move without suspenders?

I've been wearing suspenders since highschool because otherwise it is impossible to get the crotch of my pants to ride high enough to allow full range of motion in the legs and hips. This is true no matter what kind or brand of pants I'm wearing. There is nothing abnormal about my body or proportions at all. I don't see how other people can do tactical stuff or go hiking with a normal belt, they'd have to be absolutely killing their knees, hips, and back to compensate for not being able to high-step or squat properly without ripping the crotch of their pants, or else they'd have to be constantly pulling their pants up with their hands.

  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I also don't understand how you can possibly wear a gun in the same belt that's holding your pants up unless you are wearing high-waisted pants like Napolean or Aladdin. Modern western pants are not cut high enough for the belt to clear the moving parts of the hip girdle and sit in the proper load bearing point above them (where you would secure the hip strap of a hiking backpack). This also prevents the butt of the gun from being properly concealed in the kidney hollows and moving in tandem with trunk, leading to printing when you bend over. If you are wearing jeans, holding them up with a belt, and carrying a gun in that same belt, I don't see how people are doing that unless they're carrying really really tiny guns or gradually giving themselves crippling joint problems and severely limited mobility in the meantime. I've carried full size pistols for 15 years and I don't see how someone could tolerate carrying a gun like that for more than 15 minutes.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Quality has nothing to do with it. It's the crotch and waist height.

      Can you do a full squat right now without being able to tell that you're wearing anything, and without touching or adjusting your clothing or gear in any way?

      lmao buy pants your actual size, fatass
      >since high school
      Gee I wonder why.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        If I buy pants my size I'll rip the crotch seam in three days max. Drove my mom nuts when I was a kid.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          What do you have a giant ass and quads or something? The only way pants, even shitty pants, should fail at the crotch is from fraying after many years of use. Post a pic, we need to figure this shit out.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            They fail at the crotch because it hangs too low and thus doesn't allow the legs to move freely. The only way to have a low crotch and full range of motion is for the pants to be extremely baggy like harem pants.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              STFU and refer to

              Post body, fatass. I started having the exact same crotch fraying issue when I bought pants "my size" in college. Turns out losing 30kg fixed it.

              you waddling tub of lard.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                He's right and you are ignorant and unimaginative.

                You can visualize the crotch as two triangles with the legs as the hypotenuses and the line perpendicular to the ground to actual crotch as the adjacent side(s), and the more you shorten this line (the more you lower the crotch) the greater the angle (and strain) at the crotch will be for any given length that the feet are spread. On clothing, the seams at the joints need to be hugging the body for optimal movement. I've included a picture of a dancer in a special ballroom tuxedo. See how high the armpits are? Same principle for the crotch.

                I include 5 cm seam allowances in the crotch when I sew, and I raise the seam progressively until I can effortlessly squat. I make no other changes. I know what he's saying is true because I know it empirically.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Bitch I ain't reading all that. Draw a picture.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Sag your pants down like a moron and try to do a split.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >strain
                Unless you've got yoga pants or some shit you ain't gonna see any strain before critical failure, chief. The term you're looking for is stress.

                And no, your pants don't get stressed if they're not too tight.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                This bro is absolutely OBSESSED with his pants. Tell us what gun you carry so we can laugh even more

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >unless you are wearing high-waisted pants like Napolean or Aladdin
      I think that answers your question

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      If you wear your trousers snugly at your natural waist it will basically act as a sort of bottleneck where they won't slip down, because they're cinched at the torso's narrowest point. You must tailor them correctly, however, so that the crotch is as high as possible (essentially all up in your junk) once the waist is fitted.

      I'm a hobby sewist and and have sewn many trousers, and some of the tricks that I've found for facilitating trouser movement with a woven material are: the aforementioned high waist and crotch, a long and particularly slanted back seam, a crotch gusset cut on the bias, a slippery lining, and a slightly elasticated waist.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >he doesn’t dress like Aladdin
      Ngmi

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >This is true no matter what kind or brand of pants I'm wearing.
    nah, you're just wearing shitty pants. buy a pair that's made by a competent clothier. enfin leve is good.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Quality has nothing to do with it. It's the crotch and waist height.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        yes it does. the majority of quality in a garment is how its cut and tailored. cheap clothing is not articulated, or is generally articulated poorly. mass market clothing is designed to be cheap and easy to produce, which means simple patterns that go together sloppily. while individual textiles can have varying benefits to comfort like the addition of stretch, the whole key to comfortable clothes is to have something which was cut for your body.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Which brand of pants are high waisted and high crotched?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            If you have bongsurp in your area get some trousers No.2 dress. Excellent light working trousers.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            enfin leve's ameztu. you can even give them custom measurements to get it exactly as you.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              I'm not 58043523 but do you have any suggestions for actually clothing and not cosplay attire?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >are those tapered cargos?
                >AAAAA!!!! i'm literally going INSAAAANE!!!!
                get over yourself lmfao

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          I believe the blame lays more accurately in the cutting of the patterns. For instance, trousers need a high crotch and jackets need a small armhole high on the shoulder (among other things) to allow natural movement, but bodies vary too much to achieve this type of precise, narrow-tolerance fitting with simple size designations, so concessions are made to accommodate the outliers, resulting in a poor fit, but a fit that the maximum amount of people can actually put on their bodies comfortably.

          You increase revenue this way through a production-line simplification, but the actual construction of an individual 48 long/high/narrow/short/wide/wide&long et.c. wouldn't be any more difficult than an averaged 48.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            That's why I do what people have done for centuries: get oversized clothing and just secure them above the joints with cords and straps as needed.

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >why are my skintight nut huggers so hard to move in guys!?!?!?!?!
    Maybe switch from women's skin tight pants to actual men's clothing, gay.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Can you do a full squat right now without being able to tell that you're wearing anything, and without touching or adjusting your clothing or gear in any way?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        yes (I'm wearing loose sweatpants, why would i wear anything else in my home)

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          That's basically what I wear at all times. Anything else is too restrictive.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah. You either have a fucked up body or wear shitty clothes.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Most men would rather be attractive to women and men than not attractive to anyone, which is what happens when you wear lose clothing. Lose clothing is the like burkas for men.

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    If you wear your trousers snugly at your natural waist it will basically act as a sort of bottleneck where they won't slip down, because they're cinched at the torso's narrowest point. You must tailor them correctly, however, so that the crotch is as high as possible (essentially all up in your junk) once the waist is fitted.

    I'm a hobby sewist and and have sewn many trousers, and some of the tricks that I've found for facilitating trouser movement with a woven material are: the aforementioned high waist and crotch, a long and particularly slanted back seam, a crotch gusset cut on the bias, a slippery lining, and a slightly elasticated waist.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      This, pretty much. The cheaper and simpler solution is to just wear polyester sweats or joggers with suspenders.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      lowered waists is yet another thing nobody asked for, and everyone got. To wear pants at my waist I need a 14 1/2" rise which just isn't offered anywhere outside of custom tailored stores

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I see it every day. People try to pick something up off the ground, they start squatting, but then suddenly their pants get tight in the buttocks and over the knee and they can't continue the squat, so they start bending their backs instead. They do this every day for years and end up basically crippled by the time they're 40. All because of their fucking pants.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >I'm a hobby sewist
      The word is “seamster” or “tailor” you numpty.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        stop bullying me

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >sewist
      Fuck off and learn some proper English.

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    What fucking board am I on right now?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous
    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      have you really never seen a thread about clothing on this board, newfag?
      granted its been some time
      but threads on clothes for general wear has always been a part of PrepHole
      boots in particular.

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    the man in this picture has to be like 5'2"

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >he doesn't wear tactical lingerie that allows him to perfectly conceal a full size pistol, a backup .22lr Ruger LCR, a medical kit, multitool, flashlight, bit set, lockpicks, and data backups (you DO take digital back-ups of your important shit with you everywhere you go, right?) underneath a tucked in shirt and slacks
    LMAO

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      You jest, but if I ever get isekai'd or reincarnated as a little girl, I will wear some bullshit poofy /cgl/ dress and CC an MP5 with like 5 extra mags.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        A maid dress is perfect and stylish for concealing wraponry or grenades. Battle maids are very cool.

        ?t=177

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >Battle maids are very cool
          They're metal too.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >reincarnated as a little girl, I will wear some bullshit poofy /cgl/ dress
        You are my kind or man.

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Fasteners attached to belt loops
    Hope this isn't you, Anon.

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Belt.

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Bro you can unironically get your shittu blue genes fitted to you if it's that big of a deal. Doesn't cost much any men's suit store will do it

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      He doesn't need shit fitted. 99% likely OP simply went from having a 32inch teenager waist to 38inch skinnyfat pearbody and never bothered to update his clothing selection algorithm

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Increasing the waist size doesn't increase the waist or crotch height.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah it does in shop pants.

          If I buy pants my size I'll rip the crotch seam in three days max. Drove my mom nuts when I was a kid.

          You don't seem to understand what "your size" means

          Post body.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            You're not understanding the issue here and probably didn't actually read my posts. "Size" has nothing to do with anything. It's the crotch and waist height.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Post body, fatass. I started having the exact same crotch fraying issue when I bought pants "my size" in college. Turns out losing 30kg fixed it.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I'm 175 pounds and in excellent physical condition. I do not, under any circumstances, post personal photos on the internet.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >175 pounds
                At what height? You can easily be a fat fuck at this weight under like 6'2"

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I'm 5'11" and very muscular, very little body fat. I haven't had any kind of weight problem since I was like 12 years old. My job is very physically demanding and I'm also an avid hiker, which is precisely why I'm extremely particular about how my clothes fit me. Regardless, the issue here is the way that modern clothing is designed.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I feel like no one’s actually 5’11”, always some manlet trying to squeeze another inch or two in.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Are you 5'2"?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I'm 6'4" and currently ~167lbs.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Your 40 pounds underweight dude wtf

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >There is nothing abnormal about my body or proportions at all.
                >167lbs

                Stupid motherfucker

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                moron, gain some weight. You're literally a skinwalker.

                >OP literally has a healthy BMI
                >Amerilards stunned

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                BMI's are not always accurate. The dude need to eat some protein and gain some muscle.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                moron, gain some weight. You're literally a skinwalker.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Since this is PrepHole I will assume you're 5'9" and therefore clinically overweight.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >175 pounds
                At what height? You can easily be a fat fuck at this weight under like 6'2"

                STFU and refer to [...] you waddling tub of lard.

                Post body, fatass. I started having the exact same crotch fraying issue when I bought pants "my size" in college. Turns out losing 30kg fixed it.

                Do a squat in the pants you wear every day, WITHOUT TOUCHING YOURSELF.

                I guaran fucking tee you can't do it. The reason you can't do is because you have the EXACT SAME problems that I do but you're not aware of it because you don't hike.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                stop jacking off

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Plenty of people hike just fine without wearing suspenders you sperg

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                They're

                > Not carrying guns, which exacerbates all issues with pants fit.

                > Wearing gym shorts on touristy mosquito-treated beaten trails.

                > Only hiking once or twice a year.

                > Destroying their joints.

                > Constantly fiddling with their clothes and gear.

                > Nowhere near as mobile as I am even though they're carrying half the weight in gear.

                My opinions come from decades of daily immersion.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                their joints.
                pure copeium

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Post body pic. you're either obese or wearing skinny jeans.
    My gusseted pants and steelcore belt have no problems.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      You don't hike.

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    you're just queer as fuck, and if that's really your picture doubly so, you have a sweaty half naked italian tattooed onto your arm

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    > I've been wearing suspenders since highschool

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous
  14. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    dude youre not supposed to wear a belt AND suspenders its one or the other you fucking autist

  15. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >I've been wearing suspenders since highschool because otherwise it is impossible to get the crotch of my pants to ride high enough

    You must have been drowning in puss

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I've always worn them under my shirt. Otherwise I couldn't conceal weapons.

  16. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >since highschool
    Be honest OP, have you felt the touch of a woman yet?

  17. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    obesity: the thread

  18. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I unironically have two pairs of Jocko "eat ground glass...good" jeans and they are unironically the best fitting and most comfortable jeans I own. I think I paid like 80-90 bucks a pair, but made in Murica by real eagles.

  19. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Forgot pic, because presumably none of you actually know proper squat form.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      The left is standard squat form when you're just crouching down and resting. Look at every single chink and slav ever. There's nothing wrong with it at all as long as you don't have 300lbs on your back while doing it. And in both of those positions he isn't going low enough - your hamstrings should be in full contact with your calves and your ass should be near your ankles.

  20. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I wear a belt and have a butt.

  21. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I have a nice butt so my pants naturally ride correctly

  22. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >itt: OP can't wear pants right.

  23. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    You sound and look based as fuck. You make me want to try suspenders too. I bet they would also work really well with a shoulder holster, which I've never tried but is probably the only way I would ever carry a full size handgun.

    PrepHole has this retarded obsession where everyone should carry the biggest gun possible while wearing jeans and a belt and jacket. It's hot and humid where I live. I wear above the knee shorts and a thin tshirt every day with a subcompact carried in a sort of bellyband holster. I can do whatever PrepHole shit I want at any time, while most posters here couldn't run a mile naked.

    Have you tried wearing an undershirt, suspenders over that, and a shirt over the suspenders so they aren't visible but aren't rubbing on your skin? That would make it hard to tuck in your shirt though. If that's not viable then just keep wearing them like that and own it. Hit the gym for chest/shoulders/lats and you would look even better with them on.

  24. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I feel you man.

  25. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    If you are going to wear suspenders then at the very least wear a shoulder rig.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      This looks like one strap or buckle away from something you wear to the Monkey Pox party.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        You wear the bracers on lederhosen and get rid of the shirt.

  26. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Only fatfucks and hipsters wear suspenders

  27. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Suspenders are pretty comfy tbh. Its nice not having a belt digging in to your hips when you're moving about a lot. I don't actually have any suspenders but the ones I have for my milsurp Bundeswehr gear, though, so belts and jeans it is for me.

  28. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    It's called a belt

  29. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    You're wearing your pants too low. Pants stay up because you set your belt to be snug against your waist and your hips should be wider than your waist. Thus your belt rests atop your hips and no matter how much movement you do or how heavy your gun belt you pants physically cannot slide down. Your true waist is just above your belly button. Buy pants with a longer inseam and wear them higher.

  30. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Dont lie, you just like snapping them

  31. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    By not being fat and having hips.

  32. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >that double chin
    yeah you look like you've been weraing them since hs

  33. 1 month ago
    Anonymous
  34. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    t. can't even trust his own pants

  35. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >There is nothing abnormal about my body or proportions at all
    He says after declaring that he has an issue that 99% of the population doesn't have.

  36. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    nerd

  37. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    i started wearing sideclip trucker suspenders instead of a belt a few years ago and i'll never go back. so much more comfortable

  38. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    are you a skinhead or something

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >are you a skinhead or something
      No, he might actually be based if he were.

  39. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >belt and suspenders

    how can you trust a man who wont even trust his own pants

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

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