I've been wearing suspenders since highschool because otherwise it is impossible to get the crotch of my pants to ride high enough to allow full range of motion in the legs and hips. This is true no matter what kind or brand of pants I'm wearing. There is nothing abnormal about my body or proportions at all. I don't see how other people can do tactical stuff or go hiking with a normal belt, they'd have to be absolutely killing their knees, hips, and back to compensate for not being able to high-step or squat properly without ripping the crotch of their pants, or else they'd have to be constantly pulling their pants up with their hands.
I also don't understand how you can possibly wear a gun in the same belt that's holding your pants up unless you are wearing high-waisted pants like Napolean or Aladdin. Modern western pants are not cut high enough for the belt to clear the moving parts of the hip girdle and sit in the proper load bearing point above them (where you would secure the hip strap of a hiking backpack). This also prevents the butt of the gun from being properly concealed in the kidney hollows and moving in tandem with trunk, leading to printing when you bend over. If you are wearing jeans, holding them up with a belt, and carrying a gun in that same belt, I don't see how people are doing that unless they're carrying really really tiny guns or gradually giving themselves crippling joint problems and severely limited mobility in the meantime. I've carried full size pistols for 15 years and I don't see how someone could tolerate carrying a gun like that for more than 15 minutes.
lmao buy pants your actual size, fatass
>since high school
Gee I wonder why.
If I buy pants my size I'll rip the crotch seam in three days max. Drove my mom nuts when I was a kid.
What do you have a giant ass and quads or something? The only way pants, even shitty pants, should fail at the crotch is from fraying after many years of use. Post a pic, we need to figure this shit out.
They fail at the crotch because it hangs too low and thus doesn't allow the legs to move freely. The only way to have a low crotch and full range of motion is for the pants to be extremely baggy like harem pants.
STFU and refer to
you waddling tub of lard.
He's right and you are ignorant and unimaginative.
You can visualize the crotch as two triangles with the legs as the hypotenuses and the line perpendicular to the ground to actual crotch as the adjacent side(s), and the more you shorten this line (the more you lower the crotch) the greater the angle (and strain) at the crotch will be for any given length that the feet are spread. On clothing, the seams at the joints need to be hugging the body for optimal movement. I've included a picture of a dancer in a special ballroom tuxedo. See how high the armpits are? Same principle for the crotch.
I include 5 cm seam allowances in the crotch when I sew, and I raise the seam progressively until I can effortlessly squat. I make no other changes. I know what he's saying is true because I know it empirically.
Bitch I ain't reading all that. Draw a picture.
Sag your pants down like a moron and try to do a split.
Unless you've got yoga pants or some shit you ain't gonna see any strain before critical failure, chief. The term you're looking for is stress.
And no, your pants don't get stressed if they're not too tight.
This bro is absolutely OBSESSED with his pants. Tell us what gun you carry so we can laugh even more
>unless you are wearing high-waisted pants like Napolean or Aladdin
I think that answers your question
>he doesn’t dress like Aladdin
>This is true no matter what kind or brand of pants I'm wearing.
nah, you're just wearing shitty pants. buy a pair that's made by a competent clothier. enfin leve is good.
Quality has nothing to do with it. It's the crotch and waist height.
yes it does. the majority of quality in a garment is how its cut and tailored. cheap clothing is not articulated, or is generally articulated poorly. mass market clothing is designed to be cheap and easy to produce, which means simple patterns that go together sloppily. while individual textiles can have varying benefits to comfort like the addition of stretch, the whole key to comfortable clothes is to have something which was cut for your body.
Which brand of pants are high waisted and high crotched?
If you have bongsurp in your area get some trousers No.2 dress. Excellent light working trousers.
enfin leve's ameztu. you can even give them custom measurements to get it exactly as you.
I'm not 58043523 but do you have any suggestions for actually clothing and not cosplay attire?
>are those tapered cargos?
>AAAAA!!!! i'm literally going INSAAAANE!!!!
get over yourself lmfao
I believe the blame lays more accurately in the cutting of the patterns. For instance, trousers need a high crotch and jackets need a small armhole high on the shoulder (among other things) to allow natural movement, but bodies vary too much to achieve this type of precise, narrow-tolerance fitting with simple size designations, so concessions are made to accommodate the outliers, resulting in a poor fit, but a fit that the maximum amount of people can actually put on their bodies comfortably.
You increase revenue this way through a production-line simplification, but the actual construction of an individual 48 long/high/narrow/short/wide/wide&long et.c. wouldn't be any more difficult than an averaged 48.
That's why I do what people have done for centuries: get oversized clothing and just secure them above the joints with cords and straps as needed.
>why are my skintight nut huggers so hard to move in guys!?!?!?!?!
Maybe switch from women's skin tight pants to actual men's clothing, gay.
Can you do a full squat right now without being able to tell that you're wearing anything, and without touching or adjusting your clothing or gear in any way?
yes (I'm wearing loose sweatpants, why would i wear anything else in my home)
That's basically what I wear at all times. Anything else is too restrictive.
Yeah. You either have a fucked up body or wear shitty clothes.
Most men would rather be attractive to women and men than not attractive to anyone, which is what happens when you wear lose clothing. Lose clothing is the like burkas for men.
If you wear your trousers snugly at your natural waist it will basically act as a sort of bottleneck where they won't slip down, because they're cinched at the torso's narrowest point. You must tailor them correctly, however, so that the crotch is as high as possible (essentially all up in your junk) once the waist is fitted.
I'm a hobby sewist and and have sewn many trousers, and some of the tricks that I've found for facilitating trouser movement with a woven material are: the aforementioned high waist and crotch, a long and particularly slanted back seam, a crotch gusset cut on the bias, a slippery lining, and a slightly elasticated waist.
This, pretty much. The cheaper and simpler solution is to just wear polyester sweats or joggers with suspenders.
lowered waists is yet another thing nobody asked for, and everyone got. To wear pants at my waist I need a 14 1/2" rise which just isn't offered anywhere outside of custom tailored stores
I see it every day. People try to pick something up off the ground, they start squatting, but then suddenly their pants get tight in the buttocks and over the knee and they can't continue the squat, so they start bending their backs instead. They do this every day for years and end up basically crippled by the time they're 40. All because of their fucking pants.
>I'm a hobby sewist
The word is “seamster” or “tailor” you numpty.
stop bullying me
Fuck off and learn some proper English.
What fucking board am I on right now?
have you really never seen a thread about clothing on this board, newfag?
granted its been some time
but threads on clothes for general wear has always been a part of PrepHole
boots in particular.
the man in this picture has to be like 5'2"
>he doesn't wear tactical lingerie that allows him to perfectly conceal a full size pistol, a backup .22lr Ruger LCR, a medical kit, multitool, flashlight, bit set, lockpicks, and data backups (you DO take digital back-ups of your important shit with you everywhere you go, right?) underneath a tucked in shirt and slacks
You jest, but if I ever get isekai'd or reincarnated as a little girl, I will wear some bullshit poofy /cgl/ dress and CC an MP5 with like 5 extra mags.
A maid dress is perfect and stylish for concealing wraponry or grenades. Battle maids are very cool.
>Battle maids are very cool
They're metal too.
>reincarnated as a little girl, I will wear some bullshit poofy /cgl/ dress
You are my kind or man.
>Fasteners attached to belt loops
Hope this isn't you, Anon.
Bro you can unironically get your shittu blue genes fitted to you if it's that big of a deal. Doesn't cost much any men's suit store will do it
He doesn't need shit fitted. 99% likely OP simply went from having a 32inch teenager waist to 38inch skinnyfat pearbody and never bothered to update his clothing selection algorithm
Increasing the waist size doesn't increase the waist or crotch height.
Yeah it does in shop pants.
You don't seem to understand what "your size" means
You're not understanding the issue here and probably didn't actually read my posts. "Size" has nothing to do with anything. It's the crotch and waist height.
Post body, fatass. I started having the exact same crotch fraying issue when I bought pants "my size" in college. Turns out losing 30kg fixed it.
I'm 175 pounds and in excellent physical condition. I do not, under any circumstances, post personal photos on the internet.
At what height? You can easily be a fat fuck at this weight under like 6'2"
I'm 5'11" and very muscular, very little body fat. I haven't had any kind of weight problem since I was like 12 years old. My job is very physically demanding and I'm also an avid hiker, which is precisely why I'm extremely particular about how my clothes fit me. Regardless, the issue here is the way that modern clothing is designed.
I feel like no one’s actually 5’11”, always some manlet trying to squeeze another inch or two in.
Are you 5'2"?
I'm 6'4" and currently ~167lbs.
Your 40 pounds underweight dude wtf
>There is nothing abnormal about my body or proportions at all.
>OP literally has a healthy BMI
BMI's are not always accurate. The dude need to eat some protein and gain some muscle.
moron, gain some weight. You're literally a skinwalker.
Since this is PrepHole I will assume you're 5'9" and therefore clinically overweight.
Do a squat in the pants you wear every day, WITHOUT TOUCHING YOURSELF.
I guaran fucking tee you can't do it. The reason you can't do is because you have the EXACT SAME problems that I do but you're not aware of it because you don't hike.
stop jacking off
Plenty of people hike just fine without wearing suspenders you sperg
> Not carrying guns, which exacerbates all issues with pants fit.
> Wearing gym shorts on touristy mosquito-treated beaten trails.
> Only hiking once or twice a year.
> Destroying their joints.
> Constantly fiddling with their clothes and gear.
> Nowhere near as mobile as I am even though they're carrying half the weight in gear.
My opinions come from decades of daily immersion.
Post body pic. you're either obese or wearing skinny jeans.
My gusseted pants and steelcore belt have no problems.
You don't hike.
you're just queer as fuck, and if that's really your picture doubly so, you have a sweaty half naked italian tattooed onto your arm
> I've been wearing suspenders since highschool
dude youre not supposed to wear a belt AND suspenders its one or the other you fucking autist
>I've been wearing suspenders since highschool because otherwise it is impossible to get the crotch of my pants to ride high enough
You must have been drowning in puss
I've always worn them under my shirt. Otherwise I couldn't conceal weapons.
Be honest OP, have you felt the touch of a woman yet?
obesity: the thread
I unironically have two pairs of Jocko "eat ground glass...good" jeans and they are unironically the best fitting and most comfortable jeans I own. I think I paid like 80-90 bucks a pair, but made in Murica by real eagles.
Forgot pic, because presumably none of you actually know proper squat form.
The left is standard squat form when you're just crouching down and resting. Look at every single chink and slav ever. There's nothing wrong with it at all as long as you don't have 300lbs on your back while doing it. And in both of those positions he isn't going low enough - your hamstrings should be in full contact with your calves and your ass should be near your ankles.
I wear a belt and have a butt.
I have a nice butt so my pants naturally ride correctly
>itt: OP can't wear pants right.
You sound and look based as fuck. You make me want to try suspenders too. I bet they would also work really well with a shoulder holster, which I've never tried but is probably the only way I would ever carry a full size handgun.
PrepHole has this retarded obsession where everyone should carry the biggest gun possible while wearing jeans and a belt and jacket. It's hot and humid where I live. I wear above the knee shorts and a thin tshirt every day with a subcompact carried in a sort of bellyband holster. I can do whatever PrepHole shit I want at any time, while most posters here couldn't run a mile naked.
Have you tried wearing an undershirt, suspenders over that, and a shirt over the suspenders so they aren't visible but aren't rubbing on your skin? That would make it hard to tuck in your shirt though. If that's not viable then just keep wearing them like that and own it. Hit the gym for chest/shoulders/lats and you would look even better with them on.
I feel you man.
If you are going to wear suspenders then at the very least wear a shoulder rig.
This looks like one strap or buckle away from something you wear to the Monkey Pox party.
You wear the bracers on lederhosen and get rid of the shirt.
Only fatfucks and hipsters wear suspenders
Suspenders are pretty comfy tbh. Its nice not having a belt digging in to your hips when you're moving about a lot. I don't actually have any suspenders but the ones I have for my milsurp Bundeswehr gear, though, so belts and jeans it is for me.
It's called a belt
You're wearing your pants too low. Pants stay up because you set your belt to be snug against your waist and your hips should be wider than your waist. Thus your belt rests atop your hips and no matter how much movement you do or how heavy your gun belt you pants physically cannot slide down. Your true waist is just above your belly button. Buy pants with a longer inseam and wear them higher.
Dont lie, you just like snapping them
By not being fat and having hips.
>that double chin
yeah you look like you've been weraing them since hs
t. can't even trust his own pants
>There is nothing abnormal about my body or proportions at all
He says after declaring that he has an issue that 99% of the population doesn't have.
i started wearing sideclip trucker suspenders instead of a belt a few years ago and i'll never go back. so much more comfortable
are you a skinhead or something
>are you a skinhead or something
No, he might actually be based if he were.
>belt and suspenders
how can you trust a man who wont even trust his own pants