How the fuck do you even move without suspenders?

I've been wearing suspenders since highschool because otherwise it is impossible to get the crotch of my pants to ride high enough to allow full range of motion in the legs and hips. This is true no matter what kind or brand of pants I'm wearing. There is nothing abnormal about my body or proportions at all. I don't see how other people can do tactical stuff or go hiking with a normal belt, they'd have to be absolutely killing their knees, hips, and back to compensate for not being able to high-step or squat properly without ripping the crotch of their pants, or else they'd have to be constantly pulling their pants up with their hands.

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  1. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    I also don't understand how you can possibly wear a gun in the same belt that's holding your pants up unless you are wearing high-waisted pants like Napolean or Aladdin. Modern western pants are not cut high enough for the belt to clear the moving parts of the hip girdle and sit in the proper load bearing point above them (where you would secure the hip strap of a hiking backpack). This also prevents the butt of the gun from being properly concealed in the kidney hollows and moving in tandem with trunk, leading to printing when you bend over. If you are wearing jeans, holding them up with a belt, and carrying a gun in that same belt, I don't see how people are doing that unless they're carrying really really tiny guns or gradually giving themselves crippling joint problems and severely limited mobility in the meantime. I've carried full size pistols for 15 years and I don't see how someone could tolerate carrying a gun like that for more than 15 minutes.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Quality has nothing to do with it. It's the crotch and waist height.

      Can you do a full squat right now without being able to tell that you're wearing anything, and without touching or adjusting your clothing or gear in any way?

      lmao buy pants your actual size, fatass
      >since high school
      Gee I wonder why.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        If I buy pants my size I'll rip the crotch seam in three days max. Drove my mom nuts when I was a kid.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          What do you have a giant ass and quads or something? The only way pants, even shitty pants, should fail at the crotch is from fraying after many years of use. Post a pic, we need to figure this shit out.

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            They fail at the crotch because it hangs too low and thus doesn't allow the legs to move freely. The only way to have a low crotch and full range of motion is for the pants to be extremely baggy like harem pants.

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              STFU and refer to

              Post body, fatass. I started having the exact same crotch fraying issue when I bought pants "my size" in college. Turns out losing 30kg fixed it.

              you waddling tub of lard.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                He's right and you are ignorant and unimaginative.

                You can visualize the crotch as two triangles with the legs as the hypotenuses and the line perpendicular to the ground to actual crotch as the adjacent side(s), and the more you shorten this line (the more you lower the crotch) the greater the angle (and strain) at the crotch will be for any given length that the feet are spread. On clothing, the seams at the joints need to be hugging the body for optimal movement. I've included a picture of a dancer in a special ballroom tuxedo. See how high the armpits are? Same principle for the crotch.

                I include 5 cm seam allowances in the crotch when I sew, and I raise the seam progressively until I can effortlessly squat. I make no other changes. I know what he's saying is true because I know it empirically.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                b***h I ain't reading all that. Draw a picture.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Sag your pants down like a Black person and try to do a split.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                >strain
                Unless you've got yoga pants or some shit you ain't gonna see any strain before critical failure, chief. The term you're looking for is stress.

                And no, your pants don't get stressed if they're not too tight.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                This homie is absolutely OBSESSED with his pants. Tell us what gun you carry so we can laugh even more

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >unless you are wearing high-waisted pants like Napolean or Aladdin
      I think that answers your question

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      If you wear your trousers snugly at your natural waist it will basically act as a sort of bottleneck where they won't slip down, because they're cinched at the torso's narrowest point. You must tailor them correctly, however, so that the crotch is as high as possible (essentially all up in your junk) once the waist is fitted.

      I'm a hobby sewist and and have sewn many trousers, and some of the tricks that I've found for facilitating trouser movement with a woven material are: the aforementioned high waist and crotch, a long and particularly slanted back seam, a crotch gusset cut on the bias, a slippery lining, and a slightly elasticated waist.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >he doesn’t dress like Aladdin
      Ngmi

  2. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >This is true no matter what kind or brand of pants I'm wearing.
    nah, you're just wearing shitty pants. buy a pair that's made by a competent clothier. enfin leve is good.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Quality has nothing to do with it. It's the crotch and waist height.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        yes it does. the majority of quality in a garment is how its cut and tailored. cheap clothing is not articulated, or is generally articulated poorly. mass market clothing is designed to be cheap and easy to produce, which means simple patterns that go together sloppily. while individual textiles can have varying benefits to comfort like the addition of stretch, the whole key to comfortable clothes is to have something which was cut for your body.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          Which brand of pants are high waisted and high crotched?

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            If you have bongsurp in your area get some trousers No.2 dress. Excellent light working trousers.

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            enfin leve's ameztu. you can even give them custom measurements to get it exactly as you.

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              I'm not 58043523 but do you have any suggestions for actually clothing and not cosplay attire?

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                >are those tapered cargos?
                >AAAAA!!!! i'm literally going INSAAAANE!!!!
                get over yourself lmfao

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          I believe the blame lays more accurately in the cutting of the patterns. For instance, trousers need a high crotch and jackets need a small armhole high on the shoulder (among other things) to allow natural movement, but bodies vary too much to achieve this type of precise, narrow-tolerance fitting with simple size designations, so concessions are made to accommodate the outliers, resulting in a poor fit, but a fit that the maximum amount of people can actually put on their bodies comfortably.

          You increase revenue this way through a production-line simplification, but the actual construction of an individual 48 long/high/narrow/short/wide/wide&long et.c. wouldn't be any more difficult than an averaged 48.

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            That's why I do what people have done for centuries: get oversized clothing and just secure them above the joints with cords and straps as needed.

  3. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >why are my skintight nut huggers so hard to move in guys!?!?!?!?!
    Maybe switch from women's skin tight pants to actual men's clothing, homosexual.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Can you do a full squat right now without being able to tell that you're wearing anything, and without touching or adjusting your clothing or gear in any way?

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        yes (I'm wearing loose sweatpants, why would i wear anything else in my home)

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          That's basically what I wear at all times. Anything else is too restrictive.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah. You either have a fricked up body or wear shitty clothes.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Most men would rather be attractive to women and men than not attractive to anyone, which is what happens when you wear lose clothing. Lose clothing is the like burkas for men.

  4. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    If you wear your trousers snugly at your natural waist it will basically act as a sort of bottleneck where they won't slip down, because they're cinched at the torso's narrowest point. You must tailor them correctly, however, so that the crotch is as high as possible (essentially all up in your junk) once the waist is fitted.

    I'm a hobby sewist and and have sewn many trousers, and some of the tricks that I've found for facilitating trouser movement with a woven material are: the aforementioned high waist and crotch, a long and particularly slanted back seam, a crotch gusset cut on the bias, a slippery lining, and a slightly elasticated waist.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      This, pretty much. The cheaper and simpler solution is to just wear polyester sweats or joggers with suspenders.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      lowered waists is yet another thing nobody asked for, and everyone got. To wear pants at my waist I need a 14 1/2" rise which just isn't offered anywhere outside of custom tailored stores

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        I see it every day. People try to pick something up off the ground, they start squatting, but then suddenly their pants get tight in the buttocks and over the knee and they can't continue the squat, so they start bending their backs instead. They do this every day for years and end up basically crippled by the time they're 40. All because of their fricking pants.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >I'm a hobby sewist
      The word is “seamster” or “tailor” you numpty.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        stop bullying me

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >sewist
      Frick off and learn some proper English.

  5. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    What fricking board am I on right now?

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous
    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      have you really never seen a thread about clothing on this board, newbie?
      granted its been some time
      but threads on clothes for general wear has always been a part of /k/
      boots in particular.

  6. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    the man in this picture has to be like 5'2"

  7. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >he doesn't wear tactical lingerie that allows him to perfectly conceal a full size pistol, a backup .22lr Ruger LCR, a medical kit, multitool, flashlight, bit set, lockpicks, and data backups (you DO take digital back-ups of your important shit with you everywhere you go, right?) underneath a tucked in shirt and slacks
    LMAO

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      You jest, but if I ever get isekai'd or reincarnated as a little girl, I will wear some bullshit poofy /cgl/ dress and CC an MP5 with like 5 extra mags.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        A maid dress is perfect and stylish for concealing wraponry or grenades. Battle maids are very cool.

        ?t=177

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Battle maids are very cool
          They're metal too.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        >reincarnated as a little girl, I will wear some bullshit poofy /cgl/ dress
        You are my kind or man.

  8. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Fasteners attached to belt loops
    Hope this isn't you, Anon.

  9. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Belt.

  10. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Bro you can unironically get your shittu blue genes fitted to you if it's that big of a deal. Doesn't cost much any men's suit store will do it

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      He doesn't need shit fitted. 99% likely OP simply went from having a 32inch teenager waist to 38inch skinnyfat pearbody and never bothered to update his clothing selection algorithm

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Increasing the waist size doesn't increase the waist or crotch height.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah it does in shop pants.

          If I buy pants my size I'll rip the crotch seam in three days max. Drove my mom nuts when I was a kid.

          You don't seem to understand what "your size" means

          Post body.

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            You're not understanding the issue here and probably didn't actually read my posts. "Size" has nothing to do with anything. It's the crotch and waist height.

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              Post body, fatass. I started having the exact same crotch fraying issue when I bought pants "my size" in college. Turns out losing 30kg fixed it.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                I'm 175 pounds and in excellent physical condition. I do not, under any circumstances, post personal photos on the internet.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                >175 pounds
                At what height? You can easily be a fat frick at this weight under like 6'2"

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                I'm 5'11" and very muscular, very little body fat. I haven't had any kind of weight problem since I was like 12 years old. My job is very physically demanding and I'm also an avid hiker, which is precisely why I'm extremely particular about how my clothes fit me. Regardless, the issue here is the way that modern clothing is designed.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                I feel like no one’s actually 5’11”, always some manlet trying to squeeze another inch or two in.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Are you 5'2"?

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                I'm 6'4" and currently ~167lbs.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Your 40 pounds underweight dude wtf

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                >There is nothing abnormal about my body or proportions at all.
                >167lbs

                Stupid motherfricker

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Black person, gain some weight. You're literally a skinwalker.

                >OP literally has a healthy BMI
                >Amerilards stunned

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                BMI's are not always accurate. The dude need to eat some protein and gain some muscle.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Black person, gain some weight. You're literally a skinwalker.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Since this is PrepHole I will assume you're 5'9" and therefore clinically overweight.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                >175 pounds
                At what height? You can easily be a fat frick at this weight under like 6'2"

                STFU and refer to [...] you waddling tub of lard.

                Post body, fatass. I started having the exact same crotch fraying issue when I bought pants "my size" in college. Turns out losing 30kg fixed it.

                Do a squat in the pants you wear every day, WITHOUT TOUCHING YOURSELF.

                I guaran fricking tee you can't do it. The reason you can't do is because you have the EXACT SAME problems that I do but you're not aware of it because you don't hike.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                stop jacking off

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Plenty of people hike just fine without wearing suspenders you sperg

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                They're

                > Not carrying guns, which exacerbates all issues with pants fit.

                > Wearing gym shorts on touristy mosquito-treated beaten trails.

                > Only hiking once or twice a year.

                > Destroying their joints.

                > Constantly fiddling with their clothes and gear.

                > Nowhere near as mobile as I am even though they're carrying half the weight in gear.

                My opinions come from decades of daily immersion.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                their joints.
                pure copeium

  11. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Post body pic. you're either obese or wearing skinny jeans.
    My gusseted pants and steelcore belt have no problems.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      You don't hike.

  12. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    you're just queer as frick, and if that's really your picture doubly so, you have a sweaty half naked italian tattooed onto your arm

  13. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    > I've been wearing suspenders since highschool

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous
  14. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    dude youre not supposed to wear a belt AND suspenders its one or the other you fricking autist

  15. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >I've been wearing suspenders since highschool because otherwise it is impossible to get the crotch of my pants to ride high enough

    You must have been drowning in puss

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      I've always worn them under my shirt. Otherwise I couldn't conceal weapons.

  16. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >since highschool
    Be honest OP, have you felt the touch of a woman yet?

  17. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    obesity: the thread

  18. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    I unironically have two pairs of Jocko "eat ground glass...good" jeans and they are unironically the best fitting and most comfortable jeans I own. I think I paid like 80-90 bucks a pair, but made in Murica by real eagles.

  19. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Forgot pic, because presumably none of you actually know proper squat form.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      The left is standard squat form when you're just crouching down and resting. Look at every single chink and slav ever. There's nothing wrong with it at all as long as you don't have 300lbs on your back while doing it. And in both of those positions he isn't going low enough - your hamstrings should be in full contact with your calves and your ass should be near your ankles.

  20. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    I wear a belt and have a butt.

  21. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    I have a nice butt so my pants naturally ride correctly

  22. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >itt: OP can't wear pants right.

  23. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    You sound and look based as frick. You make me want to try suspenders too. I bet they would also work really well with a shoulder holster, which I've never tried but is probably the only way I would ever carry a full size handgun.

    /k/ has this moronic obsession where everyone should carry the biggest gun possible while wearing jeans and a belt and jacket. It's hot and humid where I live. I wear above the knee shorts and a thin tshirt every day with a subcompact carried in a sort of bellyband holster. I can do whatever PrepHole shit I want at any time, while most posters here couldn't run a mile naked.

    Have you tried wearing an undershirt, suspenders over that, and a shirt over the suspenders so they aren't visible but aren't rubbing on your skin? That would make it hard to tuck in your shirt though. If that's not viable then just keep wearing them like that and own it. Hit the gym for chest/shoulders/lats and you would look even better with them on.

  24. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    I feel you man.

  25. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    If you are going to wear suspenders then at the very least wear a shoulder rig.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      This looks like one strap or buckle away from something you wear to the Monkey Pox party.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        You wear the bracers on lederhosen and get rid of the shirt.

  26. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Only fatfricks and hipsters wear suspenders

  27. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Suspenders are pretty comfy tbh. Its nice not having a belt digging in to your hips when you're moving about a lot. I don't actually have any suspenders but the ones I have for my milsurp Bundeswehr gear, though, so belts and jeans it is for me.

  28. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    It's called a belt

  29. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    You're wearing your pants too low. Pants stay up because you set your belt to be snug against your waist and your hips should be wider than your waist. Thus your belt rests atop your hips and no matter how much movement you do or how heavy your gun belt you pants physically cannot slide down. Your true waist is just above your belly button. Buy pants with a longer inseam and wear them higher.

  30. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Dont lie, you just like snapping them

  31. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    By not being fat and having hips.

  32. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >that double chin
    yeah you look like you've been weraing them since hs

  33. 11 months ago
    Anonymous
  34. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    t. can't even trust his own pants

  35. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >There is nothing abnormal about my body or proportions at all
    He says after declaring that he has an issue that 99% of the population doesn't have.

  36. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    nerd

  37. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    i started wearing sideclip trucker suspenders instead of a belt a few years ago and i'll never go back. so much more comfortable

  38. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    are you a skinhead or something

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >are you a skinhead or something
      No, he might actually be based if he were.

  39. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >belt and suspenders

    how can you trust a man who wont even trust his own pants

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

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