how much does being in shape matter in a gun fight?

how much does being in shape matter in a gun fight?

  1. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    yeah

  2. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Zero

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous
      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Slow is smooth and smooth is fast.

        That's a real operator right there.

  3. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    condition of thinking muscle is critical

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It doesn't, get shot in the face fat or skinny you die. However don't be a disgusting fat body.

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The point of a gun is to give violent power to the weak and upset the strength monopoly.
    But realistically, those that train with the gun > any other type of physical training.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You have to get a gun from point 'a' to point 'b'
      When you are using the gun you may discover where you are standing is sub optimal
      Armor is heavy. Water is heavy. Ammo is heavy.
      IT FUCKING MATTERS

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        lmao how many civilians are getting into gun fights with body armor on, a full load of ammo, and camelbacks/canteens?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          All of them unless they want to die, dehydrate, or assume the fight is going to conveniently be 50 yards outside their bedroom window.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >assume the fight is going to conveniently be 50 yards outside their bedroom window
            That's literally what you have to do to put any stock in your schizoid beliefs, in the real world if a civilian gets into a gunfight they won't be carrying this shit around or even have the time to put it on.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            But gun owners largely draw in self-defence during unexpected attacks. Someone who's geared up that well is far likelier to be attacking than defending.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          bitch we are talking a shootout at the local walmart not active military combat scenarios

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            you must have meant to reply to

            All of them unless they want to die, dehydrate, or assume the fight is going to conveniently be 50 yards outside their bedroom window.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Less than enough.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >The point of a gun is to give violent power to the weak and upset the strength monopoly.
      Wow guns are fucking gay, we must return to melee

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Sharp and blunt weapons are just cope for pugilets. A real man kills his enemies with the guns God gave him

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          guns are good but im still learning boxxing and some japanese martial arts.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >armlets

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            You have a gun. Why are you bringing it within reach of someone.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous
          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            What?

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Depends how close range and how fast it is. It can matter a lot running between cover, keeping your gun leveled for an extended period of time, carrying your gun or other gear, etc. If you're shooting someone directly in front of you, it probably doesn't matter at all, although muscle is marginally denser than fat, so it might help somewhat if you get shot.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      i mean most people wont shoot in vital organs so does the emosthatic effect comes quicker assuming you arent on meth but are muscular?

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    a lot. You need to run and roll during a gun fight

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    in the kind of gun fights that civilians get into its almost negligible
    >often over in less than 30 sec
    >not running to or firing from cover

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    More than you think. Getting shot and being a fat fuck will greatly reduce your chance of survival.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Getting shot and being a fat fuck will greatly increase your chance of survival.
      FTFY, being fat just means retards using overpriced "defense" ammo will just underpenetrate. Unless you're facing a real man that carries FMJs or AP

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Anon fat people can barely keep alive without being shot. How do you expect someone to survive a gun wound if their body can't run for a mile?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Simple, any damage done to their body won't affect their vital organs. All the damage to their vitals is from bad dietary habits. It'd be like shooting at a beached whale's heart, any damage you could inflict would never wound anything important and wouldn't affect its rate of death

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Not really, it takes feet of fat to even slow down bullets, and then if you survive it makes operating on absolute hell because of the fat.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >leg too thick for torniquet

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Hollow points underpenetrating is a meme. Any decent defensive load will not care about an extra 2" of body fat.

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Depends on the fight.

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Getting in a gun fight means you royally fucked up.

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Better than not being in shape.

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    If you're too fat to draw your weapon, this could be an issue.

  14. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Fat makes you slow and fucks up your hormonal balance which makes you a bitch. You can also train adrenaline control with competitive sports.

  15. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Being in shape confers some basic advantages, but they aren't going to be decisive. Having strong and flexible hands makes it easier to shoot any gun, having heavier muscle mass makes recoil less severe, having good balance and coordination can actually be quite beneficial, but in the end if the other person is better at shooting a gun than you are it isn't going to matter much if you can lift more than them.
    The benefits of PT will become more apparent the longer the gunfight has to go on though, and if the fight is more of a battle than an isolated fight the physical endurance, toughness, and capabilities of the troops can start to play a bigger role than their basic infantry weapons.
    The longer and bigger the fight the less important individual weapons become, the more important physical hardiness, coordination, and logistics become.

  16. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Here's the hot take, OP: being fit has heavy diminishing returns in a short timed firefight. If you have basic physical condition and are paired against a top physical shape soldier, all other things equal, its only a sliver of an advantage for him. Now if you are slightly out of shape and the same soldier has average grunt shape, you are starting to get a disadvantage when it comes to mobility and cover.

    If you are out of shape, you will become a liability in a firefight. Not only you will not be able to manuever through cover, but if you are shot, burnt fat can infect easier than muscle. Third-world police officers die when they are obese because lack of hospital conditions make infections easier to happen.

    So it is incredibly important to have a basic level of fitness, yes. It becomes less and less as you develop a certain level of fitness that takes much more time and commitment to be slightly more fit when such resources could be allocated in tactics study, terrain recon, shooting skills, gear conditioning, survival strategies, group training, comms and logistics planning....

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This. Shooting isn't everything to fighting, and fitness isn't everything to warfare. Your setting in itself will heavily affect your odds too; if you are already in a strong defensive position (i.e. home turf) when fighting starts, that is a major advantage as well.

  17. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    if you get shot you have a better chance of living if your in shape
    >unless its a .45 acp

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >ammo you don't want to have in your carry gun

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      TWO WORLD WARS!

  18. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Like a high noon gunfight? Muscle memory. Like a real life gunfight? Cardio is king.
    >yfw

  19. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Depends on your definition of a gun fight

  20. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You are the platform, the carrier for the gun.

    You need to be able to run around a block and climb a fence without becoming a wheezing mess and have steady hands to shoot.

  21. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Somewhat. You need to not stay still. That get's harder and harder. People like to be safe. But safety involves being quick and clever. Naturally being strong enough to throw a man over your head is a plus.

  22. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It lets you get to a better position more easily, which is useful.

  23. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Not as much as muscle memory and not losing your head does.
    >inb4 t. landwhale
    Your average shooting means you gotta draw your gun, aim and shoot until the threat is no more. You don't need to run around, you don't need to jump behind cover or something.
    That's why you need to stay calm, keep a steady aim and not jerk the trigger - things even a fatty can train.
    It's obviously a nice perk if your heart ain't covered in so much fat that you get a heart attack as soon as you fired a few rounds,

  24. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Being a fatass impacts every physical thing you do negatively. A gunfight is a notoriously physical thing. Connect le dots

    >Inb4 haha just stand and shoot the guy how hard is a gunfight
    See for yourself how that works out fatso

  25. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    That depends on whether the 'gun-fight' lasts 1 minute or 1 year. The longer you are in danger, the more your fitness gets challenged.

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