How long until the rest of the world discovers the plain, objective superiority of drillbits?

How long until the rest of the world discovers the plain, objective superiority of drillbits?

  1. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's great, as long as you aren't shooting far.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >It's great, as long as you aren't shooting far.
      Do XD rounds have accuracy issues?

  2. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Can I get a quick rundown?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Can I get a quick rundown?
      Basically get JHP-like cavitation with better penetration and not having to worry about expansion. Supposedly, there might be some places where JHPs are considered illegal for civilan defense so these would be tip-toeing around that.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Supposedly, there might be some places where JHPs are considered illegal for civilan defense
        Like where. I'm in Maryland and I never heard that.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          JHP are illegal for anything other than range shooting in NJ, in fact, they might now be fully illegal

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Aren't they safer for bystanders than full metal jacket ammo? Do they want more people to get perforated?

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >self defense situation
              >civilian shoots nog
              >over penetration
              >hits rando
              >use incident to promote antigun sentiment and gain votes with outrage
              what do you think

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Cuck mindset, they can manufacture as much antigun sentiment as they want. By all means avoid overpenetrating and hitting innocents, but don't let fear of this stop you from carrying superior ammo that can defeat soft armor.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >Do they want more people to get perforated?
              This NJ, the answer to your question is yes.

              https://i.imgur.com/KL3fmWF.jpg

              >self defense situation
              >civilian shoots nog
              >over penetration
              >hits rando
              >use incident to promote antigun sentiment and gain votes with outrage
              what do you think

              pretty much nails it.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >not having to worry about expansion
        makes it ideal for 380ACP and 32ACP

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah, I carry them in my LCP. People like to shit on .380, but if it's good enough for Gavrilo Princip to ventilate an Emperor, it's good enough with modern powder and meme bullets.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            What do you use?

            t. LCP owner

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Not him, but underwood extreme defender.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                thanks!

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I use precision one XTPs with my LCP.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Basically get JHP-like cavitation
        Except temporary cavity from handgun ammunition doesn't actually leave any lasting damage in real meat. These meme bullets were first tried decades ago, and they were as much of a meme then as they are now. The tears you see in ballistics gel don't happen on real meat.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You're so full of it. They aren't better than hollowpoints for flesh damage. Just better than FMJ.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >They aren't better than hollowpoints for flesh damage
          Yea that's the thing despite expansion not being in it's realm, it completely does the same shit as a hollow point but better.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I looked into some videos of XD rounds to check them out. TFB, Paul Harrell and other videos that reviewed it showed that it's inferior to hollowpoints at causing wounds in flesh and the rounds love to overpenetrate. The main reason to get XD rounds is if you can't get hollowpoints, if you want to kill as many people in a crowd as possible, or if you want a quasi soft armor defeating pistol round. Even if you're doing something like bear defence, hardball FMJ has greater penetration.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Why can you people not learn the difference between the Xtreme Defense and the Xtreme Penetrator?

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              There's 2 typed.
              The extreme pentetrators over penetrate, the extreme defenders usually don't even reach 13" I bare gel.
              They fucking suck.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Unless you're trying to down a charging bull elephant why would you want it to penetrate farther than 13"?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >13" ballistic gel =/= 13" in a human target
                Fucking retard.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You're a very angry person.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                And you’re a very retarded person

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >Blahblahblah temporary stretch cavity
              moron, we talking permanent stretch cavity. CRIPPLED FOR LIFE. MAIMED. RETARDED. VEGGIETABLES!

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The xtreme defender makes a garbage permanent cavity though, essentially FMJ performance.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I don't see how that is possible

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Because at least FMJs have more mass.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Because muscle is elastic and muh hydraulic cutting doesn't work in real meat.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I've seen a lot of people talking about shooting pigs with those things and how devastating the wounds are.
                >one shot and they drop
                >chest cavity liquefied
                So are they just completely full of shit shills who bought them and are trying to justify it? Or worse are they shills who are selling them?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                cavity liquefied
                You're a fucking idiot if you believe this. Service pistol calibers are no where near powerful enough to do that.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                because muscle isn't ballistic gelatin. the only thing calibrated gelatin tells you is relative penetration and expansion. penetration depth in gelatin is not the same as penetration depth in living flesh, and neither the permanent nor temporary cavity in gelatin have ever been found to have any relationship to actual flesh. it's just for comparing penetration and (and by extension the expansion) between different rounds. anyone using gelatin results for any thing else is either ignorant or lying.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >They aren't better than hollowpoints for flesh damage

          Nobody said that they were, retard.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Literally the opposite of reality.
        They almost always underpenetrate, and the permanent cavity is roughly the same as FMJ.
        Absolute dogshit at premium prices.

  3. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Would these make sense in a rifle round?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Probably not; at high-mach speeds, they'd be really draggy.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      For a higher caliber, shorter carbine expected to be used at distances where drag and drop aren't paramount? Sure. I'd love to see what kind of horrific damage a 7.62x39 drillbit would do

  4. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    perhaps sometime after memeshit like pic related develops some plain, objective, superiority to...anything.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I have hardly ever posted on this board before today. Is there a lot of people like you here?

  5. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >65gr .357 Sig
    >2100 fps
    >drops hogs instantly side chest shot

  6. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Phillips
    Why doesn't the entire world just use Torx? It's infinitely better in nearly every use case, unless you're one of those poor weirdos who doesn't own a good Torx driver set.

  7. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >ice pick wound channel
    >and underpenetrates

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      There's 2 typed.
      The extreme pentetrators over penetrate, the extreme defenders usually don't even reach 13" I bare gel.
      They fucking suck.

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  8. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    How has no one here reloaded a round with an actual drilling drill bit

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      because it's banned for it's highly effective hydraulic cutting effect.

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