How isn't the front of the turret a large and easy to hit shot trap on this thing?

How isn't the front of the turret a large and easy to hit shot trap on this thing?

  1. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Shot traps aren't real

  2. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It is, but shot traps aren't as devastating as they once were due to the way modern armor-piercing rounds interact with modern armor.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      first, those angled wedges are hollow so anything hitting it will only deflect slightly rather than ricocheting
      secondly, as stated , long rod penetrators dont really deflect on steep angles but rather shatter from the stress placed on the relatively narrow round

      The turret ring on the Abrams is really exposed tho, especially under the gun/above driver's hatch. But I guess that it's hard to hit shooting from 1-2km away.

      hitting weakpoints isnt really a thing except in <100m engagements
      and tanks are meant to stay in cover and fire from hull down position where the weaker armor is not visible anyways

      See
      Also those checks are hollow and just designed to provide excess standoff for shaped charges.

      they are hollow but they arent for stand-off
      its meant to decap APFSDS so it hits the main armor with a bit more surface area and possibly at a deflected by a slight angle to force its way through more armor

  3. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Shot traps really don't matter since the advent of APFSDS rounds. They go too fast to be deflected in any meaningful way.
    That's why the turret front of the Abrams and the OG Leo-2 is so blocky.
    You just need angles anymore to increase LOS thickness to maximize your armor thickness.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The turret ring on the Abrams is really exposed tho, especially under the gun/above driver's hatch. But I guess that it's hard to hit shooting from 1-2km away.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      See
      Also those checks are hollow and just designed to provide excess standoff for shaped charges.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Also those checks are hollow and just designed to provide excess standoff for shaped charges.
        No they are not you idiot. They are filled with angled plates of additional armor. They are *NOT* just spaced but otherwise empty armor cheeks

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          They are hollow

  4. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >shot traps in 2022
    go back to reading Sun Tsu

  5. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    shot traps aren't a thing anymore. they're not shooting cannonballs. long rod penetrators will penetrate at sharp angles and HEAT will lose effectiveness if it happens to glace off.

  6. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    War Thunder is just a video game OP. What happens in it doesn't happen in real life.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Shot traps are real but only apply to AP, not sabots.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Ain't gonna be ricochets from modern plywood sheets armor

        >pajeet simulations

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Old AP ain't gonna ricochet from modern sheets armor too.
        It is known.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        that channel is absolute fucking garbage

  7. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Ain't gonna be ricochets from modern plywood sheets armor

  8. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's hollow
    QTTDTOT next time

  9. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    they're hollow, but also contain additional plates.

  10. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >All these crazy anons acting like shot traps aren't real "anymore" when physics hasn't changed.

    Weird mandela affect shit going on here. Of course OP posted a shot trap. It's the underside of the turret and it would guide an incoming round or RPG into the turret ring.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      physics hasn't changed, but projectiles have.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      As soon as an APFSDS projectile is "guided" by an angled surface, it loses all of its effectiveness against armor. Imagine a keyholeing arrow.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >It's the underside of the turret and it would guide an incoming round or RPG into the turret ring.
      shot traps only occur with projectiles resembling a sphere striking a thick, rigid plate
      ie. a stubby WW2 projectile hitting a plate of steel, which has an inelastic collision
      but modern armor is not monolithic, its composed of many plates of rubber and steel with air in the middle, so theres a lot of "give" from each plate
      an oncoming round will lodge itself somewhere inside the armor, after having been ground down to half its size, rather than deflect

      to give you an idea, try stopping a rubber ball with a plank of wood, obviously it will bounce off
      but stop a rubber ball with a multiple sheets of paper with space in between, and it gets lodged somewhere in the stack

      >shaped charges
      cannot be shot trapped
      at hyper-velocity any change imparted on it is miniscule

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