How does one start working as a Maritime security operative? Is it possible to get into this field without prior military experience?
How does one start working as a Maritime security operative?
How does one start working as a Maritime security operative? Is it possible to get into this field without prior military experience?
>how do I get into a field without any relevant experience or connections
You should check your local classifieds for job postings, or visit a nearby job tree where jobs fall out of the sky
you could be police, then do cruise ship security, then edge in that way maybe
but really the fact is governments are great paid welfare/education facilities that teach things you don't learn anywhere else, if you don't take advantage of it that's on you
>Is it possible to get into this field without prior military experience?
If you're going to pay some guy to sit on a boat and guard your shit, would you want someone without prior military experience? What if he was competing for a position against applicants who did have prior military experience?
shit take, most people in the military that apply for this job have a IQ of 80, any police officer with half a brain (like not joining the military) has a decent chance.
So what guarantees you're not that retard only worse without the military experience. Why would they want a larper who has more YouTube viewing time than range time?
There are some european private schools that teach courses of basic infantry, security, CQB, etc to normal citizens. Quality stuff. Most of these are located in Poland. These private schools have lots of contacts with firms that require private security around the globe.
It's possible, if you're willing to spend a few grand.
Is it feasible to find a job with only those courses as qualification? Does being fluent in more than one language a differential or is it just english that you need? Ive seen some stuff about ukrainian companies on this field, not sure how its going on rn with the war tho
You'd need a LOT of training to even be considered.
They're not going to see you taking a weekend course as a qualification.
An ounce of experience is worth a pound of training
It would be better to join the Coast Guard or National Guard.
Im not american tho, so thats not really an option
>coast guard
Enjoy your 3+ year waitlist
Yeah I wanted to be an MSRT but I shit you not the waiting list was over a year. Now I'm in the air force and I should've just waited
I didn't know that the Village People had updated their look. How interesting.
Last I heard, the Maritime Enforcement billet wait was >1yr.
Botswain's Mate and Gunner's mate are shorter wait times, and you can still be a boarding team member.
I also heard that if you volunteer for Bahrain you basically go straight into training.
I've been thinking about joining the CG since it pays the same as my shit retail job and looks a lot better on a resume.
Correction: <1yr
Bosuns do more watch and guarding than anybody else lol, "good news bro, ur taking my watch tonight!"
T..thanks.
never pay for any training for a PSC career. Ever.
The field is oversaturated with SOCOM guys, let alone grunts, and any required training would be provided by the contract.
Interesting point you've got there. At first I had that feeling that it might be just a course with a vague promise with the sole purpose of money grabing
these "schools" have no accreditation so to speak. The only people who would take such things are weird contracts that pay nothing and hire third worlders that are supervised by people with actual experience. You dont want to work for these companies because they routinely have issues paying you or constantly lose contracts due to compliance issues.
If we're talking about actual skills then yeah. In Private Security in general, I also would agree. But for maritime security specifically, there's some demand for personnel and at least the STCW certification is mandatory. So, overall, if you "don't pay for these schools" then you don't get a job. Even if you're a former navy seal operator (lmao) you need those certifications.
theyve boiled down STCW classes into a 2 week program in most places. prices vary, and youll also need to get your MMC which takes the coast guard for fucking ever to complete
Correct me if im wrong, wouldnt those specops with a high level of specialization and training be in jobs more complex? LIke the regular PMC stuff or some security of VIPs and etc. Because for what ive seen and other anons have said in this thread, the MSO job is not really complex and specialized.
Probably, yeah, I'm just saying that even they would need to be certified.
Usually teams are 4 to 8 people and there's a team leader who is almost exclusively ex military, usually some kind of special forces. Those can make good money (about 3k€ per month, fixed rate regardless of voyages) but they also have various organizational responsibilities even when not aboard.
>Is it possible to get into this field without prior military experience?
Yes but you'll need a ton of Armed Security experience
i hate boats
So do people on ships.
>without prior military experience?
Probably not. You're going to need connections to get a job if you have no real experience.
>Is it possible to get into this field without prior military experience?
lol
moron I know former SF making bank guarding tankers in the Persian Gulf, that's the level of competition you're up against
It's not necessary but it's extremely valued. That said I don't know anyone working without actual military experience.
Pay is about 200€ a day so I doubt the "making bank" part. You also rarely get to work every day of the month.
t. actual knower.
Considering that I live in a shithole with a shit currency this is actually a small fortune throughout an year. When you say they are not working everyday of the month, is it at least some regular income that you can count on, like expecting x amount of travels in a year? Could it be that the reason there a not people without military experience in this field the fact that they are simply not attracted or dont even know about it? Is there any other valuable info that you could share anon?
Yeah, okay, even by my standards 200€/day is not a small amount of money. It's just not crazy amounts of money.
>When you say they are not working everyday of the month
Ships don't have security personnel onboard at all times, only when sailing through dangerous waters. Depending on the company contracts it can be reliable, yes, but the living conditions aboard and the nature of it (you can't have a family/friends/girlfriends and do this for an extended amount of time). This is also the reason why not many people do this.
oops, forgot a word. Sucks. The living conditions aboard and the nature of it sucks.
This is exactly why im betting that this would be the "perfect" job for me, cuz I dont have none of the above. My routine without anyone, stuck in a house alone will not be that different from being aboard a ship doing guard shifts. With the plus of a good amount of money, no expenses during said time and being able to shoot some pirate boat now and then.
Considering the cons of it, would you say that this is a field with a constant rotation of personnel? Making it easier to get into if people are constantly dropping this job.
Yeah people don't do this for too long from what I've seen. Having communal showers with dirty sailors from Bangladesh or the Philippines, pretty bad food, shit living quarters, being away for 3 to 6 months at a time takes a toll on people.
And while it may seem comparable to serving on a navy ship, it really isn't because other than the money you're not getting a lot of what navies provide.
If you're European, try some of the Greek maritime security companies.
>European
Kek. Im brazilian, but Id be able to finance the course and certifications if it had a plausible chance of landing a job. I just dont want to waste the money and end up without the job and with some useless certification and skills that wouldnt be transferable to anything else around here.
Usually the company organizes training/certifications for first timers, at least here (Greece). Not for free, it gets removed from your salary, but it's much easier when they organize everything.
Would you say that this job is like the movie jarhead, where the hardest part is enduring a boring routine with a shitty condition of life and not really the action of it?
Yeah, the majority don't even see action, like ever.
Didnt expect to hear that, but it actually makes a lot of sense. So I guess its not a job so risky afterall.
It's just a shit job. But it's not very risky.
I know a guy who did it and that was his experience, he ended up coming back home and re joined the army again and working up through the ranks. A lot of shitty standing guard, on a shitty ship, looking for some pirates that 99.9% of the time aren't there. But the pirates are around. I suppose he needed a break from the green machine and it was good for that
bank enough for people not living in West Europe
be gay
>with flying colors
cringe
we get it, you're a fag, just keep it to yourself
>Is it possible to get into this field without prior military experience?
no, anyone willing to pay someone with no relevant mil/leo experience to be armed security will be hiring 3rd worlders at commensurate wages
>3rd worlders
>Brazilian
It seems to be a fit then
Unless you are a SEAL or Force Recon with VBSS experience you will be making around 55k. You still need to be military.
Why not just join the navy?